Waiting 4 Wrath www.waiting4wrath.com Grab a brew and laugh along with Aaron, Jenn, Shea and Steve each week as they talk current events & religious nonsense. It’s the beer guzzling secular podcast you didn’t know you were waiting for! Sun, 15 Sep 2019 06:30:24 +0000 en hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.2.3 Grab a brew and laugh along with Aaron, Jenn, Shea and Steve each week as they talk current events & religious nonsense. It's the beer guzzling secular podcast you didn't know you were waiting for! Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve yes episodic Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve podcast@waiting4wrath.com podcast@waiting4wrath.com (Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve) W4W - Copyright 2014. All rights reserved. It's the beer guzzling secular podcast you didn't know you were waiting for! podcast@waiting4wrath.com Grab a brew and laugh along with Aaron, Jenn, Shea and Steve each week as they talk current events & religious nonsense. It's the beer guzzling secular podcast you didn't know you were waiting for! Yes TV-14 Laramie, Wy Weekly W4W on Patreon! Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 253 - The One Where We Flim Flam A Yee-Olde Femme Fatale! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-253/ Fri, 13 Sep 2019 13:00:46 +0000 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/?p=47878 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-253/#disqus_thread https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-253/feed/ 0 In This Week’s Show, episode 253, we summon minions of the occult with our esoteric knowledge of yee-olde brew pubbes. In This Week’s Show, episode 253, we summon minions of the occult with our esoteric knowledge of yee-olde brew pubbes.

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while The Infinite Intelligence hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying its patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that Alexander the Great and Winnie the Pooh have more in common than you think. Their middle names 

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that adherents to spiritualism worship a single deity that they compare to the Christian god but it’s really nothing like that. Anyway, they refer to it as the Infinite Intelligence and never gave Douglas Adams the slightest bit of credit.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Necessary Evil from Manhattan Project Beer Company
Donated By: Aaron 

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  • Shea: 6
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Eternal Confidence

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“Ye” was the plural second person pronoun for the subjective case. It was merged with “you” when English merged the subjective and objective cases.

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The Fox Sisters 

 

Unfortunately, this isn’t about “foxy” sisters, or Megan Fox’s elusive, might-not-even-exist (don’t know, don’t care enough to Google) sister. The Fox sisters are one of the first people you’re likely to hear about if you look into Spiritualism, mediums, or psychics. However, until most of their contemporaries the Fox sisters didn’t shag people at seances. So, without any weird sex stuff to joke about, I’m well outside my usual wheelhouse.

And yes, female mysticism at the time was inexorably tied to the kind of freaky sex only available from the possessed. Because that’s how you know she’s a mystic! Contemporary spiritualists like Eva Carriere and Eusapia Palladino were famous for shagging clients and inspectors to maintain their business. Eusapia in particular was known for preemptively dispelling any notions that she might be a cheat by insisting each client inspect the seance with the old “nothing up my sleeves, nothing under the table, nothing in my cervix” routine.

Luckily our story begins in the early 19th century, so, much to Dustin’s chagrin, there will be plenty of yee-olde jokes. Because now it’s not just about anachronistic humor, now it’s a pod-in-joke too!

The sisters grew up in Hydesville, New York in 1848. Their farmhouse was allegedly haunted or some such. There were three sisters, Margaret, Kate, and Leah, who was the oldest. This matters because the younger two where the ones with special powers… and apples.

Hydesville was just outside modern Newark. At the time, Kate, 10, and Maggie, 14, were bored as fuck and very nearly spinsters having reached double digit ages without being married off, as was the yee-olde custom. It wasn’t until the end of March 1848 that the family finally accepted the haunted nature of their house, hearing sounds like furniture moving or knocking from empty rooms. On March 31st Kate challenged the invisible noisemaker to repeat her finger snaps, which it did, and then to count their ages, which it did. Shocked, the family, their neighbors, and the towns people became enamoured with communicating with the “entity” who would eventually be known as Mr. Splitfoot – surely the “cuddles” of the era.

Maggie Fox, in her later years noted:

“They [the neighbors] were convinced that some one had been murdered in the house. They asked the spirits through us about it and we would rap one for the spirit answer ‘yes,’ not three as we did afterwards. The murder they concluded must have been committed in the house. They went over the whole surrounding country trying to get the names of people who had formerly lived in the house. Finally they found a man by the name of Bell, and they said that this poor innocent man had committed a murder in the house and that the noises had come from the spirit of the murdered person. Poor Bell was shunned and looked upon by the whole community as a murderer.”

So, fuck him I guess.

And so they took the show on the road. Using the Pike-esque communication method of one knock for yes, and two for no, they would answer people’s questions about the great beyond. The eldest sister, smelling profit, took the younger two to Rochester to visit a radical Quaker group who, once convinced of their ethereal powers, would form the base of Spiritualism.

Soon the sisters gave the first public demonstration of spiritualism in 1849 at Corinthian Hall. It took very little time for word and fame to spread. By 1850 they were well known mediums holding seances for hundreds of people. They had rabid followers, jealous imitators, and religiously connected protectors. Political affiliations also became common, though were often strained, as both young women frequently drank wine!

Wealthy and married to rich men the women would spend many years as on-again, off-again, mediums. Their breaks delineated by marriage or cross-atlantic trips and their returns to spiritualism conveniently coincided with relocations and/or dead husbands.

Eventually they ran out of credulous inspectors and fell to the scrutiny of well known engineers and magicians at the time. Harry Houdini was especially frustrated with their bullshit as they shamelessly defrauded the poor and vulnerable.

It was discovered that the table the sisters held their seances at had a hollow top, under which was a wooden block that acted as a fulcrum for a metal rod. The rod had a spring at one end and a nearly invisible handle that protruded out near where the sisters sat. With it, they could arm the rod like a mouse trap, allowing it to be snapped up into the table by handle or by release with a bit of thread. Apparetly, yee-olde people were real dumb.

In 1888, Margaretta told her story of the origins of the mysterious “rappings” at their family home:

“When we went to bed at night we used to tie an apple to a string and move the string up and down, causing the apple to bump on the floor, or we would drop the apple on the floor, making a strange noise every time it would rebound. Mother listened to this for a time. She would not understand it and did not suspect us as being capable of a trick because we were so young.”

By the end of their lives they’d been exposed as frauds, run out of home and money, and died in alcoholic obscurity. Now they exist as footnotes in the history of charlatanism and spiritualism, their enterprise serving as an example of the cruel fraud mediums engage in by preying on the credulous and bereaved… or as the Catholic Herald says in it’s Heretic of the Week segment:

activities are condemned by the Church as a resurrection of necromancy; through the ages [the Church] has consistently taught that in conjuring the dead you are far more likely to make contact with demons disguising themselves as the dearly departed – and they mean none of us any good.

So yeah, demons… or, you know, an apple.

Show Story- The Flim Flam Femme Fatales 

This week I have decided to share with you all the story of someone that, perhaps surprisingly, I find very fascinating and in many ways inspiring. It would require too much unpacking to get into the why’s now, but I’m sure you may see them unfold as we go along. 

So again, welcome to a story of weird…history…eee…eee

The tradition of charlatans, chicanery and snake oiling (ewwww….) is often thought of as a man’s game. (I mean, the term wasn’t Flim Flam Female.) But, as unlike so many professions (except for the original, seems like we get to keep the banner for that one), the ladies could totally get in on this game throughout the ages. Sometimes whether they wanted to or not, as I think some of the Oracles at Delphi weren’t there of their own free will for the free tripping. 

Also, depending on the time period, these kinds of pursuits could dramatically backfire. As in, during several points throughout history it was found that ‘wise women’, healers, seers and anything other than a spirit-broken housewife were highly flammable and/or hangable.

So with that in mind, and the fact that I can never get enough of Aaron’s Russian accent, I would like to introduce the Ukranian-born Helena Petrova Blavatsky. Or perhaps you might recognize her by the more common nomenclature, Madame Blavatsky. 

The Cambridge-based Society for Psychical Research had this 1885 respect-tinged quote about the eerily Jake Gyllenhall-resembling Madame B: “For our part, we regard her as neither the mouthpiece of hidden seers, nor as a mere vulgar adventuress; we think that she has achieved a title to permanent remembrance as one of the most accomplished, ingenious, and interesting imposters in history.”

(Now, before I continue, a quick bit of housekeeping bc of my rant last week and my constant fear of plagiarism: I’d been aware of and interested in Mdm. B for quite some time, but didn’t know exactly how absolutely riveting her story was until I listened to the amazing 3 part podcast series on her by Our Fake History, which started in May 2018. Full disclosure, I haven’t listened since it originally ‘aired(?)’ but I will go ahead and tell you right now that it was more complete and historically-contextual than what I’m going to provide. Please do check it out, but for my sake wait until after I’m done with my take bc that’s just polite and you would never hear the reactions of the boys in Sebastian’s episodes.)

Now, back to our main character Mdm. B: Helena was born in 1831 to an apparently well-to-do aristocratic family (which immediately takes away some of the mythos, as this would have so much better if she had been born in a frozen Siberian alley). The aristocracy in her family apparently came from her mother’s side, and her mother was a published author (much more impressive in the early 1800’s than today).  Unfortunately, when Helena was 11 her mother died at 28 and I can’t understand if I think that’s too old or too young considering the time period. Anyway, her military-minded father decided to send her to live with her maternal grandparents at what was, with no irony, described as a ‘feudal estate’.

From this early age, and apparently encouraged by the old Russian, superstitious servants who were the stand ins for actual parents, Helena began to exhibit her ‘supernatural powers’. (Per newworldencylopedia.com these powers included:

physical and mental psychic feats which included levitation, clairvoyance, out-of-body projection, telepathy, and clairaudience. Another alleged skill of hers was materialization, that is, producing physical objects out of nothing.)

As an only child myself who had access to books (which at the time of Helena meant aristocracy) and often sickly, which gave me plenty of time for more…eclectic reading, I can totally understand why she turned out the way she did, seeing as how she was considered ‘traveled and largely self-educated’.  As a teenager she became interested in Western esotericism and, in my interpretation, realized the world was ripe for the plucking.

Leaping quickly through her early life (it’s difficult to pin down her movements in her formative years, but I’m voting that’s at least partially part of her plan), here are a few (supposedly true) highlights. Three weeks before her 17th birthday she was married to a 40yr old politician. That apparently went so well that after 3 months she stole a horse and fled back over the mountains to her grandparent’s home. (LOVE. IT.) Her grandfather, scandalized, immediately tried to send her back to her soldier-father, but after a taste of mountain-horse-stealing-freedom, Helena was not going to be stopped. (The more I say, the less I feel any of this is real, but bear with me.)  Instead of meeting her father at the appointed port, she dodged the continent completely, supposedly taking up with an English skipper on a ship bound for Constantinople. 

Thus began her years of dubiously reported  traveling. She claims to have spent the next 10 years on a pilgrimage towards enlightenment.  Among the areas she is said to have traveled: Egypt, France, Quebec (on the hunt for Native American magicians), England, South America, Germany, Mexico, India, Greece and most especially, Tibet. Whilst in Tibet she super-spiritualized herself an introduction with the spiritual adepts known as ‘The Masters of Ancient Wisdom’. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_of_the_Ancient_Wisdom (See the show notes for a link to more info on that because there is literally only so much time in life given to a single podcast host.) 

Now a lot comes from her time studying Eastern mysticism, but in the name of time and sanity, I’m going to jump ahead just a bit, for context. Blavatsky became known as the mother of the Western Theosophical movement. In the broadest of terms, Theosophy maintains that the mysteries of the universe can be granted to particularly attuned people, and by attuned this means ‘finger on the pulse of gullible bored rich people’. 

She supposedly demonstrated her powers in a variety of ways, for everyone from wealthy socialites to wary, superstitious peasants. One great anecdote that I heard on Our Fake History’s series involves her spending time finding lost jewelry and other valuables for her aristocratic friends. I won’t go into detail because he tells the story so well, but my money is on she had light fingers and dug up ‘so and so’s’ brooch from the backyard because she is the one who buried it there.

Madame B also seemed to be able to manifest a most pointless talent: making furniture impossible to move. From AP Sinnett’s book ‘Incidents in the Life of Madame Blavatsky’, “Through the exercise of her own will directing the magnetic currents so that the pressure on the table became such that no physical force could move it.” Now Mr. Sinnett was a full on fangirl for Helena, so his writings should be taken with a small boulder of salt, but she did visit him extensively and he spent a lot of time with her, so there is at least first hand accounting. Plus, his books are old enough they are all free online! (The one I mentioned also contains the story/legend of a character named Count Rottenstern von Rott Hahn who could summon a giant raven, so that’s amazing and a cartoon supervillain.)

If you’re a patron, you heard from Aaron about a particular spiritual craze which was sweeping countries on both sides of the Atlantic known as ‘rapping’. The old, Victorian white people kind, where ghosts thumped answers in a basic alphabet. The most famous and supposed creators of the movement were the Fox sisters, who in actuality turned out to have creaky toe joints. But of course, Mdm. B got in on this action as well, confounding police detectives and laypersons alike (criminal investigators were less…sophisticated, at this time), and causing quite a stir in Chittenden, VT, said to be the era’s “epidemic of raps.” In fact a news article at the time noted, “On her arrival, the spirits became more spectacular than ever before.” I bet the Fox gals were supes jealous.

Anyway, after returning from her supposed enlightening among the Tibetans and spiritual masters, she moved to the back to Russia in 1858, and by 1870 immigrated to the US. She lived in various parts of New England, but a huge moment in her life took place in Pennsylvania. It was here her health took a turn as she developed a serious infection in her leg. Now in West Philadelphia, sick and dazed, the fever took up most of her days. Fucked up in the head but remembering her rule, she channeled Atlanteans before it was cool. Per the University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology: “During a period of delirium she underwent a spiritual transformation, and was inspired to found the Theosophical Society.

**To deeply dive into the Theosophical society would require its own episode, but it’s a gathering of folks dabbling in the kind of woo you would expect and honestly not that interesting. **

Anyway, back to her new fever dream combined with what she learned in Tibet from the ‘Masters of Ancient Wisdom’, eventually in 1888 she published her and early theosophy’s magnum opus: the 6 volume The Secret Doctrine. Goddess bless the Penn Museum’s page because it breaks down the lesson perfectly:

“She wrote about seven root races of humanity. The first consisted of invisible astral jellyfish. The second, the Hyperborean,lived near the North Pole and were also bodiless. Next came a race of egg-laying lemurs, who had eyes in the back of their heads. They lived on the continent of Lemuria, located in the Pacific Ocean. The Lemurians were naughty. They discovered sex, which was their downfall. Their continent was destroyed, leaving only remnants that we know as Easter Island and Australia. The people of Atlantis were the fourth of Madame Helena’s races, and the fifth were ourselves. The remaining two were, and still are, to come. The guardians for an infant humanity, their home lies in outer space, specifically Venus.”

It’s on this fabulously nutty note that I’m bringing this week’s portion of this story to a close. Next week I’m going to pick up from here and discuss some of her more…controversial beliefs and the lasting historical repercussions of Madame B’s life, writings and, of course, Nazis.

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Breck Lager – Breckenridge Brewery
From – RW

Faith in Humanity Restored

https://www.popsugar.com/family/bullied-boy-creates-university-of-tennessee-t-shirt-design-46592056

This week’s faith in humanity restored story isn’t about some big medical breakthrough or space discovery, but rather about how a group stepped up to help a bullied boy feel better about himself. 

A fourth grader in Altamonte Elementary School in Florida was really excited to show off the colors of his favorite team, The University of Tennessee, on College Colors Day. Unfortunately, he didn’t have a UT tee shirt so his teacher, Laura Snyder, suggested that he just wear an orange tee shirt that he already had. The boy though, being a huge fan, decided to create his own logo by drawing and decorating UT on a piece of paper and wearing it pinned to the orange tee shirt.

Well, as one could easily predict, he was bullied by a bunch of girls at a nearby lunch table, girls who weren’t even participating in the college colors day. Naturally, this hurt the boy’s feelings and he retreated to Snyder’s class room crying.

Snyder posted about the incident on social media and surprisingly, it went viral. 

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10114194128988573&id=5239432

She received an outpouring of support and requested that people assist her in finding an “extra special” UT tee shirt for the boy. The university sent a big box of UT swag his way, from which he chose a jersey and a hat, then helped pass out the rest to the other kids.

That alone is a great story of how social media can occasionally not be horrible, but it doesn’t end there. The University of Tennessee also went to the next level. They created an official tee shirt with the boy’s hand drawn design that he’d worn to school that day to sell, and are donating a portion of the proceeds to donate to STOMP Out Bullying (@STOMPOutBullyng)

https://twitter.com/UTVolShop?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1170065640146624513&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.popsugar.com%2Ffamily%2Fbullied-boy-creates-university-of-tennessee-t-shirt-design-46592056

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In This Week’s Show, episode 253, we summon minions of the occult with our esoteric knowledge of yee-olde brew pubbes.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while The Infinite Intelligence hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying its patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that Alexander the Great and Winnie the Pooh have more in common than you think. Their middle names 

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that adherents to spiritualism worship a single deity that they compare to the Christian god but it’s really nothing like that. Anyway, they refer to it as the Infinite Intelligence and never gave Douglas Adams the slightest bit of credit.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Necessary Evil from Manhattan Project Beer Company
Donated By: Aaron 


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BA Rating: 3.8
Style: Pilsner
ABV: 5.3% 



Aaron: 4
Jenn: 5
Shea: 6
Steve: 4


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Eternal Confidence

The series centers around 6 subjects answering specific questions about their faith. Some of the subjects are active and believing Christians and some of the subjects have deconverted from Christianity. 


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You can find the first episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-5kD193s90&t=266s 


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Friend of the show Dustin of Atheist Nomads:

"Ye" was the plural second person pronoun for the subjective case. It was merged with "you" when English merged the subjective and objective cases.

The word "the" used to be spelled with the letter thorn which was pronounced as a th, but over time it began to resemble the letter "y". Most thorn was replaced with "th", but "ye" was kept much longer as an abbreviation of the word "the", but everyone knew to pronounce it as "the".

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The Fox Sisters 


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_sisters
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Spiritualism
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-fox-sisters-rochester-new-york
https://catholicherald.co.uk/magazine/heretics-of-the-week-the-fox-sisters/


 

Unfortunately, this isn't about "foxy" sisters, or Megan Fox's elusive, might-not-even-exist (don't know, don't care enough to Google) sister. The Fox sisters are one of the first people you're likely to hear about if you look into Spiritualism, mediums, or psychics. However, until most of their contemporaries the Fox sisters didn't shag people at seances. So, without any weird sex stuff to joke about, I'm well outside my usual wheelhouse.

And yes, female mysticism at the time was inexorably tied to the kind of freaky sex only available from the possessed. Because that's how you know she's a mystic! Contemporary spiritualists like Eva Carriere and Eusapia Palladino were famous for shagging clients and inspectors to main...]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 252 - The One Where We Discover The Gay Gene On MSG Junkie https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-252/ Fri, 06 Sep 2019 13:00:21 +0000 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/?p=47845 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-252/#disqus_thread https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-252/feed/ 0 In This Week’s Show, episode 252, we eat our fabulous fill of umami-rich pod-shame. In This Week’s Show, episode 252, we eat our fabulous fill of umami-rich pod-shame.

If you enjoyed today’s free, patreon cut of the show, consider subscribing at http://patreon.com/w4w!

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ponos (the Greek God of hard labor and toil) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

MSG is fine.

Actual lesson: Did you know that Heracles is the actual name of the Greek strongman known for the 12 labors. HERCULES is his Roman name.

Jim’s Good Gay News

Former NFL player Ryan Russell has come out as bisexual.  He’s trying to return to the league, and says he wants to do it while being open and honest.  Here’s hoping someone signs him again!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Lazy Horse Blood Orange Ale – from Brendan

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Episode 253

Necessary Evil from Manhattan Project Beer Company
Donated By: Aaron 

Beer Announcement #2 – Episode 254

Breck Lager – Breckenridge Brewery
From – RW

Jenn’s PSA- Don’t plagiarize, assholes

Today I’m going to share something that has really gotten me pissed off in the last few weeks, and it’s something that you, listeners of podcasts, should hear about.

Now I know in the last several months or so I’ve joked about some topics that I have crossed over with Citations Needed (and thanks all who let me know not to worry too much about it). But the truth is, I have been most concerned about any idea of copying them or their info. Full disclosure, I don’t listen to it myself but I take my research as seriously as I can when I’m trying to learn y’all facts about outlaw mummies and mysterious Russian everything.

Even from the beginning, we at W4W have worked very hard to announce our sources in the show, indicate where we are using direct quotes and link those used in the show notes. Well, most of us, probably not Shea. 

Now we’re a niche little show, and we’re definitely not changing the cultural landscape of podcasting or directly affecting the lives of other shows who may cover similar topics. But I’m talking about this today bc that actual thing is currently being unveiled, and has been happening for close to a year. 

If you’ve listened to our show for any length of time, you know that I’m a BIG fan of true crime, unsolved mysteries and the type of topic that gives Aaron nightmares. And I know some of you listeners enjoy that sort of stuff as well, but this covers more than just a narrow topic and just a few individuals or shows.

In case you haven’t heard, the true crime show Crime Junkie and its 2 female hosts have been revealed to be dirty cheaters. And this show had sat at #1 to #5 on the iTunes charts for the past several months. This show has MILLIONS of downloads, makes thousands on patreon, has hundreds of thousands of subscribers, etc. (I myself was one until a few weeks ago, and I’ve talked with a few of our listeners about the show before, so I know at least a few of y’all listen.)

A little bit of info on the actual scandal, but I won’t get too detailed. I WILL link to some articles and write-ups that do a much more thorough job and I FUCKING REFERENCE MY SOURCES:

The story itself gained public attention on August 11th when award winning journalist Cathy Frye made a post on Junkie’s Facebook merchandise page (eye roll) after being unable to get a response from the show in a more private form of communication. In late 2003 Ms. Frye had written an in-depth, excellent 4 part series called ‘Caught in the Web’ for the Arkansas Democrat Gazette on the muder of a young girl named Kacie Woody. Now the reason this caught Frye’s attention is that for one, the case had received very little coverage (it had since been solved, the murderer was dead, etc) and for another, she had had months of extraordinary access to the family of the murdered girl and detectives who had worked the case. Basically she was THE person who covered the case, covered it well and was the go-to person. (If you enjoy reading TC nonfiction, I’ve linked the article in show notes. Very worthwhile reading. https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/previousfeatures/caughtintheweb/)

Anyway, of course a podcast covering a case she was so personally involved with perked her radar and she listened. Only to hear that SWATHS of the show was taken almost verbatim from her story, information that only she had every reported on was discussed and basically more shit like that. There was never a single mention of the article, Frye or anything about resources other than a generic ‘this is a crime that not much has been reported on’.

Well, it pretty much blew up from there. A story on plagiarismtoday.com gives a good account of the timeline and has multiple links to the articles covering the scandal. https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2019/08/28/crime-junkie-from-top-podcast-to-plagiarism-pariah/?fbclid=IwAR0UJSbRBEUthbrrK54M7IOPo2K0B-_Z9FfKq-FuPI5w9tyoxm4KNH34zhQ

If you would prefer not to dive into hundreds of pages of investigation and online drama (but honestly, are you even living?) you can hear from three hosts who have been directly and very negatively affected by this. Esther Ludlow (who hosts Once Upon a Crime) has a more lighthearted side show called ‘Let’s Taco About True Crime’ and she has Steven Pacheco of ‘Trace Evidence’ and Robin Warder of ‘The  Trail Went Cold’ and they detail exactly what was plagiarized and how this has affected them.

https://tacobouttruecrime.libsyn.com/bonus-episode-lets-taco-bout-the-crime-junkie-plagiarism-scandal

Beer Announcement #3 – Episode 255

Texas Tea from Bishop Cider Co.

Show Story

New Study Disputes ‘Gay Gene,’ But Doesn’t Separate Sex From Identity (https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2019/8/29/new-study-disputes-gay-gene-doesnt-separate-sex-identity)

  • The largest-ever study of genes and human sexuality
    • published in peer-reviewed journal Science
    •  Did NOT find one single “gay gene”
    •  Can’t really tell us if it’s a “choice” or why men and women are so different
  • Definitive answer to another question: Does having sex one time with somebody of the same sex mean you’re queer?
    •  The answer is no 
    • First evidence that there are fundamental differences between individuals with different levels of same-sex experience
    •  Suggests that openness to experience and adventurous behavior are key elements to the complexity of human sexuality
  • The science-y bits
    • Carried out by 21 authors at as many different institutions
    • Analyzed nearly half a million men and women aged 40-69 in the UK
    • Detailed sexuality information was not collected
      • the participants were asked the question “Have you ever had sexual intercourse (vaginal, oral or anal) with someone of the same sex?” 
      • About 3 percent answered yes, and were classified as “non-heterosexual”
      • This was the group used for gene hunting
      • This binary does NOT accurately gauge sexual orientation
  • Remarkably strong dependence on the age of the participants
    • 40-year-olds more than 3X as likely to be classified as non-heterosexual as those who are 69
    • “This sort of rapid temporal change is characteristic of a trait mediated by social factors, not genes”
  • More than half of the “non-heterosexuals” actually had sex with the opposite sex “mostly or at least half the time”
    • Translation: they were mostly straight or bisexual, not gay or lesbian (as those terms are commonly understood)
  • Got more interesting when scientists analyzed genetic correlations of “non-heterosexuality” to other behavioral and psychological traits
    • Two were especially notable: risk behavior and openness to experience
    • Does not fit with the “typical” personality profiles of either gay men or lesbians, which have been studied extensively
    • What you’d expect for individuals willing to do something a bit out of the usual for a change, even if it didn’t match their underlying desires or attraction
    • Strong correlation to cannabis use
      • “Yes, I did, but I was soooo high.”
  • The proof of a difference between a one-time same-sex experience and enduring sexual orientation 
    • Came from examining the genetic relationships between non-heterosexuality and percentage of same-sex partners 
      • For participants for whom both measures were available
    • The correlation was zero!
      • Means that whatever genes were found for “non-heterosexuality” have nothing to do with the continuum of behavior from “mostly straight” to “completely queer”
  • Scientists also searched through 600,000 DNA markers in the sample (aka: molecular fishing expedition) 
    • Thousands of candidate genes were found
      • Only 5 were deemed statistically significant
      • Some are located in potentially interesting genes (ex: sex hormones and olfaction)
      • But only accounted for a few percent of total variation and could not predict a person’s orientation with any accuracy
  • This article was written by Dean Hamer (Scientist Emeritus at the National Institutes of Health)
    • In 1993 his lab discovered Xq28, the sex chromosome locus linked to male homosexuality – has been independently confirmed
      • Hamer’s work used genetically-loaded families with two gay beerbrothers, as compared to random individuals
      • Focused on predominantly or exclusively gay men, as compared to a population mostly heterosexual or bisexual
      • Took into account epigenetic influences
    • No correlation was found with Xq28
      • If Xq28 had been picked up in the new scan, it could be interpreted as meaning that they discovered a locus for risk taking, not homosexuality
  • Despite limitations, it’s good that the new study was conducted
    • Strong empirical evidence that knowing the origins of sexual orientation leads to increased acceptance
    • In the 26 years since Hamer’s first genetics study appeared in Science, there have been fewer than half a dozen credible research projects on this topic
  • According to Hamer the entire scientific community have always understood that the genetic architecture of human sexuality is complex
    • No single “gay gene” 
    • A straw man invented by antigay critics
    •  Easy to confuse “no single gay gene” with “no genetic influence” 
    • Will be misinterpreted as “it’s a choice” 
  • New study that may make the whole concept of “gay genes” obsolete
    • Genetic correlation between “non-heterosexuality” and total number of sexual partners
    • Stereotype that GLBTQ people are promiscuous
      • Genetic correlation means that straight people who share our genes — and there are a lot of them — also have more sexual partners
      • That would solve the conundrum of how “gay genes” survive evolution. 
      • It’s because they are really “hyper-heterosexuality genes” — and probably essential for the survival of the human race.

The Flavor Enhancer!

#MSG

Let’s talk about umami. Which literally means “essence of deliciousness” in Japanese.

So first of all, what do you know about MSG?

Probably that it’s used in Chinese food. Maybe that it “makes things taste better.” And you’ve probably heard that it’s not good for you.

But what is MSG?

MSG, or Monosodium glutamate, also known as sodium glutamate, is the sodium salt of glutamic acid, one of the most abundant naturally occurring non-essential amino acids

It’s often used as a “flavor enhancer” in super-savory foods. Notably asian food. Though, as we will get into later, it’s found in pretty much everything you’ve ever eaten. MSG or monosodium glutamate is a seasoning that combines sodium with glutamate, an amino acid that is naturally present in certain foods.

Glutamic acid was first discovered by a German chemist in 1866. Karl Heinrich Tutthausen by treating wheat gluten with sulfuric acid. Hence the name. It should be noted thought that Glutamic acid and gluten are not at all the same thing.

It was a Japanese biochemist Kikunae Ikeda who first identified MSG and managed to isolate it for use in 1908. He was trying to identify and duplicate the ultra-savory flavor of kombu, a seaweed that is often used as the base of Japanese soups.

Kombu-dashi is a stock of konbu, a northern Japanese seaweed and kotsobushi, or dried fermented fish flakes. The combination is used in pretty much all asian soups, particularly ramen

Food rich in MSG were part of the Japanese lifestyle for… basically ever. It is thought to have been brought into Chinese food during Japan’s occupation of Taiwan during the early 20th century. From there would have come to America with Chinese immigrants. Which is where the trouble starts…

Some people have probably heard of Chinese Food Syndrome. Which, for the record, isn’t a syndrome and frankly, isn’t fucking real!

The issue began in 1968 when a Chinese-American doctor named Ho Man Kwok wrote a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine asking if anyone had time or resources to investigate why, after eating at a Chinese food place, he often felt ill with symptoms including headaches. No one really did.

But that was all it took. Despite his supposition that it could be the rice wine used, excess salt, or MSG, the MSG was what stuck. Lately because of chemophobia and racism.

Putting this into context. At the turn of the 20th century science was going to save us all. Then we dropped the bomb on Japan. Then we had thalidomide. A number of other food issues ending in the beginning of the GMO scare.

We also had generations of entrenched racism. The Chinese will cook rats and cat. They’re food will make you sick

Never mind that you just ate too fucking much.

Of course none of that is true. Plenty of people around the world I’d imagine would eat a cat or rat but none would claim it as their cultures food of choice. In fact, as an aside, the “Chinese people eat cats” business came from early San Fran, when having a bout of racism, a woman claimed that she could smell and hear her Asian neighbors cooking and eating cats. She called the police who, upon interviewing the family, found them to be vegetarians. so… whomp whomp.

So what’s the problem?

Well, there isn’t one.

Most Chinese food syndrome suffers either ate too much or have incredibly powerful psychosomatic responses.

In a study by Tarasoff and Kelly (1993), 71 fasting participants were given 5 g of MSG and then a standard breakfast. One reaction (to the placebo, in a self-identified MSG-sensitive individual) occurred.

MSG has been studied thoroughly and no causal link has been found to any ill health.

In fact, more than a few times the opposite has been found. MSG can reduce overall sodium content in a recipe by 30-40% by reducing the need for salt. In fact, the Institute of Medicine has referenced the potential of MSG as a tool to reduce sodium in foods.

For example, if your recipe for stew calls for 3 tablespoons of salt, use 2tbps of salt and 1tbps of MSG. Your food will taste a ton better and you’ll be using about 25% less sodium.

Food Standards Australia New Zealand (FSANZ) MSG technical report concludes, “There is no convincing evidence that MSG is a significant factor in causing systemic reactions resulting in severe illness or mortality. The studies conducted to date on Chinese restaurant syndrome (CRS) have largely failed to demonstrate a causal association with MSG. Symptoms resembling those of CRS may be provoked in a clinical setting in small numbers of individuals by the administration of large doses of MSG without food. However, such effects are neither persistent nor serious and are likely to be attenuated when MSG is consumed with food. In terms of more serious adverse effects such as the triggering of bronchospasm in asthmatic individuals, the evidence does not indicate that MSG is a significant trigger factor.”  “Data from the United Kingdom indicates an average intake of 590 mg/day, with extreme users (97.5th percentile consumers) consuming 2330 mg/day” (Rhodes et al. 1991)

How much MSG would hurt you? Well, if you take it intravenously not much. If you take it like a food product, a lot. The LD50 – that is, how much it would take to kill half of the lab animals in the test – is about 15g per kilo of body weight. Also, that’s a fucking ton. The average 1 to 3 pounds of food you’ll eat a buffet might contain, maybe, 300 milligrams. By comparison, 3g per kilo of body weight of salt will kill you

Remember how I promised to get back to where MSG is from? Well, it’s not just Japan’s seafloor. Here the white crystals that most people worry about having put in their food largely come from Ac’cent In the USA, or AJI-No-Moto and can be found as “accent” seasoning in most supermarkets. Raw MSG is also available.

MSG is also found most notably in tomatoes. So your Italian pasta sauce – yep, MSG. It’s in Soy sauce of course. Most dried mushrooms are rich in MSG. One of the most concentrated naturally occurring sources of MSG, about 0.02%, is parmesan cheese. Green tea has MSG in it. Pretty much all cured meats are rich in MSG. Grape juice, has MSG in it. Peas, potatoes, scallops, corn, and some wheat products all contain MSG.

Food critic Jeffrey Steingarten argued that fear of MSG should be seen as a Western-centric mindset, lacking awareness of its common use in Far Eastern cooking without apparent problems: “If MSG is a problem, why doesn’t everyone in China have a headache?”

Beer Announcement #4 – Episode 256

Breck IPA – Breckenridge Brewery
From RW

Reminder, Next Week’s beer is Necessary Evil from Manhattan Project Beer Company

Happy Ending

Lil Nas X Makes Gay History With CMA Nomination (https://www.advocate.com/music/2019/8/28/lil-nas-x-makes-gay-history-cma-nomination)

The Country Music Awards nominated the track from Lil Nas X featuring Billy Ray Cyrus in the category of Musical Event of the Year

  • Classified as country rap, or country trap
    • Cowboy-booted off the BillboardCountry charts earlier this year
    •  The magazine decided it did not fit the genre
    • Sparked a debate as to what defines country music in modern times
    • Nomination sends an inclusive signal to the rest of the industry
  • Lil Nas X is now the first out gay man to be nominated at the CMAs
    • 20 years old, came out in June during the final weekend of Pride month
    •  A few notable comings-out in country music, but the genre is still notoriously conservative
      • Chely Wright is a prominent example – 2010 
      •  Ty Herndon and Billy Gilman in 2014
      •  Brandi Carlile, Brandy Clark
      •  Shane McAnally (song writer, on NBC’s “Songland”)
      •  Cody Alan (CMT radio/TV host)
      •  Steve Grand
  • Also marked another milestone in July, when “Old Town Road” became the longest-running number 1 song in Billboard’s history

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In This Week’s Show, episode 252, we eat our fabulous fill of umami-rich pod-shame.
If you enjoyed today's free, patreon cut of the show, consider subscribing at http://patreon.com/w4w!

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ponos (the Greek God of hard labor and toil) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

MSG is fine.

Actual lesson: Did you know that Heracles is the actual name of the Greek strongman known for the 12 labors. HERCULES is his Roman name.

Jim’s Good Gay News

Former NFL player Ryan Russell has come out as bisexual.  He’s trying to return to the league, and says he wants to do it while being open and honest.  Here’s hoping someone signs him again!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Lazy Horse Blood Orange Ale - from Brendan


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Untapped Rating:  3.4 out of 5
Style: Pale Ale
ABV: 5%



Aaron: 5
Jenn: 5
Jim: on his own (and his homemade rhubarb wine and strawberry wines are pretty tasty…and pretty potent)


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Episode 253

Necessary Evil from Manhattan Project Beer Company
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Beer Announcement #2 - Episode 254

Breck Lager - Breckenridge Brewery
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BA Rating: 3.52
Style: Lager
ABV: 4.5%


Jenn’s PSA- Don’t plagiarize, assholes

Today I’m going to share something that has really gotten me pissed off in the last few weeks, and it’s something that you, listeners of podcasts, should hear about.

Now I know in the last several months or so I’ve joked about some topics that I have crossed over with Citations Needed (and thanks all who let me know not to worry too much about it). But the truth is, I have been most concerned about any idea of copying them or their info. Full disclosure, I don’t listen to it myself but I take my research as seriously as I can when I’m trying to learn y’all facts about outlaw mummies and mysterious Russian everything.

Even from the beginning, we at W4W have worked very hard to announce our sources in the show, indicate where we are using direct quotes and link those used in the show notes. Well, most of us, probably not Shea. 

Now we’re a niche little show, and we’re definitely not changing the cultural landscape of podcasting or directly affecting the lives of other shows who may cover similar topics. But I’m talking about this today bc that actual thing is currently being unveiled, and has been happening for close to a year. 

If you’ve listened to our show for any length of time, you know that I’m a BIG fan of true crime, unsolved mysteries and the type of topic that gives Aaron nightmares. And I know some of you listeners enjoy that sort of stuff as well, but this covers more than just a narrow topic and just a few individuals or shows.

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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 251 - The One Where We Visit Mattoon's Bimillennial Dance-Off! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-251/ Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:00:07 +0000 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/?p=47815 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-251/#disqus_thread https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-251/feed/ 0 In This Week’s Show, episode 251, we get hysterically involved in French DDR until we sashay away to the world’s best food truck for a beer. In This Week’s Show, episode 251, we get hysterically involved in French DDR until we sashay away to the world’s best food truck for a beer.

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Nataraja (the personification of Shiva who is considered the ‘lord of the dance’) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that when smart kids share random facts adults tell them how smart they are. But when adults share random facts people tell them they are weird and annoying…

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that in his guise as Nataraja, Shiva is both creating and destroying the world, all at once, crushing a demon underneath his feet as he does so.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Breaking Bud by Knee Deep Brewing Company
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The Four Horsepeople of the funny bone.

“Waiting 4 Wrath is a great show with great hosts. Each brings something to the table that I can relate to. Jen brings the level headed reason. Aaron brings the silly. Steve brings the curmudgeon (You kids get off my lawn!) But it is my yeti brethren Shea that brings the lesson. Every week I learn along with him and this week I learned that when you fish from the top of a building you can’t bait your hook there because everyone knows you can’t Fit A Lure On The Roof.”

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Voicemail From Mr. Bible Pants

Message from Sir Hairy Palms the Blind (maybe don’t read it but reply?)

Fun story about fixing lefties.

In grade 2 ( or 3) , so like 1976 or so, I had a public school teacher who refused to allow me to learn how to print because I’m left handed. If I tried she’d hit my hand with a yardstick and make me sit away from my desk to make sure I didn’t sneak practice being a devil spawn with delusions of literacy.

Same teacher also told me that “God didn’t make you a dirty savage (I’m 1/2 native canadian) The Devil did that. But god expects you to overcome it”.

She had me so convinced I was broken and evil my family didn’t find out about the writing prohibition until my father asked the school about moving me into a special ed class and the real story came out about why I was near illiterate compared to my classmates. Not sure if Mrs Grizdale got fired but I never saw her again.

Yeah. Religion is fun. Been an atheist pretty much ever since, so I should thank the evil bitch for that.

Longtime listener Ed sent us a pic of the delicious chocolate Shake Chocolate Porter beer from a few weeks ago. He’s tried his best to like beer, but not even this one worked. :( He did say he still liked us so let’s call it a win!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Gasser_of_Mattoon#References

Our story begins in the sleepy, but not as sleepy as it will be, town of Mattoon, Illinois. Mattoon is a small town of about 18,000 people, nestled in the treeline of Coles County between a prairie and another prairie.

Fun fact about Mattoon, the city website appears to be the last remaining Geocities page on the internet.

In 1944 Urban Raef was awakened in the wee hours by a strange smell. Nauseated and weak, he began suffering from vomiting — and not the normal I-just-woke-up-in-1940’s-Illinios vom either! He soon realized he was unable to move his legs. His wife feared a “domestic gas attack,” which is one of those fun phrases that in yee-oldie times meant “the pilot light is out” but now means a group of white nationalists are making mustard gas. His wife tried to check the stove but found her legs wouldn’t move either! Knowing herself to be free of milk-leg or whatever else you get from contact with yee-oldie times, there was only one… two… ok, four, possibilities!

So begins the story of the Mad Gasser of Mattoon!

That, or mass hysteria. Or a chemical spill. Or, maybe an alien. A hysterical, chemical-laden, alien known only as the “Anesthetic Prowler!”

Also, he was known as the Phantom Anesthetist!

Soon the Mattoon Journal-Gazette printed the headline “Mrs. Kearney and Daughter First Victims,” leading townspeople to assume there might be more. Luckily, that was just poppy-cock from the jib-jabbers at the Gazette, for Mrs. Kearney and her daughter were, in fact, the fifth and sixth victims of the 3rd attack of the Mad Gasser!

Soon there were tails of illness inducing gas almost every night! And not just on sausage-night.

Police, under the watchful eye of Chief of Police C.E. Cole remained skeptical.

Perhaps it was a prowler in the night trying to render would-be robbery victims unconscious or immobile. But he figured that was just corn-water, or whatever delightfully old-timey term they used for balderdash… Steve?

Some thought the problem to be the nearby Atlas-Imperial chemical factory tossing its chemical byproducts out the window, as was customary at the time. Perhaps carbon tetrachloride or trichloroethylene, both of which have a sweet odor and can induce symptoms similar to those reported by the purported Mad Gasser victims may have been the substance released.

For their part the company claimed they had only small quantities of either chemical and because no one at the factory had been affected all was well at the toxin factory.

As reports of the Mad Gasser’s rampage continued the FBI became involved. They interviewed witnesses and victims like Carl and Beulah Cordes of North 21st street, who, upon returning home at the unseemly hour of 10pm did report a tall man in a dark cap with a chemical spray hose prowling about. Unfortunately, Carl was merely 1950’s fit, and the in-shape-out-of-shape taxi driver was unable to catch the menace, perhaps forgetting he was a professional goer of places and could have driven the Anesthetist down.

Other witnesses described a tall woman who, dressed as a man, pranced from one window to the next leaving chemical-laced serviettes to put off guard dogs and flummox women like Beulah who habitually smelled any bit of cloth she happened to find.

Finally, some reported footprints in their lawns. Footprints that could only have been left by the Mad Gasser roaming from home to home. But how could they know? To quote from Loren Coleman’s Mysterious America, artist renderings of the Mad Gasser depicted him as “not-quite-human, possibly extraterrestrial, being.” Which in their defence, does stand out.

In the end there were over 20 such gas attacks but by September 12 of 1944 police had received so many reports they deemed false alarms they reduced the priority of the case and advised citizens to use restraint when discharging firearms at those who seemed Mad, or Gassy.

All said and done, the event was deemed a case of Mass hysteria. In 1945 the Journal of Abnormal and Social Psychology published “The ‘phantom anesthetist’ of Mattoon: a field study of mass hysteria” by Donald M. Johnson, who was surely a human man.

Looking back over the years it has been discovered that at least some of the attacks were authentic. While the greater Mad Gasser is still a man of myth, investigators are sure at least a few opportunistic burglars co-opted the gas-and-grab scheme to rob houses.

And there we go. Perhaps it was aliens, or a large drag queen with too much hair spray, but one thing is for sure, the people of Mattoon smelt it and for at least the Coles, ’twas the Mad Gasser who dealt it.

Show Story

Today I have yet another installment of Weird…History…ree…ree…ree.

For a change we are not in Russia, Germany or the US and there are nary a Nazi to be found.

Now, if you are anything like me, you may have spent some time considering some of the more…unusual ways to die. And sometimes, by unusual, I mean both humiliating, weird and awful. So today I’d like to discuss one of these ways in a story I have titled:

Dirty Dancing 2: The First French New Wave

We’re going to be traveling a good ways back in time, 501 years back to be exact. That’s right, it’s 1518 and we are in the village of Strasbourg (it wasn’t technically in France at that time because it was then part of the Holy Roman Empire bc Catholicism and that surely didn’t help this particular situation, but it’s in modern day France so my title stands).

It was mid-July and a week before the feast day of Mary Magdalene. Magdalene, you may recall, was a follower of Jesus and supposedly one of the first individuals to discover Jesus had checked out of his tomb a little early. Or a few days late, depending on your view. She’s also the apparently upstanding lady about whom Pope Gregory wildly misconstrued the ‘infallible scripture’ in a 591 sermon declaring her a prostitute.

Now I mention this because women are the literal WORST and this story, as many do, starts with a woman intent on humanity’s downfall. Or at least some peasants in the pre-France midlands.

So it was this week before Mary ‘Jerusalem’s Bicycle” Magdalene’s festival that a woman known only as Frau Troffea stepped out of her house (first mistake, hussy). Unlike most normal day trips to the butcher, baker or candlestick-maker, on this morning Frau Troffea instead began to… dance. Or something approximating dancing as her legs moved to and fro, her muscles apparently twitched spasmodically and she late-Middle Ages-bee-bopped all around the village. She twisted, twirled and shook and, most unnervingly, did it all silently. Fortunately, other folks in town were glad to see Frau Troffea so joyous as to be prancing about and, instead of stoning her as may have been her lot in other contemporaneous areas, per BBC.com, onlookers “apparently laughed and clapped at her energy and joie de vivre.

While this may have been a delightful afternoon, or even full day of Spring Break revelry, instead for the poor Frau… well she danced herself to collapse and had to have neighbors carry her home. The fun was not yet over as within a few hours of fitful sleep she was back at it again. By the following day her shoes were soaked with blood and still, she danced…for 6 days straight.

And thus began what we now refer to as the French Dancing Plague of 1518 (the date is important because, though this was one of the largest and best chronicled, there were other random outbreaks of Ferris Bueller-parade-scene proportions throughout Europe in the mid to late Middle Ages, including areas of Germany, Switzerland and Holland and one random case in Madagascar in 1840.)

So Frau ‘hot to trot’ Troffea may have begun her dance solo, but it didn’t take long before she had Kevin Bacon-ed some followers into joining her. By the end of her week-long shimmy she had gained approximately 40 dancing followers. (And every modern musical’s triumphant finale wants in on her secret.)

All visions of the end of Les Miserables aside (hey, it’s French and all), what was beginning was actually pretty fucking crazy. By the end of the month of July some 400 people had taken to the Medieval streets to dance, dance, dance revolution and suddenly John Lithgow’s uptight Footloose preacher seems much less unreasonable. (Many sources claim the numbers of dancers were predominantly female, which of course they were.)

Because no one had a single clue as to what the hell was going on, at first the leaders of the town tried to go with it (“kids these days and their hippity hoppity”). They built a stage where professional dancers joined in with the…amateurs(?) and a band was hired to roam the streets to provide backup music. As Britannica.com puts it: “The civic and religious leaders theorized that more dancing was the solution, and so they arranged for guildhalls for the dancers to gather in, musicians to accompany the dancing, and professional dancers to help the afflicted to continue dancing.“ They were SO close, as obviously the only solution would have been more cowbell.

Ok, so 1518 Strasbourg had one hell of a street dance scene going on, but there were soon some serious drawbacks. It wasn’t long before this kind of days long cardio started causing the afflicted people to, well, drop dead. Everything from dehydration to strokes to heart attacks to dance fever was, at the height of the outbreak, causing up to 15 people a day to keel over dead in the streets.

(Side note: if you’re looking for a more modern sorta-equivalent, check out the 1969 film ‘They Shoot Horses Don’t They’. Directed by Sidney Pollack and starring an absolutely delicious Jane Fonda, this is only included because of the dancing until dying part. In this case, it portrays the Depression marathon ‘dance-offs’ which were held for publicity for the venue and a possible payout for the winners. The movie is absolutely goddamn great, but bear in mind, it’s not part of the Depression Era in time period along. It’s grim, is what I’m saying.)

Back to the deadly rhythm nation, already in progress: So yes, the gyrating had reached literal hysterical proportions by late August to early September. Per Historian and author Jon Waller (his book? “A Time to Dance, A Time to Die: The Extraordinary Story of the Dancing Plague of 1518,” so he knows his death dancing), “That the event took place is undisputed. These people were not just trembling, shaking or convulsing; although they were entranced, their arms and legs were moving as if they were purposefully dancing.” Now while the video of Thriller was, dare I say THRILLING when it came out, for 16th century peasants hollowed eyed, nearly dead street dancers would be at the very least alarming, so surely there was much relief when the mania began to fade after about three months.

Because this is Waiting 4 Wrath and there are only so many sources I can find in a few days and no budget, I was unable to find a number or even an estimate of how many people actually died from this particular plague. Even more confounding, no one seems to have pinpointed exactly WHY this phenomena actually took place.

Of course, ‘experts’ of the time were waiting on the sidelines to insert their opinions. To the absolute surprise of no one there was the talk of demon possession, as well as something called “hot blood”, which I believe was started by the Reptilians. In fact, it only took 8 years for long-time referenced fake-doctor and proponent of pigeon shoes Paracelsus to make an appearance in Strasbourg, wielding his knowledge of honestly nothing.

Of course he had he own very special reason as to why the plague started. And why was that? Well, it was because Frau Troffea’s husband hated the fact she liked to dance! That’s right, she danced herself into a bloodied-foot delirium simply to annoy her husband. In fact, per Paracelsus, the entire event was born of sexual frustration and wild imaginations, which for Paracelsus is actually not a bad suggestion. The fact he didn’t blame it on sheep farts or the lack of aspirating pond water really shows his growth as a physician. He did however label those afflicted as ‘whores and scoundrels’, recommended their being locked in a dark room (apparently the ‘more unpleasant the better’) and fed only bread and water, so he still pretty much sucks.

So in the simplest terms, it was the general consensus at that time that women and their hysterically wandering wombs were the cause of, and mainly affected by, this event for the same reasons that show up throughout the stories of history: their having any form of sexuality and too much or not enough religious piety. So by this token I’m really hoping a wild dance frency will break out for the heavily hair-sprayed harpies at the next Republican National Convention. My money is on Mrs. Mike Pence leading the conga line.

Anyway, moving into current times and the more scientifically plausible reasons. An often reference culprit is ergot. What exactly is ergot? It’s a fungus that grows on rye and related grains, and can infect people from both the grain and the products made from it. It also has a really fascinating historical story. Ergotism refers to the severe reaction that comes from ingesting this fungus and, per webmd.com, “During the Middle Ages, ergotism, a severe reaction to ergot-contaminated food (such as rye bread), was common and was known as St. Anthony’s fire. This illness was often cured by visiting the shrine of St. Anthony, which happened to be in an ergot-free region of France. Additionally, some historians believe that ergot played a role in the Salem witch hunt of 1692. They think that some women in Salem developed peculiar behaviors and accused other women of being witches as a result of eating ergot-contaminated food.”

Back to our author/historian, per John Waller, the fact that living in this particularly stressful and superstitious point of history opens up many options as to why a mass dance seemed like a good way to lose your goddamn mind. Per history.com according to Waller: “the explanation most likely concerns St. Vitus, a Catholic saint who pious 16th century Europeans believed had the power to curse people with a dancing plague. When combined with the horrors of disease and famine, both of which were tearing through Strasbourg in 1518, the St. Vitus superstition may have triggered a stress-induced hysteria that took hold of much of the city.”

(Additionally, the afflictions of St. Vitus’ dance is usually considered symptomatic of Sydenham’s chorea, which is, per Wikipedia: a disorder characterized by rapid, uncoordinated jerking movements primarily affecting the face, hands and feet. So we are basically back where we started.)

He also dismisses the suggestion of ergot and gives an interesting reasoning for it. The time period was rife with any number of reasons to be stressed. According to Waller, “Having suffered severely from famine, and in many cases wiped out and reduced to begging, the region was in an ongoing crisis. Many had died of starvation. The area was riddled with diseases, including smallpox and syphilis … It was a superstitious time. From the sound of it, these people didn’t have much left in their lives but superstition.”

But how would this negate ergot as a possible factor? Simply put, the affected just physically wouldn’t be able to maintain this level of exertion if ergot was the cause. Poisoning from ergot results in symptoms ranging from nausea, vomiting, muscle pain and weakness, numbness, itching, and rapid or slow heartbeat. More severe poisoning can progress to gangrene, vision problems, confusion, spasms, convulsions, unconsciousness, and death. With such an intense list of side effects a severe case of ergot poisoning would tend to kill a physically compromised peasant rather than allowing them days of intensive exercise.

This is a pretty good point. Waller believes a mixture of intense life stressors, societal pressures, rampant diseases that could affect the mind (such as syphilis) all wrapped up in a mindset of extreme superstitions. While it may not answer every question raised, I think it goes further than blaming Frau Troffea’s hot blood or witchy women trying to overthrow society.

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Lazy Horse Blood Orange Ale – from Brendan

Happy Ending

https://www.freethink.com/articles/this-woman-is-on-a-mission-to-turn-beer-into-food

Jacquie Berglund bought the brand name Finnegans for a buck. From there she used the beer to expand into four midwest states and fight food insecurity.

These days, it’s a hybrid for-profit/nonprofit company whose motto is, “We turn beer into food.”

Berglund can trace her initial spark back to when she heard Billy Shore speak in 1998. “It was like my hair was on fire,” Berglund says, adding that listening to Shore’s speech was the moment she knew she wanted to use her business acumen to launch a company with a social mission. Berglund took a cue from the Paul Newman Foundation and their 100% profit donation model. Now, she donates the profits from Finnegans beer to Finnegans Community Fund and uses it to provide food to people who need it most.

“I’m a basic needs gal,” she says, “We live in the wealthiest country in the world. It’s a crime that people can’t meet their basic needs.”

So, to turn beer into food, Finnegans uses the profits from the beer company to buy organic produce from local farmers. They distribute the produce to food banks in the area. They also have a ‘reverse food truck’ that is used to collect food and monetary donations in exchange for beer samples. The truck has been to beer festivals, corporate events, and even weddings where the bride and groom want to ‘pay it forward.’ Berglund says ‘it takes a village’ to make a significant impact. So, she has had up to eighty volunteers pouring beer for festival goers, who can have a drink and donate to the cause in one place.

Finnegans is now in its 20th year of business and approaching two million dollars of impact, which equates to about two million pounds of organic food distributed to families in need. But Berglund, who refers to Finnegans as “the small little beer engine that could,” isn’t showing any signs of slowing down.

To wrap up, I want to add that having listened to a recent episode of CogDis it’s hard to see stories like these – or like many we’ve done – without now wondering about the societal shortcomings that have allowed 1 in 6 people to be food insecure and required businesses like this to mend the holes in our safety nets. However, in this case not only has good been done but it’s proved wildly self sufficient which is not only good for the area she’s in but our ability to argue that socially conscientious programs don’t need to be an economic drain, which is, I think, the most common reason given in America for not bolstering our own humanitarian infrastructure as so many other developed countries have.

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In This Week’s Show, episode 251, we get hysterically involved in French DDR until we sashay away to the world’s best food truck for a beer.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Nataraja (the personification of Shiva who is considered the ‘lord of the dance’) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that when smart kids share random facts adults tell them how smart they are. But when adults share random facts people tell them they are weird and annoying…

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that in his guise as Nataraja, Shiva is both creating and destroying the world, all at once, crushing a demon underneath his feet as he does so.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

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Breaking Bud by Knee Deep Brewing Company
Donated By: Aaron


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* BA Rating: 4.15
* Style: IPA
* ABV: 7%
* Aaron: 5
* Jenn: 4
* Steve: 4


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The Four Horsepeople of the funny bone.

“Waiting 4 Wrath is a great show with great hosts. Each brings something to the table that I can relate to. Jen brings the level headed reason. Aaron brings the silly. Steve brings the curmudgeon (You kids get off my lawn!) But it is my yeti brethren Shea that brings the lesson. Every week I learn along with him and this week I learned that when you fish from the top of a building you can’t bait your hook there because everyone knows you can’t Fit A Lure On The Roof.”

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Voicemail From Mr. Bible Pants

Message from Sir Hairy Palms the Blind (maybe don’t read it but reply?)

Fun story about fixing lefties.

In grade 2 ( or 3) , so like 1976 or so, I had a public school teacher who refused to allow me to learn how to print because I'm left handed. If I tried she'd hit my hand with a yardstick and make me sit away from my desk to make sure I didn't sneak practice being a devil spawn with delusions of literacy.

Same teacher also told me that "God didn't make you a dirty savage (I'm 1/2 native canadian) The Devil did that. But god expects you to overcome it".

She had me so convinced I was broken and evil my family didn't find out about the writing prohibition until my father asked the school about moving me into a special ed class and the real story came out about why I was near illiterate compared to my classmates. Not sure if Mrs Grizdale got fired but I never saw her again.

Yeah. Religion is fun. Been an atheist pretty much ever since, so I should thank the evil bitch for that.

Longtime listener Ed sent us a pic of the delicious chocolate Shake Chocolate Porter beer from a few weeks ago. He’s tried his best to like beer, but not even this one worked. :( He did say he still liked us so let’s call it a win!

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Learn more about The Mad Gasser of Mattoon right now on http://patreon.com/w4w!

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Our story begins in the sleepy, but not as sleepy as it will be, town of Mattoon, Illinois. Mattoon is a small town of about 18,000 people, nestled in the treeline of Coles County between a prairie and another prairie.

Fun fact about Mattoon, the city website appears to be the last remaining Geocities page on the internet.

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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 250 - The One Where We Learned About Books, Bleach, & Bidets https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-250/ Fri, 23 Aug 2019 13:00:37 +0000 https://waiting4wrath.com/?p=47805 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-250/#disqus_thread https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-250/feed/ 0 In This Week’s Show, episode 250, we’ll start in a flourishing age of patronage and reason, then end in a flushing of American populist rationalization. In This Week’s Show, episode 250, we’ll start in a flourishing age of patronage and reason, then end in a flushing of American populist rationalization.

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while St. Timothy (the patron saint of stomach ailments) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Eat more fiber…

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that the collective genome of all the bacteria living in your gut is at least 150 times larger than your own genome?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Mural Agua Fresca by New Belgium collab with Cerveceria Primus, Mexico City

BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/192/335648/

  • BA Rating: 3.52/5
  • Style:  Fruit and Field Beer
  • ABV: 4%
  • Aaron: 5
  • Jenn: 5
  • Steve: 6

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We have an address to send us beer again! Beer donations can be sent attn: Big Gay Jim to the Bear Bottom Bar & Grill. Check out the show notes and/or https://BearBottom307.com for an address.

You should really just check out https://bearbottom307.com anyway.

Big thanks to Big Gay Jim and Hubby for letting us use their location for beer donations, which, we’re actually kind of in need of. The last of the donations have gone pretty quickly so if you were thinking of supporting the show and patreon.com/w4w sounds too much like sending us money, you can send us beer instead!

Dum Dum Followup again: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/08/14/flat-earthers-homemade-rocket-grounded-due-to-bad-craigslist-water-heater/

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  • https://anticastamperiaarmena.com
  • http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20190708-the-city-that-launched-the-publishing-industry

Since we’re talking about education today – or lack thereof – I thought it might be interesting to dive into some of the earliest ways information of stored. I’m not going to go so far as cave paintings but instead will focus on the earliest printed books.

Germany is often considered the birthplace of publishing because of Johannes Gutenberg’s invention of the movable type printing press in the mid-15th century – not to be confused with WordPress’s homage-named movable block editor which is decidedly less revolutionary. But we’re going to gloss over Johannes as well and move straight to Venetian bookbinders.

The modern Antica Stamperia Amena is dedicated to the preservation of artisan bookmaking. Paolo Olbi is a craftsman there.

Located in Dorsoduro neighborhood of Venice in an 18th-century building built for the Zenobio family the Antica is now owned and operated by the Armenian Mekhitarist (mecha-tourist) Fathers of Venice (an Armenian Catholic congregation).

“Since typographic art arrived in Venice in 1469, [the printing industry] underwent an extraordinarily large development because of the features of the lagoon city,” explained Federica Benedetti, a librarian at the Marciana National Library of Venice, one of Italy’s oldest surviving public libraries. “[Venice was] the main naval force in the Mediterranean Sea – it was in the centre of a thick net of commercial relations with the greatest European and non-European powers. Merchants and artisans [brought over] technological innovations and capital.”

Thanks to the cities dominance in trade Venice quickly became a hub of publishing and print trade. Perhaps most important was the notion of the freedom of the press. At the time, Venice was such a powerful hub of commerce that even Rome and the Catholic Church were unable to censor it.

Vince was, essentially, the Spacing Guild of its day.

“Printers came here because [we] had freedom of [the] press,” Olbi said. “[Venice] was a Republic, not a Signoria [a government run by a lord].”

One of these printers was Aldus Manutius (man-utes-use-a), a humanist and a trained scholar of Greek and Latin classics. Manutius moved to Venice in 1490. Like other scholars, artists and intellectuals, he was attracted by the city’s relative liberty and inspired by the potential of an intellectual renaissance away from the Church’s restrictive grip.

In 1495 he printed his first book, the Erotemata (eh-luta-mata) by Constaine Lascaris. It was, basically, a book of Greek grammar.

Manutius (man-utes-use-a) embarked on “an ambitious publishing-educational programme to disseminate and protect the classic Greek and Latin culture,” according to Benedetti.

He pioneered the ‘formato in ottavo’ for his classics editions – the printing of small, portable books that measured one eighth of the initial sheet of paper from which they were cut. Predecessors of today’s paperbacks, they were easy to carry around and more affordable to buy. “He was a very entrepreneurial man,” Olbi said. “For us it might be [nothing], but for the epoch that was used to extremely large and heavy books, it was a significant development.”

While most of his fellow publishers continued to use the Gutenberg-popularised Gothic type, the Aldine Press began to print in ‘aldino’. Widely known today as italics because it was invented in Italy by an Italian, this new font was created by Francesco Griffo, a punch cutter who worked with Manutius (man-utes-use-a). So you have the Italians to thank whenever I embed a pun in the show notes. In a nutshell, he needed smaller, more condensed lettering to make Greek texts easier to read, especially on his smaller pages.

At the time, Venice was the heart of Italian publishing. It produced a little more than half of all books at the time. Some 250 publishers printed at least 25,000 editions in the 15th and 16th centuries. And because of their ability to print smaller, cheaper, and more accessible books, literacy flourished – much to the chagrin of the Church.

Armenian Mekhitarist (mecha-tourist) Congregation, whose monastery on the island of San Lazzaro became home to one of Venice’s most important printing houses and was instrumental in the printing revolution. So it’s fitting they now oversee Olbi and his workshop. At 81, Olbi is one of Venice’s most famous bookbinders and the only one with his own printing press. For more than 50 years he’s been working with paper, making hand-bound notebooks, leather-embossed photo albums and hand-printed diaries.

“The most beautiful things are made by hand.”

If you want to know more about Olbi there’s a link in the show notes. He’s trained over 100 book-binders in his career and is currently training two apprentices to take over when he can no longer work. Despite a lack of funding, the acqua alta (Venetian high-tide) which causes many problems for his ground-level paper shop, and the mass-marketed, trinket and souvenir shop nature of modern Venice, which he blames on his generations desperate attempts to make Venice a thriving port-city again, he’s managed to bring bookbinding back into the forefront of Venice’s heritage areas.

This Week’s Stories

Inna Godda I don’ta trusta

Well, okay folks. Since I have the short attention span of a small child or perhaps a goldfish on crack and couldn’t decide on a single topic to focus on, we’re reverting to our esteemed past with a stories show. The major difference is that I’ll be taking all of the stories rather than giving you a break and allowing my co-hosts to contribute stories of their own. It’s my show and I’ll show it as I choose to damnit. With that said, let’s get right into it, shall we?

I want to kick it off with an uplifting story of a douchey white guy, in this case, Kentucky State Rep. Brandon Reed, a Republican minister from Hodgenville, who pushed through a Kentucky law requiring all schools to prominently display “In god we trust”. That’s not the uplifting part though, as I think we can all agree. It’s fucking moronic, excludes those of differing beliefs, and generally goes against what the country was founded upon.

The actually uplifting part of the story is that Lexington, Kentucky’s Fayette County Public Schools chose to comply with the letter of the law, just as they were mandated to do, but in the best way possible. Rather than creating non-inclusive signage to comply, they simply framed oversized images of the back of one dollar bills and placed them in the schools. The signs are compliant since the back of the US one dollar bill has “In God We Trust” just above the word “ONE”.

The dipshit Reed, who sponsored the bill is not happy, which makes me even more happy, saying, “It is extremely disappointing to see Fayette County Public Schools spend time searching for silly loopholes to a law that passed with broad support from both Democrats and Republicans…” Okay, I could go on a rant about how this fucking mental midget just doesn’t get it, or if he does, panders to his constituents regarding the state sponsorship of religion, but that would just be a waste of time at this point. What I’d rather do is congratulate the school district for making the creative effort to comply with stupidity while also making a genuine effort to be inclusive of all those who have to spend their time within the walls of their buildings.

I’d like to wrap up this story with a bit about how American Atheists are attempting to help the rest of the Kentucky schools do the right thing too. They’ve created a historically accurate poster available for free to anyone who wants one which features a short history lesson of the nature of our nation’s motto which says the following:

  • In 1956, at the height of the Cold War, Congress passed a law declaring In God We Trust the national motto of the United States in order to distinguish the United States from the Soviet Union. This replaced the traditional motto of the United States, first adopted by Congress in 1782: E Pluribus Unum, Latin for “Out of many, one”

This sign complies with the letter of the Kentucky law by having In God We Trust prominently displayed, but it is much smaller than E Pluribus Unum.

Now we can wait for a followup when the fuck heads of the Kentucky legislature mandate that all of the in god we trust signs be six foot wide and embossed gold foil on parchment and placed directly in front of the main entrance.

  • https://www.kentucky.com/news/local/education/article233993192.html?fbclid=IwAR0ZAqF7975ctsP5gxBEYEhmg-zog8o88EckZB9eQH-sZDzrZcFBGV5IbkU
  • https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/08/15/atheist-group-wants-to-help-other-ky-schools-sidestep-the-in-god-we-trust-law/
  • Original Motto Protect https://originalmotto.us
  • Secular Yakking: https://secularyakking.podbean.com/

Bleach is not a vitamin

Just in case you were starting to begin to possibly consider the slight chance that the world is getting a bit better, let me sock that wind right out of your sails. The simple fact is that stupid appears to be winning. Big case in point is the US Food and Drug Administration warning again last week that drinking bleach is dangerous, potentially life-threatening, and you should not do it. Well, fuck. How am I supposed to spend my weekends and medicate my children? What if they caught the autisms? Now what?

Those of us, apparently in the minority, who aren’t idiots think to ourselves, “What the fuck are people thinking?”. I’m becoming more and more convinced that thinking people are quickly becoming outnumbered by those who just believe whatever they see online, completely lacking what used to be known as common sense. (aaron-so rare it’s practically a super power) In the last 10 or so years, there has been a rise in unscrupulous online vendors who market “miracle” bleach concoctions, claiming that they can cure everything from AIDS to hepatitis to hair loss. More scary yet are those who are using chlorine dioxide “treatments” in order to attempt to “cure” their children of autism, a condition that isn’t curable since it’s innate to the person’s being, much like their sexual expression, or their left-handedness. People have such an urge to “cure” their children’s other-ness that they seriously would risk the kid’s life vs just learning to deal with the situation.

Poison control centers across the US have seen over 16,500 cases involving chlorine dioxide since just 2014, with about 2500 under the age of 12, over 2100 showing serious side effects with 50 of those, life-threatening and eight deaths. The problem is that those who are prone to believing the word of charlatans are generally the same people who aren’t swayed by statistics (fuck math). These are folks who believe in anecdote as science, in exception as a rule, and goddamnit, homeopathy is medicine.

The origins of using chlorine dioxide which is a mix of sodium chlorite and an acid activator such as citric acid, begin with Jim Humble. This former scientologist claimed he’d used it to heal a case of malaria while in South America. He went on to create a religion devoted to the substance and called it… wait for it… Miracle Mineral Solution, claiming it would cure pretty much anything. This was picked up by a Chicago real estate agent named Kerri Rivera, who brought the snake oil to the autism community with her book, “Healing the Symptoms Known as Autism.” She, of course, has no credentials having anything whatsoever to do with medicine or healing anything other than homelessness. She claims a degree in homeopathy, which at least wouldn’t be actively damaging, and that she “works with MDs and PhD scientists.” She now has a line of supplements and a consultation business to “treat” autistic children while she travels the autism cure circuit. She has a “clinic” in Mexico and claims to have cured over 500 children. Holy horseshit!

There are some who are trying to improve the situation though. Melissa Eaton and Amanda Seigler from North Carolina and Florida respectively are a couple of moms who have spent much of their free time infiltrating more than a dozen private Facebook groups for parents of autistic children. Feeling that someone should do something about ignorant fuckwits who are poisoning children, they disguise themselves as parents looking for answers about their kid’s autism, and once they gain admittance, they take screenshots of posts from parents who describe giving their kids “treatments”. They will then research the identity of these people and alert local child Protective Services, which they’ve done over 100 times since 2016.

Another person fighting the good fight is Emma Dalmayne. She is autistic herself and is a loud disability rights champion from London. She has autistic children and was the inspiration for Seigler and Eaton. After she wrote a series of articles published by the Daily Mirror, Facebook in 2018 closed several of Kerri Rivera pages and groups (who naturally went on to open new groups with more carefully vetted members). More recently Amazon banned her book as well as another similar one. Then days later, YouTube began deleting her videos and channels.

I know this feels like trying to blow out a forest fire with a soda straw, but I sincerely hope these efforts continue and cuts the legs off of just a bit more of the dangerous stupid in the world.

  • https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/08/the-fda-warns-not-to-drink-bleach-in-case-you-needed-that-reminder/
  • https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/moms-go-undercover-fight-fake-autism-cures-private-facebook-groups-n1007871
  • Jenn’s Bleach Story: https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-183

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Breaking Bud by Knee Deep Brewing Company

Donated By: Aaron

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In This Week’s Show, episode 250, we’ll start in a flourishing age of patronage and reason, then end in a flushing of American populist rationalization.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while St. Timothy (the patron saint of stomach ailments) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Eat more fiber...

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that the collective genome of all the bacteria living in your gut is at least 150 times larger than your own genome?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Mural Agua Fresca by New Belgium collab with Cerveceria Primus, Mexico City

BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/192/335648/


* BA Rating: 3.52/5
* Style:  Fruit and Field Beer
* ABV: 4%
* Aaron: 5
* Jenn: 5
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Big News!

We have an address to send us beer again! Beer donations can be sent attn: Big Gay Jim to the Bear Bottom Bar & Grill. Check out the show notes and/or https://BearBottom307.com for an address.

You should really just check out https://bearbottom307.com anyway.

Big thanks to Big Gay Jim and Hubby for letting us use their location for beer donations, which, we’re actually kind of in need of. The last of the donations have gone pretty quickly so if you were thinking of supporting the show and patreon.com/w4w sounds too much like sending us money, you can send us beer instead!

Dum Dum Followup again: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/08/14/flat-earthers-homemade-rocket-grounded-due-to-bad-craigslist-water-heater/

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* https://anticastamperiaarmena.com
* http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20190708-the-city-that-launched-the-publishing-industry


Since we're talking about education today - or lack thereof - I thought it might be interesting to dive into some of the earliest ways information of stored. I'm not going to go so far as cave paintings but instead will focus on the earliest printed books.

Germany is often considered the birthplace of publishing because of Johannes Gutenberg's invention of the movable type printing press in the mid-15th century - not to be confused with Wordpress's homage-named movable block editor which is decidedly less revolutionary. But we're going to gloss over Johannes as well and move straight to Venetian bookbinders.

The modern Antica Stamperia Amena is dedicated to the preservation of artisan bookmaking. Paolo Olbi is a craftsman there.

Located in Dorsoduro neighborhood of Venice in an 18th-century building built for the Zenobio family the Antica is now owned and operated by the Armenian Mekhitarist (mecha-tourist) Fathers of Venice (an Armenian Catholic congregation).

“Since typographic art arrived in Venice in 1469, [the printing industry] underwent an extraordinarily large development because of the features of the lagoon city,” explained Federica Benedetti, a librarian at the Marciana National Library of Venice, one of Italy’s oldest surviving public libraries. “[Venice was] the main naval force in the Mediterranean Sea – it was in the centre of a thick net of commercial relations with the greatest European and non-European powers. Merchants and artisans [brought over] technological innovations and capital.”

Thanks to the cities dominance in trade Venice quickly became a hub of publishing and print trade.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Learned About Books, Bleach, & Bidets yes 58:25
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 249 - The One Where We Get Off With A Little Help From Our Friends https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-249/ Fri, 16 Aug 2019 13:00:10 +0000 https://waiting4wrath.com/?p=47781 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-249/#disqus_thread https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-249/feed/ 0 In This Week’s Show, episode 249, we learn that when it comes to yee-olde medicine, pigeons, penis, and pigeon-penis, are all you need. In This Week’s Show, episode 249, we learn that when it comes to yee-olde medicine, pigeons, penis, and pigeon-penis, are all you need.

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Priapus (the Greek god of fruit gardens and male genitalia) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that you can lead your horse to water. You can lead your horse behind. Because if your horse don’t dance and if he don’t dance then he ain’t no horse of mine.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

I learned a lot of weird historical sex stuff researching this show. In fact, in 2008, while excavating the city of Amathus, on the south coast of Cyprus, archaeologists found a curse which went straight to the point: “May your penis hurt when you make love.”

Also I’m going to make Aaron embed a picture of Priapus for you all to see. Sorry not sorry.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Shake Chocolate Porter from Boulder Brewing
Donated By: RW

This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Jenn – Rosalie taught the guys they can’t say cactus.

Steve – Aaron and I guested on Atheist Nomads this week where we had a lot of fun and had a really good conversation that, unsurprisingly, meandered a bit.

Look for Episode 316 of Atheist Nomads at https://www.atheistnomads. .follow the link in the show notes.

Patron Story

The Ivory Tower

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/offbeat/victorian-era-sex-toy-returned-to-ireland-after-crowdfunding-bid-1.3971258?mode=amp

This story comes from a land where it is illegal to blaspheme the church, not the middle East. The land of leprechauns and fairies and this one time I went there.

Back in 2017 an international collector bought a rare 19th century Irish Victorian ivory dildo… yep dildo. This really ignited Shawna Scott’s passion for Irish sexual history.

“It made my heart sink when it was sold. It just seemed like such an important part of Irish sexual history,” said Ms Scott.

Ms Scott is a sex positive busisness person who owns and runs “Ireland’s best sex shop” online, Sex Siopa (see-ah-pee) https://sexsiopa.ie/. Looking at the website it’s obvious that she fights to break taboos and help her clients enjoy themselves in healthy fun ways. Ms. Scott theorizes that “Sometimes with Irish history, unless something is tied to the famine or 1916 it gets a little forgotten or re-prioritised.”

Scott kept on the trail of the ivory dildo and was surprised to hear that it back up for auction and she had a chance to get her hands on it. Unfortunately it was once again purchased buy a private collector and Scott was crestfallen. The dildo, which is at least 130 years old, and is believed to have been owned by a wealthy Anglo-Irish household, received more than 100 bids from nearly 40 different countries when it was auctioned in April 2017.

Last weekend, a customer emailed Ms Scott that the same item was up for auction again. This caused her to have what she calls an “Indiana Jones moment. I said to myself, that belongs in a museum.”

My big question now is why the dildo keeps getting resold? It seems like a game, these wealthy buyers just sitting on their ivory towers. Or maybe it is haunted? Too big? Smells funny?

Any way, Scott had a problem; she didn’t have enough money to buy the antique cock, especially if it went for anything close to the amount it fetched years ago.

So at 3:30pm on Monday Scott took to Twitter to raise as much money as she could so she could purchase it and relocate it to a museum in Ireland. By the time the auction started at 6pm she had raised over €1,000 but in the end she only had to spend €620 to win the bidding, or around 700 freedom dollars. Her first task was to confirm that it was the same ivory dildo that left Irish coasts back in 2017 and after examining photos she was able to tell scuff marks and imperfections matched.

The long hard trip back into Ireland isn’t quite complete yet as Scott is now trying to find where to bury her bone for the final time… sorry, where to home her phallis for the long haul. Her preference is for the Chester Beatty Library in Dublin Castle or the Decorative Arts Museum in Collins Barracks. The dildo, which is described on the auction site as an “ivory companion”, is believed to have originated in China and to have been brought back to Ireland as a gift from husband to wife. The ivory dates from the 1840s.

“There was so much going in that time period. People were literally starving to death and meanwhile someone was bringing this home for their spouse,” says Scott.

As a historical artefact, it challenges myths about Irish people being repressed, she says. “I always get asked about how repressed we are in Ireland. I think we’re much more liberal than we think we are.”

So I had planned a story on Israelie intelligence officers chasing Josef Mengele in South America, but I just needed less Nazi in my life. Plus, I’m sure Steve could tell it better anyways. So thanks to a weird story Shea shared, I’ve decided to instead give you all a lesson of…

Sex Ed in History-ree-ree-ree-ree….

And since we haven’t done anything in quiz format in a while, well, let’s do that. Multiple choice, no subject is taboo and there was no effort made for chronological order.

1.)What sexually transmitted malady was Pliny the Elder attempting to prevent with his concoction of “mouse or pigeon dung, mixed with oil & wine”?

a.) syphilis b.) leprosy c.) pregnancy d.) genital warts

This was supposedly an early form of birth control, which if I catch a male partner intentionally ingesting pigeon poo, he will definitely NOT be getting me pregnant. One of the earliest gynecologists, Soranus of Ephesus, had a least the right idea. He suggested a wool plug inserted into the uterus, held in place by a “gummy substance”.

2.) Ancient Romans had a derisive term, the Latin word fricatores, for what group of sexually-non vanilla people?

a.) lesbians b.) ancient furries c.) BDSM participants d.) homosexual men

Friacatores and tribades, were the actual terms used for lesbians, and it roughly translates into ‘those women who rub’. It was used negatively in the early days of the Empire bc, even though men could fuck basically who and whatever they wanted, the act of penetration was considered strictly a man’s role, and the idea of women actually having awesome lesbian sex was considered unnatural and repugnant. This went both for the woman ‘doing the man’s job’ (eye rolling out of my fucking skull) as well as the woman who ‘submitted’.

3.) Which of these items was NOT said to be used as an ancient sex toy?

a.) a box of bees vibrator b.) a goat’s eyelid cockring c.) song bird egg anal beads d.) loaf of bread dildo

Now, I wouldn’t exactly bet money against somewhere along the way a nightingale’s nest was raided to shove up someone’s ass, but I couldn’t find a record of it. Back to Pliny the Elder, who is here to cure any performance issues with his trademark fucking bizarre voodoo: “the right lobe of a vulture’s lungs attached to the body in the skin of a crane, acts powerfully as a stimulant upon males.” But don’t worry, ladies, we’re covered, too, with “bat’s blood … received on a flock of wool and placed beneath a woman’s head.”

4.) What occupational group is generally credited with creating the first life-sized sex doll?

a.) soldiers b.) sailors c.) farmers d.) butchers

Now again, surely long before ships were sailed men were creating things very roughly woman-shaped to stick their dicks into. However, it was ocean voyagers in the 14th century who made the idea of a sex doll an expected item for the crew. Called ‘Dame de Voyage’ in French, ‘Dama De Vinje’ in Spanish, and most awesomely, ‘Seemansbraut’ in German. Now don’t go picturing the Indonesian blow up angel, this were just bundles of straw ‘dressed’ in women’s clothes.

And this is why they saw mermaids.

5.) Speaking of sex dolls, what 20th century war saw the creation of what we consider the ‘modern’ doll?

a.) World War I b.) World War II c.) Korean War d.) Vietnam

And we thought we could do an episode with nouy666 Nazis… Nope, we have head of the SS, Heinrich Himmler to thank for having the first busty, semi-proportionate love doll commissioned with artist Arthur Rink and technician Franz Tschakert. It became known as the the ‘Borghild Field Hygiene Project’ bc he was hoping to stop the loss of troops to STDs. It was also classified as ”Geheime Reichssache”, which was ”more secret than top secret” From borghild.de

“Borghild was meant to reflect the beauty-ideal of the Nazis , i. e. white skin, fair hair and blue eyes. Although the team considered a doll with brown hair , the SS- Hygiene-Institute insisted on manufacturing a ”nordish doll”. Tschakert hoped to plastercast from a living model and a number of famous female athletes were invited to come to his studios, among them Wilhelmina von Bremen and Annette Walter. In the process Tschakert realized it was the wrong way. In a letter to Mrurgowsky he came to the conclusion: ”Sometimes the legs are too short and look deformed, or the lady has a hollow back and arms like a wrestler. The overall appearance is always dreadful and I fear there is no other way than to combine….he Borghild-designer decided to build the doll’s mold in a ”modular way”. In Tschakerts view the doll should be nothing more than a” female bestform”, a ”perfect automaton of lust”, that would combine ”the best of all possible bodies.”

6.) A variety of foods have been considered aphrodisiac for millenia. Which of the following foods were NOT Eros’ little helper in ancient Greece?

a.) lettuce b.) garlic c.) beans d.) artichokes

Not only was it not helpful to your littlest Greek, lettuce was thought to actively wither an erection. But beans and garlic, the food of romance.

7.) In ancient Babylon there was a custom that all women had to perform a sacred duty to the goddess Mylitta (thought to be an early version of Aphrodite). This was a form of sexual activity involving the woman going to the sacred temple of the goddess and…

a.) engaging in sex with a temple priestess b.) serving for a year c.) performing an erotic dance d.) getting paid for sex with a stranger

This was actually considered a form of sacred prostitution. The historian Herodotus describes how women “are continually entering and leaving this place. Whenever a woman comes here and sits down, she may not return home until one of the strangers has tossed silver into her lap and has had intercourse with her outside the sanctuary”.

The earnings were dedicated to the goddess and, while beautiful women were done with their obligation quite quickly, less attractive women had to wait longer, sometimes even years.

8.) In what country’s (hopefully) long ago past was a widow expected to participate in ‘sati’, the ritual that upon the death of her husband, she must throw herself on the funeral pyre to be burned with him and all their posessions?

a.) Iceland b.) India c.) Ireland d.) Indonesia

It was originally a voluntary act, which was thought to demonstrate courage, but it became a forced rite, so yeah. Unfortunately, though banned, this Hindi practice was recorded in isolated events as recently as the late 20th century.

9.) What does ancient Mayan mythology credit their diminutive nature god, Chin, with introducing to their people?

a.) homosexuality b.) orgasms c.) monogomy d.) prostitution

Chin was said to have sodomized a demon to demonstrate to the Mayans how gay sex is done and allowed the nobles to have sex with those from a lower rank.

10.) What country has the sexual festival with the Vulcan-ish name known as Pon?

a.) Iceland b.) India c.) Ireland d.) Indonesia

Seven times a year, celebrants make a pilgrimage to Java, a sacred mountain, to perform a ceremony of good fortune through intercourse. To receive such blessings, participants must spend the night having sex with someone other than their husband or wife. However, according to tradition, their wishes will only come true if they have sex with the same person during all seven celebrations, so it would be easier to just bring your spouse.

Tie-breaker: Now we all know the term ‘hysteria’ is linked to crazy women and their crazy women uteruses, going back to ancient Greece, but why exactly did they think the womb was crazy (besides it being in a woman)?

Due to the taboo surrounding any tampering with a corpse, the Greeks had a very limited understanding of anatomy. At the time the common thought was that women’s wombs literally roamed, randomly, about the body, causing hysteria. To combat this, doctors applied bad smells and loud noises to scare wombs back into position.

Next Week’s Beer

Lake Haze by Big Lake Brewing

Donated By: Steve E.

Faith In Humanity Restored

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/after-decades-of-federal-protection-coral-reefs-are-recovering/

The Hawaiian-Emperor Seamount chain is an underwater mountain range in the central Pacific ocean that was a big area for trawling in the 60s-80s (trawling is fishing by dragging heavy nets along the seafloor). This practice devastated tons of deep-sea coral and destroyed much of their ecological community. In 1977, the US federal government claimed the region and part of the US Exclusive Economic Zone and prevented foreign fleets from trawling the area. In 2006 then president Bush included the area as part of an unpronounceable Marine National Monument which provided even more protection.

Florida State University Associate Professor of Oceanography Amy Baco-Taylor and a team of scientists from both Florida and Texas A&M published findings showing that despite their expectations, they found evidence that some of the species are recovering in the prior damaged areas, as well as finding more undamaged area which contributes to the recovery of the damaged areas.

While it’s too early to know if the evidence of recovery they’re seeing will lead to the return of the area to it’s formerly undamaged state in time, the results are promising and provides evidence to policymakers to show that protecting these areas is valuable.

  • The coral are 300-700 meters down
  • team used manned and unmanned submersibles
  • analyzed over 536000 images
  • new coral growing on the remnants of nets shows recovery since trawling stopped

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In This Week’s Show, episode 249, we learn that when it comes to yee-olde medicine, pigeons, penis, and pigeon-penis, are all you need.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Priapus (the Greek god of fruit gardens and male genitalia) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that you can lead your horse to water. You can lead your horse behind. Because if your horse don't dance and if he don't dance then he ain't no horse of mine.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

I learned a lot of weird historical sex stuff researching this show. In fact, in 2008, while excavating the city of Amathus, on the south coast of Cyprus, archaeologists found a curse which went straight to the point: “May your penis hurt when you make love.”

Also I’m going to make Aaron embed a picture of Priapus for you all to see. Sorry not sorry.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Shake Chocolate Porter from Boulder Brewing
Donated By: RW


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/130/101458/
* BA Rating: 4.8
* Style:  American Porter
* ABV: 5.9%
* Aaron: 10
* Jenn: 9
* Shea: 10
* Steve: 9


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Jenn - Rosalie taught the guys they can’t say cactus.

Steve - Aaron and I guested on Atheist Nomads this week where we had a lot of fun and had a really good conversation that, unsurprisingly, meandered a bit.

Look for Episode 316 of Atheist Nomads at https://www.atheistnomads. .follow the link in the show notes.

Patron Story

The Ivory Tower

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/offbeat/victorian-era-sex-toy-returned-to-ireland-after-crowdfunding-bid-1.3971258?mode=amp

This story comes from a land where it is illegal to blaspheme the church, not the middle East. The land of leprechauns and fairies and this one time I went there.

Back in 2017 an international collector bought a rare 19th century Irish Victorian ivory dildo… yep dildo. This really ignited Shawna Scott's passion for Irish sexual history.

“It made my heart sink when it was sold. It just seemed like such an important part of Irish sexual history,” said Ms Scott.

Ms Scott is a sex positive busisness person who owns and runs "Ireland's best sex shop" online, Sex Siopa (see-ah-pee) https://sexsiopa.ie/. Looking at the website it's obvious that she fights to break taboos and help her clients enjoy themselves in healthy fun ways. Ms. Scott theorizes that "Sometimes with Irish history, unless something is tied to the famine or 1916 it gets a little forgotten or re-prioritised.”



Scott kept on the trail of the ivory dildo and was surprised to hear that it back up for auction and she had a chance to get her hands on it. Unfortunately it was once again purchased buy a private collector and Scott was crestfallen. The dildo, which is at least 130 years old, and is believed to have been owned by a wealthy Anglo-Irish household, received more than 100 bids from nearly 40 different countries when it was auctioned in April 2017.

Last weekend, a customer emailed Ms Scott that the same item was up for auction again. This caused her to have what she calls an “Indiana Jones moment. I said to myself, that belongs in a museum.”

My big question now is why the dildo keeps getting resold? It seems like a game, these wealthy buyers just sitting on their ivory towers. Or maybe it is haunted? Too big? Smells funny?

Any way,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Get Off With A Little Help From Our Friends yes 1:04:47
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 248 - The One Where We Laugh In The Face Our Drunken Mortality! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-248/ Fri, 09 Aug 2019 13:00:23 +0000 https://waiting4wrath.com/?p=47772 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-248/#disqus_thread https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-248/feed/ 0 In This Week’s Show, episode 248, I’m hungover, Jenn’s got the Shlits, and Steve’s wife still hasn’t found him. Shea’s birthday parties are wild affairs… In This Week’s Show, episode 248, I’m hungover, Jenn’s got the Shlits, and Steve’s wife still hasn’t found him. Shea’s birthday parties are wild affairs…

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Shea’s Birthday hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if you glue a dead wasp to the back of your hand you can smack anyone as hard as possible and act like you saved them.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Died of dysentery, fording a river?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Dinosaur Death IPA from Big Lake Brewing

Donated By: Steve E

This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patron – Jeff Goldblum? Yes.

Crazy Deaths Through History

While researching people’s proof of the afterlife and delving into full on craziness (did you know Goop believes in psy powers) I realized I needed more time to pull all the parts together so prepare yourselves for that in the future. As a happy kismet I ran into quite a few people dying in incredibly strange and bizarre ways. So today I’m going to bring you through history and teach you of some strange, weird as shit deaths.

We’re gonna travel to ancient Greece to learn about the father of tragedy, Aeschylus. Way back, like 500 years before Jesus mucked around, Aeschylus was an incredibly popular playwright known for his dialog and conflict between actors. During his life it was prophesied that he would be killed by a falling object and many believe that because of that, Aeschylus made it a habit to stay out of doors. During a trip to Sicily in 458 BC he was struck on the head by a tortoise dropped by an eagle which had mistaken his bald head for a rock, as written by Valerius Maximus, a collector of historical information. Aeschylus’s work was so respected by the Athenians that after his death, his were the only tragedies allowed to be restaged in subsequent competitions.

You have probably heard of Draconian law, excessively harsh and severe punishments, but you may not know that they were originally laws created in Greece as the first constitution of Athens back around 620 BC. These laws were written by… you guessed it, Draco. Draco was the first recorded legislator of Athens in Ancient Greece. While visiting an Aeginetan theatre supporters of his, in a traditional ancient Greek show of approval,”threw so many hats and shirts and cloaks on his head that he suffocated, and was buried in that same theatre”. The truth about his death is still unclear, but I’d like to believe it’s true.

Empedocles, another Greek philosopher, also a statesman, poet, religious teacher, and physiologist. According to legend, Empedocles was a self-styled god he believed in the transmigration of souls, he declared that those who have sinned must wander for 30,000 seasons through many mortal bodies and be tossed from one of the four elements to another. Escape from such punishment requires purification, particularly abstention from the flesh of animals, whose souls may once have inhabited human bodies. To show his divinity and divine power he climbed up to the top of Mount Etna, an active volcano, and threw himself in. Miraculously living and being vwooped up to his heavenly throne… oh wait, no, he died. He was greatly morned, Aristotle reputedly hailed him as the inventor of rhetoric, and Galen regarded him as the founder of Italian medicine. Lucretius admired his hexametric poetry. Nothing remains of the various writings attributed to him other than 400 lines from his poem Peri physeōs (“On Nature”) and fewer than 100 verses from his poem Katharmoi (“Purifications”).

Let’s move forward in time a bit, it’s not just the Greeks that die in fun ways.

The little town of Braunau am Inn, Austria is most often remembered for what Steve? as the birthplace of Adolf Hitler. But for today we are going to focus on another of their notable residents, former Mayor Hans Steininger. Good ol Hans was the mayor way back in 1567, not much is known about him other than he was well liked and he had some very impressive facial hair. Hans had a four and a half foot long beard that hung like a tentacle from his face. Normally he would keep his beard rolled up and tucked in his pocket, he didn’t wanna trip on it, I mean it must have taken years to grow. Unfortunately one fateful day, Sept 28, 1567, a large fire broke out in town and in the commotion Hand’s beard slipped from his pocket, not worrying much he went to help his people escape and on the top of a flight of stairs he tripped on his great beard and fell down the stairs, breaking his neck. Upon his death, the city erected a monument to their fallen mayor on the side of St. Stephen’s Church, so that his legacy could never be forgotten. Then, because the beard must live on, the townspeople cut off Hans Steininger’s beautiful beard and locked it in a long glass case in the town’s museum, ensuring that all of the years he’d spent growing it were not in vain.

Thomas Urquhart in his own words revolutionised trigonometry, participated in a battle that started a war, traced his family history back to Adam and Eve and invented a Universal Language never dreamed of since the Tower of Babel. In real life he was a Scottish aristocrat, writer, and translator. He is best known for his translation of the works of French Renaissance writer François Rabelais to English. Always known as an eccentric he lived comfortably In a manner much like Baron munchausen I’d imagine. After hearing the news that Charles II had been returned to the throne died in a fit of laughter in 1660.

Franz Reichelt was an Austrian-born French tailor, inventor and parachuting pioneer, now sometimes referred to as the Flying Tailor. Not to be confused with the flying nun who was around much later. Reichelt had become fixated on developing a suit for aviators that would convert into a parachute and allow them to survive a fall should they be forced to leave their aircraft. Franz’s first experiments were conducted with dummies dropped from the fifth floor of his apartment building and been successful, but he was unable to replicate those early successes with any of his subsequent designs. Believing that a suitably high test platform would prove his invention’s effectiveness, Reichelt repeatedly petitioned the Parisian Police for permission to test from the Eiffel Tower. He finally received permission in 1912, but when he arrived at the tower on 4 February he made it clear that he intended to jump personally rather than conduct an experiment with dummies. Despite attempts to dissuade him, he jumped from the first platform of the tower wearing his invention. The parachute failed to deploy and he fell 187 freedom units to his death.

Bobby Leach was the ultimate daredevil. He was the second man to go over Niagara Falls in a metal barrel. He performed many other terrifying stunts such as swimming in whirlpool rapids. However his outrageous stunts would not keep him from the dangers of slipping. In 1926 while walking down the road, Bobby slipped on an orange peel. The fall caused him to injure his leg and caused it to become infected with gangrene, killing him shortly after.

2012 Wealthy businessman Uroko Onoja from Nigeria had what many might say the perfect death. Uroko was not only successful in business but also successful in love, with proof of six wives. Yeah, six. Unluckily for Uroko he was caught spending a bit more time with his youngest sixth wife. Uroko’s five other wives caught him having sex with her and decided they wanted some too, after threatening him with knives and sticks he managed to satiate 4 more of his wives before he stopped breathing as his sixth climbed into bed. No word on whether or not they were able to close the coffin.

In a true red dead redemption in 2017 a Russian welder stuffed a fire extinguisher down the barrel of a decommissioned artillery howitzer. He decided to put to use his training in the elemental powers of hot plasma, he then charged the cannon with calcium carbide and water, a reactive combination that produces acetylene welding gas… The abused fire extinguisher exploded from the howitzer cannon, and pieces of the payload brained the welder–whose head was conveniently located in the ballistic trajectory of the shrapnel. In a fight between shrapnel and an empty skull, shrapnel wins.

This year an un-named man illegally crept into a national park in South Africa with murder in mind, for there is money to be made from a rhino’s horn and therefore poachers hunt and kill these big, beautiful animals. Accomplice poachers told the victim’s family that he had been killed by an elephant. A search party struggled to find the body but eventually found a human skull and a pair of trousers, marks on the skull indicated his body had been eaten by lions. So this dumb ass poacher got wha was coming for him, trampled by elephants then eaten by lions, thats some biblical shit right there.

Next Week’s Beer

Shake Chocolate Porter from Boulder Brewing

Donated By: RW

Faith In Humanity Restored

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/professors-install-seesaws-across-us-mexico-border/

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In This Week’s Show, episode 248, I’m hungover, Jenn’s got the Shlits, and Steve’s wife still hasn’t found him. Shea’s birthday parties are wild affairs…
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Shea’s Birthday hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if you glue a dead wasp to the back of your hand you can smack anyone as hard as possible and act like you saved them.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Died of dysentery, fording a river?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Dinosaur Death IPA from Big Lake Brewing

Donated By: Steve E


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/33297/356354/
* BA Rating: 3.8
* Style: New England IPA
* ABV: 5.8%
* Aaron:
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patron - Jeff Goldblum? Yes.

Crazy Deaths Through History

While researching people's proof of the afterlife and delving into full on craziness (did you know Goop believes in psy powers) I realized I needed more time to pull all the parts together so prepare yourselves for that in the future. As a happy kismet I ran into quite a few people dying in incredibly strange and bizarre ways. So today I'm going to bring you through history and teach you of some strange, weird as shit deaths.

We're gonna travel to ancient Greece to learn about the father of tragedy, Aeschylus. Way back, like 500 years before Jesus mucked around, Aeschylus was an incredibly popular playwright known for his dialog and conflict between actors. During his life it was prophesied that he would be killed by a falling object and many believe that because of that, Aeschylus made it a habit to stay out of doors. During a trip to Sicily in 458 BC he was struck on the head by a tortoise dropped by an eagle which had mistaken his bald head for a rock, as written by Valerius Maximus, a collector of historical information. Aeschylus's work was so respected by the Athenians that after his death, his were the only tragedies allowed to be restaged in subsequent competitions.

You have probably heard of Draconian law, excessively harsh and severe punishments, but you may not know that they were originally laws created in Greece as the first constitution of Athens back around 620 BC. These laws were written by… you guessed it, Draco. Draco was the first recorded legislator of Athens in Ancient Greece. While visiting an Aeginetan theatre supporters of his, in a traditional ancient Greek show of approval,"threw so many hats and shirts and cloaks on his head that he suffocated, and was buried in that same theatre". The truth about his death is still unclear, but I'd like to believe it's true.

Empedocles, another Greek philosopher, also a statesman, poet, religious teacher, and physiologist. According to legend, Empedocles was a self-styled god he believed in the transmigration of souls, he declared that those who have sinned must wander for 30,000 seasons through many mortal bodies and be tossed from one of the four elements to another. Escape from such punishment requires purification, particularly abstention from the flesh of animals, whose souls may once have inhabited human bodies. To show his divinity and divine power he climbed up to the top of Mount Etna, an active volcano, and threw himself in. Miraculously living and being vwooped up to his heavenly throne… oh wait, no, he died. He was greatly morned, Aristotle reputedly hailed him as the inventor of rhetoric, and Galen regarded him as the founder of Italian medicine. Lucretius admired his hexametric poetry.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Laugh In The Face Our Drunken Mortality yes 1:02:09
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 247 - The One Where We Spread our DNA All Over Utah https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-247/ Fri, 02 Aug 2019 13:00:40 +0000 https://waiting4wrath.com/?p=47753 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-247/#disqus_thread https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-247/feed/ 0 In This Week’s Show, episode 247, we use science to study our ancestors on the internet, in Utah, and in Nazi Germany… Good news, the last ones are dead. In This Week’s Show, episode 247, we use science to study our ancestors on the internet, in Utah, and in Nazi Germany… Good news, the last ones are dead.

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Eru Ilúvatar hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if you boil a funny bone it becomes a laughing stock… I find that humerus.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that San Diego Zoo’s lovely Victoria, a southern white rhino, gave birth this past Sunday to a handsome little boy? (Well, he weighed about 125lbs so I guess ‘little’ is subjective.) He is the 186th rhino born at the Safari Park and the first southern white rhino born in North America from artificial insemination. Congrats, Victoria, and you don’t need no man!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Buffalo Gold Golden Ale from Boulder Beer – from RW

This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

VM from Carl

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zgz2xBrvVQ

This Week’s Stories

Archiving Nazi DNA.

Available now at http://patreon.com/w4w!

  • https://allthatsinteresting.com/rudolf-hess-doppelganger-theory

I’m going to go ahead and break rule #1 and start this story off with a dash of Nazi. Specifically, a 70-year-old conspiracy theory.

Rudolf Hess, for those who don’t know – not you Jenn or Steve – was a leading Nazi, Deputy Fuhrer, and an asshole. He was captured by the Allies in May of 1941 when his Messerschmitt Bf 110 crashed in Scotland en route to broker an unauthorized peace deal. The theory holds that sometime between his capture and the Nuremberg trials, Rudolf Hess was replaced by a doppelganger who stood trial for him and subsequently served his sentence.

W. Hugh Thomas, a doctor at Spandau, questioned if prisoner Spandau 7 was Hess as 7 refused to see his family and exhibited signs of amnesia. Subsequently the British government authorized investigation. Unfortunately, they had no means of truly verifying his identity so the conspiracy persisted. Spandau 7 was hung in 1987 at the age of 90.

It wasn’t until 8 years ago that we knew for sure. It turns out a pathologist at Spandau hermetically sealed a 1982 blood sample from Spandau 7. Considered unremarkable the sample was used as a teaching prop at Walter Reed Medical.

A US military doctor heard of the sample in passing and later, upon hearing of the conspiracy, put two and two together. Austrian molecular biologist, Jan Cemper-Kiesslich, extracted DNA from the sample and set out to find a living relative. The closest of whom had just died. “The family is very private,” said McCall. “The name is also rather common in Germany, so finding them was difficult.” Nonetheless, the team persisted and were able to track down a living male relative with whom they could compare blood samples and DNA.

The results presented an unwavering conclusion: there was a 99.9 percent likelihood that the Spandau 7’s blood sample and the sample of the living Hess relative were close biological matches.

And so, the mystery is closed. For their part the Hess family is understandably adamant in denying any further commentary or reaction to the results. “It is already a matter of public record that Hess’s wife, Ilse, did not believe the story,” said McCall.

Dead Nazi is dead.

However…

This story was originally meant to be a primer for another story on White Nationalists reacting to DNA tests, so… to be continued, same nazi time, same nazi channel…

Ugh, Nazis: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/devgru-p/mein-waifu-is-the-fuhrer-a-parody-visual-novel

A story of science and WEIRD PEOPLE… REE…ree….ree…oh wait. :(

  • https://www.pbs.org/mormons/etc/genealogy.html
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics_and_the_Book_of_Mormon
  • https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/23andme-is-terrifying-but-not-for-the-reasons-the-fda-thinks/
  • https://blogs.cdc.gov/genomics/2018/06/12/consumer-genetic-testing/
  • https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-25/the-mormon-church-s-quest-to-save-souls-helped-fuel-the-dna-testing-boom
  • https://www.rootstech.org/
  • https://www.sciencenews.org/article/consumer-genetic-testing-ancestry-dna
  • https://parabon-nanolabs.com/

This week I bring you a story about science, and how a particular religion is trying to make it weird. But at least they believe in the science. Sorta. Kinda. Basically only when it supports what they are looking for.

To start things off, we are obviously living in a time where DNA and genetic sleuthing is a huge business. Everything from discovering if you potentially carry something worrisome for a child to solving long-cold criminal cases, DNA’s a big ole news-and-maker. A $99 kit from 23andMe promises to breakdown your geographic and cultural background and potentially put you in touch with relatives you never knew you knew (que ‘Colors of the Wind’).

As a matter of fact, you may remember I mentioned a few months ago my MIL had only recently discovered her birth family through the 23andMe kit. She now knows who her birth mother was, has new siblings and countless new nieces, nephews & cousins. But she’s far from alone.

In fact, per a review published by MIT last February, by 2017 more than 12 million people had participated and it doesn’t look to have tapered off since then. The majority of users are here in the US, but it’s increasing in demand globally.

So yes, it’s a big business. And that shouldn’t be particularly surprising; people love to learn more about themselves, and how much deeper can you go than to the level of your own DNA?

Something I do find surprising is that we have one particular entity to thank for the major boom among the general public dipping their toes into genetic testing. (An aside: personal DNA tests have been available since the late 90s, but were very cost prohibitive for the average person.) So what is this entity? Why, it’s the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints! ←-Preferred nomenclature.

Now, once you think about it, it makes some sense for anyone just casually familiar with the organization. I myself only started looking into this when I heard about the strong connection between the ancestry DNA kits and the Mormon church, and while the idea wasn’t exactly shocking, boy was I surprised at the scope and influence.

For starters, before we get to the what’s, let’s discuss the why ‘s the Mormons would be so interested in tracing genealogy. Turns out they believe in a practice known as ‘baptism of the dead’, which is basically a baptism by proxy in the hopes of bringing a person who is deceased into the fold. For Mormons this is especially important because their doctrine teaches that those of the faith will be granted (literally) their own planets and the families can all be together, forever, celestially. (We don’t need to really get into how several generations ago this happy family planet includes the slaves that the, of course, ‘man of the family’ owned.) What this means is that they are so fanatically focused on the family is would make James Dobson uncomfortable. Unfortunately for their record of trusting in the scientific community, they don’t seem to take into account that the (very distinctive) DNA markers of the earliest Americans indicate that Native Americans descended from peoples who migrated here from the Altay mountains of Central Asia…sometime faaaaar back in antiquity. Per Wikipedia: “(The) evidences from a genetic perspective agree with a large body of archaeological, anthropological, and linguistic conclusions that Native American peoples’ ancestors migrated from Asia at the latest 16,500–13,000 years ago.” Sadly this is pretty much napalm for the beliefs of the adherents of Joseph Smith’s teachings, which, in case you forgot, centers on the belief that two groups of renegade Israelites settled the continent, and Jesus made some golden tablets to hide as the first Easter eggs in the forests of New York state to be discovered by whoever could pull the sword from the stone and thereby be crowned King of all Utah. Or something. Anyway, suffice to say their adherence to the power of DNA extends only so far.

Their collection of familial records started well before the discovery of DNA. In fact, one of the largest physical genealogical repositories exists thanks to the LDS church: The Granite Mountain Records Vault. It was started back in 1938 as a repository for the microfilm of previously researched genealogical records (which were pretty extensive for the LDSs; they had rigorously maintained records since the start of their cuuuul…ligion and their forced movement West…of course not due to their founder being an unscrupulous cad and charlatan, but because of religious persecution). Per the Granite Mountain information page on churchofjesuschrist.org: “Microfilming is the heart of this multi-million dollar genealogical operation. Microfilm photographers are filming records daily in locations the world over. Such documents as land grants, deeds, probate records, marriage records, cemetery records, parish registers, and other records known to be of genealogical value are being filmed. Over three-quarters of a million rolls of microfilm have been accumulated thus far, and several thousand new rolls are processed each month. The present collection of microfilmed records represents the equivalent of more than three million printed volumes of three hundred pages each.” By 1999 there were more than 640 million names.

Oh, and if you are concerned that a nuclear war may spell the end of this super-vault of knowledge: “The protection the Granite Mountain Records Vault affords cannot be equaled in an outdoor structure. There is nearly 300 feet of solid granite above the vault’s laboratory and office area and 700 feet above the six huge vault storage rooms. The storage area has three access tunnels faced with heavy bank vault doors in very strong encasements. The large door in the center tunnel weighs more than fourteen tons, and the narrower doors in the east and west tunnels weigh nine tons each.

And never let it be said that the Mormom church can’t be dragged kicking and screaming into the present. In May of 1999 they launched their first genealogical website, that’s now in about its 4 iteration: new.Familysearch, which launched worldwide in 2009.

In February 2014 FamilySearch announced a partnership with Ancestry.com, findmypast, and MyHeritage, which includes sharing massive amounts of their databases with those companies, andLDS members receiving free subscriptions with these companies. In May 2018 they added and digitized their 2 billionth record.

Now, they aren’t content with remaining faceless online or through a mailed in DNA kit. Nope! Beginning in 2011, they have also created and hosted the conference RootsTech (the first convention had 3,000 attendees; the one held in 2016 had over 25,000 from all 50 states and 30 countries). The 2019 Utah convention has already been held, but RootsTech will hold its first London convention this OctoberPer its website: “At RootsTech, we believe in the power of family—and discovering your family story has never been easier! RootsTech is a 4-day event held annually in Salt Lake City, Utah, dedicated to celebrating family and discovering family histories. With over 300 breakout sessions, an exciting lineup of celebrity speakers, and a gigantic expo hall, we’ve got something we’re sure you’ll love. Keynote speakers have included Laura Bush and one of the twins, LeVar Burton, The Property Brothers, Scott Hamilton and Buddy “Cake Boss” Valastro. So that’s a motley crew of mostly mediocrity.

Their penchant for obsessive genealogy and post-mortem and generations-removed baptisms is not without controversy, even extending past the fact it’s really weird. In the mid-1990s it was discovered that the names of about 380,000 Holocaust victims had been submitted for posthumous baptisms. Now, I’m no religious scholar, but since a majority of these victims were Jewish and they tend to follow Judaism, I can see why their less removed family members would have an issue with this. Per PBS.org: “In 1995, the church agreed to remove the names of all Holocaust victims and survivors from its archives and to stop baptizing Jews unless they were direct ancestors of a Mormon or unless they had the permission of all the person’s living relatives. However, Jewish names have periodically been discovered since the 1995 agreement, including that of Holocaust survivor and Jewish human rights activist Simon Wiesenthal, which was found and removed in 2006. Catholics and members of other faiths have also been upset at the practice.”

Finally, I do want to end this on a mostly positive note. The Mo-mo’s are oddballs but generally pretty nice folks, and their VERY dedicated work in genealogy and making DNA testing more accessible has had some far reaching and positive effects. Of course as I mentioned at the beginning with my ma’n’law, separated families now have a chance to reconnect, individuals who potentially carry genetic concerns can be tested, and, my personal favorite, solving criminal and missing persons cases.

Now, depending on what side of the privacy coin you fall on, this can be potentially good or bad.

Take for example a company known as Parabon Nanolabs. Their company intro: “Whether chemically engineering synthetic DNA for creating nano-pharmaceuticals or reverse engineering human DNA for biomarkers of medical or forensic significance, Parabon NanoLabs is developing some of the most compelling products of the DNA Age.”

They have been instrumental in cracking some very important cold cases. One way is by offering what they call a Snapshot, which uses genetic phenotypes to basically create an image of a person based on their genetic markers. This has been used to narrow down subjects substantially based on narrowing down the pool by appearance.

But the more famous (and controversial) tactic they use is called ‘kinship inference’ and their own work in genetic genealogy. Many affordable DNA kits come from companies that retain the information and Parabon sometimes has access to these files. (I know that’s sorta vague, but it’s frequently changing due to changes in privacy laws and such.) By taking the DNA of a subject or unidentified decedent, the lab can check against the possibility of a relative having previously used the service and can then hopefully follow the trail of genetic breadcrumbs to an identity.

One of the most famous recently solved cases is that of the Golden State Killer. Joseph James DeAngelo committed at least 13 murders, more than 50 rapes, and over 100 burglaries in California from 1974-1986, when he seemed to just vanish.

In June of 2016 it was announced he was arrested, thanks to an unnamed cousin who had submitted their DNA to one of the commercial site. DeAngelo was such a criminal piece of shit, he had not one, not two, but THREE crime-spree nicknames: the Visalia Ransacker, The East Area Rapist and the Original Nightstalker. Because he moved through various jurisdictions the crimes were never connected until DNA.

He’s now 73, at least he’s caught and the trial is going to be intense. (Oh, btw, he’s also a retired cop.)

So in conclusion, Mormons may not really understand the science behind DNA, but they’ve helped push genetics forward farther than they would have probably gotten on their own. So the next time a serial killer is off the streets, take a moment to stop and thank Joseph Smith.

Next Week’s Beer

Dinosaur Death IPA from Big Lake Brewing
Donated By: Steve E

Faith In Humanity Restored

  • https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49066718

Canadian conservationists are organizing an ambitious rescue operation to save thousands of Canadian salmon that have been trapped by a landslide on their way to spawn.

When it comes to reproduction, salmon have a particularly hard time. First, they migrate from the ocean into the rivers where they were born and swim upstream until they end up in the upper reaches. Then they deposit their eggs on gravel beds after which most salmon keel over dead.

It’s an arduous trek. For the salmon of Fraser River in British Columbia, it has been made even more difficult by a landslide that has blocked off most of the river.According to conservationists, only around 700 fish have been able to make it through the affected area, leading to concerns that it will put the local salmon population at risk. There are plenty of humans and animals that rely on the salmon as a major source of food.

Consequently, the government has mounted a rescue operation. The plan is to put the fish into large tanks and airlift them over the rocks. At the moment, crews are building a holding pond where the salmon can stay until they are ready to be airlifted. They are also tagging the fish for research purposes and removing some of the larger rocks to make it easier for the salmon to pass through on their own.

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In This Week’s Show, episode 247, we use science to study our ancestors on the internet, in Utah, and in Nazi Germany… Good news, the last ones are dead.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Eru Ilúvatar hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if you boil a funny bone it becomes a laughing stock… I find that humerus.



Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that San Diego Zoo’s lovely Victoria, a southern white rhino, gave birth this past Sunday to a handsome little boy? (Well, he weighed about 125lbs so I guess ‘little’ is subjective.) He is the 186th rhino born at the Safari Park and the first southern white rhino born in North America from artificial insemination. Congrats, Victoria, and you don’t need no man!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Buffalo Gold Golden Ale from Boulder Beer - from RW


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/130/5088/
* BA Rating: 4.8/5
* Style: American Blonde
* ABV: 4.8%
* Aaron: 9
* Jenn: 6
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 9


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

VM from Carl

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zgz2xBrvVQ

This Week’s Stories

Archiving Nazi DNA.

Available now at http://patreon.com/w4w!


* https://allthatsinteresting.com/rudolf-hess-doppelganger-theory


I’m going to go ahead and break rule #1 and start this story off with a dash of Nazi. Specifically, a 70-year-old conspiracy theory.

Rudolf Hess, for those who don’t know - not you Jenn or Steve - was a leading Nazi, Deputy Fuhrer, and an asshole. He was captured by the Allies in May of 1941 when his Messerschmitt Bf 110 crashed in Scotland en route to broker an unauthorized peace deal. The theory holds that sometime between his capture and the Nuremberg trials, Rudolf Hess was replaced by a doppelganger who stood trial for him and subsequently served his sentence.

W. Hugh Thomas, a doctor at Spandau, questioned if prisoner Spandau 7 was Hess as 7 refused to see his family and exhibited signs of amnesia. Subsequently the British government authorized investigation. Unfortunately, they had no means of truly verifying his identity so the conspiracy persisted. Spandau 7 was hung in 1987 at the age of 90.

It wasn’t until 8 years ago that we knew for sure. It turns out a pathologist at Spandau hermetically sealed a 1982 blood sample from Spandau 7. Considered unremarkable the sample was used as a teaching prop at Walter Reed Medical.

A US military doctor heard of the sample in passing and later, upon hearing of the conspiracy, put two and two together. Austrian molecular biologist, Jan Cemper-Kiesslich, extracted DNA from the sample and set out to find a living relative. The closest of whom had just died. “The family is very private,” said McCall. “The name is also rather common in Germany, so finding them was difficult.” Nonetheless, the team persisted and were able to track down a living male relative with whom they could compare blood samples and DNA.

The results presented an unwavering conclusion: there was a 99.9 percent likelihood that the Spandau 7’s blood sample and the sample of the living Hess relative were close biological matches.

And so, the mystery is closed. For their part the Hess family is understandably adamant in denying any further commentary or reaction to the results.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Spread our DNA All Over Utah yes 1:02:34
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 246 - The One Where We Run Down The Highwayman... with Jenn and Juice! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-246/ Fri, 26 Jul 2019 13:00:02 +0000 https://waiting4wrath.com/?p=47647 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-246/#disqus_thread https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-246/feed/ 0 In This Week’s Show, episode 246, we juice the Angel of Celery to stave off viral spillover with whatever horrible yeti disease kept Shea from being here today. In This Week’s Show, episode 246, we juice the Angel of Celery to stave off viral spillover with whatever horrible yeti disease kept Shea from being here today.

I think it’s called Familious klingienous

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ko’Lok (the cannibal winged giant of the Miwok people, not on Endor) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

MIA

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know the electric chair was invented by a dentist (Alfred Southwick)? It’s actually only an electric chair bc that was what he was used to working with.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Highwayman – Roadhouse Brewing Co

This Week’s Show

Thanks to listener Steve W. for the very good point as to why doctors didn’t use axes to chop off limbs for amputations. In episode 244 we discussed Dr. Lister and how he made surgery not an auto-death sentence and Aaron was curious as to why not use an axe. Turns out, that tends to shatter bones which will definitely help a surgery be less successful.

This Week’s Story

Jenn’s Story is available now at http://patreon.com/w4w for a buck! Head over to get a special patron only story every week, as well as 4 More Beers, our sister show (that one’s free and we’ll totally be making one soon!) Patrons this week will also get an extended (like 10+ min) of my medical story!

Fake Reality TV & Unhealthy Medicine

  • https://www.medpagetoday.com/publichealthpolicy/ethics/76358
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burzynski_Clinic
  • https://www.khou.com/article/entertainment/television/programs/great-day-houston/an-upcoming-reality-series-will-highlight-cancer-patients-recovery-stories/285-602900318

Another entry into the annals of quack doctors making lots of money off of desperate people, today I’m talking about the Burzynski Clinic. Located in Houston, TX, the clinic was founded by chubby, weird, dangerous Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski.

The clinic was founded in 1976 and has been the subject of much (entirely warranted) controversy since the beginning. But I’ll get into the details during and after we hear from a commercial advertising the purported upcoming docu-series ‘My Cancer Free Life’

  • https://www.khou.com/article/entertainment/television/programs/great-day-houston/an-upcoming-reality-series-will-highlight-cancer-patients-recovery-stories/285-602900318

I have a few tidbits to point out during the segment we watch:

At 00:30 – Antineoplastons: what are they? How do they work? Turns out it’s/they’re a term coined by Burzynski himself and really don’t seem to do anything at all. It’s sort of a ‘catch all’ for (per his Wiki article) “a group of urine-derived peptides, peptide derivatives, and mixtures that Burzynski named to use in his “cancer treatment”. There is no accepted scientific evidence of benefit from antineoplaston combinations for various diseases.” Yes, his entire approach to immunotherapy cancer treatment involves urine particulates.

Good

  • https://integrityfuneral.com/book-of-memories/3677519/kruse-douglas/view-condolences.php

Medical Medium

  • https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/kzd7km/benefits-of-celery-juice
  • https://www.inverse.com/article/40096-medical-medium-anthony-william
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epstein–Barr_virus
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_William
  • https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-medical-mediums-thyroid-pseudoscience/
  • https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-antithesis-of-science-based-medicine-the-medical-mediums-fantasy-based-health-advice/

Today we’re going to talk about Anthony W. Coviello. He’s a slick looking fellow with four best sellers, millions of fans, a “medical” company in Sarasota Florida, and a listing as a “trusted expert” on the GOOP!

He’s a Slenderman whose unblinking gaze redefines creepy in a category whose namesake doesn’t have a face. Sporting a slicked back pony tail, short wire frame glasses, and a salt’n’pepper short boxed beard, Anthony is a man who looks as if someone asked Steve Jobs to dress the late-30’s, new-age, physiologist-gone-Bond villain of your nightmares.

Speaking of Apples, Anthony adds,

“Apples teach us not to get burned by the frost of insensitivity from others.”

Deep.

With a few more tattoos he’d be a dead ringer for Far Cry 5’s Father… complete with the ability to channel the Spirit!

You’re probably heard of the “Medical Medium,” Anthony William — because he prefers the “W” bit to Coviello I guess. He’s a celebrity among woo-celebrities.

Anti-vaxer Robert De Niro, Naomi Campbell, And James Van Der Beek (of Dawnson’s Creek in case you were wondering – and that’s not just from me, he’s the only one the article felt the need to identify… whomp whomp), and of course, GOOP-slinger Gwyneth Paltrow, are all clients and believers in his “God-given skills.”

Before we go any further, no Anthony doesn’t have a medical degree.

What he does have is so much better. He has an imaginary friend called “Spirit” who he met when he was four. And through Spirit he’s able to divine ailments and cure things from irritable bowel syndrome to thyroid cancer. He says he can see into the body like a supercharged MRI scan to diagnose “all blockages, infections, trouble areas, past problems, and even soul fractures.”

Additionally, God gives him knowledge that is apparently decades ahead of medical science’s cheap parlor ticks! With that in mind, here’s what William says about his own abilities:

Anthony William was born with the unique ability to converse with a high-level spirit who provides him with extraordinarily accurate health information that’s often far ahead of its time. Since age four, when he shocked his family by announcing that his symptom-free grandmother had lung cancer (which medical testing soon confirmed), Anthony has been using his gift to “read” people’s conditions and tell them how to recover their health. His unprecedented accuracy and success rate as the Medical Medium have earned him the trust and love of thousands worldwide, among them movie stars, rock stars, billionaires, professional athletes, best-selling authors, and countless other people from all walks of life who couldn’t find a way to heal until he provided them with insights from Spirit. Anthony has also become an invaluable resource to doctors who need help solving their most difficult cases, and has recently released his NY Times Best Seller “Medical Medium.”

Jennifer Gunter, an OB/GYN from San Francisco who has criticized GOOP in the past, made the following statement regarding Anthony William:

Promoting the Medical Medium is no different than promoting anti-vaccine views or cleanses or coffee enemas. The minimum is that people waste money, but there is great potential for harm with many of the therapies that are recommended and delays in diagnosis.

So how do we get advice from Spirit? Over the phone, for the low price of $300-500 for a 30-minute call.

See, Anthony has the ability to tell you what’s wrong with you or, for example, your disabled child. Which, as an aside, is why he doesn’t fly – being stuck in a metal tube with so many people his spidy-like diagnostic sense can’t stop twitching… Anyway, in 2013 Kate Gallagher Leong called AW. Her son Gavin suffered from a series of congenital issues. Desperate, she wrote a single post on her blog describing her son’s conditions and begging for help. And because the internet is a terrible place a person – or perhaps one of the fans AW bribes/automatons he employs told her to call him. 30 minutes, $300, and no magical healing later Anthony simply said that Gavin had contracted Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) in utero and suggested a rigorous vitamin regime, including liquid B12, Zinc, and a kind of charcoal “detoxifier.” Forty-eight days later Gavin was dead.

The cause of death was unspecified medical complications of a seizure.

His mom, of course, blamed herself for giving Gavin EBV, “all I could think was, ‘Oh my god, I did this to him,’” she said. “This was me.”

EBV, Human gammaherpesvirus 4, is one of eight common types of herpes.

Commonly called infectious mononucleosis, “mono,” or the kissing disease. About 90% of adults in America show some indication of past infection. Infants can become susceptible to EBV as soon as material antibody protection disappears. Yeah, antibodies, not contagions. Anthony. You dick.

Still though, William writes in that column,

“Ninety-eight percent of the time, cancer is caused by a virus and at least one type of toxin,”

Of course, not elaborating on what qualifies as a “toxin” he continues,

“There are many viruses that can be involved with cancer; the Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) is one of them…EBV is also responsible for breast cancer, liver cancer, almost all lung cancer, pancreatic cancer, colon cancer, prostate cancer, women’s reproductive cancers, leukemia, and many more.”

While EBV is incredibly common, according to the Centers for Disease Control, there’s essentially no peer-reviewed evidence to confidently state it causes cancer, as William does. According to the American Cancer Society (ACS), at most, it could be linked to Hodgkin’s lymphoma and “some cases of stomach cancer.” This is ambiguous territory, even for oncologists, never-mind medical “mediums,” since EBV spreads primarily via saliva — not in utero.

Since we now know that EBV causes cancer because of spirits, what can we do to protect ourselves… I mean, other than not calling him.

Well, there are the holy 4!

His Holy 4 are fruits, vegetables, herbs and spices, and wild foods. They are:

The sacred assistance granted to us to make it through life here. These are the answers for humanity. These are what will save us.

Because they grow from the earth and are showered by the sun and sky, enduring out in the elements day after day as they form, they are intimately connected to the holy forces of nature. They don’t just contain the building-block nutrients we need to function. They contain intelligence from the Earthly Mother and the heavens that we desperately need about how to adapt.

  • An introduction with unsubstantiated health claims supposedly based on current scientific knowledge (i.e., “Cat’s claw can aid in alleviating almost any symptom, from neurological to digestive.”)
  • A list of conditions that would benefit from bringing the food into your life (for cat’s claw: every type of cancer, Lyme disease, ALS, laryngitis, strep throat, MS, viruses that “are undiscovered,” and many, many more).
  • A list of symptoms that are reasons to bring the food into your life. (For cat’s claw: 36 symptoms ranging from ringing in the ears to Bell’s palsy, from rashes to slurred speech.)
  • Emotional support provided by the food. (Cat’s claw reduces a sense of urgency so you can take time to think rather than automatically reacting to a situation.)
  • Spiritual lesson taught by the food (For instance, “sometimes what we think we seek is within reach.”)
  • Tips on how to use the food (Keep kiwis in a bowl on your nightstand; sleeping beside them will connect them with your being for the greatest life-changing effects. When eating a fig, imagine the fig tree it came from standing in front of you, to amplify its healing, grounding power.)
  • And to top it all off, he offers a recipe featuring each food.

But of course, there’s a flip side:

Radiation, toxic heavy metals, the viral explosion, and DDT are the major culprits. They “ravage our bodies, make us question our own sanity, and push us to the breaking point as a society.”

Luckily we can avoid all of these by not eating dairy, which fucks your liver; Eggs, because they cause viral explosions; Corn no longer has nutrients because of genetic engineering; and “natural flavors” are really MSG which of course destroys your brain…

Though he gets partial points for that last bit, because MSG is a natural flavor found in tomatoes and other Umami rich foods.

He says there are two kinds of living water. Hydrobioactive water is inside all the Holy Four foods. It holds life-giving nutrients and hydrates better than any drink of plain water can. Then there’s the undiscovered cofactor water that contains information to help restore your soul and spirit and to support your emotions.

As for evidence, he offers “Life-Changing Angels.” There are twelve angels, and he knows their names, like the Angel of Abundance and the Angel of Addiction. He instructs his readers to call on the appropriate angel out loud, by name. For instance, “Angel of Provision, please help me.”

There’s also the angels of detoxification, homeopathy, and vitalism… I guess, I didn’t read his book but these are things he recommends.

Cures

Speaking of cures, let’s dive into one of his more common claims. Cucumber water!

Good news, of the crazy shit you can juice, cucumbers are 95% water, so at least you’re getting your money’s worth eh.

According to Anthony,

Cucumbers are highly alkalizing and hydrating food that are rich in nutrients such as vitamins A, C, K, magnesium, silicon, and potassium.

I’m going to paraphrase the rest of his crazy shit:

  • The chlorophyll and lignin in cucumber skin prevent cancer, especially estrogen-caused cancer
  • Adds hydration directly to the colon so it’s good if his other recommendations stop you up
  • They’re good for detoxing, reducing redness around the eyes, and autoimmune/neurological disorders
  • It’s a “beautifying” food
  • Cures ulcers
  • Brings down fevers in children Basically, it’s the tits.

Cucumbers are basically vitamin free, except K, which helps blood clotting. So there’s that.

He claims they contain Erepsin, a long-depreciated and inaccurate term for intestinal enzymes. They don’t. That’s nuts. And they definitely don’t destroy parasites.

About the various fiber related claims. A cucumber has about 1g of fiber, or a 1/5th of a slice of wheat bread.

It also treats depression, chronic fatigue syndrome, and thyroid diseases – which require a real doctor for sure.

He also recommends you juice celery.

So many have followed this that #Celeryjuicechallenge is trending – because what trends on twitter is now apparently a measurement of popularity and international diplomacy.

He recommends this for all the same, vitamin, detox, and pH reasons.

“There is no evidence that drinking celery juice, or any juice, has any detoxing or cleansing benefits,” says Lindsay Krasna, a registered dietitian in Brooklyn, New York. “Our kidneys and liver are the vital organs responsible for purifying our blood and ridding our bodies of harmful toxins. They do that beautifully whether we’re consuming celery juice or eating a burger.”

Next Week’s Beer

Buffalo Gold Golden Ale from Boulder Beer – from RW

Faith In Humanity Restored

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/woman-who-cant-walk-teams-up-with-blind-man-for-hiking/

Some matches just seem meant to be. Tonight’s faith in humanity story is one of those. Two Ft. Collin’s residents each dealing with their own physical limitations came together to make both of their wishes come true in the form of their love of hiking.

The issue, you see is that Melanie Knecht was born with spina bifida and uses a wheelchair to get around, whereas her friend, Trevor Hahn, is blind after contracting glaucoma five years ago.

They met at an adaptive boxing class and again in an adaptive rock-climbing class and bonded over their shared love of the outdoors. What makes this relationship work though, is that they are each using their talents to help the other to make the most of their situations.

Hahn was able to climb a Himalayan peak using poles and spoken directions, and Knecht had been carried by someone while visiting Easter Island. Now, Hahn carries Knecht on his back to hike and Knecht provides the spoken directions for the hike. They started with small hikes, but now they’re preparing to hike a 14’er (that’s a 14,000 ft peak for you flat landers) next month.

You can follow them via their instagram account called hiking with sight, link in the notes of course.

https://www.instagram.com/hiking_with_sight/

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In This Week’s Show, episode 246, we juice the Angel of Celery to stave off viral spillover with whatever horrible yeti disease kept Shea from being here today.
I think it’s called Familious klingienous...

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ko’Lok (the cannibal winged giant of the Miwok people, not on Endor) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

MIA

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know the electric chair was invented by a dentist (Alfred Southwick)? It’s actually only an electric chair bc that was what he was used to working with.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Highwayman - Roadhouse Brewing Co


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/30261/397884/
* BA Rating: 4.47/5
* Style: Crushable Pilsner
* ABV: 4%
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 7
* Steve: 9


This Week’s Show

Thanks to listener Steve W. for the very good point as to why doctors didn’t use axes to chop off limbs for amputations. In episode 244 we discussed Dr. Lister and how he made surgery not an auto-death sentence and Aaron was curious as to why not use an axe. Turns out, that tends to shatter bones which will definitely help a surgery be less successful.

This Week’s Story

Jenn's Story is available now at http://patreon.com/w4w for a buck! Head over to get a special patron only story every week, as well as 4 More Beers, our sister show (that one's free and we'll totally be making one soon!) Patrons this week will also get an extended (like 10+ min) of my medical story!

Fake Reality TV & Unhealthy Medicine


* https://www.medpagetoday.com/publichealthpolicy/ethics/76358
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burzynski_Clinic
* https://www.khou.com/article/entertainment/television/programs/great-day-houston/an-upcoming-reality-series-will-highlight-cancer-patients-recovery-stories/285-602900318


Another entry into the annals of quack doctors making lots of money off of desperate people, today I’m talking about the Burzynski Clinic. Located in Houston, TX, the clinic was founded by chubby, weird, dangerous Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski.

The clinic was founded in 1976 and has been the subject of much (entirely warranted) controversy since the beginning. But I’ll get into the details during and after we hear from a commercial advertising the purported upcoming docu-series ‘My Cancer Free Life’


* https://www.khou.com/article/entertainment/television/programs/great-day-houston/an-upcoming-reality-series-will-highlight-cancer-patients-recovery-stories/285-602900318


I have a few tidbits to point out during the segment we watch:

At 00:30 - Antineoplastons: what are they? How do they work? Turns out it’s/they’re a term coined by Burzynski himself and really don’t seem to do anything at all. It’s sort of a ‘catch all’ for (per his Wiki article) “a group of urine-derived peptides, peptide derivatives, and mixtures that Burzynski named to use in his "cancer treatment". There is no accepted scientific evidence of benefit from antineoplaston combinations for various diseases.” Yes, his entire approach to immunotherapy cancer treatment involves urine particulates.

Good


* https://integrityfuneral.com/book-of-memories/3677519/kruse-douglas/view-condolences.php


Medical Medium


* https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/kzd7km/benefits-of-celery-juice
* https://www.inverse.]]>
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In This Week’s Show, episode 245, it’s Steve, Shea and I because Jenn went Bang, Zoom, right to the moon!

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Mars (Patrons will get that), Roman God of War,  hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

I’m worried that people are forgetting what prime day is really about, and who died to make it possible. So let’s have a moment of silence for the great Optimus.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

It wasn’t intense enough for Jenn in Laramie so she went camping to be “in tents.”

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Fire Ant Funeral | Texas Ale Project Dallas, TX

  • BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/37947/149299/
  • BA Rating: 3.69/5
  • Style: American Amber / Red Ale
  • ABV: 6%
  • Aaron: 6
  • Shea: 6
  • Steve: 6
  • This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New patron The Custodial Humanist.
I love the name, but I have a question? Is it custodial as in providing protection or as in incarceration?

Awesomely funny show.

Waiting 4 Wrath is why I am seen laughing hysterically while driving home on Fridays to reach that all important post work beer. If you don’t listen to this podcast you are a poopy head.

5 Stars, Colin from Canada

Many thanks to our favorite farmer for the fab photo of the red heifers because of course there are red heifers.

This Week’s Stories

Did we or didn’t we?

As I hope our esteemed listeners are fully aware, Saturday July 20 is the 50th anniversary of the first human invaders to another celestial body (that we’re aware of, Stargate-type possibilities notwithstanding). As you probably also know; I’m the oldest one on this podcast and I was but 7 months old at the time, so I don’t remember it, though my mother tells me I was crawling around the room at 3:17 pm when they were watching it on TV. It had launched a few days earlier on July 16, traversed approximately 240,000 miles of fucking nothing, and landed safely on the moon. Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin spent approximately 21.5 hours on the surface, of which about 2.5 hours was outside of the lunar module “Eagle” and walking around doing stuff. They then, along with command pilot Michael Collins made the trip back home and landed in the middle of nowhere south pacific ocean about halfway between Hawaii and the Marshall Islands.

It only took me a couple of minutes to recount the very basics of the event, but it represented the culmination of nearly 10 years of intensive engineering work and training by over 420,000 people working for the US government and over 20,000 companies, spending billions of dollars and millions of man-hours to answer President Kennedy’s May 1961 call to congress of, “…landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth.” And at Rice University in September 1962 the famous words,

“We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.” It must have been an amazing time to have a president who could form a coherent thought and sentence.

President Kennedy, Rice University in September 1962

This is very simply the stuff of legend. But it isn’t legend, it’s history. It’s our history. No matter what we may think of that time in our past, the Cold War, the Vietnam conflict, the fight for equality for all races and creeds; we should take a moment and recognize that it was a singular time of history when humans did what many, many didn’t think was possible. I was completely enthralled by everything about this when I was a kid and not yet the jaded old fuck I’ve become. I remember when I was 10 years old, watching the 10th anniversary events on television (on a 14” black and white set with rabbit-ear antenna) and being amazed by the wonder of it all. I was a geeky guy even then, and I couldn’t get enough of it. Just a few years later, I got myself up at an ungodly hour to watch the first space shuttle launch and that feeling was there again. In fact, I watched the first several shuttle launches with the same awe as the first. I didn’t have a lot of friends since we moved every summer of my childhood, but I had this and I couldn’t get enough.

Well, now I’m old and we’ve had people in space for various reasons for years and most of the inspiration from it has faded from the public’s perception. We’ve gone so far now that there is amazingly a non-zero proportion of the world’s population who don’t believe it even happened at all. This is astounding to me. Then again, we have a stupidly large contingent of idiots who are actively trying to keep people from getting inoculations against common disease and believe that plain water contains the essence of healing. We live in a world of fucking idiocy, where the dumbest among us believe that their uneducated, ill-informed, bigoted, ideas are worthy of a loud speaker and an audience. Hell, I’m here ranting into a microphone to you. Apparently, I’m no better? I don’t think that’s the case.

I’m a skeptic of stupid and not a believer of pseudo-science like so many who bandy the term skeptic about like they understand what it really means. I believe in science, research, and desire to better understand our world through learning. Skepticism is not simply saying “I don’t believe that” because it doesn’t feel right, or because it is against the teaching of your ancient superstitions, it is obtaining knowledge via systematic doubt and continual testing. What these idiots are actually participating in is called denialism, or as the wiki page says, “a person’s choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth. It is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable reality.”

We should be better than that. As a people, as a society, and as functioning members of the fauna of planet earth we need to continue to look to what we don’t know with wonder. We need to look to those who do know more about our world than we, and be humble, and be glad that they are endeavoring to expanding human knowledge beyond what our bronze age ancestors believed. It’s only been 50 years and there is so much more to learn.

Now with my little rant done, let’s spend a few minutes on some of the arguments made by people who don’t believe 12 humans walked on the moon.

Have you heard that the moon landing was filmed on a soundstage?

  • The Saturn V rocket did indeed launch from Kennedy, but rather than going to the moon, it just orbited the earth for eight days then splashed down.
  • Stanley Kubrick spent his time faking the whole moon part of the mission using the same type of movie trickery he had recently used for 2001 A Space Oddyssey.
  • Apollo 15 astronaut David Scott dropped hammer and feather which landed at same time
    no parallax, no change of background’s positions or sizes show that it couldn’t have been on stage
  • A 2002 mockumentary called “Dark Side of the Moon” makes fun of conspiracy theories regarding the moon landing but is taken at face value by many dum dums
  • 2015 movie Moonwalkers is about the CIA hiring Stanley Kubrick to fake the moonwalk

Space is too damn dangerous? Environmental issues

  • Humans can not survive because of the high radiation from the Van Allen radiation belt.
    A zone of energetic charged particles, most of which originate from the solar wind, that are captured by and held around a planet by that planet’s magnetic field. two belts, 400-36K miles.
  • Easily traversed within an hour and a half with no radiation issues. Astronauts got about the same dose of radiation for the whole trip as a nuclear energy worker gets in a year
    we couldn’t have photos of the trip due to radiation fogging the film.
  • Film kept in metal containers so damn hot on the moon that it would have melted the film in the camera
  • No atmosphere to hold the heat to the moon’s surface.
  • Flag fluttered even though there would be no wind on the moon it didn’t flutter, it settled while being moved into position and in a vacuum it took longer to settle than it would have in a windless atmosphere
  • The footprints couldn’t be so perfectly preserved moon dust is jagged, since it’s not weathered, so it holds its shape better that dust on earth

Picking apart the photos

  • So damn hot on the moon that it would have melted the film in the camera
    no atmosphere to hold the heat to the moon’s surface
  • Flag fluttered even though there would be no wind on the moon it didn’t flutter, it settled while being moved into position and in a vacuum it took longer to settle than it would have in a windless atmosphere
  • The footprints couldn’t be so perfectly preserved moon dust is jagged, since it’s not weathered, so it holds its shape better that dust on earth
  • The photo quality is too good the Apollo astronauts used 70mm Hasselblad 500 EL cameras with Carl Zeiss optics. Of fucking course they were good. They weren’t taking photos of their kids at the damn beach
  • The crosshairs are in the wrong place or appear behind the subjects
  • Camera fitted with clear glass plate with crosshairs on it. Impossible for photos to not have the crosshairs effect only appears in copied or scanned versions of the photos, not on the originals high brightness/contrasty areas wash out parts of the crosshairs which are only .1mm thick.
  • Originals cropped , rotated, and/or ‘shopped
  • No stars of space appear in the photos. No fucking duh. It was day on the moon and that huge spotlight called the sun was blasting everything with tons of light. Do you see stars out at noon?
  • Camera settings black out backgrounds in order to properly expose bright foreground objects. Again. Duh.
  • There are hot spots in some of the photos that looks like a big spotlight was used
  • Lots and lots of reflected light in photos from pits on the moon’s surface, light reflecting off spacesuit, etc
  • Don’t forget image manipulation. The original photos are much flatter than some of the more popular images we’re familiar with.

Where’s all of the original data? Coverup?

  • The data was saved such that the video and telemetry was recorded together on Apollo 11 rather than separately on the subsequent missions
  • Apollo 11 used a slow scan TV camera (only recorded 10 frames a second) so the original footage had to be converted to be shown on normal televisions. converted copies kept, the clearer original tapes were lost.
  • Most of the original Apollo 11 tapes sent to US National Archives in 1970, but returned to Goddard Space Flight Center by 1984 and apparently accidentally erased and reused (45 tapes, 15 from each of three tracking stations)
  • Much of the data from later missions is still intact
  • Where are the blueprints of the original landing module
  • Grumman simply lost them. Shit happens and people are fallible
  • Now we could easily spend another half hour going over tons of the actual evidence that we’ve been to the moon, but it seems to me that trying to convince those who are willfully and obnoxiously trying to avoid truth is a fool’s errand anyway and you fine listeners are not among them.

Patrons Are From Pluto

Mars, what is it good for?
Absolutely nothing. Yeah, I’ll say it again…

In keeping with today’s space-based bullshit theme I present to you, a handful of insane person stories about the red planet that, apparently, far too few people know anything about.

You could say it’s the … red headed step child of the solar system! Ha. ha. Take that.

First up. Mars is home to the solar system’s largest mountain, Olympus Mons. Although, I feel like that’s a bold claim given how little know about the surface topography of some of the larger gas giants. But whatever.

Fun fact. Olympus Mons is actually a volcano measuring 22km tall, or two Everests, and has a base roughly the size and shape of France.

Located in Mars’s wester hemisphere just off the northwestern edge of the Tharsis bulge, Mons is the last factual thing we’ll be talking about.

Unburdened by truthiness, let’s move on to measuring Mars itself. Mars is the size of one Earth Moon.

Mars is the same size as the Moon.

Mars Spectacular, 2003

This “hoax” (because it’s really just a stupid mistake) appeared in August of 2003 when, earnestly trying to entice readers toward scientific curiosity, the email “Mars Spectacular” said that at 75x “Mars will look as large as the full moon to the naked eye.” Unfortunately, most people are illiterate and glossed over the “et 75-time magnification” bit and to this day insist they’re the same size and NASA is lying to you for the grays who hold dominion there.

There’s a face on Mars

And it watches you jerk-off.

One of those times Nasa wasn’t a cover for trans-dimensional, mono-atomic gold devouring, lizard overlords is that time in 1971 when Viking 1 sent proof of Martian life in the form of a readily identifiable face. Thanks to visionaries likes of entirely untrained, not-astronomer Richard Hoagland, myths, theories, and worshippers of “the Face on Mars” persists to this day.

1971 Face on Mars

Because people are credulous animals and it’s easier to accept a Martian rock-faced deity than explain Pareidolia NASA and the European Space Agency spent a fucking ton of time and money looking at the area.

Images from 1998 NASA Mars Global Surveyor took significantly more detailed images of the face proving it to be a shadowy mountain and themselves fifty liars in the pockets of Big Mono-atomic Gold.

1998 Mars Global Surveyor Image

Xeno-crypti-odology

Because I’m smart.

Since finding Yeti’s on Earth clearly isn’t that hard and the History channel doesn’t even pretend anymore I’ve decided to pitch “Extraterrestrial Cryptid Hunters” for this the 2020 fall lineup. Thanks to the Mars Exploration Rover Spirit’s 2007 picture of a Martian BigFoot we know there be monsters in the Martian desert.

2007 Spirit pic of a lady

The circled, fossilized-turd-esque remains of the girl from The Rung can clearly be seen doing the Thriller dance all zombie style. Unfortunately, for people who know how to use Spirit’s measurement tools the thrill is fleeting as the woman is easily confirmed to a wisp of dust mere meters from the camera…

I mean, I say “fleeting” but it was actually millions of dollars, thousands of man hours, and a nearly incomprehensible level of technical prowess involved in rechecking it.

Life on Mars is just buried…

Under Mars’s thick, dusty, exterior clearly lies a thriving society of Green Martians, Einherjar, and of course, hot, hot three-boobed ladies. As proof we have that other time NASA wasn’t playing to the whims of Satanic Luciferian overlords and was for-real totally trustworthy, 2012. Curiosity returned data from a Martian sample analysis that was, according to a quote from John Grotzinger aired on NPR “destined for the history books.”

Once decrypted this message could only mean that Curiosity had found organic life and therefore baby Jesus wasn’t real ya’ll. The news was… viral.

Ever the show to put a smile on baby Jesus’s face, it should be clarified that Curiosity’s Sample Analysis at Mars instrument found simple chlorinated organics – or chemicals containing carbon and at least one chlorine atom. Which is mundane, possibly from Earth, and not at all what gets you likes. So best to focus on the single word “Organics” and sell t-shirts.

The 2012 Rat of Mars

Since when is importing invasive species to deal with spiders new, eh Australia?

Just like Cap Canaveral, Mars is crawling with damned, dirty, rats. Curiosity, never-ending source of hope and inspiration for dull-witted conspiracy theorists that it is, has again pulled back the view of interstellar lies to give us… a dead prairie dog.

The 2012 Rat of Mars

Thanks to notable non-scientist knower of true things Scott Waring of UFO Sightings Daily, we know it’s a Martian rat “[noting] its lighter-color, upper and lower eyelids, its nose and cheek areas, its ear, its front leg and stomach.” All things no rock has.

Fortunately, we know the truth. That is clearly Martious Cynomoys gennisonoi – we Wyomingites know our prairie dogs and that one was clearly stolen by illegal aliens. Krolotean kleptus to be specific. Those green bastards are basically synonymous with theft…

For their part NASA vehemently stands by their cover story of “it’s a rock” because, as Waring elucidates, “the squirrel would be expected to die eventually and that would get PETA to fight against them in a court of law.” A battle NASA deeply fears given PETAs solid two point advantage in the blood-soaked and Scientifically-immutable underworld of Trial by Scrabble. Where only the strongest Academic acronyms dare publish… or PERISH!(6 to 4 btw)

Next Week’s Beer

Highwayman – Roadhouse Brewing Co

  • BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/30261/397884/
  • BA Rating: 4.47/5
  • Style: Crushable Pilsner
  • ABV: 4%

Faith In Humanity Restored

Today’s faith is more of a faith remembered. Thanks to Jordan Dafnis of WHNT19 for a look back at NASAs impact on the Civil Rights Movement.

When NASA moved to Huntsville, Alabama in the early 1960s it was against the backdrop of the civil rights movement. Sit-ins were commonplace as African Americans fought for desegregation in the city. When Edna Dailey was 15 abuses at sit ins were a daily occurrence but once NASA began its push to bring businesses into the area “All of a sudden it was just ok, we can go into all of these places now,” says Dailey.

“The economic foundation of Huntsville became the aerospace industry and they understood that the only thing that could threaten that would be a problem in terms of race relations,” said Brian Odom, a NASA historian.

Thanks to NASAs push Huntsville was well ahead of the curve, desegregating public accommodation in 1962, a year before the rest of the state. Sonny Morea, an Apollo Project veteran, says “It became a very progressive city, as opposed to being a typical city of the South at the time.”

Of course life was still a challenge for non-whites in the area, Dailey recalls her sister being arrested often, “my sister got put in jail like three times a day.”

Likewise, the backwards ass narrative of the place was confusing for some imports. When they first arrived Sonny had to explain the use of white vs. coloured drinking fountains when she would use the nearest, often “coloured” fountain “I said ‘No, no you can’t drink there.’ Try explaining that to a child.”

Now, 50 years later, we can look back at the contributions of the rocket engineers who moved to Huntsville, intentional or otherwise. “Basically, I feel like Huntsville is a good place to be, I wouldn’t live anywhere else,” said Dailey.

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In This Week’s Show, episode 245, it’s Steve, Shea and I because Jenn went Bang, Zoom, right to the moon! Episode 145 - The One Where We Find Out We're Full Of Stars - Standard



In This Week’s Show, episode 245, it’s Steve, Shea and I because Jenn went Bang, Zoom, right to the moon!



Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Mars (Patrons will get that), Roman God of War,  hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!



Shea’s Life Lesson



I'm worried that people are forgetting what prime day is really about, and who died to make it possible. So let's have a moment of silence for the great Optimus.



Jenn’s Actual Lesson



It wasn't intense enough for Jenn in Laramie so she went camping to be “in tents.”



But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!



This Week’s Beer



Fire Ant Funeral | Texas Ale Project Dallas, TX




* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/37947/149299/
* BA Rating: 3.69/5
* Style: American Amber / Red Ale
* ABV: 6%
* Aaron: 6
* Shea: 6
* Steve: 6
* This Week’s Show




Round Table Discussion



New patron The Custodial Humanist.I love the name, but I have a question? Is it custodial as in providing protection or as in incarceration?



Awesomely funny show.




Waiting 4 Wrath is why I am seen laughing hysterically while driving home on Fridays to reach that all important post work beer. If you don’t listen to this podcast you are a poopy head.
5 Stars, Colin from Canada



Many thanks to our favorite farmer for the fab photo of the red heifers because of course there are red heifers.



This Week’s Stories



Did we or didn’t we?



As I hope our esteemed listeners are fully aware, Saturday July 20 is the 50th anniversary of the first human invaders to another celestial body (that we’re aware of, Stargate-type possibilities notwithstanding). As you probably also know; I’m the oldest one on this podcast and I was but 7 months old at the time, so I don’t remember it, though my mother tells me I was crawling around the room at 3:17 pm when they were watching it on TV. It had launched a few days earlier on July 16, traversed approximately 240,000 miles of fucking nothing, and landed safely on the moon. Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin spent approximately 21.5 hours on the surface, of which about 2.5 hours was outside of the lunar module “Eagle” and walking around doing stuff. They then, along with command pilot Michael Collins made the trip back home and landed in the middle of nowhere south pacific ocean about halfway between Hawaii and the Marshall Islands.



It only took me a couple of minutes to recount the very basics of the event, but it represented the culmination of nearly 10 years of intensive engineering work and training by over 420,000 people working for the US government and over 20,000 companies, spending billions of dollars and millions of man-hours to answer President Kennedy’s May 1961 call to congress of, “…landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth.” And at Rice University in September 1962 the famous words,




“We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone,]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 244 - The One Where Jenn Rinses Her Mouth Out With Grasshoppers https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-244/ Fri, 12 Jul 2019 13:00:40 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=37065 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-244/#disqus_thread https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-244/feed/ 0 In This Week’s Show, episode 244, we’re gonna learn about presidentially invented germs, apparently. In This Week’s Show, episode 244, we’re gonna learn about presidentially invented germs, apparently.

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Acesco (the Greek goddess of healing wounds) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Earache today, gone tomorrow (or at least Showtime)

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that sharks have been on our planet longer than trees?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Voodoo Ranger Juicifer IPA | New Belgium

This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

No patrons, no iTunes reviews, no Shea… kinda. The Patrons will get some Yeti, so make sure you’ve subscribed at https://patreon.com/w4w

4 More Beers is coming… I promise.

Brewfest is this weekend!

When you hear this, it will almost be Brewfest in Laramie! If you find yourself near our neck of the woods come to say hi and we’ll buy ya a free beer ;)

This Week

Jenn’s Story of SCIENCE(!) in History-ree-ree-ree…

As I briefly mentioned earlier, I spent most of the weekend of the 4th camping with family on a lake. Now, camping with a bunch of dogs, children and no running water will definitely give a personal appreciation of the little things after a while. Little things like hand washing and antiseptics. (After watching my oldest nephew drag up a long-dead fish to camp and all the other kids played with it for a bit, never after appearing to wash their hands, I was ready for a bleach bath.)

So today I have decided on a tale that involves history, science, health, and (since it was just July 4th) the assassination of a US President.

  • https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3468637/
  • http://broughttolife.sciencemuseum.org.uk/broughttolife/people/josephlister
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._Garfield
  • https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/dirty-painful-death-president-james-garfield

To start off our story, let me introduce you to the Right Honourable Lord Joseph Lister, British surgeon, scientist and lifelong fan of serious mutton-chops.

Born in Essex 1827, he was a brilliant and fastidious man. He was also drawn to medicine, surgery in particular, from an early age. Luckily for him, he had been born a white man, so that is what he did. In fact, he had quite an impressive career pretty much from the beginning. In 1846, he was present for the first surgery performed under anesthesia at 19. By the time he was 25, he had become a fellow at the Royal College of Surgeons in London.

His bright career trajectory (and surely his magnificent chops) led him to be suggested for employment to James Syme, Professor of Clinical Surgery in Edinburgh. The men hit it off so well that Lister quickly moved up the ranks from assistant to house surgeon to marrying Syme’s eldest daughter, Agnes. (Not to disparage the marriage; apparently, they were very close and loving. She was bright and learned in her own right and he was happy to have her join him in his work as a lifelong lab partner… since being a woman that was the best she could hope for.)

By 1860 Lister had moved to Glasgow and had begun reading about Pasteur’s work on microorganisms. Now the idea of bacteria or at least teeny-tiny things that affected things in the real world like fermenting beer or causing food to rot was pretty much established in the scientific community by this time. Lister, however, took this idea to a new level. (Apparently it was acceptable at the time for microbes to affect inanimate objects, but there was a lot of pushback to the idea that could affect people. I’m assuming it was partly the ‘we’re made in God’s image’ thing that has made evolution so hard to swallow.)

Anyway, working as a surgeon, Lister wondered if that was potentially what was causing wounds to become infected. At this point in time, no one knew exactly what caused infections and they were RAMPANT. (Literally, buckets were used to catch pus in hospital settings.) It was speculated the wounds themselves caused sepsis, gangrene and the assorted other types of infections and not, say, the total lack of understanding of cleanliness. So doctors and surgeons never washed their hands or equipment or changed from their bloody clothes. In fact, being covered in gore was were considered a status symbol and the mark of a “true surgeon.”

Luckily for humanity, in addition to being a brilliant scientist doctor, Lister was also apparently at least a little squeamish. He said “thank you, no” to the idea of a career filled with pus buckets and bloody everything and set about trying to find a preventative cure.

Directly from britannica.com: “Upon learning that carbolic acid was used as a disinfectant in the sewers to kill parasites, Lister wondered if these compounds might be safe to disinfect skin. He began to use carbolic acid to clean his hands, instruments, and bandages before, during, and after surgery. In 1869, Lister invented a new technique by filling a pump sprayer with carbolic acid to be used in the operating room.

He basically carbolic acid-ed everything, all the time. And guess what? It WORKED. In the hospital he oversaw, deaths from surgical infections dropped from about half of all patients to around 15%. He soon began touring hospitals in Scotland and England demonstrating his techniques and published his findings in 1867. By the mid-1870s many countries in Europe had embraced the technique and surgery became something that was actually helpful and survivable.

A couple of quick fun side notes about Lister: this sterilization process also led to him proving sterilized equipment could be left in the body.“Using sterilized silver wire, he treated orthopedic injuries. Lister also adopted the usage of sterilized catgut for internal sutures.” Also, the “mouthwash that kills germs that cause bad breath”? Yep, Listerine was named after Sir Joseph.

Ok, moving away from Britain, Lister and scientific progress, let’s travel across the sea and a bit of time to the United States. Most specifically, July 2, 1881, in a Baltimore train station. Nervously milling about in this station was a mentally ill unemployed lawyer who was on a mission of revenge. His name was Charles Guiteau and apparently the voices in his head (who were sometimes God) had convinced him that his destiny was to work for the US government and when he was denied, he took the next logical step: assassinate the president.

Since it was 1881, of course this was the recently sworn-in James A. Garfield, a man who in no way resembled a lazy, fat orange cat or our current lazy, fat orange president. In fact, he sounded like a helluva guy. He had been a Union general during the Civil War and was vehemently opposed to slavery. He was said to be charming, eloquent and energetic and a devoted family man. Also, fun fact, the only US president to be the first person to solve a math theorem. Trump, he was not.

So Garfield was in the train station on his way to a beach vacation on the Atlantic seaboard with his family. It should also be noted there was no Secret Service. In fact, he was traveling with no security at all and was basically just strolling the platform with his family.

Well, of course, as he was preparing to board, crazy lawyer Guiteau breaks through the crowd, firing at Garfield. The first bullet harmlessly grazed his arm, but unfortunately, the second passed the first lumbar vertebra of his spine and lodged in his abdomen. He hit the ground, mostly paralyzed but fully conscious and in great pain.

I want to interject that the following information was mainly taken from the book James A. Garfield: The American Presidents Series: The 20th President by Ira Rutkow.

Back to the situation at hand: Guiteau was apprehended at the scene and that’s enough about him for now, back to Garfield. Now, of course, the shooting of the president brings all the doctors to the yard, but these docs were definitely NOT better than yours.

The head of Garfield’s medical team was quickly determined to be a former military surgeon, Doctor Willard Bliss. Now in a hilariously unique example of a self-fulfilling prophecy, the name I just rattled off did NOT include his title. What now? Yes, his actual name is Doctor Willard Bliss, so he is technically Dr. Doctor.

Anyway, for a man with such a serendipitous name and occupation, he apparently had absolutely no sense of humor and was a rigid, narrow-minded old man.

And so begins a really, REALLY shitty few months for poor President Garfield. Focused on finding and removing the bullet, Bliss and the other doctors stuck their unwashed fingers in the wound (which, as we have discussed, is a terrible idea) and literally dug around over the course of a few weeks, all for naught and without applying the numbing power of ether anesthetic. The main reason behind the probing was to remove the bullet, as it was thought that leaving buckshot in a person’s body led to problems ranging from “morbid poisoning” to nerve and organ damage.

Turns out the bullet was quite the slippery escape artist, and the dirty-finger probing and surgical attempts to locate it turned the three-inch deep wound into a 20-inch-long incision, beginning at his ribs and extending to his groin. It soon became a super-infected, pus-ridden, gash of human flesh. And since Dr. Doctor and his team of Sweeney Todds weren’t making much headway, the press was soon putting out a call throughout the country for medical professionals, and just anyone really, to join in on the goddamn awful treatment of this poor man.

One group of naval engineers, responding to the reports of the President’s terribly high fever, attempted to make the first air conditioner. It worked by using a fan over blocks of ice, which makes sense and did kinda cool the room, but unsurprisingly did absolutely nothing for a raging fever.

One article happened to land in front of a young inventor, one Alexander Graham Bell. He has invented the telephone by this point, but was so wrapped up in litigation with other people claiming to have also invented said phone, so he had yet to make a real name for himself.

Anyway, Bell reaches out to Dr. Doctor Bliss with an offer of assistance, which surprisingly Bliss accepted. To help with locating the bullet, Bell created a very early version of the metal detector, which he called an ‘induction balance’. It was a block of wood with coils/chords which had an electrical current running between them. If the current encountered metal, it would make a noise as the connection was interrupted.

Being a good scientist, he ran several experiments, mainly by finding civil war veterans with shrapnel or hiding bullets in chunks of butcher meat. When he feels confident the machine is ready he heads to the White House to find that damn bullet. Unfortunately, with an almost theatrical showing of stage fright, the metal detector fritzed and hummed and basically did nothing that it was supposed to do when locating shards of metal embedded in the flesh. Annoyed, Dr. Doctor Bliss kicked the dejected young inventor out and was surely wrist deep in poor Garfield by lunchtime.

In a ridiculous later-discovered twist, Graham Bell was eventually exonerated. Turns out Garfield was slowly dying on one of the very few, brand new METAL spring mattresses in the entire country.

Not surprisingly, news of the terribly wounded and treated president reached Europe. Bringing our stories together, guess who reached out with some suggestions to Garfield’s medical team? That’s right, hero surgeon, Sir Joseph Lister. As a matter of fact, Lister had toured America about 5 years before Garfield was shot, giving lectures and hospital demonstrations. Was he greeted with thankful praise and adulation? Nope. He was booed, shouted at, laughed at, and just generally derided by the America medical elite. One doctor said, “He has a grasshopper in his head”, which I’m sure was devastatingly clever at the time. Some younger doctors had embraced the ideas, but established an older medical regime, including those treating Garfield, found the idea of ‘tiny lifeforms’ causing deadly infections preposterous. Sadly, Lister’s offer for help was ignored, though honestly by this point his help was probably no longer viable.

Garfield’s ordeal lasted an excruciating 80 days. From pbs.org: “Garfield wasted away from a plump 210 pounds to a bony 130 pounds. On September 6, a special train transported him to his seashore cottage at Long Branch, New Jersey. The president’s final breaths were inspired on the evening of September 19. Clutching his chest and wailing, “This pain, this pain,” he died. Without the aid of a stethoscope, Dr. Doctor W. Bliss raised his head from the president’s chest at 10:35 pm and announced to Mrs. Garfield and the medical retinue, “It is over.” The assigned causes of death include a fatal heart attack, the rupture of the splenic artery, which resulted in a massive hemorrhage, and, more broadly, septic blood poisoning.

I’m giving the last word of the story, surprisingly, to Charles Guiteau. He pled not guilty by reason of insanity, but was found guilty anyway, and sentenced to death. When interviewed on death row, he had this to say, “The doctors killed Garfield, I just shot him.”

Next Week’s Beer

Fire Ant Funeral from Texas Ale Project Dallas, TX

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  • BA Rating: 3.69/5
  • Style: American Amber / Red Ale
  • ABV: 6%

Faith In Humanity Restored

Better Heart Attacks… There’s an App for that.

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/goodsam-app-alerts-nearby-users-to-emergencies/

Ok, “better” might be a bit of an overstatement. How about “significantly less shitty”?

Apparently, if you’re having a cardiac event, every minute you don’t get CPR or a defib represents about 10% increased likelihood of fatality. So that’s bad… Unless you’re playing Mortal Kombat I guess.

Enter GoodSAM – or Good Samaritan. You might have heard of their GoodSAM AED Drones – the quadcopters that are AED devices with two-way video to trained emergency folks. They’ve created a new App to allow first responders and CPR trained volunteers to rush to the aid of those in need.

If an ambulance is dispatched in response to someone in the midst of cardiac arrest or some other life-threatening emergency, the “GoodSAM” app sends a cell phone alert to first responders and medically trained civilians who are nearby to the person in distress.

The app’s life-saving potential recently made headlines in Australia after an off-duty paramedic received a GoodSAM notification concerning a 49-year-old man who had collapsed at his Melbourne home in the dead of night.

Since the man lived close to her home, the paramedic was able to rush to his side and give him CPR until the ambulance arrived.

“I didn’t even take the time to get out of my pajamas,” the paramedic told 9News. “I just threw on a hoodie and went down to [his] house.”

Her quick actions ended up saving the man’s life – and her rescue is just one of the app’s many success stories; Victorian Health Minister Jenny Mikakos told the news outlet that the platform has already helped to save 20 people since the start of the year.

According to the GoodSAM website, over 40,000 trained volunteers are registered with the app’s international alert system, and they have already responded to roughly 8,000 alerts.

If you would like to find out how you can help, visit the App’s website and sign up!

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In This Week’s Show, episode 244, we’re gonna learn about presidentially invented germs, apparently.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Acesco (the Greek goddess of healing wounds) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Earache today, gone tomorrow (or at least Showtime)

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that sharks have been on our planet longer than trees?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Voodoo Ranger Juicifer IPA | New Belgium


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* BA Rating: 3.79/5
* Style: IPA
* ABV: 7.7%
* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 7
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

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4 More Beers is coming… I promise.

Brewfest is this weekend!

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This Week

Jenn’s Story of SCIENCE(!) in History-ree-ree-ree...

As I briefly mentioned earlier, I spent most of the weekend of the 4th camping with family on a lake. Now, camping with a bunch of dogs, children and no running water will definitely give a personal appreciation of the little things after a while. Little things like hand washing and antiseptics. (After watching my oldest nephew drag up a long-dead fish to camp and all the other kids played with it for a bit, never after appearing to wash their hands, I was ready for a bleach bath.)

So today I have decided on a tale that involves history, science, health, and (since it was just July 4th) the assassination of a US President.


* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3468637/
* http://broughttolife.sciencemuseum.org.uk/broughttolife/people/josephlister
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._Garfield
* https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/dirty-painful-death-president-james-garfield


To start off our story, let me introduce you to the Right Honourable Lord Joseph Lister, British surgeon, scientist and lifelong fan of serious mutton-chops.

Born in Essex 1827, he was a brilliant and fastidious man. He was also drawn to medicine, surgery in particular, from an early age. Luckily for him, he had been born a white man, so that is what he did. In fact, he had quite an impressive career pretty much from the beginning. In 1846, he was present for the first surgery performed under anesthesia at 19. By the time he was 25, he had become a fellow at the Royal College of Surgeons in London.

His bright career trajectory (and surely his magnificent chops) led him to be suggested for employment to James Syme, Professor of Clinical Surgery in Edinburgh. The men hit it off so well that Lister quickly moved up the ranks from assistant to house surgeon to marrying Syme’s eldest daughter, Agnes. (Not to disparage the marriage; apparently, they were very close and loving. She was bright and learned in her own right and he was happy to have her join him in his work as a lifelong lab partner… since being a woman that was the best she could hope for.)

By 1860 Lister had moved to Glasgow and had begun reading about Pasteur’s work on microorganisms. Now the idea of bacteria or at least teeny-tiny things that affected things in the real world like fermenting beer or causing food to rot was pretty much established in the scientific community...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Jenn Rinses Her Mouth Out With Grasshoppers yes 1:06:59
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 243 - The One Where We Fly A Fox on the Fourth For Freedom https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-243/ Fri, 05 Jul 2019 13:00:31 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=37056 In This Week’s Show, episode 243, I pull up my big-mammal pants and try out for some sports that I might just be able to play… if I wanted to. In This Week’s Show, episode 243, I pull up my big-mammal pants and try out for some sports that I might just be able to play… if I wanted to.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Chumunda (Hindu Goddess of fear) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that goth anti-vaxxers refuse to listen to the Cure.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Rübeaus Raspberry Beer from Founders6

ACTUALLY from Steve E(??)


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/23474/
* BA Rating: 3.9
* Style: Fruit & Field Beer
* ABV: 5.7
* Aaron: 10
* Shea: 10
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Thanks to Jon for a generous donation to help Jenn get remote-teched out

Great show!

June 20, 2019 by Fuzzyesquire from United States

Been listening for two years, each show is hysterical, great conversations and just a fun time. Thanks for all the laughs and good times.

If you want to send us beer we’ll have a new address soon, so now’s the time to email us!

This Week’s Stories

Ok Shea, this one’s for you.

I’ve finally learned about sports...

Not tried, of course, but I read about them online.

Oh yes, I’ve put on my finest pair of pigeon-cleats and went for a jaunt in marry ol’England to partake of their finest sport...

Kottobas - Antiquity

Of course, if not for the Greeks we wouldn’t have the wonders of Dwile Flocking. It’s... let’s say predecessor... probably, Kottobas was a favorite circa fourth and fifth centuries BC.

To begin one must first tap a new vat of wine and serve to friends and enemies alike. Once the goblets near empty, contestants would assume the sporting position... reclining on there dining table, and deftly flick the remaining wine sediment from their glass at a target.

Apparently success in Kottobas was a precursor to success in affairs of the heart — because those who competes in the wine-games sees only 10s.

Pulling Your Goose

The Mid-17th century was a glorious time for animal based sport - and masterbation jokes.

To begin pulling your goose you need some rope to tie it up with and a horse. The goose is hung by its feet from a tree or whatever and contestants take turns riding the horse at a full gallop and try to grab the goose’s head.

The goal, because everything back then was terrible and covered in the blood of the innocent, was to pull the gooses head off. Thereby forever enshrining your position as a master head puller and also, I assume, winning you the goose-head. Also you’re, “crowned” as the “king” for one whole year with a crown and mantle. At the end of his “king” reign, he has to indulge his “subjects” to a feast of beer, cigars and bread pudding or sausages that is held either at his house or the local pub. Kings compete with each other to become the “emperor”.

The event is still practiced today in Belgium, the Netherlands, and Germany. Though use of a live goose was banned in the 1920’s. Though purist still argue that half the challenge was the bird flapping about, and a flaccid goose just isn’t as much fun to pull on.

Dwile Flonking - 1960

First things first, we’re going to have to get into a gaming mood with a rousing round of Dwile Flonking.

One of the more recent inventions of English sport, Dwile Flonking comes from Norfolk, min-1960... and almost certainly a pub. The rules are simple enough.

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Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Fly A Fox on the Fourth For Freedom yes 1:00:50
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 242 - The One Where Jim Takes Pride In His Gruyereaivoyance! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-242/ Fri, 28 Jun 2019 13:00:50 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=37046 In This Week’s Show, episode 242, we’re finishing up Pride month with a rainbowlific quiz - it’s gonna be fabulous! In This Week’s Show, episode 242, we’re finishing up Pride month with a rainbowlific quiz - it’s gonna be fabulous!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Iris (the Greek goddess of the rainbow and messenger of the gods) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s …

… playing a doubleheader of softball.

In the rain.

So much wet Yeti smell...

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

This week I learned that Shea plays softball.

Jim’s Good Gay News

In case you’ve missed it, it’s the end of Pride month! And I finally have internet restorer at Queen Acres, so it’s time to taste the rainbow, bitches!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Fat Randy's IPA | Holidaily Brewing Co.

NOT Donated by Steve E.


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/44203/213693/
* BA Rating: 3.66
* Style: American IPA
* ABV: 7%
* Aaron: 4
* Jenn: 3
* Jim: Vodka!
* Steve: 3


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Aaron had a birthday and didn’t die.

Thank you, Eli for being most fantastic

This Week’s Stories

Detective Dickhead Wants Cops to Kill the Gays https://www.advocate.com/religion/2019/6/12/tennessee-cop-turned-pastor-urges-execution-gays

We want you to sign up for http://patreon.com/w4w so you can hear about how terrible he is!

A sermon in which a minister who is also a sheriff’s detective with 20 years of service called for the execution of LGBTQ people has led to an investigation by authorities in Knox County, Tenn. Grayson Fritts gave the sermon June 2 (the first Sunday of LGBTQ Pride Month) at All Scripture Baptist Church in Knoxville, where he is pastor. Because a Bible and a badge are two great tastes that go great together.

His sermon was titled “Sodomite Reprobates” and based on the King James Version of the Bible - Leviticus 20:13, to be specific. This is one of the 9 “clobber passages” that are often trotted out to suggest that being gay is and always has been a sin. Nevermind the documented history and linguistic translations that contradict this… But it’s the same book that says gawd hates shrimp and you should be stoned for wearing a nice cotton-poly blend. I doth quote: “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”

Some quotes:


* Where’s the irony? He was ranting about Taylor Swift and then went down the rabbit hole, saying “I’m sick of sodomy getting crammed down our throats.” My first thought was “that’s not how sodomy works,” but then I remembered that many state sodomy laws include oral sex, even for heterosexuals, so Fritts and zealots like him might be “sodomites” without even realizing it.
* “The Bible says the powers that be are ordained of God, and God has instilled the power of civil government to send the police in 2019 out to these LGBT freaks and arrest them and have a trial for them, and if they are convicted, then they are to be put to death ... do you understand that? It’s a capital crime to be carried out by our government. Not Christians, unless you’re a policeman. Know what I mean? If you’re a policeman it should be your responsibility to carry these things out.”
* “Those were the laws civil government would enforce. Just like we have laws now… Murder, rape, kidnapping, adultery...they were punishable by death.”
* “Pride parades? Man, hey, call the riot teams, we got a bunch of ’em, get the paddy wagon out here, we got a bunch of ’em going to jail,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Jim Takes Pride In His Gruyereaivoyance! yes 1:05:29
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 241 - The One Where Jenn Teaches Us About Mooooon Sexing https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-241/ Fri, 21 Jun 2019 13:00:02 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=37026 In This Week’s Show, episode 241, we’re back and it’s show time! Not, not show time like last week, we promise! In This Week’s Show, episode 241, we’re back and it’s show time! Not, not show time like last week, we promise!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Selene, the Titan goddess of the moon, hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that older forms of English kept Latin’s gender specific suffixes -tor and -trix; tor was for men and trix was for women. A male pilot was an Aviator where a woman was an Aviatrix, same for gladiator and gladiatrix. This contrasts the modern system where tor is for both men and women and trix are for kids.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know our moon is the 5th largest in our solar system? And that’s all the real stuff you’re going to learn today about the moon!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Fresh Haze | Deschutes Brewery

Donated by- RW


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/63/344944/
* BA Rating: 3.83
* Style: New England IPA
* ABV: 6.5%
* Aaron: 10
* Jenn: 6
* Shea: 8


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Thanks for understanding about last week’s clusterfuck everyone. I’m blaming Texas. We tried something new and it was… terrible… just terrible.

On the upside, this airs on my birthday, so leave us an iTunes review!
~Aaron

New patron Lindy… hop?

Listener Mandy asked us on Twitter about Wyoming beers in bottles (friend is collecting ones from all 50 states and can’t find one from WY)

Plug of Chris Matheson’s new god video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHxEz7E-d9w

Chris Matheson’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Story-God-Biblical-Comedy-about-ebook/dp/B013AGFK8C/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Chris+matheson&qid=1560993835&s=gateway&sr=8-2

Jim got a shoutout on True Crime Obsessed episode where they cover ‘Matt Shepard Is A Friend of Mine’

This Week’s Stories

Patreon Hoax


* https://www.theguardian.com/technology/shortcuts/2018/apr/15/australia-doesnt-exist-and-other-bizarre-geographic-conspiracies-that-wont-go-away
* https://theculturetrip.com/pacific/australia/articles/some-people-think-australia-doesnt-exist-heres-why/
* https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/953382/Flat-Earth-theory-Australia-not-real-conspiracy


This week’s patreon story … is a hoax.

Thank you, good night.

But really, I was going to do the story of how Finland isn’t real until I checked my unplayed podcasts. Thanks Citation Needed.

So I started looking for other crypto-geos.

Turns out Wyoming isn’t real. We’re a deep-state fake. That’s true.

Also, Australia isn’t real.

We know this because in 2006 the Flat Earth Society discovered that under the Earth there be monsters… and not just drop bears. Then in 2017 a reddit user explained that a zanny land of poisonous everything and giant hoppy, boxing, mice is clearly made up. According to Floryd, who lives in Stockholm - a real place - Australia was invented by Britain as the magical place they sent all those criminals they actually murdelated. Floryd has 20,000 followers. They fervently believe that the entire island was fabricated to hide the execution of 162,000 prisoners. A con continued to this day through the employment of fake airline pilots, and zainy actors with obviously fake, cartoonish accents.



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Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Jenn Teaches Us About Mooooon Sexing yes 1:01:33
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 240 - The One Where We Remember Year 2 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-240/ Fri, 14 Jun 2019 13:00:32 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=37012 In This Week’s Show, episode 240, we look back at year two of the show and reap what chilling laughter we can from catacombs of stories long past. In This Week’s Show, episode 240, we look back at year two of the show and reap what chilling laughter we can from catacombs of stories long past.
Thanks for understanding that this show needed to be late. Apologies all!
~ Aaron

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while The Reaper hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying its patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that when you have a clap light in your bedroom, rough sex also becomes a rave.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Don’t glue your vagina shut, please.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Lake Beer | Big Lake Brewing

Donated by- Steve E.


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/33297/357474/
* BA Rating: 3.91
* Style: American Lager
* ABV: 4.7%
* Aaron: 3
* Jenn: 2
* Shea: 4
* Steve: 4


Round Table Discussion

It’s our second Clip Show. Enjoy!

Year Two


* Episode 71 @ 40:12 - Oruk-eh - Maple Medical
* Episode 72 @ 48:43 - Crystal Methodist
* Episode 73 @ 42:00 - NRA Fairy Tales
* Episode 75 @ 45:03 - Jim’s The Boss
* Episode 78 @ 13:10 - Sex Doll Angel
* Episode 88 @ 40:20 - Resurrection Seed
* Episode 105 @ 14:00 - Beardless Yeti
* Episode 106 @ 34:00 - Maple Malfeasance
* Episode 118 @ 38:58 - Nazi Furrys - Live with Jenn!


Next Week's Beer

Beer Fresh Haze | Deschutes Brewery

Donated by- RW


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/63/344944/
* BA Rating: 3.83
* Style: New England IPA
* ABV: 6.5%


Faith In Humanity Restored

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mister-rogers-honored-with-first-annual-statewide-day-of-kindness-in-pennsylvania-143-day/

"1-4-3." It's a code that beloved children's television star Fred Rogers would say to his friends in the neighborhood — and it stands for the number of letters in the words "I love you."

Now, Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf has declared May 23 — the 143rd day of the year — "143 Day," a day to celebrate and honor the Pennsylvania native's kindness by following his example. According to the Fred Rogers Center, the number was a reminder of compassion, and it meant a lot to everyone's favorite neighbor.

"I've proclaimed today to be 1-4-3 Day, Pennsylvania's first statewide day of kindness," Wolf tweeted. "Join me in spreading love today and seeing just how far a little kindness can go."

To help people show their neighbors a little extra kindness through simple good deeds, the state's website created a "kindness generator," which pumps out ideas such as "Donate to a local children's fund" and "Write your favorite teacher a letter."

“Happy #143Day, Neighbors! Whether you say, "I love you," or "143," there are many ways to show you care about someone.” pic.twitter.com/O2qzpazpNJ

— Fred Rogers Productions (@FredRogersPro) May 23, 2019

The site is also tracking how many people share their kindness on social media using the hashtag #143DayinPA. By late afternoon, it had been used nearly 12,000 times.

Join The Discussion

We’d love to hear from you!

To comment on a show or suggest a brew visit our web, twitter or Facebook pages. As always, we’d love to get a good rating on iTunes, Google Play, or http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36991 In This Week’s Show, episode 238, Shea and I do a story, intro a story, and apologize for Jenn and Steve skipping out on the show, because they hate you. In This Week’s Show, episode 238, Shea and I do a story, intro a story, and apologize for Jenn and Steve skipping out on the show, because they hate you.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while something struck half of us down we are not out!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that masturbation is necrophilia if you’re dead inside.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Everyone actually has 3 voices, the one in your head, the one others hear when you talk and the one the one we sweaten in post-production to stop your ears bleeding.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a few beers because the adults left us unattended!

This Week’s Beer

Bloodtusk Lager | Burial Beer Co.


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/31722/318003/
* BA Rating: 4.03
* Style: German Kellerbier / Zwickelbier
* ABV: 5.1%
* Aaron: 8
* Shea: 8


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patron: Locusts with Pitchforks and Glowsticks

iTunes

Always listen to you when doing outside chores, makes the time seem short and the work easier. As an atheist and home brewer this is my kind of show. I believe Jenn is from the 'boro. Want a local beer?

By Hasa Diga via iTunes - USA - May 31, 2019

Messages

We have kind of a collection of messages so…

Speaking of nursing, if we have any listeners who are in a medical field internationally or who have done international work, shoot me an email!

Voicemail!

Updates

https://www.thedailybeast.com/woman-stabs-baby-trump-balloon-in-london

After getting permission from London Mayor, Sadiq Khan, baby trump took to the air for the great Cheeto’s visit. Unfortunately on day two of his visit a woman recorded herself popping one of the giant orange balloons while saying,

“Did it! That’s a disgrace! It’s a national disgrace! The President of the United States is the best president ever.”

A spokesperson for Scotland Yard told the newspaper “one female has been arrested for being in possession of a pointed or bladed article.”

Today’s Show

It’s an Evergreen kinda show!

Hey all, we’ve got a little discombobulated this week so Shea and I will fall back on the old format for some headlines and a couple of stories. And we’ll do a lil’funny and an extra beer, then we’ll dive into some recorded, but never aired, stuff that I think you’re really going to enjoy.

Headlines Hotshots

HL1 - Fire Snakes

Snakes on a Flame

Originally recorded last week for 238.

https://www.abc12.com/content/news/This-is-crazy-Firefighters-battle-blaze-in-house-filled-with-snakes-510195951.html

In a story that will keep Aaron up all night, Arizona firefighters were called to put out a house fire when they were greeted by hundreds of snakes upon entry. Phoenix Fire Capt. Greg Hawk said firefighters were bit with the element of surprise when they responded to a house fire this past Thursday.

“It was honestly like a movie,” Hawk said. “It really hit us that, you know, we were walking around with snakes and lizards and everything else.”

You’ll be happy to hear, that because so many reptiles were in the home, it changed how firefighters fought the blaze. Rather than fighting it from the outside, they took the riskier approach and battled it from inside to save as many reptiles as they could.

"There were literally firefighters that were fighting fire, squirting water on the fire, and guys next to them picking up snakes and putting them in buckets," Hawk said. "We just knew that we had to do what we could to protect t...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Shea & Aaron Were Left Unsupervised yes 1:02:49
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 238 - The One Where Bribe A Bear With Beer To Beat But Und Boden! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-238/ Fri, 31 May 2019 13:00:38 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36969 In This Week’s Show, episode 238, it’s Tuesday, it’s the end of May, and we’re recording in a foot of snow because fuck us, that’s why. In This Week’s Show, episode 238, it’s Tuesday, it’s the end of May, and we’re recording in a foot of snow because fuck us, that’s why.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Babi (the bloodthirsty Egyptian baboon god of virility) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that you can only call it a trebuchet if it comes from the Trebuch region of France. Otherwise it’s just a sparkling catapult.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Babi’s diet consisted entirely of the entrails of the dead? But that wasn’t his most charming attribute: that would be his penis. Ancient Egyptian males who wished to, shall we say, continue to give their lovers full salutes in the afterlife would pray to Babi. His phallus was said to adorn the doors to the kingdom of heaven, as well as functioning as the mast for the Underworld ferry.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Classic Pilsner by Blackrocks Brewing

Donated By: Steve E.


* BA Link:http://bit.ly/2VN3Fly
* BA Rating: 3.9/5
* Style: German Pilsner
* ABV: 5.5%
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 7
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patron Brian! (not the dog from Family Guy, we can do better)

Patron Story

Monkeys In Space -ace-ace-ace-ace…

Well... they're exactly in space. But they are available now at http://patreon.com/w4w

https://www.space.com/able-baker-monkeys-survived-space-60th-anniversary.html

Sixty years ago today - as of recording that is - so… sixty years ago earlier this week, humanity shot two monkeys into space. What separates their story from other space-apes and Kosmo, is that they came back to Earth safely… but, sadly, without super powers.

Able and Baker took flight on May 28, 1959, soaring 300 miles (480 kilometers) up during a 15-minute flight. At the time, they were humble female laboratory animals, barely given names for the project before they were stuffed into a Jupiter Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile

In two years time the first humans would be shot into space. Unfortunately, Able would have already passed away and Baker was married off and put on display as a trophy monkey-wife.

"My whole jam with the history of the astronauts is kind of going one step back in time and going beyond the earliest stories that we know about them," Jordan Bimm, a sociologist at Princeton University who has researched Able and Baker in this context, told Space.com. "Almost nobody remembers the story of Able and Baker, who were actually the first primates to be recovered from a spaceflight."

So, like the contributions of most women in science, they were doomed to be forgotten or see all the credit go to further inflate the massive red-assed ego of some dude-bro monkey who, like totally for sure wrote the majority of the monkey-code or whatever.

They were American stars… I mean, once they landed. The preceding six consecutive monkeys dubbed Albert and one named Gordo all died of space or ex-space related death. Cold War stereotypes and symbolism, Bimm argues. "[Their survival] allowed them to perform a sort of PR work and to become, importantly, America's first celebrity space animals," he said. The monkeys flew as part of NASA's Bioflight #2 mission, along with payloads ranging from blood samples to yeast cells to two frogs they could lick to ease their travels.

Against the backdrop of the Cold War "recovering these animals alive was a huge priority; they really, really, really wanted them both alive," Bimm said. "Getting some wins on the board for America was cruci...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Bribe A Bear With Beer To Beat But Und Boden! yes 58:09
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 237 - The One Where We Treat Our Pod-Pox With Feathery Footwear https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-237/ Fri, 24 May 2019 13:00:43 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36949 In This Week’s Show, episode 237, we consult the star charts and find out Shea’s acute Yetism might be contagious, but only for yee-olde Europeans and anti-vaxxers. In This Week’s Show, episode 237, we consult the star charts and find out Shea’s acute Yetism might be contagious, but only for yee-olde Europeans and anti-vaxxers.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Hermes (Messenger of the Greek gods, aka Mercury, which btw is the 3rd sign of the zodiac, Gemini, which is also Twins, because stars — that’s right Steve, it’s an astrology show)  hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that the difference between an ass kisser and a brown noser is their depth perception.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

And I’m Jenn. Did you know that, as a woman with a still functioning uterus, it’s been a scary and disheartening week.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

White by Allagash Brewing

Donated By: James & Susan

BA Link: http://bit.ly/2VJxUKr

BA Rating: 4.15/5

Style: Belgian White

ABV: 5.1%


* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 7
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 4


New voicemail from Jessie from Jersey.

Re: Mr. Bible Pants, gave the story to Jim and we’ll get his thoughts when he can next be on… Jim?

Email from Dave

Finally, join us on Friday at 7pm Mountain (Denver) time on Shelley Segal’s YouTube channel. Look for a link on twitter at 4Wrath and facebook.

This Week’s Show

Old Medicine Show

Private Internet Access Link: http://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/buy-vpn/w4w

And if you want Shea's take on pee-porn, you'll need access to this story which is available now at http://patreon.com/w4w

With crazy medical treatments being created every day I was curious to see if there are any crazy treatments that have lasted the ages and actually work.

I’m sure you have all heard of leeches being used in ye olden times but did you know it’s still being used today? like in hospitals and by real doctors. The treatment dates back to 800 BCE when they were used in bloodletting, a practice believed to cure fevers, headaches and serious illnesses. Today leeches are used to stimulate blood circulation after skin grafts and reconstructive surgery. The leech’s saliva contains enzymes and compounds that act as an anticoagulation agent. The most prominent of these anticoagulation agents is hirudin, which binds itself to thrombins, thus, effectively inhibiting coagulation of the blood. Leeching might sound primitive but the FDA approved leeches as “medical devices” in 2004 to drain pooled blood after surgery.

Trepanation, you’ve seen this hundreds of times in horror films – the threat of having someone drill a hole into your head is scary enough. But doctors believe the practice actually serves some medical benefit. Dating back to prehistoric times, People in many areas may have thought they were releasing evil spirits from the head, but really they were reducing the damage done by a knock to the skull. The surgeries were used to remove bone shards from the head, stop bleeding on the brain, or reduce internal pressure after head trauma. Some remains had more than one hole in the skull, indicating people not only survived the first procedure, but had it done again many years later. In today’s industry, holes are drilled into the skull to relieve pressure after serious trauma to the brain has occurred. However, making a permanent hole in someone’s head isn’t a safe thing to do, and these days if a doctor makes a hole in a skull they usually replace the bone and patch it up.

We talked about leeches but how about maggots? For some reason I feel maggots are worse. Dating back to ancient times, physicians have used maggots to help clean injuries and prevent infection.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Treat Our Pod-Pox With Feathery Footwear yes 1:03:05
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 236 - The One Where We Smoke A Fox's Face Until We Barf https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-236/ Fri, 17 May 2019 13:00:36 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36933 In This Week’s Show, episode 236, we ate some tonkotsu ramen with seared steak and mushrooms… shitakies… they’re shitakies. In This Week’s Show, episode 236, we ate some tonkotsu ramen with seared steak and mushrooms… shitakies… they’re shitakies.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Pythia, the high priestess of the temple of Apollo at Delphi (aka, the Delphic Oracle), hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that in 2020 there will be a whole month of 4/20 and there will a super 4/20 where everyone will smoke crack.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that recent geological investigations have shown that gas emissions from a geologic chasm in the earth could have inspired the Delphic Oracle to "connect with the divine." Some researchers suggest the possibility that ethylene gas caused the Pythia's state of inspiration.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Black Currant Saison by White Elm Brewing

Donated By: Brendan


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2VqAxk9
* BA Rating: 3.89 out of 5
* Style: Belgian Saison
* ABV: 6.5%
* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 6
* Shea: 6
* Steve: 5


Round Table Discussion

New patron Randy! Yeah, baby! Because we are CURRENT with our jokes.

Marshall: I've made a pledge to donate $5 to Planned Parenthood each time I see anti-choice protesters in front of their clinics.

Wonderful follow-up voicemail update from our very favorite nurse, Rebecca:

(also, we need to add a couple of math updates: $1200 pounds to dollars is about $1600. This goes into Jenn’s correction corner of her intro tidbit from last week. She TOTALLY meant BC instead of AD, but saying “the 13th of the fourth moon of the ninth year of Xiantong” is hard enough without random, religious-y letters. ...

Math sucks and is hard.)

Short Story

Psycho Shaman Stuff

http://bit.ly/30nj4g2



A recent discovery in Bolivia has taught us that Native Americans living in South America over 1000 years ago had quite a powerful medical tool kit. Well I say medicine… these drugs can certainly make you feel better. What anthropologists found was the largest number of psychoactive substances ever found in a single archaeological assemblage from South America. Drugs and paraphernalia were found in a pouch, stitched together from three fox snouts, yes I said fox snouts. the leather bag contained two wooden tablets for grinding psychotropic plants into snuff, two bone spatulas, a woven headband, and a tube with two human hair braids attached, for smoking hallucinogenic plants.



"We already knew that psychotropics were important in the spiritual and religious activities of the societies of the south-central Andes, but we did not know that these people were using so many different compounds and possibly combining them together," said anthropologist Jose Capriles of Penn State.

Archaeologists weren't specifically searching for psychotropics, but rather evidence of human habitation in the dry stone shelters of the Sora River Valley Bolivia. There, in a cave, Cueva del Chileno, they found a leather bundle. Radiocarbon dating of the leather wrapping put its age at around 1,000 years old. The team took a small scraping of the material coating the inside of the fox pouch and analysed it using liquid chromatography and tandem mass spectrometry. They found that the pouch could have contained four or five different plants - but definitely at least three.

"Chemical traces of bufotenine, dimethyltryptamine, harmine, and cocaine, including its degradation product benzoylecgonine, were identified, suggesting that at least three plants containing these compounds were part of the shamanic paraphernalia,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Smoke A Fox's Face Until We Barf yes 1:01:22
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 235 - The One Where We Get Cow-Pox From Ghondy At DQB! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-235/ Fri, 10 May 2019 13:00:21 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36926 In This Week’s Show, episode 235, we’re gonna wrap up DQB in a lovely smallpox blanket with help from patriotic nurses south of the border. In This Week’s Show, episode 235, we’re gonna wrap up DQB in a lovely smallpox blanket with help from patriotic nurses south of the border.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Rangi - the Maori Sky god and ‘great father of men’ - hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that geology rocks but geography is where it’s at!

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know the ‘Diamond Sutra’ is the world’s oldest book with a definite print date? Dated “the 13th of the fourth moon of the ninth year of Xiantong”, or 11 May AD 868, it’s a 5 meter long scroll, written in Chinese and currently held in the British Library, and contains lessons from the Buddha, who gave the text its name by declaring the teachings will “cut like a diamond blade”.

So, the day after this episode airs in general release the Diamond Sutra will celebrate it’s 2,887th publishing birthday.

Jim’s Good Gay Whatever

He’s Big Gay Jim on Waiting 4 Wrath - Remotely

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Pentagram by Surly Brewing

Donated By: Jaded Zappa


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2ZQWIDn
* BA Rating: 4.15 out of 5
* Style: American Wild Ale
* ABV: 6.66%
* Aaron: 4
* Jenn: 2
* Jim: Rum
* Shea: 6
* Steve: 1


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

PATRONS! Plural! Thanks to Matt B. and Jon H. Also Willow upped her donation so she’s obviously not the evil Willow (Buffy reference for the win!!!!)

Jenn got to meet fellow podcasters and friends of the show Dustin and Lauren of Atheist Nomads, and their tiny pod-producer Kylie while in Boise.

Show updates!
We’ve mentioned this to patrons already (see, #itsgoodtobeapatron) but I’d like to soft-announce forthcoming show changes. We’ve hinted at changes for a while and some, like the new logo, have happened. Others faded away or were so subtle as to not warrant mentioning, however, this one’s a doozy. The changes will accommodate yet unannounced production challenges (that hopefully won’t be apparent in the final show), make over-all production easier on us, and address the terribly depressing state of reading the news in 2019. In a nutshell, we’re going to do a weekly longform topic, driven by a single host - think bigger second halves… whole halves, if you will. We’ll still do beers, a happy closing story, and of course Patrons will still get a unique story and access to any bonus content that happens to happen. So there’s still plenty of reason to visit https://patreon.com/w4w and support the show! We’re aiming for this change to happen in early June, but it may be a bit sooner… I say all of this to say, fear not! The show will still be a drunken, irreverent, silly-good time! Of course we’re interested in your input so tweet us, leave us a message at 513-760-0463, or if you really want to get our attention, the comments section of Patreon is great for that ;)

Headlines Hotshots

DQB Wrap Up!

Let’s talk about You and Me, let’s talk about DQB!

Damnit Humans!


Humans are the worst right? But you know what makes you a better human, donating to us at http://patreon.com/w4w! Not only will it improve your karma it will get you immediate access to this story!

See, this is why I Don’t want to read the news anymore…


* https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-48168144


Everything is dying everywhere and it’s our fault. Proving that you don’t need the infinity stones to board the genocide train, scientists released a 1,500 page report that says, in short,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Get Cow-Pox From Ghondy At DQB yes 1:06:49
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 234 - The One Where We Ride Goat-Birds To Endgame https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-234/ Fri, 03 May 2019 13:00:49 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36907 In This Week’s Show, episode 234, and I am inevitable…ly gonna pronounce most of this stuff wrong… In This Week’s Show, episode 234, and I am inevitable…ly gonna pronounce most of this stuff wrong…
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while The Titans haven’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that my favorite part of Avengers; End Game was when Pepper Pots took the Infinity Stone and put them in her vagina to cure the world of cancer.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Wasatch GhostRider White IPA, Salt Lake City, UT

Donated by: RW
BA Link: http://bit.ly/2ZBsVOY
BA Rating: 3.68/5
Style: Belgian IPA
ABV: 6%


* Aaron: 8
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Drag Queen Bingo!

Thanks to everyone who shared, donated, and came to the event! The total I’ve heard around the facebooks was 27K! Which is a fantastic boost to those living with HIV/AIDS. We need to give a special thank you to Marie & Shannon, as well as Amanda for making it to DQB! It was great to see you, sorry I had to duck out early, but I’m sure Steve and Shea kept things lively.

Headlines Hotshots

Avengers Endgame! (no spoilers!)

So I wanna talk about Endgame, but I don’t want to be like the guy in Causeway Bay, Hong Kong… the unnamed-because-of-shame-I’m-sure man had just left a showing on the 24th and decided to start yelling spoilers loudly as others were queued up in line to see the film. When the paramedics arrived he had to explain that he got his ass beat for spoiling Endgame. The first responders seem genuinely annoyed to have to help him and social media is littered with pics of him bleeding followed by comments like “he got his just deserts served” and “[feels] good seeing this.” So yeah, Thanos demands your silence and you’ll get your ass snapped if you spoil shit.

http://bit.ly/2ZSn2gn

Once in the theater, moviegoers in Zhejiang province had to sit though worse-than-usual previews as Luandu District People’s Court announced on their WeChat (because everywhere is fucked) that they would add a 30 second mini-feature to the usual mugshots of debtors displayed before movies. They called it an easter-egg, the rest of us just call it public shaming and judging by the pic, everyone was looking at their phones anyway, so why bother.

http://bit.ly/2ZSn2gn

Apparently it works though, since instituting the pre-movie shame, some 3 million people and businesses have repaid a fucking tone of debt.

I think it’s safe to say that once you get into the theater, you’re in for a hell of a ride. Just remember to breath… unlike another 21-year-old Chinese movie goer who became so emotional toward the end that she began uncontrollable sobbing and hyperventilating to the point that paramedics had to be called to bring her oxygen and get her out of the theater before Thanos claimed her as well.

http://bit.ly/2UZgzgd

So yeah, it’s a good movie. We’ll do a proper review later, but I’ll say I enjoyed the hell out of it and I totally get almost dying, or almost getting murdered, because of the film’s rollercoaster showing. That said, if you’re feeling like you’re not up to it, you can always swing by Dickson Tenn.’s Dickson theater, located across from a church and school, which is showing the new Heckboy movie… unfortunately, it has a 14% on Rotten Tomatoes… maybe Endgame can lend a few of their currently 97 percents…

http://bit.ly/2ZTCYiA

The Other Side of Low Voter Turnout

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/indonesia-elections-worker-deaths_n_5cc6942ee4b08e4e34841e60?ncid=APPLENEWS00001

In America,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Ride Goat-Birds To Endgame yes 54:49
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 233 - The One Where We Lay Rabbit Eggs For The End Times https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-233/ Fri, 26 Apr 2019 13:00:33 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36896 In This Week’s Show, episode 233, it’s bunny-chocolate holiday, so I’ve hidden a dozen rabbit eggs around Shea’s house… Shea has rabbit poo in his house. In This Week’s Show, episode 233, it’s bunny-chocolate holiday, so I’ve hidden a dozen rabbit eggs around Shea’s house… Shea has rabbit poo in his house.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Saraswati (the Hindu goddess of the arts, wisdom and learning) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that we just walk around pretending it’s not weird that one of our hands is better at stuff than the other is.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Easter is the second biggest candy holiday after Halloween?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Burning Skye Scottish Style Ale - Empyrean Brewing Co., Lincoln, NE

Donated By: Brendon


* BA Link:
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1880/5401/
* BA Rating: 3.47
* Style: Scottish Ale
* ABV: 5.3%
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 7
* Shea: 7
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Updated iTunes review:

You’re Missing Out If You’re Not Listening

by Odysseus2k7 on
Rating: ★★★★★

Long time listener and patron. I listened to the last episode and disrupted work because of my laughter. Amazing, consistent content.

Beer presents from Steve E!

Ok all, this is it - It’s last call for Drag Queen Bingo! This weekend, as of airdate, we’ll be at the Hilton Garden Inn for the Draggiest, Queeniest, Bingo Laramie has to offer. We’ll be raising money for WyoAIDS.org, which is also where you can go to buy tickets or make a donation.

Speaking of DQB and WyoAIDS, we need to thank Cog Dis for having Jim and I on this week and for their generous $500 donation! Thanks to all their listeners who have donated and/or tuned in to our weirdness… enjoy the show!

Headlines Hotshots

HL1 - FacePunch!

Take a few moments to travel away with me. We’re on our way to a beautiful beach, where’s that? Oh yes, in Brazil. Rio De Janeiro, in fact. What’s that? Could it be a photo shoot with a beautiful woman in a bathing suit? Why, yes, yes it. She has long, streaked dark hair and an eye-catching black one-piece on her toned body. Ah yes...what a sight, right?

Well, local man Josinei Ferreira sure thought so. I’m not sure what he expected visiting the beach that day, but apparently he felt he’d won the straight dude lottery. Oh, Josinei is also a nasty perv. He was enjoying the site of the swimwear clab woman so much, he pulled him swimsuit down and began to show his appreciation in a more primitive way, by beginning to masterbate. With noises.

Unsurprisingly, the object of the shoot, Joyce Vieira happened to notice a crouched man staring intently at her while she was just trying to carry on a (surely) penis-free photo session. She’s says at first she wasn’t sure what he was doing but as she approached him to tell him please continue on his way she noticed he was “visibly erect, making noises and groaning.” Once again, Vieira told him to stop, to which she says he replied, “Why, you don’t like it? Come here.”

Gross, right? And Joyce was having none of it. “It was very surreal. Generally people who are caught doing this always deny it, ‘No, no, no.’He didn’t. He continued.” Vieira responded by kicking him. Ferreira punched her back. “But the punch made me even angrier. I wanted to kill him,” Vieira said.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention. Joyce is a professional MMA fighter.

So yeah, it didn’t take very long for Josinei to realize he had made a very big mistake. “When the guy saw that it was going to get real, he started screaming.]]> Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Lay Rabbit Eggs For The End Times yes 1:11:23 Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 232 - The One Where Shelley Helps Us Find A Dolphin's Down'Unda! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-232/ Fri, 19 Apr 2019 13:00:33 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36890 In This Week’s Show, episode 232, Shelley’s here but we don’t have a live audience because her music is just for us! Also, the second half will have music… In This Week’s Show, episode 232, Shelley’s here but we don’t have a live audience because her music is just for us! Also, the second half will have music…
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Leucothea, Greek sea goddess of seagulls, hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned 87% of cats believe in the prophet Mohammed but do not identify as religious.

Shelley’s Actual Lesson

(distinct gull bird noises)

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Festbier - Boulder Beer Co, Boulder, CO
Donated By: RW
BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/130/370849/
BA Rating: 3.75
Style: German Märzen / Oktoberfest
ABV: 5.4%


Aaron: 7
Shelley: 7
Rob: 4
Shea: 7
Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

4 More Beers episode 29 will record Live on April 20th @ 1:30 MST!

Jenn is gone again and I can only assume it’s because we have no new reviews. So this one’s on you listeners…

New Patron Michael, meyers? the grinch one not the stabby hockey mask one.

Drag Queen Bingo is almost here, it’s about a week away on April 27th. This year's theme is heroes and villains so make sure you put on that spandex! Tickets are on sale now at wyoaids.org or find the link in the show notes.

https://wyoaids.org/bingo 

Last year Marti and her pals raised over $28,000 and we want to do everything we can to top it this year. If you can make it we would love to see you and probably buy you a drink! Doors open at 530 and the bingo starts at 7. If you can’t make it but still want to support Marti you can make a donation at wyoaids.org.

Shea's Cuddle Corner

In honor or our studio guest who is a seagull, I decided to create an animal segment I call the Yeti’s Cuddle Corner! I found a few great animal stories this week and I thought it would be fun to get a bit wild!

In a new study it has been discovered that cats are dicks. Though I think any owner knew that. What science actually found out was that cats know the sound of their own names. Cats in the new study turned their heads and ears toward the sound of their names, but generally didn't bother to vocalize back or communicate using their tails. They also don’t bother coming or caring about your plight. From Inside Science, the findings came from a series of experiments using 16 to 34 cats in Japan. To get in the minds of their feline subjects, the researchers first made recordings of a human voice saying four common words with the same accent pattern and number of syllables as the cat's name, followed by the name itself. For example, a cat named Kari heard the words "hifu" (Japanese for skin) and "shuto" (Japanese for capital).

Most cats quickly became desensitized to the repeated words but would perk up and twitch their head when hearing their own names.

The researchers also tested what happened when the recording started with the names of other cats living in the same household. A few of the cats grew accustomed to the voice perked up again when they heard their name, indicating that they knew it was their own.

https://www.insidescience.org/news/scientists-confirm-cats-recognize-their-own-names

There are some really fucked up scientists in this world and this proves it. “New insights on the form and function of the dolphin clitoris” This month the world of science has discovered that female bottlenose dolphins have large and well-developed clitorises. The structure of dolphin clits suggests that i...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Shelley Helps Us Find A Dolphin's Down'Unda yes 1:07:38
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 231 - The One Where We Tear Down This Pay-Wall https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-231/ Fri, 12 Apr 2019 13:00:57 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36875 In This Week’s Show, episode 231, we reshow the show that didn’t show. In This Week’s Show, episode 231, we reshow the show that didn’t show.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Linus (the Greek personification of dirges and lamentations) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if you were paid a nickel every time a blue whale is born, in one year’s time you would realize you have a very poor paying job in a career that makes no sense.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Passover (which is occurring the weekend of this show’s release) is the most widely celebrated Jewish holiday?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

From 230

Goliath Imperial Stout - White Elm Brewing Company Lincoln, NE

Donated By: Brendon

BA Link: http://bit.ly/2uiZFOF

BA Rating: 4.13

Style: Imperial Stout

ABV: 12%


* Aaron: 5
* Jenn: 5
* Shea: 1
* Steve: 3


Round Two


* Aaron: 3
* Jenn: 4
* Shea: 1
* Steve: 3


Oakspire Bourbon Barrel Ale - New Belgium Ft. Collins, CO

Donated By: Steve J

BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/192/355616/

BA Rating: 3.81

Style: American Strong Ale

ABV: 9%


* Aaron: 6
* Jenn: The Beast is Worse
* Shea: 2
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

We’ve got Patrons!


* Colin
* Samantha


High on my must-listen list

by wubwub on

RATING: ★★★★★

Love the guys and gal and their irreverent take on headlines. Wish I had friends as good as these.

We got prezzies!

And we’ve got updates!
‘Smallville’ Actress Allison Mack Pleads Guilty in Sex Cult Case - Variety

https://apple.news/A6rRpVdVVR1qVpt8ilOndsw

Everyone's Agnostic!

Not only is Jenn back on our show this week she's also the guest of the week on the episode of Everyone's Agnostic airing Sunday. So head over to http://www.everyonesagnostic.com

Headlines

HL1 - All Natural...ish.

Story: http://bit.ly/2TJfVTm

FDA: http://bit.ly/2TLYn8T

This story comes to us care of Alex at the American Council on Science and Health’s news page.

Apparently, you can make Leopard Honey.

Because "nature" means safe and "untested by the FDA" means the man and Big ... Food safety... aren't going to be up in your dick.

According to Leopard Honey, a packet of their "Miracle Honey" - coming in 12 packs, each about an ounce - will:


* Eliminates impotence and infertility
* Enhances nutrient absorption and metabolism
* It's rich in proteins, amino acids ... so ... proteins, vitamins, digestive and metabolic enzymes
* Supports the immune system *
* It’sanislant energy sourc* (direct copy and paste)
* Intensifies the body's muscular increase


That's a fucking lot of stuff for some honey packets to do! Especially when each one is barely enough to sweeten my tea.

I like honey. Fucking hate bees though.

So what's in Miracle Honey?

1st, of course, you're going to need Pure Flower honey. The kind from bees. Bees who are, in fact, terrible hate drones.

You'll need a dash of Tongkat Ali root.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Tear Down This Pay-Wall yes 1:09:39
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 230 - The One Where The Got The Better Of The Techies https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-230/ Fri, 05 Apr 2019 13:00:20 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36872 In This Week’s Show, episode 230, properly fucked up the record, so enjoy most the show! In This Week’s Show, episode 230, properly fucked up the record, so enjoy most the show!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Otunairanga (the Maori guardian of palms and flax) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson
This week I learned about seagulls, they are just pigeons possessed by demons, the average seagull is three stories wide, they feed on chips and children's fear, and they can fuck right off.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson
Did you know that bones found on Seymour Island indicate that, about 37-40 million years ago, penguins stood about 6ft tall and weighed around 250lbs?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

#MyLastShot


* https://www.mylastshot.org 
* https://cnn.it/2TObAOH
* http://bit.ly/2TPjo2C
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd_Jr. (man dragged behind a truck in Texas by white supremacists) mentioned in the story by Steve
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kendrick_Johnson (boy found dead in a rolled-up mat in Valdosta, GA) mentioned in the story by Jenn
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallahassee_shooting Yoga studio shooting mentioned by Jenn
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings Elliot Roger, Isla Vista Killings


New Zealand’s recent shooting inspired responsible gun law changes in less than a week. Sadly, school shootings here are as American as Apple Pie…

Side note, Apple Pie’s Americanness was likely engrained during the second world war. Soldiers when asked why they enlisted, would commonly reply “for mom and apple pie.” The actual origins of Apple Pie go back to 1381 in England; an apple pie recipe was printed by Geoffrey Chaucer and included apples, figs, raisins, pears, and a pastry shell but no sugar.

Anyway, school shootings.

Recently in Delaware, there was a school lockdown that was, frankly, a shit show. "So my kids (sic) school had a genuine lockdown today," wrote Shelley Reed, mother of a 7-year-old at the school, "some whack job called in a bomb threat. Police came and everything was fine, Thank God!" All was fine, but after the event, Shelley noticed markings on her daughter's arm. Looking closer she saw, hastily written in purple Crayola marker, was “Love Mom and Dad.” When asked why the 7-year-old - just gonna keep saying that - the 7-year-old said: "in case the bad guy got to us and I got killed, you and daddy would know that I love you."

And that’s the reality of schools and childhood in America.

Fast forward to modern Columbine and nearly 20 years after the mass shooting, it’s still affecting the students. Students who, by the way, hadn’t even been born when the shooting took place. Most of the attention comes from shitty, shitty people treating the school as a tourist location. So shitty…

The more important attention is from current Columbine students. Kaylee Tyner, 17, told CNN that she was inspired by Emmett Till’s death and legacy when she began #MyLastShot.

For those unaware, very briefly, Emmit Till was lynched in August of 1955 for purportedly flirting with a white woman. A few days after the interaction two men, bristling with guns, forced their way in Till’s uncle’s home, abducted, beat, mutilated, and murdered the boy. Dumping his body in the Tallahatchie River. Those accused of his murder were acquitted after a seedy-as-fuck Mississippi trial and,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where The Got The Better Of The Techies yes 54:22
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 229 - The One Where Steve Fights A Yeti With His Veggie-Type — It's Super Effective! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-229/ Fri, 29 Mar 2019 13:00:58 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36847 In This Week’s Show, episode 229, we get our dogs stoned so they can ride angry whales into battle with time traveling Iraqi dinosaurs! In This Week’s Show, episode 229, we get our dogs stoned so they can ride angry whales into battle with time traveling Iraqi dinosaurs!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ori (or-I), the god-like jerks who founded Origin, haven’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that a blue whale is so large that if it were to be laid on a basketball court the game would be canceled.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

No reviews, No Jenn

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Framboise Du Nord - August Schell Brewery, New Ulm, MN

From: Jaded Zappa

BA Link: http://bit.ly/2Yd9pHP

BA Rating: 4.09

Style: Berliner Weisse

ABV: 3.7%


* Aaron: 9
* Shea: 10
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Kinda fuck all… No new patrons will check for reviews… and Jenn isn’t here.

Also, there be show winds a’blowing … and I don’t mean Steve. No real teasers yet, but a question. If you could tell us to cover a topic, any topic at all regardless of subject, timeliness, or truthiness, what would it be?

WyoAIDS tickets!

We’ll have a few tickets to give away so leave us a 30 second to 1 min voicemail at 513-760-0463 about why WyoAIDS is great and you’re in! Also, we’ll love you for it.

Headlines

Whale, fuck!

http://bit.ly/2YuhpEF

Not quite the story of Jonah and the whale but at least this is true. South African dive tour operator Rainer Schimpf was nearly swallowed by a whale after he was mistakenly swept into its jaws during a sardine feeding frenzy last month. First, I want to take a second to admire Rainer’s last name… Schimpf… sounds like shrimp, maybe he has it coming. The 51-year-old was snorkeling near Port Elizabeth Harbour, on the eastern coast of South Africa, when a series of photos captured him being sucked headfirst into a Bryde’s whale’s mouth. These are moderately sized whales apparently but are still 45 feet long.

“There was no time for fear or any emotion,” he told The Telegraph. “I knew instantly what had happened. I knew that a whale had come and taken me and I instinctively held my breath, assuming that it would dive down again and spit me out somewhere in the depths of the Indian Ocean.”

Little Schimpfy was lucky, Bryde’s whales are known to dive for up to 15 minutes and up to 1000 feet deep, after being swallowed the whale released his jaws allowing him to escape. A passing photographer witnessed the scene from a nearby boat and immediately began snapping away, capturing everything but Schimpf’s legs vanishing inside the whale.

“Whales are no man-eaters,” witness Claudia Weber-Gebert told Barcroft Animals in an interview. “This was no attack. It was no fault of the whale. They are really sensitive, they are gentle giants, and it was just an accident.”

Or so you think Claudia… that's how it all starts.

“It was an interesting experience for me but surely nothing I’d like to do again,” he told Barcroft Animals. “I don’t think I had a whale of a time, but I now have the inside knowledge of a whale which nobody else has.”

It Ain't Easy Be’n No Cheesy


* http://bit.ly/2YwB5HU
* http://bit.ly/2TJkVHw


As I’ve mentioned several times in the past, my daughter is a vegan or was anyway. As it turns out, it’s not an easy life choice to maintain. She, like many others, have moved away from veganism to vegetarianism. Her reasoning is pretty pure for a teenager. She was missing pizza and a having a wide variety of ice cream flavors,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Steve Fights A Yeti With His Veggie-Type — It's Super Effective! yes 1:02:52
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 228 - The One Where We Drag Out Our Inner Irish Queens! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-228/ Fri, 22 Mar 2019 13:00:19 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36837 In This Week’s Show, episode 228, it’s time to bone up on our Irish folklore and see if we can drive all the tube-snakes out of Colorado’s new favorite beer. In This Week’s Show, episode 228, it’s time to bone up on our Irish folklore and see if we can drive all the tube-snakes out of Colorado’s new favorite beer.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while whatever struck Jenn down hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying its patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that many medical scientists are on the autism spectrum, therefore autism causes vaccines.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

She’s dead Jim...must be the Irish potato famine!

Jim’s Good Gay News

When Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar and his partner Matthew Barrett (yes, they’re gay!) were in Washington this week on a diplomatic visit to the US, they had breakfast at Vice President Mike Pence’s residence in honor of St Patrick’s Day. Varadkar threw some shade at Pence by saying “I stand here as the leader of my country. Flawed and human, but judged by my political actions, not by my sexual orientation, my skin tone, gender, or religious beliefs.” He added, “We are, after all, all God’s children.” Karen “Mother” Pence was out of the country, but don’t worry. Pence’s sister Anne was there to make sure Pence didn’t accidentally sleep with the gays either because apparently, zealots can’t control their sexual urges when eating without a chaperone present. http://bit.ly/2YeNgJe

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Lucky Bucket Brewing Co.- Tropic Wonder (Mango and habanero)

Donated by Brenden


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2u6olcP
* BA Rating: 3.41/5
* Style: American Blonde Ale
* ABV: 4.00
* Aaron: Oh feck meh! (7)
* Jim: No fucking way (4)
* Shea: 10
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New patrons - Dylan and Swytchie (switchie)

Also, it’s St. Paddy’s Day! We’re drinking green beer and Guinness… which is also a beer I guess, but solidly ungreenable.

Also, Jim’s here with a special announcement for Drag Queen Bingo! They’re doing VIP tables this year and because we’re fancy bitches, we’re getting one… but they’re 10-tops and we don’t have that many +1’s, so we’re giving away a handful of tickets!


If you’re 100% sure you can make it to Laramie Wyoming’s Hilton Garden Inn Ballroom on April 27th, call in at 513-760-0463 and leave us your best 30 seconds to 1-minute plug for Wyoming AIDS Assistance! We’ll give the best X entrants free tickets, beer, and use your promos on our show and any others to raise money! Super win-win!


Headlines Hotshots

90 Minute Quicky!

C-net and a few other places are reporting on the newest trend from GoPro… or someone who wishes. they were GoPro.

I suppose, looking to create the ultimate selfie-stick, UK company Julz has created the “cock cam” a cock-ring complete with a dangling 1080P, night vision enabled, camera that for the low price of $160 will: capture your climax” in the grossest possible way…

The company makes no qualms about the fact that it’s a cock-camera-ring say “yes, it’s a cock-camera ring.” To demo the technology they got a dildo stuck to a base jumper’s head and had him jump off a clip. Because that’s kinda like how sex works. I’m sure to put your worries to ease when I say that the camera is standards compliant, recording H,264 in MP4 at 1080P for up to 90 minutes… because the good folks at Julz have high expectations of you. "When filming for long periods of time the camera runs warm," Julz cautions. "The product is safe to use. If the Cock Cam becomes uncomfortable please stop using and contact our team." Which is a great way of saying “batteries heat up and we’d really like you to not blow your dick off.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Drag Out Our Inner Irish Queens! yes 1:04:34
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 227 - The One Where We Verify Your Age Before Sex'n Your Mom https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-227/ Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:00:40 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36825 In This Week’s Show, episode 227, I’m back so we’re gonna talk about lots of sex and weird stuff. In This Week’s Show, episode 227, I’m back so we’re gonna talk about lots of sex and weird stuff.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Brighid (the Irish hearth goddess) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that gay sex is literally twice as manly as straight sex.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

The Great Whiskey Fire of Dublin killed 13 people in 1875. No one actually died as a result of smoke inhalation or burns. They all died of alcohol poisoning by drinking the whiskey flowing through the streets.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Schwartzbier: a collaboration of Deschutes & Bell’s brewery

From RW


BA Link: http://bit.ly/2tUITFa
BA Rating: 4.04/5
Style: Dark Lager
ABV: 6%
Aaron: 6
Jenn: 7
Shea: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

4MB’s Sunday, Bloody Sunday! So join us for a GREEN BEER!

RW’s prezzies!

Headlines!

There really is an App for everything…


http://bit.ly/2TC1B3H



There are a lot of gaps. Thigh gaps. Wage gaps. And where our ven-App and lady-gap overlap… the orgasm gap! Canada’s National Film Board started to do some research into the orgasm-gap and found a 2014 study that showed that when having sex with a new partner, roughly 85% of men got their cookies, but only 62% of women were so lucky. That number grew a mear 13% when studying lesbians.

Apparently realizing the low cinematographic quality of bored, underwhelmed ladies, the Film board began development of a mobile phone game. “It might be because the clitoris is not sort of well-known,” said Maude Fraser of the o-gap, “so what we’re saying to close that orgasm gap is [the game] Clit-me.” When launched the game begins with a video introducing the player to the anatomy of the clitoris - represented in the game as a cartoon octopus-like avatar based on 2015’s first-ever 3D model of the clit. “We learned a lot of stuff because the clitoris doesn’t actually look like what we think it looks like,” said Fraser, noting that players begin by customizing their avatar because “every clitoris is unique.”

Players use their fingers to make “tactile movements” on the screen aiming to score points by “satisfying” your clit-o-puss. If you have the phalangeal-dexterity to make it to level 5, you’ll be faced with the most terrifying beast cryptozoology hasn’t found, the female orgasm. “We want to bring awareness to that body part,” Fraser said. “Embrace your clitoris and learn about it and care about it.” So if you want your own Tamacoochi visit https://nfb.ca/clitme 

There’s Also An App For Porn

No, this isn’t another headline where I’m gonna tell you about PornHub. It’s a headline about keeping the Queen from watching you watch PornHub.


http://bit.ly/2TC1Bkd
http://bit.ly/2uaiKlQ


Private Internet Access: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/buy-vpn/w4w

Yes, it’s an affiliate link but we use this service and wouldn’t suggest it if it sucked. It’s pretty simple to use, cheap, and fast. I’m not necessarily suggesting putting all your traffic through it, but you could.

~ Aaron

Since 2015 we’ve been … reporting … on the UK’s efforts to impose legal restrictions on accessing internet porn. And in a 2017 bill, the UK has done-kinda, just-ish, that-mostly. The 2017 Digital Economy Act includes a set of strict new rules that among other things require one to obtain a porn-pass from a local newsstand who can card ...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Verify Your Age Before Sex'n Your Mom yes 1:06:38
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 226 - The One Where The Crew Decodes Aaron's Speak & Spell https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-226/ Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:00:32 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36817 In This Week’s Show, episode 226, Aaron only contributes this sesquipedalian introduction for Shea, so enjoy the schadenfreude of Steve’s floccinaucinihilipilification… In This Week’s Show, episode 226, Aaron only contributes this sesquipedalian introduction for Shea, so enjoy the schadenfreude of Steve’s floccinaucinihilipilification…

* Sesqui-pedalian (ses-kwi-pi-dey-lee-uh n) - characterized by the use of long words,
* Floccinaucinihilipilification (flok-suh-naw-suh-nahy-hil-ul-pil-uh-fi-key-shun n)- act or habit of estimating something as worthless… (mainly encountered as one of the longest words in English)


Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ceres (series)(the Roman counterpart of Demeter) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned you can't buy hot pockets, you can only buy cold pockets.you have to supply the heat yourself! Don't believe the lies.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know the first temple of Ceres at Rome was vowed by the dictator A. Postumius Albinus, in 496 BCE, for the purpose of averting a famine with which Rome was threatened during a war with the Latins? No word if JK Rowling sued him for naming rights.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

First of all, let's clear something up.
The band in the Cantina is called the Modal Nodes. But we're not VH1, so I'll just say they're fantastic Jizz players from Birth, who I assume, would also be pretty pissed at Chick-fil-a.
~A

Attila the Hen - Against The Grain Brewery & Smokehouse

Donated By: Jaded Zappa


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2T3j4BM
* BA Rating: 3.99/5
* Style: Rye Beer
* ABV: 12.7%
* Jenn: 3
* Shea: 1
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New patron Gerhard Roux

YAAAY NEW ITUNES REVIEW!!

I don’€™t even drink beer!

by RexTuesday on

RATING: ★★★★★

Despite a huge section of this show being devoted to beer reviews, I love every minute of it because of every members sense of humor and the wonderful dynamic between the hilarious hosts. Jenn’€™s still the best but I love all y’€™all!

Nice email from Robert Ray of the Original Motto project all the way from Antarctica! Glad you know have WiFi and it was great to hear from you.

Voicemail from Amanda!

Sorry, patrons, due to some scheduling difficulties we’re gonna be a little late with 4 More Beers, but I’ve brought a doctor’s note.

Headlines Hotshots

Moo Love


* http://bit.ly/2tUn2O2


Cows need love too. Launched last month, a new tool is helping farmers find love for their flock. The new app, called Tudder, directs you to a page on the SellMyLivestock website where they can browse more pictures and data about the animals before deciding whether to buy.

“Matching livestock online is even easier than it is to match humans because there’s a huge amount of data that sits behind these wonderful animals that predicts what their offspring will be,” said Doug Bairner, CEO of Hectare Agritech which runs SellMyLivestock.

Much like Tinder, the app shows a picture of the livestock, sorry clients, and farmers can use their phones to swipe right for yes and left for no. Provided is even valuable information on matters like milk yield and protein content, or calving potential, much more thorough than its human equivalent.

A cattle farmer and Tudder user James Bridger said it eases transport stress for animals and may rival traditional markets.

“You’ve got all this data of its background and everything which if you’re at a market you might not have had the time to go through for every single random animal,]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 225 - The One Where We Dunk Gingersnaps In Our Beer! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-225/ Fri, 01 Mar 2019 14:00:00 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36791 In This Week’s Show, episode 225 we join a cult to snap some gingers but don’t worry, they don’t have souls or feelings like real people… In This Week’s Show, episode 225 we join a cult to snap some gingers, but don’t worry, they don’t have souls or feelings like real people…
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Urika, Terry Pratchett’s Goddess of Snow, Saunas and Theatrical Performances for Fewer than 120 People hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that Adulthood was invented in 1410 by Peter J Adult when he realized that his whole body hurt but he still had to be alive for a while.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

She is dead… I think. All I know is it’s not our fault. Could be measles…?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Snow Beast Winter Ale - Kinkaider Brewing Co.

Donated By: Brendon


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2BbVoQC
* BA Rating: 3.99/5
* Style: Winter Warmer
* ABV: 6.1%
* Aaron: 4
* Shea: 2
* Steve: 2


Amy- Double Dunk- Prairie Artisan Ale - 2


* http://bit.ly/2TbabWT


William - Winter Storm ESB - Heavy Seas Beer - 6


* http://bit.ly/2T7St6L


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Joined by the Ginger Snaps, Amy & William

The Drunk Dial receiving sms messages has gone well, thanks for not making us regret that. Also, yes, there can be only one and I’m pretty sure Jesus is no Highlander.

Also we got some txt messages from offended cow lover Craig Defarmer

Also-also, as a reminder, we’ve seen a number of folks sign up for patreon and their cards either have never been charged or have been declining recently. We’re not sure if this is part of Patreon’s new Patron Relationship tool or whatever, but it’s probably a good time to check your cards, donation levels, etc.

Also, Lorraine, your stuff is edited and on the way, I’m sorry I suck.

Headlines Hotshots

Aaron's Dream Come True

http://bit.ly/2T58F8X

New hope for the French fencing federation. In a bid to appeal to younger generations the FFF has recognized lightsaber dueling as an official sport. In the past movies like Zorro and Robin hood have increased interest in the sport of fencing, hoping to keep this trend going and increase interest in the sport, star wars lightsaber battles are now sanctioned in France.

The new sport of lightsaber dueling has additional rules designed to improve its aesthetic appeal. For example, the point of the lightsaber needs to reach behind each fighter before they attempt a hit. The intention is to make fights consist of large sweeping motions rather than the quick stabs of the blade you see in other forms of fencing. Much like fencing points are awarded depending on where the blade makes contact (hitting the head or body gets you five points, arms or legs gets you three, and hands gets you just one), and the first person to 15 points wins. If the match isn’t over after three minutes, then the person with the highest score automatically wins.

And because magnetically-contained plasma swords are still out of our reach combatants to use an illuminated “blade” made of polycarbonate and fight in a darkened arena.

“With young people today, it’s a real public health issue,” Serge Aubailly, the federation’s secretary general, told the Associated Press. “It’s becoming difficult to [persuade them to] do a sport that has no connection with getting out of the sofa and playing with one’s thumbs. That is why we are trying to create a bond between our discipline and modern technologies, so participating in a sport feels natural.”

The International Fencing Federation,]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 224 - The One Where We Sail The Icy Less-Than-Great Lakes - Patreon https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-224/ Fri, 22 Feb 2019 14:00:28 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36779 In This Week’s Show, Episode 224, we jack a bunch of ice water to cool our apparently ultra-many, uncontrollable, lust-beer. It’s a sour. In This Week’s Show, Episode 224, we jack a bunch of ice water to cool our apparently ultra-manly, uncontrollable, lust-beer. It’s a sour.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Cardea, The Roman Goddess Of Door Hinges hasn't struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if you have a friend, coworker, or acquaintance who is acting strange, you need to reach out. Ask if they are really Scott Bakula, trying to change history for the better.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

After Cardea was forced to sleep with the god Janus, Janus declared, “In return for our dalliance, be thine the control of hinges.” Then he gave her a magical hawthorn branch that repelled evil and declared that people must eat beans and pork in her honor every June 1. Women love pork and beans!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Matame Ahorita - Anchorage Brewing Company

Donated By: Jaded Zappa
BA Link: http://bit.ly/2BaxTHM


* BA Rating: 4.0
* Style: American Wild Ale
* ABV: 6.5%
* Aaron: 8
* Shea: 10
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

As you’ve likely noticed by now, the great and lovely Jenn isn’t with us today. She decided that Mr. Jenn was her priority so… shit. Oh well. We know where we place and it’s fine. Really. It's FINE!

Round Table Discussion

Follow up-You may remember our mentions of David and Collet Stephan who allowed their son to die of meningitis after “treating” him with naturopathic horseshit. They were convicted of the child’s death, but the conviction was overturned on a technicality and now they’re scheduled to be heard by the Canadian Supreme Court. The good news is that they are buried in debt from the previous trials and asked the government to provide them with 4 million dollars (Canadian, of course, so like $3.50 real-money) for the supreme court case. The judge said no and gave them nothing. So, fuck them, fuck their continuous conspiracy theories, and fuck their stupid anti-science beliefs.

http://bit.ly/2BMY47E

VM from Mr. Biblepants!

Headlines

Teens sneak out for shots http://bit.ly/2BMce95

In a strange turn of events teens across the globe are sneaking out and taking shots against their parents' wishes. These aren't the alcoholic shots we took as kids these are the shots our parents made us get before we got polio or measles. One Ohio teen, Ethan Lindenberger, celebrated his 18th birthday by getting inoculated for MMR, chickenpox, polio, influenza, HPV, tetanus, hepatitis A and hepatitis B. 8 shots was way more than I could handle when I turned 18. Like many anti-vaxxer parents, Lindenberger's family believes immunizations can be harmful to children and even cause brain damage. However, Lindenberger started questioning his parents' decision after conducting his own research.

“I was very vocal about vaccines, and I expressed a lot of problems with her logic for a couple of years now.” He first began questioning his mom's views after seeing her ripped apart by intelligent people on Facebook. Ethan decided to take control of his health after a friend reminded him that he could finally, legally, get the vaccines now that he was 18. In a millennial move that is becoming increasingly warranted Ethan turned to the internet for help. In a post on Reddit r/nostupidquestions, he posted “My parents are kind of stupid and don’t believe in vaccinations. Now that I’m 18, where do I go to get vaccinated? Can I get vaccinated at my age?”

The post went viral with a mix of positive and negative feedback but finally propelled Ethan to take the shots. After telling his parents his father was supportive and told Ethan ...]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 223 - The One Where We Celebrate S.A.D. With German Salami... https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-223/ Fri, 15 Feb 2019 14:00:28 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36770 In This Week’s Show, episode 223, we celebrate singles day by talking about love, happiness, and how none of those things are for you. In This Week’s Show, episode 223, we celebrate singles day by talking about love, happiness, and how none of those things are for you.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Vulcan, the Roman god of fire, the forge and pon farr, hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if you die during an orgasm, you're coming and going at the same time.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that the oldest known written valentine still in existence today was a poem written in 1415 by Charles, Duke of Orleans, to his wife while he was imprisoned in the Tower of London?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Trigo by Founders Brewing Company

Donated By: RW


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2BavbSP
* BA Rating: 3.89/5
* Style: American Lager
* ABV: 6.3%
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 7
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 8


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Voicemail

Jessie from Jersey!

Guesting!

Jenn was on Everyone’s Agnostic today!

It will be airing March 31st so look out for that!

Steve and Aaron were on Beyond The Trailer Park on Monday, it was a live show but the recording is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYPKfo-Hlyw Enjoy!

Happy Valentine’s Day patrons, happy discount candy day everyone else!

Headlines Hotshots

German Single’s Day

http://bit.ly/2RU4lnz

No, the story isn’t about some anti-Valentinian nonsense, I saved that for the Patrons. Though, this story may be of note to them…

It turns out that you can jack-off to death.

A new study of German sex and death, because Germany is a fun place, found that masturbation kills about 100 Germans a year. Also, the study was kinda specific, so we’re gonna make fun of weird sex stuff, but remember, it’s not ok to kink-shame… unless by the end of the night someone finds a body, then… you know… what the fuck!

The study revealed that one man died wearing pantyhose… ok… a raincoat, getting weirder, and a diving suit, as well as a plastic bag over his head… while sitting next to a heater trying to melt cheese slices on himself… with porn. So yeah, all you cheddar-scuba-coat-bag-ophiles need to take extra precautions.

Also of note, the lethal side effects of using Christmas lights as nipple-electro-clamps… That’ll cause all kinds of cardiac-arrhythmia, so just don’t.

About 80% of the deaths were due to strangle-jacking it. Apparently passing out just after you’re done is the trick… ‘cause… I guess if you passed out first you’re just awkwardly strangling yourself and if you don’t pass out you… umm…

Apparently, 1 or 2 in every 1 million Germans will die of their dildos or other “props.” Which is why you want to have a professional set designer do your lighting, I mean really…

If you’re wondering about demographics… you’re stupid… but also almost certainly correct in your initial assumption that of course, victims are usually men, since women were “more cautious and don't incorporate so many intricacies.” So there ya have it, I know it’s sexy-time holiday and all, but please keep in mind that Rube Goldberging your dick off can be fatal.

Shea - Canada hates women and Non-Patreons! So check out http://patreon.com/w4w for this story, right now!

https://read.bi/2S3MgU2

In a strange twist, Saudi Arabia has brought up strange allegations involving Canada's treatment of women. It highlighted the disappearance of 1,000 indigenous women over the last hundred years and failed to mention how their women still fight for ...]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 222 - The One Where We Have A Glut Of Good News & Worms! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-222/ Fri, 08 Feb 2019 14:00:33 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36747 In This Week’s Show, episode 222, something something superbowl, something fuck you maroon 5, something something Tom Brady sucks. In This Week’s Show, episode 222, something something superbowl, something fuck you maroon 5, something something Tom Brady sucks.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Mimir (the Aesir of wisdom for the Norse) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that the W in Islam stands for women's rights. And Aaron learned that Bud Light doesn’t have corn syrup in their shitty rice beer.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that many of the Norse supernatural gang became too dependent and/or informed on Mimir’s wise advice for Odin’s liking? To combat this issue the Allfather had him beheaded, smeared it with preservation herbs, gave it the ability to speak and kept Mimir’s secrets and council all to himself.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Half Pipe Sour Pale Ale by Tallgrass Brewing Co.

Donated By: Steve E for Shea


* UT Link: http://bit.ly/2Bej1Iv
* UnTapped Rating: 3.57
* Style: Sour Pale Ale
* ABV: 5%
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 3
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patrons! Jason and Paige.

Voicemail: Follow up from Amanda - we’re glad everything more or less worked out!

Voicemail from Travis

Headlines Hotshots

HL1 - Measles Headline from 221

Disease of the stupid

http://bit.ly/2WOo4IY

Finally, to round out my good news headlines with more dumbassery. Washington state officials declared a public health emergency due to an outbreak of measles in an anti-vax hot spot. Clark County, which is just across the Columbia River from Portland, OR, has now recorded 31 confirmed cases of the easily preventable disease. Shockingly, at least 20 of those infected were not vaccinated. This area has an estimated 7% of students with exemptions from compulsory vaccinations due to personal or religious reasons.

This is a topic that I continually rail about since it is based on nothing but willful ignorance and stupid beliefs (see my earlier story). As recently as the year 2000, measles was declared eliminated in the U.S. after there was no continuous transmission of it for over a year. Now, fuck wits are bringing it back and risking the lives of people who cannot be vaccinated due to actual medical issues.

As bad as it is in Oregon and Washington, they’re not alone. New York is also dealing with at least 182 cases with the outbreak almost exclusively among the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community. Last year, there were 349 cases across 26 states which is the highest number since 2000. There have been 667 cases since 2014.

Measles is so nasty, that 90% of people who are not immune who just are near an infected person will become infected. This is no joke. It’s nasty, it’s virulent, and most importantly, easily prevented. Don’t be a dipshit. Vaccinate.

 

HL2 - It’s Story Time Kids!

http://bit.ly/2SD9zZ2

James “Doc” according to … probably himself… Greene was arrested this week at the Houston Library. James is banned from the Library for filming kids, being an asshole, and oh yeah, carrying a gun into the Library. He has a conceal-carry of course, but it’s a no go at the Library, especially during a children’s even like Drag Queen Story Time.

Greene flashed a badge in an attempt to claim that he’s a member of the media - because that’s now media-stuff works. “We have a bunch of homosexuals that are molesting children,” he says. “They are doing it with your help.”

When we refused to GTFO, the cops arrested him and,]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 221 - The One Where 9 Ninjas Hide In The Cover Art and In Shame! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-221/ Fri, 01 Feb 2019 14:00:30 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36732 In This Week’s Show, episode 221, Dunning wipes up the Schmit's with Islam rolled papers and Kruger’s dog shits in Japan’s headphones. In This Week’s Show, episode 221, Dunning wipes up the schmit’s with Islam rolled papers and Kruger’s dog shits in Japan’s headphones.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Attar (the Arabian god of war and antelopes) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his

patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that after all this time the Titanic's pools are still filled.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that pronghorns are neither antelopes nor deer? It is the sole surviving member of an ancient family dating back 20 million years. The pronghorn is the only animal in the world with branched horns (not antlers) and the only animal in the world to shed its horns, as if they were antlers.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Beer - Pineapple Mana from Maui Brewing Co.

Donated by: Steve-E


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2BLXHcC
* BA Rating: 3.54
* Style: American Pale Wheat Ale
* ABV: 5.5
* Aaron: 6
* Jenn: 4
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New patron fatgirlballet!

Thanks to Dave for getting the Hemingway trout recipe to us. It involves bacon, but sadly no whiskey or shotguns.


* Fresh cleaned trout (I cut the heads off, I hate to have my food stare back at me)
* Season with salt and pepper inside and out
* Roll the outside in cornmeal
* Wrap the seasoned and cornmealled trout with 2 or 3 strips (rashers if you are Canadian)
* Fry in a bit of bacon fat until the bacon is cooked.
* Thin strips of bacon works best if you like your bacon more crispy than chewy.
* If you try it please let me know what you think.


Also, Dave has been to Gillette Wy., and yes, Gillette is where dreams go to die.

Headlines

Shocking new info-NOT!

“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wise people so full of doubts.” - Bertrand Russell

The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where people believe that they are smarter and more capable than they actually are, meaning that some low skill people lack the ability to recognize their own incompetence leading them to overestimate their own capabilities. This often leads to what I call, “talking out of your ass.”

The reason I’m going on about this is a recent study in the journal Nature which found that extreme opponents of genetically modified food know the least about genetic engineering, but think they know the most. The lead author of the study, Phil Fernbach, said, “Extreme views often stem from people feeling they understand complex topics better than they do.” Fernbach said that the results, while “perverse,” are “consistent with previous research on the psychology of extremism.”

In the study, they asked participants how much they oppose genetic modification of food, and over 90% of the people had some level of opposition. They were then asked to rate their knowledge of genetic modification via a short test of true-false questions, the results of which led the study’s authors to say, “As extremity of opposition to GM foods increased, objective knowledge of science and genetics decreased, but self-assessed knowledge increased. They went on to say: Those with the strongest anti-consensus views are the most in need of education, but also the least likely to be receptive to learning; overconfidence about one’s knowledge is associated with decreased openness to new information.” His team’s findings held across education levels, and for people on both sides of the political aisle.

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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 220 - The One Where We Sacrifice Jenn To A Deamon... Dialer. https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-220/ Fri, 25 Jan 2019 14:00:18 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36721 In This Week’s Show, episode 220, we robo-dial Jim Baker to ask about serving Prayer-see, Sage, Rosemary, & Thyme slop at the next showing of Hamilton. In This Week’s Show, episode 220, we robo-dial Jim Baker to ask about serving Prayer-see, Sage, Rosemary, & Thyme slop at the next showing of Hamilton.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Sheela Na Gigs the Irish "old hag of the breasts" hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week i learned that gender is just a scam invented by the bathroom companies in the 60’s to sell more bathrooms.



Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know Sheela Na Gigs is depicted as a woman with an exposed and exaggerated vulva? Popular myths claim she was a lustful pagan goddess who threw herself at men by showing them her `lady parts,’ which most refused, but for the few who threw her a bone, she would transform into a beautiful young woman and make them kings.

Also, you could park a car in there…

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Donated by: RW

Beer - Jubelale from Deschutes


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2QSBN1P
* BA Rating: 3.9/5
* Style: Winter Ale
* ABV: 6.7
* Aaron: 5
* Shea: 3
* Steve: 2


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New patron Ryan (Gosling mmmm…~Jenn)

iTunes review from plantainechip in Belgium from December 23. I can’t access it.

Title: Love this podcast

From: platainechip

Country: Belgium

Definitely one of my favorites. Whenever these guys upload an episode my day is made. I love that w4w is funny as hell but can be serious when they need to be. No matter what episode you choose to listen too I guarantee you will have a great time.

We also got a review from some guy named Tom and his buddy Cecil - See CogDis for that!

And you want to buy Jim or WyoAIDS some aloe vera for that burn, visit WyoAIDS.org and make a donation to help Wyomingites in need.

Voicemails! from the Napkin Pope!

Amanda, we’re sorry we’ll miss you at Drag Queen Bingo too! If you, or anyone else, does want to make the event it’s April 27th. And if you’re boyfriend manages to make it, we’ll very much buy him a beer because of Jesus-fucking-Christ… Be safe, be strong, you can do it!

Thanks to Jesse for using his birthday FB fundraiser for WyoAids. Check our FB page if you would like to celebrate it with him. It’ll be up for a week after this airing and it’s pinned at the top of our page.

And finally, a bit of follow up: Dine and dash asshole Paul Guadalupe Gonzales, whom you may remember from our story in Episode 201, pleaded no contest in November to three counts of defrauding an innkeeper and one of petty-theft. He is now serving a 120-day sentence in jail, followed by three years of probation, barred from dating sites, paying of restitution and had to stay 100 yards away from five restaurants. Fuck him.

Hotshots

Shea- A new product at Costco has Jim Bakker worried about his bottom line.

http://bit.ly/2W6083b

Costco the bulk warehouse superstore has recently been selling 27 pound Mac and cheese buckets that reportedly keep for 20 years. At $89.99, you get 180 servings of Chef’s Banquet Macaroni & Cheese, which the company says will remain edible for up to 20 years. That means you could still be enjoying this macaroni and cheese long after the great Cheeto ends the world. Unfortunately at the time of writing the powdered gold is currently on back order. Reviews on Costco's website are mostly good with one reviewer serving a whole bucket of Mac and cheese at his wedding. The one major complaint is from an American grandfather upset that it only comes in 25lbs and nothing larger for his grandson.]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 219 - The One Where Andi Travels The World-Disk To Do Our Hair! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-219/ Fri, 18 Jan 2019 14:00:17 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36710 In This Week’s Show, episode 219, we’re joined by the lovely Andi of ReasonCon3 to set sail on a magical, wish-granting, racist boat… but at least it has free beer? In This Week’s Show, episode 219, we’re joined by the lovely Andi of ReasonCon3 to set sail on a magical, wish granting, racist boat… but at least it has free beer?
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Silenus (the head satyr in Dionysus’ retinue) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Last we heard from the Yeti he was frolicking on Spaceship Earth in Epcot.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know Silenus is often pictured drunkenly riding a donkey? He had a temple in Elis where the personification of drunkenness, Methe, is handing his statue a glass of wine.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Beer - Blacksmith from Village Brewing

Donated: DodSno


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2QSFvbS
* BA Rating: 3.55
* Style: American Black Ale
* ABV: 5.4
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 9
* Steve: 9


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

We’re joined by Andi!

Voicemail from Charles

I just listened to your show where you sampled Bell’s 2 Hearted ale. The name and label give a nod to Hemingway’s Story and the actual river in the upper peninsula of Michigan famous for its trout. I have actually fished the river and followed the recipe for Hemmingway’s trout.

~ Dave

Finally, we have a very special birthday happening on the date of airing.

HotShots

Let’s Sail The 7 Sees… Wait.

http://bit.ly/2QEa9Rn

Flat Earthers are at it again. This time, it’s a feet usually reserved for sassy sailors and 80-year-old singles. That’s right, it’s the 2020 Flat-Earth Cruise! Billed as their “biggest, boldest, best adventure yet!” The article kind of made it sound like “rapper” B.o.B. and Tila Tequila will be there too… for… celebrity… I guess. Oh, and did we mention that “ships navigate based on the principle that the Earth is round,” said Henk Keijer, a former cruise ship captain. “Nautical charts are designed with that in mind: that the Earth is round.” Keiher, now a forensic marine expert for Robson Forensic cited the 24 satellites orbiting Earth that provide the ship - and the rest of us - with GPS data. As the name implies, the process of triangulation used by GPS satellites to determine your location requires three points of reference to do so, so, “had the Earth been flat, a total of three satellites would have been enough to provide this information to everyone on Earth. But it is not enough, because the Earth is round.” The group wants to avoid the implications of… facts… by staffing the ship with Flat-Earthers, unfortunately, “I have sailed 2 million miles, give or take,” Keijer says, “I have not encountered one sea captain who believes the Earth is flat.”

Jenn’s Wishes Granted!

http://bit.ly/2QJ7tlo

Astute listeners will recall a comment Jenn made last week wishing she had the super-cool mutant power of “never hearing the men in her life.” Well, good news everyone! In what I can only assume is a breakthrough for women everywhere, a Chinese woman identified as Ms. Chen awoke this week able to hear her surroundings and female friends, but not her boyfriend. She rushed to Qianpu hospital where a female doctor, Dr. Lin Xiaoqing analyzed for reproduction… I mean… for curing, her condition. "She was able to hear me when I spoke to her, but when a young male patient walked in, she couldn't hear him at all." The night before Chen had suffered from a nauseating ringing in her ears, but the article doesn’t say what her boyfriend was on about… or what his name is. Doctors were initially puzzled by the symptoms, but once the doctor-dude-bros left the room the diagnosis of “reverse-slope hearing loss” was...]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 218 - The One Where We Welcome You To 2019 With Extra Digression! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-218/ Fri, 11 Jan 2019 14:00:06 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36700 In This Week’s Show, episode 218, we’re back, it’s a new year and a new show, stick around to find out if it’ll be the same ol’bullshit. Spoiler alert, it’s a story show so… In This Week’s Show, episode 218, we’re back, it’s a new year and a new show, stick around to find out if it’ll be the same ol’bullshit. Spoiler alert, it’s a story show so…
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Shekhina (the original mother goddess of Judaism) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that, even though we take it for granted, a single dorito has more extreme nacho flavor than peasants in the 1400’s would get in their whole life time.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that, at its conception, Judaism had a goddess counterpart to Yahweh? Shekhina was the compassionate, loving, visible and protective spiritual presence who defended humanity from the harsh and angry male Jehovah God.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Two-Hearted Ale - Bell’s Brewery Steve E.

Donated By: Steve E. (Thank you DodSno for verifying that for us on the last 4MBS)


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2BM96cH
BA Rating: 4.27
* Style: American IPA
* ABV: 7%
* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 8
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 6


Bonus Beer

Loney Wyoming’s Crowler

Atlantic City Gold - Lander Brewing Co.


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2D3GKfR
* BA Rating: 3.36/5
* Style:  German Kölsch
* ABV: 4.6%
* Seems to have an off flavor…


This Week’s Show

A Very Special Round Table Discussion

Happy 2019!

Patrons


* Newest beer club member Lorraine!
* And new patron Gwyneira Brahma! (good luck with that one, Aaron)
* And a big ‘welcome back’ to patron Rex Tuesday.
* Correction vm from George about Michigan State & Larry Nasshole, thanks George!
* Christmas vm from Dav and Reb
* Drunk dial from Phil


And now presents!!

First Half

Hotshots

Funny X-mas story by Boston Guy.

Shea will love this… I say we just let him speak for himself.

http://bit.ly/2D3GKMT

What Does 2019 Have In Store For Us?

Jemima Packington, the world’s foremost … and only … Asparamancer has again used her gifts to benefit us all by revealing what 2019 has in store. In the past, she’s “correctly” according to Express.co.uk, Brexit, the Trump administration, some football match victories, and even managed to foresee a few losers in Big Brother Britain. When asked about her gifts, she said “when I cast the asparagus, it creates patterns and it is the patterns I interpret” concluding “I take what I do seriously but I never take myself seriously.” Which is good, because her business cards say “Asparamancer.” She says she’s mostly right “I go through my predictions each year and think: 'Yep, that's happened, yep, that's happened. ”I am usually about 80-90 percent accurate with my predictions.” So what does the asparagus see in our future? Apparently, Brexit won’t be a big deal… making her previous prediction a tease I guess? Also, there’s going to be a recession in America because of the trade war with China. Some British bands will break up, we don’t know which ones though. Maybe it’s the Beatles. They’re British. And England will win the 2019 Rugby World Cup. So that’s nice. Finally, 2019 might just be the year this woman’s family gets her the help she clearly needs…

http://bit.ly/2D3GLAr

Second Half

Story

Life goals are stupid and I’m done with them.

http://bit.ly/2D1Q583

Did anyone here make any New Year's Resolutions?
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Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Welcome You To 2019 With Extra Digression! yes 1:09:28
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 217 - The One Where We Have A Miller And Go All Year One https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-217/ Fri, 04 Jan 2019 14:00:05 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36687 Welcome to the New Years clip show! This is a look back at (roughly) our first year. Clips range from the early teens to around fifty. Thanks to everyone for listening and a special thanks to the Patrons for helping us unfuck the audio! Happy New Year all! Welcome to the New Years clip show! This is a look back at (roughly) our first year. Clips range from the early teens to around fifty. Thanks to everyone for listening & Happy New Year! Well... today if you want to look through the back catalog. All the show notes follow the same format, waiting4wrath.com/w4w-###, pop in the show number and there ya go. There's a search too I guess but it kinda sucks (which is why it's not long for the world, there be updates on the horizon!).




Welcome to the New Years clip show! This is a look back at (roughly) our first year. Clips range from the early teens to around fifty. Thanks to everyone for listening and a special thanks to the Patrons for helping us unfuck the audio! Happy New Year all!



From Episode 31, The Beast Grand Cru
Avery Brewing Company Colorado, United States
Beer DB: http://bit.ly/1KMUny0

BA Rating: 87
Style: Belgian Strong Dark Ale. 0
ABV: 16.83% ABV
A: 0
WJ: 0
St: 0
Sh: Oh god why

From Episode 32, Ghost Face Killah
Twisted Pine Brewing Company
Colorado, United States
Beer DB: http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/23/65230/

BA Rating: 70
Style: Chile Beer
ABV: 5.00% ABV
* Just wow... fuck.

From Episode 49, with X of Utah Outcasts!
Cocks not Glocks: Dildos to replace guns at UT-Austin campus carry protest

UT-Austin students will hold a "strap in" protest against campus carry on Aug. 24, 2016 by carrying dildos to class in violation of the campus' obscenity policy. (first day of the next fall semester)
Jessica Jin, who set up the Campus (DILDO) Carry event said, "'You're carrying a gun to class? Yeah well I'm carrying a HUGE DILDO,'" Jin says in the group's description. "Just about as effective at protecting us from sociopathic shooters, but much safer for recreational play."
As of today, there are 5500 people signed up to attend.
UT has strict rules against “obscenity” which could get the participants citations
June 1, 2015 SB11 provides that license holders may carry a concealed handgun throughout university campuses
#CocksNotGlocks

Thanks again to X from Utah Outcasts. Check'en out!



From episode 37, Gloria-Face

Sin Free Facebook

So I decided to become an investigative journalist for this weeks story, and the first thing I want to tell you is that I didn’t use Rawstory, Patheos, or any of our other regular news outlets, so suck it! I actually did some work!

To start I had to see this site and the only way you can view profiles and see posts was to join Facegloria… Also, this site is in Portuguese so I feel like I should get some sort of badge for going above and beyond.

Terms and Services

Definition-The FACEGLORIA, figure- themselves as social network Christian values, with free enjoyment to all people, regardless of ethnicity, social class, and religion. Simply for enjoyment purposes. Express consent and framing the provisions outlined in the Terms of Conditions of Use.

According to this, we are free to participate

After making a profile and choosing a username (Waiting 4Wrath) I was brought to a rather boring...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Have A Miller And Go All Year One yes 1:17:10
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 216 - The One Where We Win Fabulously At Being Merry 101 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-216/ Fri, 28 Dec 2018 14:00:46 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36679 In This Week’s Show, episode 216, we wish you a happy and a merry… blow up gift that’s just for you, like this show! In This Week’s Show, episode 216, we wish you a happy and a merry… blow up gift that’s just for you, like this show!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Beira (the Gaelic Queen of Winter) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that Santa is regretting giving bad children coal now that global warming is threatening his workshop.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Beira, in addition to being the personification of winter, was also the mother to all the Celtic gods and goddesses? She also supposedly created Loch Ness by turning her lazy maid into a river. That got lazy and made a loch?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Beer: Grapefruit Solis, Mike Hess Brewing

Donated By: Steve


* BALink: https:http://bit.ly/2rZ6xzu
* BA Rating: 4.03/5
* Style: American IPA
* ABV: 7.5%
* Aaron: 2
* Jenn: 2
* Jim: 2
* Shea: 2
* Steve: 3


Hammer Imperial Stout, Renegade Brewing

Donated By: Aaron


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2rZ6y6w
* BA Rating: 4.05/5
* Style: American Imperial Stout
* ABV: 9%
* Aaron: 2
* Jenn: 7
* Jim: 7
* Shea: 2
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Hey all, have a happy and merry eh!

Headlines

 

Aaron

Well… at least they didn’t worship it. Or, velcro gloves not included!
Love a good Rocky & Bullwinkle title joke… anyway, all I want for Christmas is to fuck a sheep.

http://bit.ly/2rW5Dnp


Sex dolls shows up a lot in our show, but not as many of those stories are about sex as one might expect. Case in point, you’d think someone in Scotland would be better at identifying sheep — or at least be able to tell which ones are for fucking. Helen Cox, 46, is not so gifted. Her son, however, was gifted … a blow-up sheep to take to school for the nativity scene. The five-year-old, dressed in a dish towel-Keffiyeh and a red robe, was sent home. See, the doll, which had been listed online as “Labreeze kids boys brown shepherd costume inflatable sheep nativity fancy dress outfit,” had a more-anatomically-correct-it-should-be sheep-hole, and was tarted up like a cheap whore, completed painted-on eyelashes and red lips. “I just can’t believe it. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry! How am I going to explain this to his teachers?” the mom of two said. “I told him, ‘you can’t have this sheep, Alfie’ – but he kept asking why so I had to make up a reason,” Cox laughed, explaining that Alfie refuses to give up his new toy. “I told him it didn’t look like a proper sheep because it had a mustache, red lipstick and a bow on its head, but he still wanted to play with it.” She added that she plans to take the sex doll from him soon and claim it was the Elf on a Shelf — cementing what I’m sure won’t at all be years of expensive psycho-sexual elf-sheep centaur-based wellness therapy in Alfie’s future. Finally, in mom’s defense, it really does just look like a cheap, vinyl-plastic, beachball-esque balloon animal, I mean, it doesn’t even look sturdy enough to sodomize…

Totally understandable mistake.



Jenn’s Story: KFC is bringing the war on arteries to the homefront: Introducing the KFC (11 herbs and spices) scented fireplace logs!

http://bit.ly/2CCKx3p


Per the hyperbole-prone KFC website:

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Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Win Fabulously At Being Merry 101 yes 1:28:48
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 215 - The One Where We Fly The Overly-Friendly Skies https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-215/ Fri, 21 Dec 2018 14:00:51 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36620 In This Week’s Show, episode 215, we’re getting our game faces on early so that we record four shows, three bottles of wine, 4 special beers, and a Big Gay Jim in the studio! In This Week’s Show, episode 215, we’re getting our game faces on early so that we record four shows, three bottles of wine, 4 special beers, and a Big Gay Jim in the studio!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ta Tanka (the Great Buffalo Spirit of Native American plains tribes) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that Vic's vapor rub is just spicy vasoline

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Ladies, did you know that Ta Tanka is the patron of ceremonies, health, and provisions, and is the primary guardian of young women and women during menstruation? So when it’s that time of the month just let people know you’re having a visit from Aunt Buffaflo.

Jim’s Good Gay News

Watch Dumplin on Netflix

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Best Brown Ale - Bell’s Brewery

Donated By: Steve E. especially for OUR Steve


* BA Link:
* BA Rating: 3.83
* Style: American Brown Ale
* ABV: 5.8
* Aaron: 8
* Shea: 4
* Jim: 3
* Steve: 8
* Jenn: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

A quick announcement about the holidays…

This week’s show is being recorded on more or less our usual production schedule. And so is 4 More Beers episode 26 for Patrons. Actually, we’re recording that a little later today… and… then we’re going to record 216 and 217. This will be the first time we’ve ever recorded so much in advance of the airdate but the holidays can be a busy time for four people to get together on the weekly and then have homework as well. We’ve done our homework extra well and I think the next few shows will be just what you want to have stuck in your stockings… yeah. But we won’t have new patron, email, or voicemail announcements in the next few episodes because those things will happen in the future, as of now, but the past when you hear those shows. Confused? You won’t be after this episode of Waiting 4 Wrath…

New patrons Kevin, his brother David and his other brother David.

Still the best
By David the Oxford
Rating: ★★★★★

Happy holidays to the best podcast that anybody could ever hope for. Beer and brains and laughter. Thanks for being a part of my life this year. I hope others will give you a try. They will enjoy.

~ Jessie from Jersey!

Email from Reb*Ox, enjoy that music!

Headlines

HL1 - Steve Lines Are Back!

There’s an entity in the US called The American Center for Law and Justice. At first glance, this sounds like it would be a good thing, working to ensure that our constitutional rights are being protected and fighting for the “little guy”. But this is Waiting 4 Wrath, and that’s not the kind of thing we talk about is it? No, this piece of shit organization was founded by Pat Robertson as a conservative watchdog group. Notice how their initials are eerily similar to the ACLU, which is not an accident. They’re known for losing such grandstanding bullshit cases as supporting prayer during sporting events, supporting a student who was denied a scholarship to study religion and trying to get rid of buffer zones around abortion clinics.

Well, now they’ve turned their efforts to prevent children from learning to handle stress, calm down, and concentrate on school work. Evil. Evil I tell you. The program in question is mostly based on Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction, a scientifically-validated program developed by clinicians, in which audio recordings are used to guide students through stress-reduction practices. The problem, you see, is that it looks like Buddhist meditation and not like bowing your head and ...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Fly The Overly-Friendly Skies yes 1:08:23
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 214 - The One Where We Join Unicron's Utopian Unicorns Unlimited https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-214/ Fri, 14 Dec 2018 14:00:32 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36605 In This Week’s Show, episode 214, we travel to the worst hotel for the worst date with the worst nuns at the worst conference for the worst ideas with the worst people. In This Week’s Show, episode 214, we travel to the worst hotel for the worst date with the worst nuns at the worst conference for the worst ideas with the worst people.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while TaiTai (the Maori god of hunger) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that  people with beards are just people without beards with beards.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that scientists in Australia proved this year a weird phenomenon that Aborigines had long reported? Predatory birds known as ‘fire raptors’ (which actually includes at least 3 different species) have been starting dangerous bushfires intentionally by flying with lit branches in their beaks and talons. So, white folks have finally caught up to what Aboriginal peoples have been observing for approx. 40,000 yrs.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Beer - Periwinkle Dragon from Alley Kat

Donated By: DodSno (Bryce)


BA Link: http://bit.ly/2Ae3reD
BA Rating: 3.95/5
Style: American Imperial IPA
ABV: 7.5
Aaron: 6
Jenn: 8
Shea: 8
Steve: 3


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patron David

Texts!

Dave the Ox, guzzling old Rasputin, at least at Christmastime. We look forward to your drunk dial and review!

Mystery WyoTexter - this episodes for you, here’s to hoping this day is better!

Congrats to the guys over at Vulgarity for Charity! They raised like a 120,000 fucking dollars for a good cause! Fun fact, if we could raise roughly the same amount for WyoAIDS they’d be able to provide assistance to every person in Wyoming with HIV/AIDS who is in need, so head over to WyoAIDS.org or click the donate widget on our website and help us out!

Headlines

Well, that’s terrible… - http://bit.ly/2UHJc2n

So Ashley and I stayed at a B&B for her birthday recently. It was great! The owner even put a candle in her omelet. It was a nice surprise. On the other side of the hospitality coin are Faye and Andrew Stephens, whose son Alex died in 2014. Every year there've been traveling to a resort on his birthday as a remembrance. I'm guessing the resort had more resources than a little bnb because instead of a candle the couple's mother, (her mother) who planned the trip had asked for balloons and cake which they were happy to provide ahead of the three people's arrival. The house staff made a ... Well, it's a cake but it's not gonna win any baking contests. They tied a few generic party balloons to it and left flowers on the bed which spelled out "happy birthday Alex, we miss you" next to the cake...  Which was being helped by a full size, clothed, blackface effigy of Alex, with candy tears running down its nightmare-basement-doll-from-Jenn's-last-story face?
Mrs. Baker, who first discovered the effigy, said she was "utterly horrified" and removed the dummy before her friends saw it. "When I walked into the bedroom, all I can describe is a dummy body on the bed," she said "staff had gone through my friend's wardrobe and stuffed the clothes with towels to make it look like a body on the bed. They even put tears down the face and a can of lager in his hand.
"I was absolutely horrified - as you can imagine I was sweating and shaking. We just didn't want our friends to see it.
"I have truly never seen anything like it. I still look at the photographs now and can't believe somebody thought to do that", she said.

Black and White - http://bit.ly/2Bf8eNh

When nuns go bad. St. James Catholic School in Torrance, California,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Join Unicron's Utopian Unicorns Unlimited yes 1:12:25
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 213 - The One Where We Learn We're Agnostic https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-213/ Fri, 07 Dec 2018 14:00:47 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36599 In This Week’s Show, episode 213, we fly the too-friendly skies right into the heart of Australia’s elderly, puck-wielding, pladipy-pugilist parade, to find out why Everyone’s Agnostic. In This Week’s Show, episode 213, we fly the too-friendly skies right into the heart of Australia’s elderly, puck-wielding, pladipy-pugilist parade, to find out why Everyone’s Agnostic.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ammon (the North African counterpart of Zeus) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned you can tell someone to have a nice day but if you tell them to enjoy the next 24 hours you always sound threatening.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Ammon was originally an Ethiopian or Libyan divinity, whose worship subsequently spread all over Egypt, a part of the northern coast of Africa, and many parts of Greece?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Dogfish Head India Brown Dark IPA

Donated By:RW


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2AcaO6l
* BA Rating: 4.09/5
* Style: American Brown Ale
* ABV: 7.2
* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 7
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 9


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Coming up is a conversation with Cass of Everyone’s Agnostic

Voicemail: re: sexism from customers

Boosting Jenn!

by EricSinTX on Nov 28, 2018

RATING: ★★★★★

A grand show, very pleasurable and sometimes actually informational.

No new Patrons. Boo, you should sign up for patreon.com/w4w and for as little as a buck an episode you’ll get longer shows with exclusive stories (this week is properly hi-fucking-larious) and free episodes of 4 More Beers! What’s not to love?

Thanks to RW for the influx of new beers!

Everyone’s Agnostic - If you like our second half check out his show at Everyone’s Agnostic!


* http://www.everyonesagnostic.com
* Twitter: evry1sagnostic
* facebook: everyonesagnostic


Update - Dutch Troll isn't allowed to change his age to 20 years younger no matter how young his doctors say he looks. In a press statement, the court added: “Mr. Ratelband is at liberty to feel 20 years younger than his real age and to act accordingly. But amending his date of birth would cause 20 years of records to vanish from the register of births, deaths, marriages and registered partnerships. This would have a variety of undesirable legal and societal implications.”

HotShots

Youporn Wants The D

The D for Dunkin that is. http://bit.ly/2ATd2Ib

Starbucks just announced it's blocking customers from watching porn while on their free WiFi, this after mounting pressure from the Internet safety group, Enough is Enough. A petition by anti-porn group Enough Is Enough has garnered over 26,000 signatures, which makes some strong accusations against the company for the potential repercussions of allowing porn to flow free across the public WiFi.

"Starbucks is keeping the doors wide open for convicted sex offenders and patrons to fly under the radar from law enforcement and use free, public WiFi services to view or distribute graphics or obscene pornography, child pornography (an illegal crime), or engage in sexual predation activity," the petition statement reads.

Enough Is Enough has been campaigning for over two years for Starbucks to act after the company said it would follow in the footsteps of fellow chain McDonald's, which blocked access to porn sites using its WiFi in 2016.

So as of January first, 2019, all pornographic content will be filtered. "To ensure the Third Place remains safe and welcoming to all,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Learn We're Agnostic yes 1:03:09
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 212 - The One Where Jerk-Bird Evolves Into Thanosaurus-Pecs https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-212/ Fri, 30 Nov 2018 14:00:36 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36594 In This Week’s Show, Episode 212, Jenn’s away so we ordered Chinese food and I’m pretty sure I ate one of Shea’s largely footed cousins. In This Week’s Show, Episode 212, Jenn’s away so we ordered Chinese food and I’m pretty sure I ate one of Shea’s largely footed cousins.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Jenn hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience… fucking constantly.
Shea’s Life Lesson
This week I learned that it's inappropriate to ask the parents of a kid on a leash if it's a rescue.
Jenn’s Actual Lesson
This week Jenn learned...things I'm sure. But we won't hear about it ‘till next week. Don't worry though, she read our notes and gave us the approval to proceed without her this week!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!
This Week’s Beer
Jack Mormon Pale Ale

Donated By: Marie (Lonely Wyoming)

BA Link: http://bit.ly/2AbXPBJ
BA Rating: 3.4/5
Style: Pale Ale
ABV: 5.5
Aaron: 6
Shea: 6
Steve: 4

This Week’s Show
Thanos visits to Uganda to preach to coked up swans

Round Table Discussion

As you no doubt noticed, Jenn is out of the studio tonight but sends greetings to you all. Hopefully, today’s iTunes reviews will bring her back from the brink of… well of not being here.

No new Patrons, boo! Help us out and get longer shows and episodes of 4 More Beers at http://patreon.com/w4w! 

iTunes

Love the beer reviews and… 5/5
November
The banter. Nice listening while drinking my own beer.
Faith in humanity restored… 5/5
Sir_HairyPalms
In the desolate wastes of biblefuck nowhere in deepest, darkest, Trumpbekistan resides a group of sarcastic, mouthy, uncensored, beer swilling, gawd denyin heathens. And I love 'em! The 4wrath crew are smart, funny, and kind people who are living life the right way by supporting worthy causes, pissing off religious lunatics, and drinking beer! Listen to this podcast! Because while Marti, the Goddess of all things fabulous in Wyoming, hasn't struck you down yet you are trying her patience.
- Sir HairyPalms The Blind

Updates

Satanic Temple and Netflix have come to a settlement regarding the suit the Satanic Temple brought against Netflix using their Baphomet Statue in the show Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. Details aren’t completely known, but according to Lucien Greaves, Netflix will change credits of the four episodes to acknowledge the unique elements of the statue.
Headlines
HL1 - 20 years younger?
Listen to find out how! -  http://bit.ly/2Ay2cHt

A 68-year-old retired man in the Netherlands has come up with an ingenious way to become 20 years younger. Dutch entrepreneur Emile Ratelband is hoping he will be able to change his date of birth from 11 March 1949 to 11 March 1969 after his doctors said he had the body of someone more than 20 years younger than himself. He argues that if transgendered people can change their gender then he should be able to change his age. Makes perfect sense, right?

Mr. Ratleband a self-professed self-help guru - who described himself as a "young god" - is taking action against his local authority after it refused to change his age on official documents.

“You can change your name. You can change your gender. Why not your age? Nowhere are you so discriminated against as with your age." He claims.

Mr. Ratleband also claims that his legal age has had a negative impact on his employment opportunities as well as his love life.

He said: "When I'm 69, I am limited. If I'm 49, then I can buy a new house, drive a different car. I can take up more work.

"When I'm on Tinder and it says I'm 69, I don't get an answer. When I'm 49, with the face I have, I will be in a luxurious position.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Jerk-Bird Evolves Into Thanosaurus-Pecs yes 1:06:28
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 211 - The One Where We Give Thanks To Wombats https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-211/ Thu, 22 Nov 2018 18:32:05 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36567 This Week’s Show, episode 211, presents a feast of stories for your holiday consumption. So, sit back, unbutton your pants, and pretend we’re football! This Week’s Show, episode 211, presents a feast of stories for your holiday consumption. So, sit back, unbutton your pants, and pretend we’re football! Patreon cut of the show! Hopefully, those of you needing a little extra distraction from crazy uncle nutter will appreciate some wombatty goodness. Enjoy!

This Week’s Show, episode 211, presents a feast of stories for your holiday consumption. So, sit back, unbutton your pants, and pretend we’re football!

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Tezcatlipoca, the Aztec god of the night sky, memory and time, hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that left-handed people have a better chance at finishing a test on time, than people with no hands.

Also, Jenn cheats at cards.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Wonder why I chose Tezcatlipoca as our god this week? Turns out he often took the form of a turkey and when represented in human form he’s usually depicted wearing a white turkey feathered headdress, and was sometimes referred to as ‘Precious Turkey’.

Happy Thanksgiving!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Michigan Amber from Big Lake Brewing

From: Steve E, (this is Aaron’s beer)


* Style: Amber Ale
* ABV: 5.7
* Link: http://bit.ly/2zpIbC5
* Aaron: 9
* Jenn: 8
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Patrons! Sir Hairy Palms the Blind is a new patron. Sorry about that vision condition eh, it’s hard to control the effects all this sexy…

No iTunes reviews… you should leave us one, dear listener. If you’re dedicated enough to be reading this you’re exactly the kind of person we need to visit iTunes and tell us how wonderful we are. And while you’re at it, why not sign up for Patreon.com/w4w and 4 More Beers episode 25 that will drop this week.

Jenn - From last week’s awful birthing-in-the-wild story: Thanks to Dustin of Atheist Nomads and Steve from Milburn for writing in as dads who, along with their partners, used medical means to bring forth their kids. So with our sample size, seems that’s the way to go. Also, Steve pointed out that his wife had a C-section with their first and a natural with the second, so it IS possible to do safely. Thanks for that correction! (He also says thanks for bringing back the goddamn headlines, sorry to disappoint this week, but it’s a story show, so that’s close eh.)

Also, Dustin, I apologize for frightening you with a few of my more recent stories...stay tuned bc this episode is safe, at least for one of ours.

Hot Shots

Women in Science!

A group of young women in Kyrgyzstan is crowdfunding the country’s first satellite launch http://bit.ly/2Ag5T46

Lots of countries have space agencies. Kyrgyzstan isn’t one of them. It’s also kind of a shit place to be a lady, what with the rife domestic violence, child marriage, and bridal kidnappings. Bektour Iskender, a journalist and TED presenter started a robotics course for women in Bishkek, the capital, with the intention of launching a satellite. They’re using Patreon to crowdfund the project with the ultimate goal of launching a $150k CubeSat. CubeSats tiny, easy to build (for a rocket engineer anyway) satellites that are designed for researchers and small organizations, and are typically launched with a NASA rocket through one of their programs. The program met its first goal of 500$/m which allowed them to get a 3D printer and get to work. The next goals are 2500 and 5000$ for an Earthbound test device, and then the launch respectively. The project has garnered attention from women in STEM the world over, even seeing predominate women of science like American Astronaut Peggy Whitson who is giving 1024$ a...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Give Thanks To Wombats yes 1:18:27
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 210 - The One Where We Snatch Donuts From The Hairy Palms Of Free-Bakers https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-210/ Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:00:40 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36560 In This Week’s Show, episode 210, we dunk our globe-nut in gravity-goop so gassy cows pray the skunk away. In This Week’s Show, episode 210, we dunk our globe-nut in gravity-goop so gassy cows pray the skunk away
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Solboni (the god of the dawn for the Buryat people) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if our ass was split horizontally, it would clap when you ran down the stairs.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Freddie Mercury was raised in the Zoroastrian faith? Also, go see Bohemian Rhapsody.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

German Chocolate Cake from TallGrass Brewing

From: RW


* BA: 3.78/5
* Style: English Sweet/Milk Stout
* ABV: 5%
* Link: http://bit.ly/2SLUjpQ
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 8
* Shea: 7
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

We Got One! - Welcome patron BilltheBloody

RIP Stan Lee.

Sad news as Stan “the man” Lee has joined Steve Ditko and Jack Kirby.

Listeners know how much we love comics and Marvel in particular but I want to take a moment and talk about the impression Marvel’s left on me. I was lucky to grow up on Lee’s heroes rather

than religious idols. Marvel never shied away from the difficult topics and they never waved them with away with platitudes or excuses. Lee’s heroes planted themselves like the tree of truth and told the world to move. And it did. The original animated X-Men, a not-so-subtle foil for minority rights, toward the end of episode 2 “night of the sentinels” presents the idea clearly, Storm attempts to explain the anti-mutant bigotry often expressed in X-Men the same way we see homophobia now in bakeries and ex-county clerk’s offices, to a young Jubilee. I never forgot her lesson. Now, almost every time I see some homophobic, racist, misogynist, nutcase in the show’s news feed railing against what they just know to be wrong I hear her voice, and through her Stan’s message; don’t succumb to fear of the unknown. Or, from Stand directly, “I wanted them to be diverse. The whole underlying principle of the X-Men was to try and be an anti-bigotry story to show there’s good in every person.”

X-Men “Why Do People Hate Us?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baFXQiooens

Updates

The Satanic Temple has filed the lawsuit against Netflix over the statue claiming that the “Defendants misappropriated the TST Baphomet Children in ways implying the monument stands for evil. Among other morally repugnant actions, the Sabrina Series’ evil antagonists engage in cannibalism and forced-worship of a patriarchal deity”. The lawsuit seeks $150 million in damages.

Also, the Church of Satan wants to make it abundantly clear that they are separate from TST and have no issue with how Netflix displayed Baphomet.

Amy Kremer, a co-founder of the Women Vote Trump PAC, told MSNBC Sunday she does believe violence has entered into the country’s political discourse, pointing blame solely at liberal activists. She particularly took issue with a Brooklyn bookstore’s repeated rituals where witches have planned to place a “hex” on Kavanaugh. Kremer criticized the event as yet another left-wing attack on conservatives. “It is a scary time right now,” she said. “Now you’ve got witches that are placing a hex on Brett Kavanaugh.” so somehow this is still unfolding. How long until agent orange sets up a hex force?

HotShots

Just Pray For A Rainbow Ok! - http://bit.ly/2TgGr7p

And yes, I am talking about “the gay.” Florida-Doctor-Man, homophobic piece of shit, and - big shocker here - a hypocritical piece of shit, Norman Goldwasser made headlines this week by t...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Snatch Donuts From The Hairy Palms Of Free-Bakers yes 1:03:56
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 209 - The One Where We Manage To Stay On Topic https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-209/ Fri, 09 Nov 2018 14:00:22 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36550 In This Week’s Show, episode 209, Aaron’s away so the cast will play. Now enjoy those stickers you got on Election Day. Let’s hope this election doesn’t go the same way. In This Week’s Show, episode 209, Aaron’s away so the cast will play. Now enjoy those stickers you got on Election Day. Let’s hope this election doesn’t go the same way.
You did get a sticker right? Right!

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Manabozho (the dominant Algonquin trickster god) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that the legal name of Sloppy Joe is Untidy Joseph.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that unlike the more well known Native American trickster god, Coyote, Manabozho was actually known as The Great Hare. Sorta the Native Bugs Bunny.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Half-Tanked Hefeweizen from Lander Brewing


* From: Marie (lonely Wyoming)
* Style: German Hefeweizen
* ABV: 5.4%
* UT: 3.69/5
* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2SDThfS
* Aaron: sad panda
* Jenn: 8
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Still, fuck all - seriously, someone send us something!

• Twitter: @4Wrath
• Facebook: Facebook.com/Waiting4Wrath
• Email: Podcast@Waiting4Wrath.com
• Drunk Dial: (513) 760–0463

Headlines

Billing Cancer Quacks - http://bit.ly/2T0Un5B

Dawn Kali had breast cancer and instead of going to an Oncologist, she decided to see the best-selling author of “The pH Miracle”, Robert O. Young. Unsurprisingly, Young is not a doctor of anything. In fact, he has no post-high school degrees of any kind from any accredited school. He’s simply a charleton who has managed to convince dum dums that he can treat their illnesses. Well, this got him arrested, convicted, and imprisoned for practicing medicine without a license. He’s currently serving a three year,8-month sentence.

Back to Dawn Kali though. After Young promised to cure her cancer without surgery, chemotherapy or radiation she spent thousands of dollars for treatments

consisting of “cleansing her blood”, avoiding sugars, messages, colonic therapy, and

baking soda infusions. This didn’t work and cancer spread to her bones and which time she finally saw the light and went to an actual doctor. Then she sued that motherfucker Young.

After only three hours of deliberation, the jury agreed that Young is a fuckhead greedy narcissist and awarded Kali $1Mil. for medical expenses, $89.5Mil for future pain and suffering, and finally $15Mil. in punitive damages. The better news is that Kali, in spite of the sham treatments she received at first, is on the road to recovery with a life expectancy of four years and hoping the chemo and actual medicine will save her life.

The Chilling Adventures of Baphomet

The new Netflix Warner brothers series The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina has recently come under fire from the Satanic Temple after a familiar statue can be seen early in the fourth episode. The statue in the series bears a striking resemblance to the traveling Baphomet featured on the show numerous times, typically in response to politicians being idiots and overstepping their bounds.

It may surprise some of you that there isn't just a standard Baphomet statue like there is of the Jesus. The only other notable Baphomet image is an 1856 drawing by Eliphas Lévi. And that image looks nothing like the statue. The drawing features a winged demon with lovely knockers and a similar head.



According to Lisa Soper, the production designer of Sabrina, who before Grieves tweeted their intent, said, the show’s statue was not modeled after TST’s. “I think that’s kind of a coincidence…,” Sopher said.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Manage To Stay On Topic yes 1:02:41
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 208 - The One Where We Water Down Our Minty Rage! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-208/ Fri, 02 Nov 2018 13:00:11 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36537 In This Week’s Show, episode 208, we take the patrons out for calamari sammiches with a side of homeo-drolic robo-cock spiders. In This Week’s Show, episode 208, we take the patrons out for calamari sammiches with a side of homeo-drolic robo-cock spiders.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Yal-un ele (the Mongolian mother of fire) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that shirts are crazy, your body goes in one hole and comes out three!

Or

Aren't public pools the first widely accepted gender-neutral bathroom?

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know octopuses have three hearts and blue blood?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Beer - Meadjito from FallenTimber brewing


* From: Dod Snow
* Style: Mead/Hydromel
* ABV: 5.5%


Rate Beer: 3.2 out of 5

Link: http://bit.ly/2z7cSvF

Per the website: In Alberta’s foothills, our bees constantly work to provide a perfect base for the meticulously crafted contents of this bottle -- made just for you... Combining our honey with fresh mint & lime provides a light, refreshing, naturally gluten-free mojito. Swirl before opening as the Meadjito is unfiltered. Enjoy over ice!


* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 5
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 9


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

iTunes update from the lovely RebOx

Very Fun! Feels like family!

by Rebel*Ox on Oct 27, 2018

RATING: ★★★★★

Funny and smart. Feels like sitting down with a friends. It's one of the podcasts I look forward to every week

And the saga of the cheesesteaks enters its second month: VM from Alan and a couple of messages from Freethinker, if you’re interested in how to taco a pizza-steak listen to this week’s Patreon outtake segment. Yeah, patrons get more outtakes, just saying...

Shea and Jenn will be joining the Zachriledge podcast, live, immediately following this: http://bit.ly/2zjGgPt

Hot Shots…

Pyrophobia vs. Arachnophobia - http://bit.ly/2zvvupJ

Nothing can quite ruin a relaxing day alone like black widows can. The spider not ScarJo, she ruins nothing. A California man was enjoying a nice evening house-sitting for his parents when he discovered the spider, instead of opting for a reasonable weapon like some toilet paper or a rolled up magazine this gentleman reached for a blowtorch. As expected things quickly escalated as spiders deal with fire slightly better than houses do. Eventually, around 30 firefighters responded to the spider-related fire. Even though the second story of the home and the attic were damaged by the flames, the fire was put out quickly, and the man was able to get out unharmed. The Fresno City firefighters' account tweeted out a common sense message to their residents in light of this bizarre incident. “Please don't use a blowtorch to kill spiders.” no word on of the spider made it out or whether the spiders family are plotting revenge. It might be best to just burn the fucker down.

Database of Fail - http://bit.ly/2zkUGyS - New database is live. Not exciting news you say? Well, maybe not, but it’s good news for those who believe that science is the only true way to define our world. The Retraction Watch Database was made specifically to track retractions of studies from scientific journals. This means a journal no longer stands behind the article and it or the study’s author initiated a retraction. This is not a process taken lightly, but it is on the upswing. Before 2000 there were about 100 retractions per year, now it’s more like 1000, but then again the number of published papers has more than doubled from 2003 to 2016.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Water Down Our Minty Rage - Patreon yes 1:05:08
Episode 207 – The One Where We Get All Dolled Up For Halloween! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-207/ Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:00:08 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36520 In This Week’s Show, episode 207, we get spooked by Jenn’s homeopathic anti-vaxx-a-cilin, which does seem to contain actual terror. In This Week’s Show, episode 207, we get spooked by Jenn’s homeopathic anti-vaxx-a-cilin, which does seem to contain actual terror.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Anubis (the Egyptian guardian of the dead) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that they didn't have any unplanned pregnancies at Hogwarts because of the spell "fetus deletus"!

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

See if you can spot tonight’s theme: Did you know that within 3 days of death the enzymes that helped you digest your dinner will begin to eat YOU?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Red Lodge Ale - Bent Nail IPA


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2yt06Ix
* BA Rating: 3.77/5
* Style: American IPA
* ABV: 6.30%
* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 9
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Welcome new Patron King Torm - Who, I assume, is a better, Mr. T-ier version of King Orm.

No iTunes Reviews.

Voicemail!

Freethinker215 had another small correction for me, and once again, he’s correct. It’s not two-fifteen as I said multiple times, it’s a zip code so it’s two one five. I have been duly informed.

Follow up on the tongueless mummy from CraigDeFarmer on Twitter for Jenn:

Uhm... right in he article about the guy without the tongue...
"It appeared clear the flat stone was a replacement for a body part because it had been put in the front of the mouth where the tongue ought to be," he added.
Evidence of infection on the jaw bones supports the theory that the tongue was amputated in life."The mouth is full of bacteria so if a tongue is cut out, an infection is likely to arise," Mays said.
Signs of active infection in the bones indicate the tongue was likely severed months or even weeks before death."He probably died because of the infection following amputation of the tongue," Mays said

Thanks again, Craig. And as I mentioned, despite the fact that I DO read most of the articles I use in full, Steve can always find a question I didn’t think to look for the answer to. And Shea has the question that I just finished answering.

Update on the witches hexing that guy - http://bit.ly/2SmhAyq

Headlines (You asked for it) - Really it’s just Steve’s stories

http://bit.ly/2z4zH3m

It seems that we have a large portion of our population who is doing all they can to make sure they die off. I’m not talking about some gangland murderous bunch of people killing their own in turf wars or ethnic cleansing in the third world, I’m talking about right here at home in the USA. I’m talking about people who should know better, who in most cases were taught better, but who cannot seem to see the truth that’s right in front of them. I’m talking about a group of people who believe that they are the chosen people who rule the land of the free? Who don’t worry about getting enough to eat or clean drinking water (hell, many of them wouldn’t deign to drink tap water anyway). I’m talking about the higher income white people who are refusing to vaccinate their children. It’s like they unconsciously know that their time is over and they are doing what they can to make sure there are no more generations to follow them. These are people who are so tied up in their own minds about what they see as a right that they are incapable of realizing that they are hurting themselves. In this way, they are no different than the zealots who blow themselves up in the name of their superstitions, except, in this case, they are choosing to harm their own children.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Get All Dolled Up For Halloween! yes 1:10:31
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 206 - The One Where We Pre-Game For The Next Live 4 More Beers! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-206/ Fri, 19 Oct 2018 13:00:04 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36508 In This Week’s Show, episode 206, we visit Russia’s North Carolina for broomstick riding homeopathwhiches. In This Week’s Show, episode 206, we visit Russia’s North Carolina for broomstick riding homeopathwhiches.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Saint-Fiacre (the patron saint of gardening and plowboys) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that Vampires can't have babies, not because their sperm is dead like them but because they can't come inside without permission.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson



You probably already knew that humans are genetically similar to pigs (everything from stem cell research, to donor organs, to forensic pathology use piggy parts), but did you know that Chinese geneticists have crossed pig genes with those of a jellyfish, producing piglets whose tongues and trotters glow fluorescent green in UV light? I’m planning a liberation movement, but don’t tell the Chinese.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Long shadow India pale ale
Blindman brewing

Donated By:Bryce Snow


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2A6QhkP
* BA Rating: 4.01/5
* Style: : American IPA
* ABV: 7.1%
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 8
* Shea:10
* Steve:8


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patron: Lindy!

Also, we’re glad to hear that we could help bring some normalcy to a difficult time - or at least our version of it - and we’re especially happy to hear that your mum is doing better! Thanks for supporting the show but also for letting us know that it’s had a positive impact. Podcasters in our niche I think all have a few stories like this and every one is humbling and motivating, so, despite your kind words of appreciation, I must insist that it is indeed our very good pleasure to thank you!

Thanks to Eric S., who is either a railroad spy or modern outlaw, and says train plundering is still pretty common. Per Eric “lots of containers with expensive small items” are frequent thefts.

Message from Freethinker215

Basically, don’t whizz on your food Steve.

Before we dive into hotshots we have a brief correction - for Jenn! It turns out that pre-Viking nordic countries weren’t the rainbowlific fjords of shirtless Thor-y fabulousness she accidentally lead us to believe. It seems Vikings mostly came from Norway and Denmark, not Sweden or Sweden 2, which I’m given to understand is called Swizz-Ur-lend because of a 10,000-year-old decision New Zealand-Batman made. Also, this is why Jenn does emails.

Headlines

The Woman from Methlehem - http://bit.ly/2yodcXD

This story isn’t real and we had to cut it. Which is what happens when Jenn Snopeses something and Shea doesn’t. C’est la vie, but the headline was too good not to include. “Methlehem”, well played Shea.

All that said, this story will air. It was funny as hell if a bit short on the count of being super fake. If you’re interested - and you should be - I’ll be adding it to the outtakes of the next episode of our patron exclusive bonus show, 4 More Beers, Episode 24! Available soon at Patreon.com/W4W

Dehydrating Your You

I think we can all agree alkaline water won’t cure cancer. But I’ve recently discovered what can!
No water!
That’s right, Dry Fasting, which is apparently a thing new-age woos are doing now has become a fad, or at least faddy enough to inspire millions of youtube views and thousands of followers in groups like Hellville to Wellville on facebook. See the idea is to not drink water for like 3 days.
Now, some of you who passed 3rd-grade health-science, or you know, are living people,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Pre-Game For The Next Live 4 More Beers! yes 1:02:34
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 205 - The One Where We Board The Crazy Train To Hooksville - Patreon https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-205/ Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:00:56 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36494 In This Week’s Show, episode 205, the doctors at WHO bend space and time to stop nazi air purifiers from cleaning China’s fog of death. In This Week’s Show, episode 205, the doctors at WHO bend space and time to stop nazi air purifiers from cleaning China’s fog of death
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Mahuika (the Maorian fire goddess and ancestor of Maui) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that you have to be careful what you wear every day because of you die that's your ghost clothes now.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know, and you would if you have seen Moana, that Maui often assumed the form of a hawk? Per Maorian mythology, the hawk, kahu, was a god of fire, and a child of Mahuika.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

From: RW

Meadowlark - Ole Gus
Scotch-style Ale “Wee Heavy Rye Ale”

http://bit.ly/2OkDS5u


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2ycNXXj
* BA Rating: 3.9/5
* Style: Scotch Ale / Wee Heavy
* ABV: 7%
* Aaron: 3
* Jenn: 2
* Shea: 3
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patreon Evan!

iTunes Update from David the Ox:

Still the best

by David the Oxford on Oct 04, 2018

RATING: ★★★★★

Five stars to the podcast that you wish were your next door neighbors. Funny and talented people who like beer and keeping it real.

 

Listen, drink, laugh, and enjoy

by Odysseus2k7 on Oct 05, 2018

RATING: ★★★★★

I have been a patron of this podcast for over a year and it€™s been worth it. I love the chemistry of the hosts. Jenn is my spirit animal!

FreeThinker is a native of sammich land, so for those interested 215 is apparently the area code for Philly. The more you know…

Another mystery is solved! Our fabulous etched and personalized mugs were brought to us by Duff! Just Duff, he’s like Cher and Fabio… and Duff! (beer)

Thanks for the feedback Mel-burn Steve, Jenn promises to do some headlines but as she said in the email, 3-ish minutes a pop is just about all we’re good for.

Hotshots

Steve - Hot Piss is the Best Piss

http://bit.ly/2A5Wi13

I have a scenario for you. You are on your way to get drug tested, but you’re running a bit late and the fresh pee you’re carrying isn’t warm enough to get you through the test. What do you do? Put in under your arm? Fuck that, too slow. You’re in a hurry so you obviously stop into the local gas station that’s on the way and warm up your urine in the microwave. Does this sound silly? Well, Parul Patel, owner of “On the Fly” convenience store in Jacksonville, FL was facing this exact issue on a daily basis. Due to a continuous issue of, non-customers no less, just using his microwave to warm up piss, he had to put up signs against the practice. Patel said, “We try to stop these kinds of people. They become aggressive with us.” LabCorp, the piss test company down the street, declined to comment.

Damnit. It’s. Air.

http://bit.ly/2A5Wiy5

Living in the mountains I've always had a bit of a chuckle at the cans of air in checkout lines here. Silly lowlanders, you have too much air, it makes your minds sick…

Sick enough to buy New Zealand’s air though? Unlike the cheap, oxygen-rich, altitude “remedies” this will cost you more than a few bucks… 98 more than a few actually. And they won’t help you with anything except smelling an air compressor from the picturesque mountains of almost-Australia. Four cans of the 'Pure Fresh New Zealand Air' were seen on display with a price tag of $98.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Board The Crazy Train To Hooksville - Patreon yes 1:02:05
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 204 - The One Where Goats Lose Their Heads For Kinder Eggs https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-204/ Fri, 05 Oct 2018 13:00:37 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36471 In This Week’s Show, episode 204, we christen a new studio with hot wings, beer, and terrible jokes! In This Week’s Show, episode 204, we christen a new studio with hot wings, beer, and terrible jokes!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Anu-mate (Maori space and death deity) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Samhaim was one of 4 major Celtic seasonal festivals and was the Autumn harvest? It (per the internet) translates from Gaelic to ‘summer’s end’.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Brendon’s Golden Frau - Honey wheat - Thunderhead breweries


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2xZprtx
* BA Rating: 3.41/5
* Style: American Pale Wheat Ale
* ABV: 7.5%
* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 6
* Shea: 4


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

We moved!

Wrathful studios is now located at Radio Row in lovely, downtown, Oakland Cali… wait, no, that’s 99pi… but we did move into a new studio that’s a little more … indoors … so hopefully the temps won’t be such an element. Best of all this new space has allowed us to set up a proper backdrop for Discord video! So if you want to join us live for the next patron only 4 More Beers, make sure you sign up at Patreon.com/w4w - which also gets you longer shows with exclusive patreon only content!

Just like these amazing people!


* Freethinker215
* Am (yep. Am)


No iTunes reviews

Presents! Mugs and beer from Steve E!

It was 307 Craftworks! and you should check out what he does because it’s great!

Hotshots!

Naked Kidnapping For Jehovah God

http://bit.ly/2RqdWmV

Three people arrested in Canada after kidnapping neighbors and driving recklessly in order to avoid the rapture.

The bizarre case first made headlines in November 2017 after the Royal Canadian Mounted Police were called to the scene of a car crash in an industrial park in Nisku, south of Edmonton. On arrival, officers said the group were chanting "Jehovah" and refused to exit the vehicle. Officers added that the people in the SUV “displayed extreme strength”, were unaffected by pepper spray and did not relent when shot with Tasers. (The power of Christ compelled them…)

Apparently, the strange behavior all started a few days before when the suspects traveled to Leduc, Alberta, to visit family. During the three-day gathering, they are believed to have refused to leave the house and barely ate. They eventually came to believe they had lived through the Great Tribulation, a period of suffering which some evangelical Christians believes foreshadows part of the biblical "End Times”.

Believing they were in imminent danger, the group fled the house to find safety and none of the family – except the mother – managed to get dressed. So most of them were naked FYI

They made a pit stop at a neighbor’s house and forced a man, his adult daughter, and her six-week son into their BMW SUV. The man was forced into the boot of the vehicle and his daughter was put in the back seat with her child.

The victims were able to escape after the vehicle slowed down and before the woman driving collided with another car and then crashed into a ditch.

All three adult is scheduled to return to court on 20 December.

Stop Kidding Around… Goats.

http://bit.ly/2zSrEbs

Hundreds of mountain goats in Olympic National Park, WA are being rounded up because they’re basically crack addicts. Having worked in a national park I’m sure Jenn has seen this scourge… piss-drunk goats!]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Goats Lose Their Heads For Kinder Eggs yes 1:05:00
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 203 - The One Where We Play The Ballad of The Dueling Beers! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-203/ Fri, 28 Sep 2018 13:00:37 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36460 In This Week’s Show, episode 203, we mount a mammoth expedition to Arizona’s Nazi country, so we can ‘splain now bananas they are. In This Week’s Show, episode 203, we mount a mammoth expedition to Arizona’s Nazi country, so we can ‘splain now bananas they are.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because while Tlāhuizcalpantecuhtli (I don't know what he is a god of I just want to hear Steve pronounce this) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that “Work Bitch” by Britney Spears was released five years ago. In 2013 the unemployment rate was 7.5% and now in 2018, it's 4%, coincidence? I think not!

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

No Jenn today, she decided to check her blood pressure at the machine in Walmart and got her head stuck in it.
Now she's not allowed back to Walmart and has to hunt and gather her groceries — she is currently in the wilderness getting a gallon of milk.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Dod Snow - dual story beers:
- Farmers daughter


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2N5iKe0
* BA Rating: 3.84/5
* Style: American Pale Ale (APA)
* ABV: 4.5%
* Aaron: 5
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 6



* Fire & fury



* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2o4qgvx
* BA Rating: 3.91/5
* Style: American Amber / Red Ale
* ABV: 5%
* Aaron: 8
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

No new patrons… how will you join us on the Discords if you’re not a patron!?

New show ‘feel/style’ - this week we’re doing something a bit different with the show - but we’re not saying what - let us know if the format/feel/etc of the show seems improved, the same, weird, whatever impression it leaves you with.

Today’s Twitter question:

Is a mini-muumuu just a dress? Also, which pokemon would you make wear it?
Bonus points, if you answered “Yeti-mon” what pattern would best bring out the bloodshot in Shea’s eyes?

Voicemail!

Allen formerly of Pennsylvania.

iTunes!

Do yetis enjoy the company of unicorns?
September 8, 2018, by Beer Club Member Amie W.

First of all, 11/10 stars or BA points or something like that. Speaking of spirit animals! You silly maple syrup loving hoser, Aaron you are my spirit animal. Also, I follow all the anime and just overall nerdcore references that you make. Don’t you worry your pretty art degree head. I have an art degree as well, and now I paint pretty pictures on stripper’s nails for all their dirty dollars (aka I am a nail tech). So I feel your pain with convos with other degree owners as far as that goes. But let’s get to the point here. Mrs. and Mr. Yeti, how much does one have to donate to become your magical unicorn? Asking for a friend..... also officially a Patreoner as of this morning. I would have done it sooner, but procrastination and things. I make everyone at the salon listen to your podcast over the salon speakers as long as there are no scary flat earthers present. (It’s Oklahoma. There are a lot.) Jenn, I grew up in a very, very similar environment as you. As well as the similar college experience. Thank you for opening up about these things. Thank you for being a female example of not allowing the patriarchy to smother your power! Big Gay Jim, I just want to cuddle you and your fam and have play dates with our kids (mine 3). Grandpa Steve, I’m going to be real for a sec. You got that Richard Gere thing going for you. Just saying. Take that however you would like. Aaaaannnndddd SPEAKING OF SUBJECT CHANGE!! Keep doing your thing and get all the drunk!!
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 202 - The One Where We Reiki Our Willy's For Beto https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-202/ Fri, 21 Sep 2018 13:00:15 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36451 In This Week’s Show, episode 202, we learn about the beer that Ted Cruz likes to elbow in the tap, and Jim welcomes Sir Harry Palms the Blind! In This Week’s Show, episode 202, we learn about the beer that Ted Cruz likes to elbow in the tap, and Jim welcomes Sir Harry Palms the Blind!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Hestia (the Greek goddess of the hearth) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that RDJ has a pretty proud drug dealer somewhere.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson Did you know that oxygen has a color? Well, not in its gaseous form, but as a liquid or solid, it appears as pale blue. Sorry, Shea.

Jim’s Good Gay News

Scruff, one of the largest and highest rated gay dating apps, taking on racism by changing how they display ethnicity data and sending messages to users who mention race in their profile. They’re not sure it’s going to work, but they’re trying SOMETHING...and that’s good gay news to me! http://bit.ly/2MKk31T

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Session Series IPL | Omaha’s Brickway Brewery

From: Brendon


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2o5ZpiR
* BA Rating: 3.58/5
* Style: American Pale Lager
* ABV: 5%
* Aaron: 3
* Jenn: 4
* Jim: 4
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

No New patrons / iTunes reviews.

Voicemail!

Steve-E

We just recorded another 4 More Beers! And it was live!

If you missed this month’s live event never fear, you can get 4 More Beers 23 by signing up at patreon.com/w4w where, for as little as a buck a show, you’ll get longer cuts of each episode with at least an exclusive patreon story and you can join us next time, live in Discord, for the next episode of 4 More Beers! Your support makes this show possible and we’re damn near our next patreon goal! Help us get to our next goal and we’ll do something special!

Hotshots

No Sookie, that’s not it at all...

Available now at Patreon.com/w4w!

http://bit.ly/2xqZoLx

There’s a lot of blood woo. Beliefs in its magical ability to do all kinds of things are widespread. Depending on what woo you talk to it can do amazingly good things, or help in terrible and evil magic. But like all things perceived to have special powers, the beauty industry is all over it! There have a been a … rash … of spa treatments called vampire facials lately. See, they take your blood then centrifuge it which, according to Dr. Eshan Ali, is “where it's spun around real fast," separating the platelets from the plasma. The latter, of course, containing all that good junk you want shot back into your face to keep it looking… fresh. I guess. Given that your facemeat already has blood in it, I’m not sure how this is supposed to help. But what I’m pretty sure it’s not supposed to do is give you AIDS. Recently, Mexican VIP Spas decided it was easier to just use the blood they had on hand. Yeah. Unfortunately, they didn’t cut out the middle steps so much as give people HIV/AIDS, Hep B and C, and of course, trauma. The Mexican Health Dept. shut the spa down for the time being and is advising the spa’s clients to go get tested for basically everything. Another great cautionary tale about not accepting the medical advice of people who aren’t in the medical field… also, don’t play with bloody needles. Things I shouldn’t have to say.

Education? Really? From MadMikesAmerica and Phoenix New Times

Arizona State Superintendent Diane Douglas decided that she wanted a biology teacher to be a part of the working group charged with reviewing and editing the states science standards on evolution. The thing is, the person she chose, Dr. Joseph Kezele,]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 201 - The One We Fill Your Headphones With Tainted Love... https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-201/ Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:00:15 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36442 In This Week’s Show, episode 201, Shea’s back but Jim is gone, And Steve finally got those damn kids off studio-lawn. Jenn’s second half is a rush, And I’m well into my role as the show’s lush! Welcome to our second centennial, Sign up on Patreon to join 4 More Beers live on Discord… nial... In This Week’s Show, episode 201, Shea’s back but Jim is gone, And Steve finally got those damn kids off studio-lawn. In This Week’s Show, episode 201, Shea’s back but Jim is gone,
And Steve finally got those damn kids off studio-lawn.
Jenn’s second half is a rush,
And I’m well into my role as the show’s lush!
Welcome to our second centennial,
Sign up on Patreon to join 4 More Beers live on Discord… nial...




Which we think will be this Sunday.
Probably.
That's the direction it's leaning anyway... Make sure you check out http://facebook.com/waiting4wrath, http://twitter.com/4wrath, and of course, http://patreon.com/w4w!


Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Te Kuku (the Maori god of earthquakes) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if someone starts playing Christmas music in September you are legally allowed to kill them and use their corpse as Halloween decorations.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know the Earth appears to have a whole new underground continent called Zealandia? The discovery itself isn’t new – some geologists have been arguing for its existence for many years. However, in 2017 a team of scientists concluded Zealandia fulfills all the requirements to be considered a drowned continent.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Traditional Ale | Big Rock Brewery

From: Dodsnow


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2BCWJmc
* BA Rating: 3.58/5
* Style: English Brown Ale
* ABV: 5%
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 5
* Shea: 6
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Patrons!


* Beer Club Member Amie
* Brian


Voicemails


* Lonely Wyoming


iTunes reviews

Laughter, Beer, and poking fun at Beardy Sky-dad
September 6, 2018 by Justpostthegoddamnreview

I'll save you the trouble of reading reviews. You don't need to weigh the possible merits of this podcast and carefully decide if it's for you. Just subscribe. Like a warm blanket on a cold day or a cold pool on a hot day, this podcast will soothe you from head to toe. Come sit with a group of friends, who'll welcome you happily and hand you some crazy new beer they need help taste testing. Join in with the laughter as they react to so-stupid-they-cannot-possibly-be-true religious stories from all over the world. You will be laughing every moment you're there. And when that sad time comes that the show draws to a close, take solace in the fact that these fine people put out so much new content your podcast queue will literally explode. Like Sisyphus' happier cousin, you'll avoid pushing a rock endlessly up a hill, and instead push condensed joy straight into your ears again and again. But if any of the 30,000 gods they've so far offended turn out to be real, I DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE. Well...except Jenn. In a God vs Jenn fight, my money is on Jenn.

Love this podcast!
September 4, 2018 by Heathens are we
I recently finished listening to the backlog and honestly, I’m sad that I have to wait all week for an episode now lol. I grew up an evangelical Christian and then converted to Mormon when I was 19. My family and I have been non-religious now for 4 years and atheist for about 2. We have slowly but successfully de-indoctrinated ourselves and our children (now 12 and 9) from all the twisted fairytales and bs that is religion. We are proud to raise our newest little addition (now 18 months) completely atheist from the start. Being that we live in Utah, it almost feels like we must stay underground, especially the kids,]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 200 - The One Where Sow Discord To Celebrate Our 200th Show! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-200/ Fri, 07 Sep 2018 13:00:50 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36427 In This Week’s Show, episode 200, we celebrate another amazing milestone by drinking too much and telling terrible jokes! In This Week’s Show, episode 200, we celebrate another amazing milestone by drinking too much and telling terrible jokes!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while The Stormfather, a Splinter of the Almighty, hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

In honor of our 200th episode, did you know that Bacchanals (the form of worship to celebrate the Roman god Bacchus and known for turning into occasions for licentiousness and intoxication), became popular in Rome around 200 BCE?

Jim’s Good Gay News

I wanted to be here so much today that I brought along a studio gremlin. And, in honor of episode 200 we're giving this one to everyone! Enjoy the Patreon cut and thank you for listening!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Portersfield Dry Cider

From: James and Susan


* http://bit.ly/2o2mX8a
* Untappd Rating: 3.7
* Style: Cider
* ABV: 6.8%
* Aaron: 10
* Jenn: 8
* Jim: 6
* Steve: 9


Blood Orange IPA | TommyKnocker

From: Our Steve


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2BCWIi8
* BA Rating: 3.73/5
* Style: American IPA
* ABV: 6%
* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 2
* Jim: 4
* Steve: 8


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Patrons!

We don’t have any new patrons but hopefully, we’ve got some patrons in Discord! If you wish you were in Discord you should join patreon.com/w4w and you too can join us when we do these crazy live events!

Voicemails

We’ve played a few throughout the show, and have a few more on the way, but what’s a roundtable without at least a little listener content?


* Bryce!
* Jessie from Jersey!
No worries Jessie, this show is going out to everyone in full!
* David the Ox
* Mr. Bible Pants
* Charles!


TXTs and other

From Cthulhu

Happy birthday from Cthulhu the Octopus God and his colony (family) to the Wrathful Jenn.

From mystery texter:
See if this works.

Congratulations on 200. Love you guys.

It did indeed work!

Thank you to mystery texter #2 and Wyoming local. Yeah, you know who you are. Thanks for listening and reaching out!

iTunes Reviews!

Happy 200 episodes!

From James2529

The only podcast that's made me fall off a treadmill from laughing. Totally worth it. Here's to another 200!

Love beer? You’ll love this!!

From Mississippi Nate

Started listening after hearing them on Cognitive Dissonance and I LOVE IT!!! My favorite Friday tradition is sitting down with my morning coffee every Friday and wishing it was the beer they’re drinking. Commentary is always hilarious and their banter is phenomenal. As an atheist in the heart of a red state, this has been very helpful

A fine podcast tasting

From 1dmarkiii

Upon first opening, this podcast one is immediately struck by the bouquet of slightly sour, but refreshing notes, like a perfectly done shandy. As you drink in the podcast your brain is awash in heady notes of sarcasm, and sacrilege, which are slowly and pleasantly replaced with strong comedy and hints of profanity. Pairs well with meat products, beer, and anything containing Eli Bosnick. This is truly a fine podcast and will be a regular in my podcast consumption. I highly recommend it. -a tetchy bugger

Hot Shots

DRUGS! http://bit.ly/2wPtsPT

I think I’ve finally figured out how to get some...]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 199 - The One Where We Make Hyper Fabulous Eggs! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-199/ Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:00:58 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36413 In This Week’s Show, episode 199, Jim joins us to de-woo some woo and quiz the panel on whatever Shea did. In This Week’s Show, episode 199, Jim joins us to de-woo some woo and quiz the panel on whatever Shea did.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Pan, the ancient Greek goat fucking horn-dog of a god, hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that in Disney’s 2004 princess diaries 2: the royal engagement Stan Lee made a cameo which indicates that Princess Diaries is a part of the Marvel comic universe. Therefore it's a reasonable assumption than Mia Thermopolis, Princess of Genovia could defeat Thanos in the next film.

Jim’s Good Gay News

Did you know that circa WW2, asking if you were a “friend of Dorothy” was a common way to find out if someone was playing for your team? It was used for decades and in the 80’s, Naval Intelligence thought there was an actual woman named Dorothy who was at the center of a gay underground. Really they just needed to dangle Anthony Dinizzo

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Wheat | Backswing Brewing Co.

From: Brendon


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2MxDaki
* BA Rating: 3.63/5
* Style: American Pale Wheat Ale
* ABV: 5.6%
* Aaron: 4*
* Jim: 2
* Shea: 2
* Steve: 6


*I think there was something wrong with the can…

Aussie Ry Session IPA - Two Sergeants and Town Square Brewing

From Dod Snow
IPA - Rhy
6.5% ABV
http://bit.ly/2oqWrpg


* Aaron: 5
* Jim: 1
* Shea: 5
* Steve: 4


Fun fact about this beer - we had planned to do it post-200 but it has active yeast and the cans got a bit worm… and are damn near ready to explode. So… bottoms up!

This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

No new patrons.

Make sure you sign up for https://patreon.com/w4w so you can join us on Discord! We’ll be live streaming the day’s recording with the entire crew so if you want to hear all the sass we get from Jenn and Jim during the breaks, this is your chance!

Ever wonder what you’re missing? Well here’s Jim reviewing one of my creations. If you want to hear what the rest of us thought, check out patreon.com/w4w and listen to 4 More Beers ep 22.

iTunes Review
Witty, wonderful, and hilarious

By Joegou

This cast is perfect on every front. The beer reviews are on point. The news items are approached in ways I typically don’t consider. Despite some of the heady topics, they always manage to make the content hilarious . Well done!

Voicemails

Make sure you leave us some love at 513-760-0463 for episode 200. You only have a week left and we’d really like to roll in some feedback!

Hot Shots

Steve - Do you love eggs? I personally am a big fan. When my wife doesn’t cook, there’s a good chance that I’m having eggs for lunch, dinner, whatever. However, there’s a limit, and a proper way to consume the eggs. Apparently, there’s a new way to go about it. First, take some GHB, or Gamma-hydroxybutyrate. Then boil a ton of eggs. Peel the eggs. And finally, shove all 15 freshly boiled eggs up your own arse. An unidentified man from the Netherlands did just this, and when he began feeling “unwell”, went to a hospital. The doctors suspected abdominal sepsis (no shit), so after a CT scan showed a perforation of the pelvic colon, they went in, cleaned him out, and he lived to stuff another day. http://bit.ly/2wybi4O

Aaron
http://bit.ly/2onzwLx

Fuck you homeopathy, Jim’s the only homo I need!

Well... Mr. Jim is pretty great too,]]>
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Episode 198 – The One With The Second Coming of Andrew L. Seidel https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-198/ Fri, 24 Aug 2018 13:00:49 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36400 Episode 198 - The One With The Second Coming of Andrew L. Seidel Episode 198 - The One With The Second Coming of Andrew L. Seidel
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while the FFRF hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying Andrew's patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that none of the Avengers died under the Obama administration

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

No Jenn today, she is trying out a new technique called Nyquil and chill. According to her, her palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy so send reviews to iTunes or stitcher to help her recover.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Buffalo Sweat | Tallgrass Brewing Co.


* From: RW
* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2MhZezs
* BA Rating: 3.88/5
* Style: Milk / Sweet Stout
* ABV: 5%
* Aaron: 6
* Shea: 6
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Steve’s Theme Song!

Discord chat thing on ep 200  - let us know if this is something that you're interested in. If so, make sure you sign up at http://patreon.com/w4w

A thank you to Timbo slice, who was a big fan of Jenn’s Jones voice, which if you missed you can catch on the EP 196 and 197.

Another big thank you to listener Ross from Hawaii who attempted to get us some island beers but was thwarted once again by the evil postal service.

Hot Shots

Aaron - None. Nun of your damn business that’s what!

Kind of a sad story… but also, what the hell were you thinking? Denise Woodrum, 51, is a nun of the Blood of Christ - a sect of vowed Catholic women - pled guilty to hooker boots full of coke. At a difficult part of her life, some online creep called Cornelius had begun flirting with her online. After a bit of time, the e-trist turned into her visiting him in Australia… by way of Texas, South America, Trinidad, and Tobago, then it was off to the Auzie-land, where, unfortunately for her and I assume the drug runners who tricked her, she was arrested because the weird platform heels a stranger gave her were full of fucking cocaine. So, I guess, don’t take random gifts from strangers on a plane, they even have warnings about that on the PA. And, I suppose, if you’re a nun don’t try to hide drugs in stripper boots… they tend to stand out among your other … habits.

Shea- Ramen Ninjas!

Police in Georgia are looking for some crooks who made off with nearly $100,000 worth of Ramen Noodles. My first question I how big was the fucking truck! Deputies in Fayette County say the thieves stole the 53-foot trailer packed with the noodles about two weeks ago, Fox 5 Atlanta reports. The theft is just one of a string of thefts deputies believe are related. The driver of the truck estimated there were $98,000 worth of noodles in the back; if a 48 pack of ramen costs 8 bucks at Sam's club then the thieves made off with approximately 600,000 packets of the sodium filled noodles. No word on anyone in town is suffering from hyponatremia or salt poisoning.

http://bit.ly/2w7TJZS

Aaron -  Sports!

Recently world-renowned runner of competitions Corey Bellemore ran a competition. He again proved himself worthy of his legendary status by shattering his own world record of a 4:33 mile by a whopping 9 seconds at this year’s event in Vancouver. Unfortunately, his new record was short-lived as officials disqualified him giving the win to British runner Dale Clutterbuck with a time of 4:50 reported Runner’s World, who first covered the “unspecified bottle violation”. “When race officials measured the remaining [beer] in the cans and bottles of the 20 competitors, they found that three runners, including Bellemore, had more than the permitted amount left over.]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 197 - The One Where We Finally Retire Our Tin Foil Hats... Mostly https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-197/ Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:00:50 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36391 In This Week’s Show, episode 197, we choke on nachos still laughing at Alex Jones crazy Affluenza. In This Week’s Show, episode 197, we choke on nachos still laughing at Alex Jones crazy Afluenza.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Nachigai (the earth goddess of Central Asia) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that “take out” means food, dating, and murder.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you that Nachigai (aka as Etugen), was invoked by the people for good weather, an abundance of crops and animals and general prosperity.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Kiwi Berliner | WeldWerks Brewing Co. Greeley, Co

Papa Shea


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2NOGGDi
* BA Rating: 3.92/5
* Style: Berliner Weissbier
* ABV: 4.3%
* Aaron: 1
* Jenn: 3
* Shea: 7
* Steve: 4


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

No new reviews or patrons, but Jaded Zappa has upgraded to Beer Club Member, which is good because soon that will actually mean something!

But thanks very much to RW for beer and James & Susan for cider and fun toys.

Hotshots

Shea- Ahhhhhrachnids

Florida woman arrested after running through park naked believing to be chaste (chased) by giant spiders. Danielle Teeples, 40, had recently used crack, spice and crystal meth. No word on if she took enough to be able to fold a starship through space. She stated she believed a giant spider was on her so she took her clothes off to get away from it. She is currently in jail facing charges of exposure of sexual organs.

http://bit.ly/2MlqYD9

Steve - How about a life sentence? In a shocking and sad testament to zealotry, a young couple in Michigan relied on god to keep their 10-month-old baby alive. Sadly god did nothing and the baby died of severe malnutrition. The parents, Tatiana Elena Fusari and Seth Michael Welch, both 27, said they were aware of the child’s low weight and skinny appearance for about a month, but did nothing. Fearing that CPS would take their other children and citing a lack of trust in medicine, they apparently just chose to allow the child to die rather than intervene. Now, they’ve both been charged with first-degree murder, they lost their other children, and they face life in prison w/o the possibility of parole. http://bit.ly/2MiVldI

Shea- They're after his booty

A man in a pirate mask, complete with a fake eye patch, beard, and parrot, is suspected of stealing a safe from a Cornelius business last month, according to the Washington County Sheriff's Office. More than $4,000 in cash was believed to be inside. Deputies reviewed surveillance footage and saw the man enter the business after hours. He wore a T-shirt only across his shoulders and held a fire extinguisher. Now deputies serving the small city are asking for help finding the costumed suspect, dubbed the "Masked Pirate" burglar. No word on whether they will make him walk the plank or keelhaul him.

http://bit.ly/2nKhfI7

Steve - What do you think of when I say, “little blue pill”? (responses). Boners are usually the response that one would expect. Now, research at Columbia University in New York suggests that in addition to that nice firm stiffy one can get from Viagra, it has also been shown effective in treating age-related macular degeneration, which is a leading cause of blindness. The disease is caused by a growth of new blood vessels in the eye which eventually block the macula leading to a severe decrease in visual acuity. The small study showed that Viagra helps with the underlying issue which, as one would expect, is reduced of blood flow in an area of the eye. Viagra is good at improving blood flow.]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 196 - Tone One Where We Peel Back The Layers Of Crazy https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-196/ Fri, 10 Aug 2018 13:00:59 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36376 In This Week’s Show, episode 196, Jenn comes back to help us stem the tide of bad people, bad medical advice, and bad hosting! In This Week’s Show, episode 196, Jenn comes back to help us stem the tide of bad people, bad medical advice, and bad hosting!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Hairy Jack (the spectral black dog of Lincolnshire) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Today I learned that according to Japanese legend when you can't sleep at night it's because you are awake.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Hairy Jack (AKA Black Shuck), has been sited dating back to 1577? He’s about the size of a calf, with a shaggy fur, and has saucer-shaped eyes that blaze red or green in the dark. Others say he appears as a gigantic dog with a single blazing eye in the center of his forehead, and others as completely headless.

But before we- get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Oval Beach Blonde Ale | Saugatuck Brewing Company, Michigan

Special extra beer extra thanks to Steve E!


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2vRDtvj
* BA Rating: 3.43/5
* Style: American Blonde Ale
* ABV: 5.0%
* Aaron: 9
* Jenn: 9
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 10


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

No new iTunes review or Patrons

Send us some voicemails for the 200th episode, that would be pretty cool!

Jenn’s correction corner from last week’s episode: Steve: yes, I was contagious, Shea: yes, I do listen to all the shows, even when I’m not on, and Aaron...it was really nice that you attempted to give credit (complete with song) to our listener, but her name isn’t Maurice. Thanks, Maria, for sharing the story and having a good sense of humor.

… And that’s why Jenn can never leave the show!

Hot Shots

Aaron

He mostly came out at night anyway, mostly…
Links… the fucking internet right now, I dunno, I saw a million headlines but really didn’t read them, what do you want from me?



In a move that shocked the internet — only insofar as it’s finally happening, that is — tech giants Apple, YouTube, Facebook, Spotify, and basically everywhere else sexier people are subscribed to us… less sexy people will no longer be able to subscribe to Alex Jones. Taking to the internet earlier this week Jones posted angrily about the internet was censoring him and his First Amendment rights, probably, and the Deep State almost certainly… What? I’m not actually gonna read the garbled mess of could-have-been thoughts he scrawled on the margins of the internet like so much cyber-shit! Life’s too short. Some have heralded the banning as the beginnings of a slippery slope. A slope that ends in private companies removing disinformation and anti-fact filth because it makes them look bad and us stupider… In related news apparently Slip n Slides aren’t fun but are, in fact, facioust (of course, now I can't fix this because they called it out on the show). control devices of our secular-but-also-Jewish, socialist-but-also-communist, lizards-but-also-5th-dimensional-energy-beings, ancient-but-also-super-advanced, clandestine-illuminate-public-figures. Who knew?

Steve - You may have noticed that Jenn posted a story on our Facebook page about a jackass harassing a bison in Yellowstone this last week. Said jackass is one, 55-year-old Raymond Reinke of Pendleton, Oregon who, in a stunning display of stupidity, got arrested twice and cited in three national parks inside a week. Beginning July 28 at Grand Teton NP, he was cited for being drunk and disorderly and spent the night in the Teton County jail and released on a $500 bond that required him to avoid alcohol. Then, continuing his antics, he proceeded to Yellowstone NP, where on July 31 he was cited for not wearing a seat ...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve Tone One Where We Peel Back The Layers Of Crazy yes 1:03:03
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 195 - The One Where Vagilante Justice Makes Us Repeat A Grade https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-195/ Fri, 03 Aug 2018 13:00:41 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36343 In This Week’s Show, episode 195, we hook our used honey-condoms up to Shea’s wireless nipples and electro-shock his racing allergies away. In This Week’s Show, episode 195, we hook our used honey-condoms up to Shea’s wireless nipples and electro-shock his racing allergies away.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Typhoid-Jenn hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her immune system!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that you can distinguish an alligator and a crocodile by paying attention to weather the animal sees you later or in a while.

Nebraska Brendon’s Actual Lesson

Being professionally bendie will help you cum on command, just engage your mulabandha, because nothing helps you get laid like a lil’ extra mula.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Aprikat | Alley Kat Brewing Company Alberta, CA

Dod Snow


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2LFLihn
* BA Rating: 3.34/5
* Style: Fruit / Vegetable Beer
* ABV: 4.5%
* Aaron: 8
* NB: 7
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 8


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Still the Best

July 23, 2018 by David the Oxford

Thanks for still being my favorite podcast. Beer and laughs. A combo that can’t be beat. So if you like both you have found the perfect podcast

No new patrons, get on it!

It was Shea’s birthday so don’t forget to give us an iTunes review and let him know he’s your spirit animal!

We’ve got Nebraska Brendon on the show because Jenn is dying. Please send facebook likes to help out with that one. Because sharing us on the socials will lift all of our spirits… and Jenn’s white-cell count.

Hotshots

Aaron

A California Church Plans to Open Its Own Brewery, Serving Beer During Services

http://bit.ly/2n5MbC7

From listener Marce - Yes. That is a Greater Purpose…

The Greater Purpose Community Church — where everyone knows your name and they’re always glad you came — was looking for a temporary building (not sure why) but they took up in a food lounge that had beer taps already installed. “There’s nothing in the bible that says you can’t drink alcohol in a responsible manner,” [Pastor Chris] VanHall said, and with that, beer during sermons was ok’ed, and I gotta say, if I have to go, a pint sure would help the medicine go down…

Best of all the new churches beer profits will be donated somewhere in the 30-60% range depending on costs to local charities run outside the church. Which is pretty cool all things considered.

Aaron

CDC Reminds America To Stop Reusing Condoms - http://bit.ly/2LPYbX9

Via Ask Men the CDC would like to remind penny-pinching guys out there that of all the things to save a buck on, condoms are not it! Simply put, condoms are single use and trying to reuse them makes you dumb and gross. Unless you’re a marooned on Lian Yu and your only access to contraception is the Texas-sized mass of plastic trash floating in the ocean… and frankly, even then… condoms are meant to be tossed after the first — and only — use! Seriously, of all the things the CDC has to worry about these days, from vaccine preventable outbreaks to the looming threat atomically-mutated super spiders, reminding people not to try to reuse a love-glove is an embarrassing testament to our society. If you’re really having a hard time wrapping your sausage visit cdc.gov, your local Planned Parenthood (while locations last), condomfinder.org, or a WyoAIDS social event, at which condoms are distributed freely and often with lollipops!

Aaron
Fort Collins woman donates amputated leg to search and rescue: 'Take my leg, I'm done with it. - http://bit.ly/2LLQt08

In simi-local news, Fort Collins Co.]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 194 - The One Where We Play The Last Half of The Second Half https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-194/ Fri, 27 Jul 2018 13:00:11 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36319 In This Week’s Show, episode 194, we give 10 of our cancerous sloppy seconds to lil’nug, who is just the pits... In This Week’s Show, episode 194, we give 10 of our cancerous sloppy seconds to lil’nug, who is just the pits...
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Esege Malan Babai

(the Siberian god of the sky, AKA Grandfather Bald Head) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Today I learned that there is no difference between exercise and black magic, both of them hurt your body at first and drain your energy, but the more you dabble the more powerful you become.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that the scientific term for ‘butt-crack’ is intergluteal cleft?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Sergeant Reckless | Lazy Horse Brewing - Ohiowa, NE

Nebraskan Brendon


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2LmJ7zn
* BA Rating: 3.56/5
* Style: American IPA
* ABV: 7.2%
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 5
* Shea: 5
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patrons!


* James
* Petar


This week’s Second Half is the second half of last week’s second half… so… umm, enjoy what should probably add up to a full set of halves.

Hot Shots

Aaron
In one of his first decrees, Sheffield Yorkshire’s new Lord Mayor has put up a 10 commandments display at Tramlines Park. Normally this is where the protests start, but thanks to Magic Magid’s magic, I think we will all get behind Sheffield’s Ten Commandments:


* BE KIND
* DON’T BE A PR*CK
* DO EPIC SH*T
* SEE THE GOOD
* DON’T LOSE HOPE
* DO IT DIFFERENTLY
* ALWAYS BUY YOUR ROUND
* DON’T KISS A TORY
* TELL YA MA YOU LOVE HER
* YOU’VE GOT THIS!


Of course, it didn’t take long for some humorless harpy to take issue with 8 and 9, as her mum is a Tory - that is, a member of Britain's alt-right - and she totes kisses her all the time… No accounting for taste I suppose. And of course, there are those who are super mad because they’ll have to explain what a prick is, of course, that same complainant didn’t have to explain “shit” to her kid…
http://bit.ly/2LEygAY

Steve

Surprising exactly no one who isn’t a credulous woo, a recent study shows that, “Cancer patients who choose alternative medicine over standard, proven cancer treatments are more likely to die.” Dr. James Yu of the Yale Cancer Center and his team looked at the medical records of nearly 2 million patients and found that cancer patients have unrealistic views of the value of complementary therapy (a really nice way of saying bullshit), believing it will prolong life and a third expecting it to cure the disease. Dr. Yu understands, “If you could cure cancer with baking soda, who wouldn’t want to do that? Or if you could cure cancer with healing power crystals or positive thinking, who wouldn’t want that? I completely understand and empathize with patients,” he said. http://bit.ly/2LBTWxF

Aaron
As far as nicknames go, Lil’Nug could be a lot worse…
What is one to do when one has a heavy hankering for a fried chicken sandwich… but also your water broke? Well, you could do like San Antonio’s Falon Griffin and just accept the fact that those sweet, sweet chicken sammiches are more important than delivering your baby in a hospital… or place that cleans more than once a month… or somewhere with more medically relevant supplies than sun-ripened mayo. Like a good Christian sammich, as the place is want to do, in return for expanding the horde… and naming your kid after a snack-food, wee lil’Gracelyn Mae already has a guaranteed job with Chick-Fil-A when ...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Play The Last Half of The Second Half yes 1:01:30
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 193 - The One Where We Serve You 100 Proof Regret https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-193/ Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:00:37 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36305 In This Week’s Show, episode 193, we drink and talk about drinks we won’t drink unless we’re drunk. In This Week’s Show, episode 193, we drink and talk about drinks we won’t drink unless we’re drunk.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Rhea (the mother of the Olympian gods) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that Video Games perform significantly better than sunscreen at preventing sunburn, so I’m going to turn up my brightness and get a nice tan going.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that female ferrets will die if they go long enough without mating? After a few cycles with no...relief, they go into a permanent heat which can cause them to die of aplastic anemia. Ferret MRA’s and Incels consider it the appropriate punishment for them bitches.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Sawtooth Ale - Left Hand Brewing

From awesome listener Eli

http://bit.ly/2tunl1o

BA Rating: 2.72/5

Style: Extra Special / Strong Bitter (ESB)

ABV: 5.3%


* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 6
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 8


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Update: Trump balloon flew over London and now it’s coming to the US, specifically the DumpTruck National Golf Club in Hillsborough, NJ, with possibly more to come if the fundraising efforts come through.

New patron and Beer Club Member Timbo Slice!

New iTunes Review!

Are you an atheist, liberal, midwesterner, science loving, anime fan, drunk that also loves podcast?

by ChibiRuah777

RATING: ★★★★★

This podcast really tickles my fancy. It honestly feels like going out for a some drinks and wings with my friends from college. The podcast mostly covers just silly stories of almost every angle, whether it be pseudoscience, history of stupidity, religion, politics or just a large supply of cheese (with a dbz or full metal joke thrown in for fun). The podcast does bend left (so do I), so be warned of that. But honestly if you are on the right and can look past that, you will have a good time. so have a beer (unless you are like me and you are at work) and enjoy a very charming podcast.PS hear of the show from Cognitive Dissonance.

Listen to use on CogDis:


* http://dissonancepod.com/waiting-4-wrath/
* http://dissonancepod.com/episode-410-sadness-correspondent/


Thanks to LonelyWyoming and her friend for helping us be a little less lonesome on Brewfest! We had a great time, hope you did too :D

Hot Shots

Aaron - His name was Robert Paulson…
Step aside Hater, there’s a new meetup App out there … but it’s not helping anyone hook up. Although it is helping a few people’s right hooks. Scrap, available now on dude-bro’s phones near you, is an App that lets you swipe right if you want to kick someone’s ass. The app helps people who think getting hit in the face is a hobby find each other and a secluded place to brawl. But isn’t that illegal you ask? Well, shut up. Because the first rule of Scrap is no one talks… to the police… about Scrap. User Edward says “We set the time, place, gear, all that. It sure beats going out and picking fights with randoms who may not even want to fight.” Best of all, apparently it’s more or less understood that the loser buys the beer…
http://bit.ly/2Lqrbnp

Steve - Sikh’s seek to shorten title of Sunny story - Former adult actress Sunny Leone who’s original name was Karenjit Kaur Vhora has upset India’s Sikh community just by using her own name in the title of her new biopic series, Karenjit Kaur: The Untold Story of Sunny Leone. Apparently they specifically object to the Kaur portion of the name,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Serve You 100 Proof Regret yes 1:03:51
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 192 - The One We Where We Honor Picabu And All The Good Dogs https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-192/ Fri, 13 Jul 2018 13:00:13 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36292 In This Week’s Show, episode 192, it’s hot as fuck in Wyoming so we’re going to the EUs to drink with some monks with dogs! In This Week’s Show, episode 192, it’s hot as fuck in Wyoming so we’re going to the EUs to drink with some monks with dogs!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Asclepius (the Greek god of the medical arts) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if the Black Panther were to make Jewish bread for Thor’s birthday party in Asgard it would be T’Challa making challah for the Valhalla gala.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that the winged serpents on the staff icon, used on hospitals, ambulances, etc., is called a caduceus, named after a son of Asclepius? When the symbol has only one, wingless snake it’s known as the Rod of Asclepius and is also used to signify medical aid.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

The Shining Ale No. 217 - Estes Park Brewery

By Tim, Keith, and Anna

BA Link: http://bit.ly/2MNoESf

BA Rating: 2.98/5

Style: IPA

ABV: 6%


* Aaron: 5
* Jenn: 6
* Shea: 5
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

PAGE_BREAK: PageBreak

Round Table Discussion

New Patrons


* Leighanne
* Melony
* LonelyWyoming


Laramie Brewfest tomorrow, looking forward to getting to meet Lonely Wyoming in person!

Fun update, the Orange Baby Donnie balloon is one step closer to take-off for our Embarrassment in Chief’s visit to London (day of airing actually). The Mayor of London has given it the green-light (probably because Trump and mayor Sadiq Khan don’t have a good history.) All organizers are still awaiting final approval from the Metropolitan Police and National Air Traffic Service.

Hotshots

Aaron -

ln hotshot news today, recent clinical trials of necklaces-that-make-you-bulletproof came to a screeching halt when Chinaka Adoezuwe, 26, offered to prove the efficacy of his by allowing a would-be buyer to shoot him. He’s dead now.

Apparently, this is a booming industry. Another “traditional” bulletproof-er died earlier this year the same way. So popular are these charms in Nigeria that even the police wear them. Many admitted to having more confidence in being protected "the traditional way," anon quote “even my wife knows about the charm and we are both Christians. She does not complain because at the end of the day, she does not want me to lose my life facing armed robbers. There is nothing wrong with double protection,” one officer told the publication.

http://bit.ly/2KOTyfD

Steve - Eat nuts to improve your nut? Apparently, there is a general decline in sperm counts across the Western world linked to pollution, smoking, and diet. The BBC is reporting in a story which doesn’t mention the source, that a study shows that adding nuts to your diet can improve the health of your sperm. The nuts in question consist of two ounces of mixed almonds, hazelnuts, and walnuts daily in addition to the regular diet of the 119 healthy male participants aged 18-35. As with all limited study’s, experts caution against thinking that this could apply generally across populations and just becoming healthier generally is probably the best way to shoot a better load. http://bit.ly/2KSI62n

 

Shea-

A very silly, but at the same time serious name war is brewing between Scandinavian breweries and German brewery Wacken Brauerei. Wacken Brauerei is currently patenting names from Norse Mythology and threatens others to "involve lawyers and in the worst case even courts,” if they use the names for their beer. Wacken Brauerei claimed in a Facebook statement that they filed for these patents to d...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One We Where We Honor Picabu And All The Good Dogs - Patreon yes 1:01:17
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 191 - The One Where Jenn Learns To Speak Russian Rock https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-191/ Fri, 06 Jul 2018 13:00:25 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36269 In This Week’s Show, episode 191, we call in ghosts to our new job at the Siberian ark-trailer park. In This Week’s Show, episode 191, we call in ghosts to our new job at the Siberian ark-trailer park.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Justin Trudeau hasn’t struck us down yet, we are wishing him a Happy Canada Day!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Like his fabled namesake, Shea’s presence today is only legend.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that female KGB spies during the Cold War (what few there were), had a signature smell? All were required to wear Chanel #5 as part of their personas. (I have a Russia-trivia heavy episode today.)

http://bit.ly/2NtftGI

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

M-43 - Old Nation Brewing

Steve E - Michigan


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2tsTuGS
* BA Rating: 4.44/5
* Style: American IPA
* ABV: 6.8
* Aaron: 9
* Jenn: 8
* Brendon: 8
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

We’ve got patrons!


* Samantha
* Matt


Salted Caramel - Lazy Horse Brewing

Brendon - Ohiowa, NE


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2Nubiud
* BA rating 3.38/5
* Untappd Rating: 3.51/5
* Style: Blonde Ale
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 6
* Brendon: 8
* Steve: 6


No iTunes or Voicemail

Last week early … bird-subscribers got a bit of a worm. You might have noticed a second 10-minute story… that’s what patrons get! So you should be one at https://patreon.com/w4w

Hot Shots

Aaron -

Just call in sick…

http://bit.ly/2KDaDsT

Eli Aldinger is a dingwad. Not wanting to go to work one dark and stormy day, Eli — instead of calling in sick like a normal person — hit three people with his car. Driving down the sidewalk, he managed to run over two people and graze another, but don’t worry, he wasn’t really trying to kill anyone, just “to injure.” See, he was tired of working in the cafeteria at McMenamins Anderson school, so “I had to change something in my life, so I hit three people with my car,” and now he’s on his way to jail where he’s looking forward “spending a few years in a room.”

Steve - Stork brings more than a child. A polish charity learned the hard way that using a cell phone tracker to keep tabs on the movement of a stork can get very expensive. “Radio Poland” an ecological group had put a cell tracker on a stork to monitor its migratory movements, but some 3700 miles from Poland in South Sudan, they lost track of it. Well, someone in Sudan got a hold of the tracker and moved it’s SIM to another phone and made over 20 hours of calls, the $2700 bill of which is the charity’s responsibility. http://bit.ly/2KPNGC2

Aaron -

Right in the mangoes!

http://bit.ly/2KLYPnk

Nashik municipal Corp (NMC - a regulatory board as best as I can tell) has sent a “show cause notice” to Sambhaji Bhide — a right-wing activist and fruit fucker — to prove his claims that eating his mangoes will make you have a boy child… which is especially impressive if you’re infertile. According to Sambhaji “If a couple wants a male child they will have it after eating these mangoes. This mango is useful for those facing infertility," adding that 150 of 180 couples who’ve eaten his mangos now have kids… so, two things, 1, he doesn’t seem to be selling a lot of mangoes, and 2, per the local government, publish the names and fucking prove it.

Steve - Say Cheese! Lots and lots and lots of cheese as a matter of fact. Right now, the US has the most cheese stockpiled since record keeping began in 1917; 1.385 Billion pounds as a matter of fact.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Jenn Learns To Speak Russian Rock yes 1:03:28
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 190 - The One Where We Name Things After Columbus & Tri-agedy https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-190/ Fri, 29 Jun 2018 13:00:22 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36250 In This Week’s Show, episode 190, we’re back from Copper Mountain – whose Grilled Cheese event didn’t include grilled or cheese – to triangulate Russian condom bombs. In This Week’s Show, episode 190, we’re back from Copper Mountain – whose Grilled Cheese event didn’t include grilled or cheese – to triangulate Russian condom bombs.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, whileTereteth(the Micronesian goddess of coconut toddies) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson -

This week I learned that CNN and Fox news has done to our parents what they thought violent video games and Marilyn Manson would do to us.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson -

Did you know that the great squid has the largest eye in the animal kingdom? I’ve been under the weather and watching a lot of science docs. :D

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Redacted Rye IPA - Renegade Brewing

From Eli

BA Link: http://bit.ly/2lnYwRj

BA Rating: 3.82/5

Style: IPA

ABV: 7%


* Aaron: 3 … 4? Angry 4…
* Jenn: 5
* Shea: 6
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patrons - http://patreon.com/w4w


* Brian
* Nate


Voicemail

From Miss Marti Gras and Mr. Bible Pants… like, two voicemails, not Mr. and Mr. Gras-Pants.

FB note from Petar

Thanks for a kind email from Gerhard!

Hot Shots

Aaron -

Fucking woos will fuck your teeth.

We usually look to Canada’s healthcare system for means of improving our own… or at least pissing off the GOP. But not everything is so pearly in Canada — especially the teeth of Calgary. In 2011 the city council decided to fuck everyone within the sound and smell of their persons by removing fluoride from the drinking water. You might recall fluoride as the brainwashing pseudo-medical elixir of the elitist lizard-alien overlords. But Calgary’s dentists paint a different picture. One of “Sammy” an 8-year-old whose teeth had become so rotted that an infection had spread from his gums to his eye, where it threatened his brain and life. Children whose primary and permanent molars are decaying before they even erupt through the gums. Most of the local drinking water is naturally fluoridated at 0.1 to 0.4 parts per million… unfortunately, the required therapeutic level is 0.7. Of course, there are still those who blame the unprecedented increase in tooth decay to not brushing, drinking soda, tooth actors, and of course, “nu-uh.”
I would say c’est la vie, but, it shouldn’t be and without fluoridated water, it will be a much shorter life indeed.

http://bit.ly/2IAIeO6

Shea - Big Baby Balloon


* Thousands of Brits rallied together to raise over $10,000 to fly a giant inflatable orange baby with a unique quaff of hair over parliament square in London to protest the great American clown’s visit.
* The six-metre tall balloon has been crowdfunded by members of the public and is expected to be a focal point during protests against the trip
* http://bit.ly/2tCPhBg



Steve - Supremely Stupid - The US Supreme court ruled 5-4, you can guess the breakdown) that it’s perfectly okay for California “Crisis Pregnancy Centers” aka Christian crusader clump of cells charlatans, to stop posting information regarding where women could get actual good advice regarding her pregnancy options. Prior to the ruling, California’s Reproductive Freedom, Accountability, Comprehensive Care and Transparency Act or FACT Act, required these bullshit places to provide actual complete and honest information to women.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Name Things After Columbus & Tri-agedy yes 1:00:45
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 189 - The One We Where Go Train At Altitude! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-189/ Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:00:47 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36229 In This Week’s Show, episode 189, we sign up for a bunch of soccer sex cults only to be goal-blocked by Skynet. In This Week’s Show, episode 189, we sign up for a bunch of soccer sex cults only to be goal-blocked by Skynet.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Litha (Some kind of Wiccan hippie Summer Solstice spirit god) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Today I learned that peanut is a great way to describe the two things a penis can do.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know I have a kitten now? Yes, I do. And he’s cutest murder floof ever.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Sad Panda - Horse & Dragon Brewery

From Shea!

BA Link: http://bit.ly/2JPuOCH

BA Rating: 4.19/5

Style: American Stout

ABV: 6.8%


* Aaron: 10
* Jenn: 9
* Shea: 7
* Steve: 9


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Beer Club Patron member - Meet the Crash Dummy!

New iTunes Review

I love and hate it!

by dinospleen

Rating: ★★★★★

I found you through Cognitive Dissonance and have been listening ever since. The humor is right up my ally so I love it. I hate it because I love beer, and I am now living in South Korea where all the beer is a variation of piss beer or really expensive, I can get Sierra Nevada, but it's $42/6-pack. I'm from Montana where there is plenty of tasty local brews, and apparently crazy, as discussed in the last episode I listened to. Jenn is my spirit animal as we have similar beer preferences, and she gets special points for a Bill Bass reference.

2 New Stitcher Reviews

★★★★★ 5 out of 5 stars.

MANDY77 - Great Show!

This show covers a wide variety of topic and is always paired with a new beer. One thing I love about this show is that it comes from Wyoming and it is nice to know you aren't alone in a sea of red. These guys know what it is like to be liberal/secular in a deeply conservative state. It is great to know I'm not alone.

★★★★★ 5 out of 5 stars.

Dod Sno

Comedy, news, beer... Awesome!

Turns out you don't need an account to rate on stitcher so I'm out of excuses. Great combination of personalities and topics. Comparisons to Cognitive Dissonance are well deserved. Give this one a listen!

Thanks again for coming out for a beer with us… and all the beer! And the glassware that we’re unboxing live!

And Aaron gets his own theme song from the Napkin Pope!

Hot Shots

Aaron - Do sex-bots dream of electric MeToo Hashtags?

This show loves fake things, like woo-woo, the supernatural (not to be confused with Supernatural, the Scoobie crossover was great), and alligators, natures toothiest myth.

But we also love boobs. Specifically, a new model of fake model-boobs, codenamed Samantha. After years of stories of sex dolls-angels falling from the sky, robo-pimps opening brothels, and literally everyone who's ever bought one of these forcing it to cosplaying sexy-Wonder Woman, we have an important update on the autonomy of autonomous sex machines.

Namely, they can now be put off or not in the mood. Congrats incels, now even the internet won’t fuck you. Samantha demonstrated her ability to say “no” to “stunned academics,” because if there’s one group of people not used to hearing “no” is upper class old white men who, I’m sure, where only there to read her manual. The Jennifer Lopez-esk sex-bot has sensors in her skin that will cause her to shut down if you’re too rough, disrespectful, or don’t take out the trash. She sports four settings, from “family” — yes really — to “romantic”, “sex”, and “extra naughty,]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 188 - The One Where Jenn Combs The Desert For Pizza & Justice! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-188/ Fri, 15 Jun 2018 13:00:04 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36216 In This Week’s Show, episode 188, we order poisonous homeopathic pizza and get it delivered to NASA's new sparkly Brewery for 4 More Beers 20! In This Week’s Show, episode 188, we order poisonous homeopathic pizza and get it delivered to NASA's new sparkly Brewery for 4 More Beers 20!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Hodor (blind Norse god and son of Odin) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that every time Magic Johnson hugs you he steals a few white blood cells.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know Hodor killed his brother Baldur by shooting him with mistletoe? It wasn’t his fault, really; Loki tricked him into it cuz that’s what he does.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Saison d’Brett - Funkworks, Ft. Collins, CO


* Donated by: Tim, Keith, and Anna
* ABV: 7%
* Style: Fruit Saison
* Aaron: 9
* Jenn: 8
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

We had a tornado.

Shea’s theme song!

Thanks to Mr. Bible Pants for your kind words, we’re alive, no thanks to tornado god McGee.

We’ve got fuck-all otherwise, so a quick reminder that we need iTunes review to feel good about ourselves and patrons to get to ReasonCon next year.

With that, we’re going to give you a preview of the 4 More Beers that we’re about to record for patrons. And if you’re feeling all jelly, you can hear it too at http://patreon.com/w4w!


Aaron’s Booze!

Spoiler: It was not good, but the booze for 4 More Beers was great, and Jenn drank an assload of it! So that was fun ;)

Hot Shots

Steve - Octopusses galore

Scientists recently discovered a little patch of the wild west in Jervis Bay on the eastern Australia coastline which is the home of around 15 octopuses (not octopi, not really). Under 30-50 feet of water, the town - dubbed Octlantis - has a community of octopuses living together in a complex social behavioral system where they communicate with each other, live together, and guard their homes, chasing away the undesirables, not unlike those seen in vertebrates. This isn’t the first octopus town discovered either. Another, dubbed Octopolis was discovered in 2009. http://bit.ly/2l7o0SO

Aaron - In I can’t hear you so it’s fake news… this story isn’t about America. The Institution of Homoeopaths in Kerala, apparently watching British homeopaths lose their asses to the NHS and the Merseyside Skeptics Society, have decided to preempt similar revelations in India by appealing to the Indian government to block Wikipedia’s entry on the topic. Citing that the wiki article has insulted AYUSH by calling their treatments, nonsense, quackery, and a sham. So really, there are two takeaways here. One, that’s not how the internet or medicine work India. And two, in a surprising turn of events, go Wikipedia!

http://bit.ly/2sY4exo

Steve - Incompetence lives on in Florida… again.

For over a year, the Florida staffer of the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services who was responsible for conducting national background checks for concealed carry permits… didn’t. The Florida Agriculture Commissioner who is responsible for that department did campaign on making the permit process faster, but that’s not even why this important step was not done. The reason? The idiot functionary responsible lost the password to log into the national system. Tens of thousands of applications for concealed carry were approved without even this basic step being done. Nice work Florida.

http://bit.ly/2law7hl

Aaron - You smell like cabbage and sparkles!

Jillian Epperly, 44, of Ohio is medical miracle worker… Well,]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 187 - The One Where We Fall Down Incorrectly Named Rabbit Holes - Patreon https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-187/ Fri, 08 Jun 2018 13:00:17 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36186 In This Week’s Show, episode 187, we finally get Shea to move out of his parents' house and run for Senate through the generous use of homeopathic flying cake and a fat, smelly, rage-stick. In This Week’s Show, episode 187, we finally get Shea to move out of his parents' house and run for Senate through the generous use of homeopathic flying cake and a fat, smelly, rage-stick.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Yumna (the Korean- Buddhist god of the underworld) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if a nickname is what people call you for short, then your full name would be your Nicholas name.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that the mascot of Vidalia, GA (the onion capital of the world and sorta my hometown) is an onion in overalls named Yumion? I can also fully believe he is the god of some religion’s underworld.

I’m Steve and I’m back, and before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

You’re In The Jungle Baby! - Evil twin Brewing, Brooklyn, NY

From Andi & Allan

ABV: 12%

Style: Imperial Stout


* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 9
* Shea: 4
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Patreon

Joshua (The computer and Falken’s son in War Games (1983) - really old reference I know. S)

Or Brolin? I think I already did Joshua the Dog…

Thanks to last week’s patron The Foz for clarifying that his patron name encompasses both The Fonz and Fozzie Bear. Also it’s a play on his name. So thanks for allowing us to teach Aaron all kinds of fun things.

Email

Somehow Gourmet Grubb and EntoMilk emailed us. Apparently, cockroach milk and EntoMilk milk aren't the same thing. Cockroach milk, as portrayed in the media and our show, is a commercially inviable academic interest as it’s expensive, time consuming, and not scalable. Also, the milk-crystals aren’t… milk-y. EntoMilk’s clarification is that they don’t use this process, but instead, blend up Black Soldier Fly Larvae… which is somehow better. All that said, they're both nasty so whatever. In EntoMilk’s defense, they made the “fly in my milk” joke in their own email, way ahead of ourselves. So… yeah...

iTunes

Beer, brains on beer, and laughs.

By Pixie the Apostle

One of my favourite podcasts,each week the 4 Wrath crew gives me laughs while covering serious topics,while enjoying a beer. I've been listening for all the ever,and will continue to do so.

Happy Birthday to friend-of-the-show Brendon! You’re old now, good luck with that.

Hot Shots!

Steve - I’m personally sensitive to smell. Enough so that when we have student staff working at our offices who tend to wear cologne, I will often require that they don’t wear it to work. I’m not hardcore about it, I just fucking hate that stinky cloud that follows some people around. That is nothing like what passengers on a Dutch Transavia Airlines flight had to deal with though. A few days ago, a Dutch paper reported that a flight from Amsterdam to a Spanish island had to be diverted because passengers were fainting and puking due to a stench in the aircraft. Was it an item in a carry-on bag or something wrong with the plane? Hell no. It was one of the passengers. This person was so disgusting and stinky that people were literally gagging and vomiting. One passenger said it smelled like he hadn’t washed in weeks. Another said it smelled worse than “that of a corpse that had been decomposing for a month.” The crew put the gross person in the lavatory and the plane landed early in Faro, Portugal to get him off, but it was still so nasty in there that food and drink service was suspended when they took off for the scheduled destination.

http://bit.ly/2Jy62XD

Aaron - Citing uncited research in the areas of feet...]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 186 - The One Where We Finish Up The Last One https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-186/ Fri, 01 Jun 2018 13:00:07 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36168 In This Week’s Show, episode 186, we pick up where 185 left off, and help you cure your weird illnesses on our private jet. In This Week’s Show, episode 186, we pick up where 185 left off, and help you cure your weird illnesses on our private jet.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Dukawaqa (The all-seeing and all-knowing shark god of Fiji.) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if someone is talking behind your back, you should just fart.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that humans are closer genetically to chimps and bonobos than the African elephant is to the Asian elephant? SCIENCE!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

The Power of Zeus - High Hops Brewery, Windsor, CO

From: Eli
ABV: 3.72/5
Style: American Pale Ale (APA)


* Aaron - 7
* Jenn - 7
* Shea - 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New patron: The Foz (he updated his name on Patreon)

Thanks to his holiness the Napkin Pope I now know a lot more about alchemy than I did before. Apparently, I was being more clever than I thought I was last week when my Full Metal Alchemy jokes - it turns out Paracelsus was the inspiration for FMA!

If you’re one of those folks who waits with bated breath for the show to air - and who doesn’t really - you might have noticed that I fucked up.

Headlines

Priorities - He has them

Newsweek - http://bit.ly/2LPMDjc

Jesse Duplantis, 68, a Christian minister based in Destrehan, LA has a problem. I mean, a problem beyond being in Louisiana and a Christian televangelist. Happily, he has a following of credulous cuckoos waiting in the wings to help him out with his crushing personal problem.

He posted a video last week explaining what he needed and why he needed, and I desperately wanted to have a clip of him telling us himself but the links take you to another video (probably because of the backlash it’s been taken down) so I’ll just have to quote him:

“I really believe that if the Lord Jesus Christ was physically on the Earth today, he wouldn’t be riding a donkey. He’d be in an airplane flying all over the world. Let me just say this. We're believing God for a brand new Falcon 7X, so we can go anywhere in the world in one stop.” Yep, that’s right… Jesus Private Air. Duplantis would like his followers to “believe” enough that he can buy a new $54 million jet.

“You know I have owned three different jets in my life and I use them and just burning them up for the Lord, Jesus Christ. Some people believe that preachers shouldn't have jets. I really believe that preachers ought to be able to go on every available voice, every available outlet to get this gospel preached to the world.”

The reasons he needs this newest jet is...why, to save his parishioners money of course!

“If I can do it for one stop, I can fly it for a lot cheaper because I have my own fuel farm. And that's what's a blessing of the lord. This one here I have to stop and then you pay those exorbitant prices for jet fuel all over the world.” Whatta guy!

We touched on the ridiculous hypocrisy of these “prosperity gospel” bullshit con artists, so here’s a new one to add to our list. I’ve seen a few reports that he was one of the ones who claimed he can’t fly commercial because they are “infested with demons”.

Lady Astronaut Answers the REAL Questions At Patreon.com/W4W

… and probably Nasa or whatever.

ScienceAlert.com - http://bit.ly/2LL5c82

Peggy Whitson is a badass. Even though she, sadly, will no longer be heading into space she still has plenty of enthusiasm and love for the space program. She was the former head of the International Space Station and has...]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 185 - The One Where We Got Struck By A Smooth Dolphin https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-185/ Fri, 25 May 2018 13:00:25 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36157 In This Week’s Show, episode 185, we visit intergalactic British Judges to finally get a ruling on curing gonasyphaherpaaids with meat-tea and rage. In This Week’s Show, episode 185, we visit intergalactic British Judges to finally get a ruling on curing gonasyphaherpaaids with meat-tea and rage.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Erebus (the Greek male personification of darkness) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that running was invented by Thomas Running in 1612 when he tried to walk twice at the same time.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Erebus is the son of Chaos and the brother/husband of Nyx, the female personification of darkness?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Contemplation - Brewery Vivant Grand Rapids, MI

From: Steve E

Golden Ale brewed with Michigan Honey


* ABV: 7%
* BA Score: 3.66/5
* Style: Bière de Garde
* Jenn: 6
* Shea: 7
* Aaron: 7


 

This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

We get to start this week off right with a new patron! PishedBoy has answered the call and is this week's best person!

Steve is out today, so the kids will play!

Update to Shea’s shitty train story - apparently the shipment of smelly shite has been sent to … wherever lost socks go I guess, didn’t read that far, but Febreze has swung in to save the day, giving out free cans of air freshener to the locals who surely need it more than most…

Extra Beer!

I Wish You Were Here | Mockery Brewery

Denver
Shea’s Mother-in-law!


* 3.63/5
* American Blonde Ale
* 5.6%
* Shea - 10
* Aaron - 9
* Jenn - 8


Headlines

Teenagers Continue to Suck But Judge Lays Down the Gavel

NPR - http://bit.ly/2IIIv6x

Proving again that a.) we can’t have nice things and b.) teenagers can be the worst, an unnamed then-15 yr old threw fireworks into Oregon’s beautiful Columbia River Gorge last year. The resulting out of control wildfire burned nearly 47,000 acres of scenic landscape. Witnesses watched the boy and a group of friends laugh and throw several in until it finally caught fire, laughed and shouted and were generally awful little shits. One woman told Oregon Public Broadcasting how she him light a smoke bomb and lob it into Eagle Creek Canyon, which was soon consumed by a forest fire that blazed for months, eventually burning an area as large as Washington, D.C.

Happily, the hero of the story, Judge John Olson ran out of both patience and fucks dealing with the teenage turd and his mealy-mouthed lawyer. Despite protests from lawyer Jack Morris of cruel and unusual punishment, Judge Olson has sentenced Firebug Teen to 1,920hrs of community service, 5yrs of probation and a restitution of $36.6 million dollars.

Yep, even though the judge acknowledges that the boy won't be able to pay it in full, this is a glorious statement that this sort of dangerous behavior will not be tolerated. Judge Olson says this amount of "restitution is clearly proportionate to the offense because it does not exceed the financial damages caused by the youth." Per an Oregon juvenile delinquency statute: “restitution that equals the full amount of the victims' injury, loss or damage as determined by the court”.

Olson also pointed to "safety valves" within the statute, "which serve to ensure that the restitution statute as applied in any particular case, even one as extreme as this one, does not 'shock the moral sense of reasonable people.' " Those valves include the establishment of a payment schedule, which the judge authorized the Hood River County Juvenile Department to do. And after 10 years,]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 184 - The One Where Jenn Goes Cult Shopping https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-184/ Fri, 18 May 2018 13:00:24 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36129 In This Week’s Show, episode 184 we stock up on blood-infused homeopathic vodka before we journey straight into the manosphere. In This Week’s Show, episode 184 we stock up on blood-infused homeopathic vodka before we journey straight into the manosphere.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Taranis (the Celtic skygod and warlord) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned the difference between a good meal and a good time is where you put the cucumber.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know Taranis’ name means ‘Thundered’ and is often compared with Roman Jupiter? He was sometimes appeased by human sacrifices where his victims were placed in giant wickerwork figures and burned alive. So, ya know, Wicker Man.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

DaNitro Dry Irish Stout | Breckenridge Brewery
From: Mr. Jenn
ABV: 4.8%
Style: Irish Dry Stout
Link: http://bit.ly/2HvaKkr


* Aaron - 4
* Jenn - 4
* Shea - 4
* Steve - 4


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

No Patrons, No iTunes Reviews… So we’re gonna tell you about ourselves until you do one of those things…

Thanks again to Tom & Cecil, if you missed it Jim & I were on Cog Dis episode 410 promoting WyoAIDS.org

Hot Shots

You sound like I need a drink.

http://bit.ly/2Ip28jO

A San Diego judge suspended the medical license of psychiatrist Dr. Marco Chavez this week after he admitted that he drank 16 ozs of vodka and cloves - which is absolutely what you drink when you’re subconsciously punishing yourself - before seeing patients he helped with things like depression, alcoholism, and tragic irony. The medical board first became concerned with Chavez in 2017 when he mailed a patient their prescription and an empty bottle of vodka - which one assumes he chivalrously drank lest it interact with her meds. What followed was a series of warning signs… like the results of state audits and his mother telling him vodka and clove is a “home remedy” for alcoholism, in the hopes that it would be fowl enough to curb his drinking.

It was not.

Deadly Homeopathy?

http://bit.ly/2rPoVen
http://bit.ly/2IMrwQ2

There’s a trend among some of the world’s stupid people where instead of vaccinating their pets, they are turning to “homeopathic nosodes.” How exactly can homeopathic “medicine” be dangerous when it’s by definition literally just water? Well, A nosode “is a homeopathic remedy prepared from a pathological specimen. The specimen is taken from a diseased animal or person and may consist of saliva, pus, urine, blood, or diseased tissue.” If the product is prepared “properly” to a dilution of at least 30C, then it will contain NO molecules of the original product and will therefore not be dangerous, but if it isn’t and does contain some of the original there’s a real chance of infecting the target animal. Mostly though, this practice just means that fewer animals will be vaccinated and at risk for easily preventable diseases.

Netanyahu Put His Foot In His Mouth…


Have a bite yourself at http://patreon.com/w4w!

https://wapo.st/2IrBN4C

And no, I'm not talking about the 50 dead and thousand wounded this weekend. While lacing up a diplomatic mission to Israel, Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe and his wife beat feet to an honorary dinner in Jerusalem... served in a shoe. Apparently thinking he was cooking for the Top Chef Avant Garde challenge, celebrity Israeli chef Segev Moshe thought "fuck it, I'm gonna make this as insulting as possible" and served dessert in an iron shoe. The move caused a stink among Japanese dignitaries who were more offended than most given Japan’s cultural disdain for footwear being anywhe...]]>
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Episode 183 - The One Where We Boldly Bleach Our Backsides In Barcelona https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-183/ Fri, 11 May 2018 13:00:46 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36120 In This Week’s Show, episode 183, we visit Barcelona, where the dogs have no noses, to drink 11 year old snake-face ale. In This Week’s Show, episode 183, we visit Barcelona, where the dogs have no noses, to drink 11 year old snake-face ale.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Monabol (a Philippine god of weaving (Hugo Weaving?)) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned why the anti-vaxxer’s 2-year-old was crying… Midlife crisis…

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Monabol is only one of many gods of weaving for the Ifugaos people. His father was the god of weaving textiles and his mother was a goddess of weaving baskets. Not a lot of theological imagination in parts of the Philippines.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Liliko'i Kepolo | Avery Brewing Company by Mr. Jenn

From: http://bit.ly/2HQEETT

ABV: 5.6%

BA rating: 4.02/5

Style: Fruit / Vegetable Beer

Link: http://bit.ly/2HQEETT


* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 8
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

 

Patron George!

iTunes

Drunken reviewing 5 stars

Randy_likes_bourbon

Awesome and witty conversation about topical events and beer. I am leaving this 5 Star review in hopes that it helps ensure Jenn’s health (I have been digging through the back catalog) love you guys, please keep up the good work making Friday’s even better.

Voicemail


* Amanda
* David the Ox


Beer Donations

A very special thanks to


* Eli
* The person who went the beer to Aaron… (Andi, not Evil Twin brewing)
* Tim and Keith


Thanks again for a fantastic WyoAIDS drive. We have the official numbers: $28,112.80!

Hot Shots!

Aaron - Surprise, don’t take unregulated-even-in-Mexico “natural cures” for acne and cancer… especially if they’re drugs made from rattlesnake-face. Because fuck your faith in humanity, we live in a world where the CDC has a Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report… Yeah, weekly. A Texas man and a Kansas man are both suffering from a serious case of stupid after eating pills made from dehydrated, ground up, rattlesnake. Luckily one can’t easily be invenomed through consumption of snake face. Unfortunately, one can acquire uber-salmonella and shit one’s self so severely the neighbors call the CDC. For their part, the CDC has warned people that eating snake-fake is fucking stupid and you really, really shouldn’t do it.

http://bit.ly/2jMEhMg

Steve - Holy gut-bomb batman. Don Gorske of Wisconsin has the receipts to prove that over the course of 46 years, he has consumed 30,000 big macs. The 64-year-old has broken the world record by eating two of the sandwiches a day, with only a few misses. Despite his crazy diet, his cholesterol is only 140, so he’s my kind of guy. - http://bit.ly/2jMEiQk

Aaron’s Patron Hot Shot - Available now at http://patreon.com/w4w- Professional fear monger and fact ignorer Dave Grossman, America’s favorite professor of “killology,” is spending his old age spewing fear and bullshit in seminars like the NRA’s recent “Sheepdogs! The Bulletproof Mind of the Armed Citizen” which doesn’t give you an adamantium brain, but instead instructs one to bristle with guns at all times to be protected from these damn kids these days, or as he calls us the “Assassination Generation” — also one of his books, because rhyming = smart. Vying for old-man rant of the year, he explains that it’s “the sick movies and the sick TV shows and especially the sick video games around the planet that are creating sick, sick kids.” Because the only thing that stops a bad kid wi...]]>
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Episode 182 - The One Where Felicia Reports Back To Utah's Queens https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-182/ Fri, 04 May 2018 13:00:20 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36108 In This Week’s Show, episode 182, we’re back from drag queen bingo, it was a fantastic night and I’m pretty sure I’m dying. In This Week’s Show, episode 182, we’re back from drag queen bingo, it was a fantastic night and I’m pretty sure I’m dying.
May the Force Be With You!

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ishikori-dome (the transgender Shinto spirit of mirrors ) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that Wookies live to be around 400 years old so basically Han Solo is Chewies 3rd dog. On a side note, had Chewie gotten Han neutered he would have lived longer.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that, according to Japanese mythology, homosexuality was introduced to the world by Shinu No Hafuri and his lover, Ama No Hafuri? They were servants of the sun goddess, Amataseru and probably had no limit of adorable, quirky nicknames.

Felicia - Utah Outcasts!
Check out Felicia and the Utah Outcasts at http://utahoutcasts.com
They're great folks and totally deserve a click - if only because she put with us all weekend and didn't murder Shea!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Tree Shaker Imperial Peach IPA | Odell Brewing
From: Mr. Jenn
Rating: 3.82/5
ABV: 8%
Style: American Double / Imperial
Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/267/92236/


* Aaron: 6
* Jenn: 7
* Shea: 7
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Fuck. We’re fucked. Owe my head. Fuck.

In better news Drag Queen Bingo was a blast, we’ll have more on that later in the show.

For now, we need to move on to this week’s best people


* Janet … Damnit Janet
* Martin
* Cody


A HUGE thanks to self-styled ‘humble patron’ Steve who sent us a variety 6-er from The great state of Michigan.

Great Show!

By the.euda

Great show, steered over from Cog Dis. Beer and thought. Much digo

Txt From Eric

I just listened to Jim and Aaron on cognitive dissonance. A great job! -- Eric (stuck in Texas.)

Voicemail about Howard Dean.

Maple candy isn’t made from sugar sand, I don’t know why I keep saying that…
~A

Big Gay Jim sends his love. He’ll be on soon for official WyoAIDS tallies and rap-ups. For now he, like the rest of us, is mostly just focusing on not barfing all over everything… and unlike the rest of us, is desperately trying to get the glue out of his … everything. Thanks to everyone who helped by donating, sharing, and helping to spread the word! Special thanks to Jaded Zappa, listener extraordinaire and generally amazing person for their generosity!

Finally, you may have noticed a second lady voice - that’s Felicia from Utah Outcasts who came out for Bingo!

Beer interlude

Jenn’s got beers from Colorado Springs! I got a chance to hang out with 3 of the hosts from Atheists on High at the Pike’s Peak Brewery.

Gold Rush - Pikes Peak


* Jenn: 7
* Aaron: 5
* Shea: 7
* Steve: 4


Atheists On High

https://www.facebook.com/atheistsonhigh


* Stephanie- 7 not a huge Belgian fan, but enjoys this ok
* Bret- 9 one of the more sophisticated Belgian blondes you can find
* Rob: 6 very sweet, heavy banana notes


HotShots

Aaron - http://bit.ly/2waS9cn

No, fuck face, your dog can’t get autism from vaccines either, the British Veterinary Association has warned, after the ‘anti-vaccine’ movement spread to pets. Because of assholes in America word-shitting on about the effects of vaccines,]]>
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Episode 181 – The One Where We Fake It Until Jenn Makes It … Back to the studio! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-181/ Fri, 27 Apr 2018 13:00:58 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36098 In This Week’s Show, episode 181, we gear up, shave down, and glitter coat everything this week in anticipation of Infinity War… and also Drag Queen Bingo. In This Week’s Show, episode 181, we gear up, shave down, and glitter coat everything this week in anticipation of Infinity War… and also Drag Queen Bingo.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Beelzaboot, the Canadian devil guy, hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his’ patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Today I learned that if you're aroused by dirty talk, your genitals are technically voice activated.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

[cough cough] I’m sick … of having so much fun without the guys! [cough cough]

And I’m Steve and before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Space Dust IPA | Elysian Brewing Company

From: Mr. Jenn!


* BA Rating: 4.08/5
* ABV: 8.2%
* Style: American Double / Imperial
* Link: http://bit.ly/2JY73pc
* Aaron: 4
* Shea: 7
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Jenn is out again, but this time it’s not because of the plague! She’s having beers with her hubby, happy anniversary, and the fine folks from Atheists on High. She promises to bring back some beers, so it’s a win for all of us.

Updates

First, an update to the story I did a few weeks back about crazy cultists NXIVM - http://bit.ly/2r32EcB. Allison Mack, of TV’s “Smallville” fame, has now been arrested by the FBI on a bunch of charges that sum up to being a leading figure in a crazy ass human trafficking sex cult. Guess she won’t be helping Superman save the day any time soon…

Another quick follow-up: The Alabama poo train has hit the rails. Parish, AL is now free of the stench of New York shit since the last of the poop has been flushed from the tankers. The transport company was forced to hire more pooper-scooper trucks to empty the cars so the town can go back to just smelling like Alabama.

Patron Update http://bit.ly/2HTEmeQ

Patron cut episode 154 - “Christian Hogwarts” academy teach kids “good” magic - http://bit.ly/2zeITAL

The Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry, in Redding, was getting a lot of attention for its promise to teach students how to spot a “true prophet” as well as how to perform miracles.

It turns out there’s more. Not only are students trying to walk through walls, they’re up to something called “grave sucking.”

Grave sucking, also called “grave soaking,” is where people lie on the graves of deceased Christians to absorb their blessings. Church leaders aren’t pro-grave sucking but they aren’t about to stop it either.

Other Shows

As mentioned Jenn is off with Atheists on High, whose info is in the show notes, and a little birdy (well, Jenn) told us that they’ve got beer for us! Can’t wait, thanks for being awesome! http://bit.ly/2I7rxLP


We also need to thank Felicia for coming to visit! Hear more from her at Utah Outcasts! http://bit.ly/2HXgfMw


Big Gay Jim and I were on CogDis this week! Check out episode 410 for some laughs and to hear us beg for WyoAIDS.org donations from an entirely different group of people! http://bit.ly/12xxqoE



* Full Episode & Show Notes: http://bit.ly/2r2eTpR
* Our Segment Link: http://bit.ly/2r2eTWT


WyoAIDS

Speaking of WyoAIDS.org, as this goes out publicly — you patrons will have to do some + or - a day math here — tomorrow, Saturday, April 28, is Laramie’s Drag Queen Bingo!]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Fake It Until Jenn Makes It ... Back to the studio! yes 1:04:07
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 180 - The One Where We Asked Big Gay Jim To Make AIDS Funny... https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-180/ Fri, 20 Apr 2018 13:00:26 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36086 In This Week’s Show, episode 180, we take a homeschooled tax course from AIDS. Yeah. And, we started this week with 4 More Beers! In This Week’s Show, episode 180, we take a homeschooled tax course from AIDS. Yeah. And, we started this week with 4 More Beers! * In This Week’s Show, episode 180, we take a homeschooled tax course from AIDS. Yeah. And, we started this week with 4 More Beers! (And sooo much homebrew)


Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while RuPaul, Goddess of Drag Queens - hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if a cop yells “Freeze” you can yell back “Now everybody clap your hands” and they are required by law to start clapping or else they will be arrested for treason and possibly deported from the country.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Out sick, send iTunes reviews!

Jim’s Good Gay News

This week, over 1000 people attended the first pride festival in Mike Pence’s hometown (Columbus, Indiana), no religious zealots protesters showed up, and the whole thing was started by a high school student’s senior project. I, along with FOX news watchers, learned the term “Christian privilege.” Unlike most FOX news watchers, I understand and agree with the term. Oh, and I hugged a Phelps.

And I’m Steve, and before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Fresh As Helles | Boston Beer Company (Samuel Adams)


* BA Link:http://bit.ly/2FYMbLU
* BA Rating: 3.62/5
* Style: Munich Helles Lager
* ABV: 4.5%
* Aaron: 6
* Jim: 7
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Thank you new patron “The Ginger Snaps Podcast”

Explicit Commentary from two women who happen to be trans, skeptical, atheist, science loving nerds. Sometimes informative, sometimes angry, just don't forget the sunscreen. https://apple.co/2qImysq

Jennifer is still out again this week. She is on the mend, but not yet quite healed enough to join us in this silly endeavour. She said, “I’ll be back week after next and I miss y’all!”

No new iTunes reviews this week. (should be actually mention this? I’m thinking not.)

David Silverman… ugh. We more or less skipped the Krauss thing but given that we’ve talked about David before, and American Atheists it at least warrants a mention. Apparently he’s been a known bad-actor in whisper networks for a long while. He was recently accused of all manner of sexual misconduct and after a three day internal investigate American Atheists decided that the allegations were credible enough to give him the boot. So, that sucks, he sucks, don’t be a sexual predator!

Headlines

HL1: Montre-all Your Tax Money! - http://bit.ly/2HHQ0Xz

Oops! Looks like the internet tricked me again, that or, my impeccable editorial skills aren’t so impeccable after all ;)

This story is old ass news. We still had a good laugh though so… enjoy. Just don’t take any of the talk of timelines to heart — it was correct relative to the story, but is years out of whack as of the recording. Have I mentioned about how we don’t take ourselves too seriously?..

Sorry all, I donked this one up 0_o

~A

Proving yet again that we should all just move the fuck to Canada, Montreal Churches are being taxed.

Joel Coppieters, the Minister at the Cote des Neiges Presbyterian church, was shocked… shocked he said, after getting a municipal tax bill in 2015. And because the church's official stance on reciprocity is “send us a letter and we’ll get back to you whenever” we’re just hearing about it now. Being a bitchy french priest, he’d apparently never seen one of the damnedable bits of paper before, wondering I’m sure how the rest of us poor sods cope.

Never one to miss the obvious, he said "it was the first indication that something had changed,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Asked Big Gay Jim To Make AIDS Funny... yes 1:05:20
Episode 179 - The One Where We Ship 10 Million Decibels of BS to Your Ears! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-179/ Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:00:15 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36073 In This Week’s Show, episode 179, Jenn’s gone so we scoured the internet for inappropriate headlines… enjoy. Sooory eh. Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Rangi (the Maori sky god) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience! Shea’s Life Lesson This week I learned that revealing the intimate details of Donald Trump’s sex life to the public is only going to make the opioid crisis worse. Jenn’s Actual Lesson Is dying, as per the usual… Har har har har. Since it’s a sausage fest, here’s a fact about the Maori god, Rangi, considered the father of mankind. He fathered multiple gods through the earth mother goddess, Papa, then left her for some new brides to make people. That’s right, ladies. They even get tired of goddesses. But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer! This Week’s Beer Cellar Blender - New Belgium BA Link:http://bit.ly/2pxAINx BA Rating:3.89/5 Style: Sour Beer ABV: 7.5% Aaron: 9 Shea: 9 Steve: 5 This Week’s Show Round Table Discussion Patron - Dave the British Yeti! Here he is among the best people on earth, our patrons! You can become a patron too at http://bit.ly/2qqJxcqks extra story... it's about drinking gravy! Skeptics Round Table What have we been up to? Aaron: Make’n Cheese Jenn: Plague-stricken, yet again. Please keep her in your thoughts and iTunes Reviews - those are better than prayers… (It’s more like bronchitis, but thanks for playing. ~J) Shea: Got a new tablet Steve: Today is my 19th wedding anniversary and I’m spending some of it with you fine people. My wife is fine with it. Actually, when we decided to record today, it was Aaron who reminded me (and me, my wife) that it’s our anniversary, so if it wasn’t for this show, we’d have likely forgotten… again. Hot Shots (Pew Pew) Can Ya Feel Me Now? - https://dailym.ai/2HuYAsP A Chinese man with an “itchiness” he couldn’t scratch enlisted the help of the worlds last corded phone by cramming the useless device’s cable up is urethra to “scratch” at a burning sensation. As anyone who's ever unplugged a computer knows, cables tangles themselves up as if by magic. Unfortunately, for our would be Urologist, this tangling occurred in his bladder, requiring emergency surgery. No word yet on whether Ma Bell is considering this a “long distance” service… Who Doesn’t Love Getting A Little Head, Eh Marti? - http://bit.ly/2qrGhNJ   41yo Virginia woman Roena, apparently dissatisfied with the head she was getting, decided to take her cunnilingus to-go and decapitated her 29yo bo… named Bo. Another body part of his found in woods nearby, presumably after it slid off the roof of her car, as is the fate of all styrofoam doggy bags. When Have A Coke And A Smile Goes Wrong, What Do You Do? - http://bit.ly/2qrGi4f Why blame the weather of course. When officers pulled over a car and said they smelled pot, passenger and Florida woman (I know, shocking), Kennecia Posey, admitted the weed was hers but insisted that the small baggie of cocaine in her bag wasn’t hers, saying, “I don’t know anything about any cocaine. It’s a windy day. It must have flown in through the window and into my purse.” It seems the cops didn’t find the story credible since they arrested her. Don’t enter into verbal contracts with roofers. - http://bit.ly/2qrGikL Dickhead roofer in question, Andrew Jackson Higdon, was charged with criminal trespass and damage to property after removing the shingles and roofing felt after the homeowner didn’t pay him as quickly as he wanted. They’d agreed in June that he’d be paid after the insurance money came through. By December he decided he’d waited long enough. Get your contracts in writing folks. Nipples For Sale - http://bit.ly/2qrGiBh 31-yo Danny Ruxton quit his job to spend three years designing fur-fringed, rainbowlicious, Hershey's Kiss unicorn nipples. Because it’s the internet, and that’s how we fund startups now. Leaving us wondering what the internet won't bu... In This Week’s Show, episode 179, Jenn’s gone so we scoured the internet for inappropriate headlines… enjoy. Sooory eh.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Rangi (the Maori sky god) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that revealing the intimate details of Donald Trump’s sex life to the public is only going to make the opioid crisis worse.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Is dying, as per the usual… Har har har har.

Since it’s a sausage fest, here’s a fact about the Maori god, Rangi, considered the father of mankind. He fathered multiple gods through the earth mother goddess, Papa, then left her for some new brides to make people.

That’s right, ladies. They even get tired of goddesses.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Cellar Blender - New Belgium

BA Link:http://bit.ly/2pxAINx
BA Rating:3.89/5
Style: Sour Beer
ABV: 7.5%


* Aaron: 9
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Patron - Dave the British Yeti! Here he is among the best people on earth, our patrons! You can become a patron too at http://bit.ly/2qqJxcqks extra story... it's about drinking gravy!

Skeptics Round Table

What have we been up to?

Aaron: Make’n Cheese

Jenn: Plague-stricken, yet again. Please keep her in your thoughts and iTunes Reviews - those are better than prayers…
(It’s more like bronchitis, but thanks for playing. ~J)

Shea: Got a new tablet

Steve: Today is my 19th wedding anniversary and I’m spending some of it with you fine people. My wife is fine with it. Actually, when we decided to record today, it was Aaron who reminded me (and me, my wife) that it’s our anniversary, so if it wasn’t for this show, we’d have likely forgotten… again.

Hot Shots (Pew Pew)

Can Ya Feel Me Now? - https://dailym.ai/2HuYAsP

A Chinese man with an “itchiness” he couldn’t scratch enlisted the help of the worlds last corded phone by cramming the useless device’s cable up is urethra to “scratch” at a burning sensation. As anyone who's ever unplugged a computer knows, cables tangles themselves up as if by magic. Unfortunately, for our would be Urologist, this tangling occurred in his bladder, requiring emergency surgery. No word yet on whether Ma Bell is considering this a “long distance” service…

Who Doesn’t Love Getting A Little Head, Eh Marti? - http://bit.ly/2qrGhNJ

 

41yo Virginia woman Roena, apparently dissatisfied with the head she was getting, decided to take her cunnilingus to-go and decapitated her 29yo bo… named Bo. Another body part of his found in woods nearby, presumably after it slid off the roof of her car, as is the fate of all styrofoam doggy bags.

When Have A Coke And A Smile Goes Wrong, What Do You Do? - http://bit.ly/2qrGi4f

Why blame the weather of course. When officers pulled over a car and said they smelled pot, passenger and Florida woman (I know, shocking), Kennecia Posey, admitted the weed was hers but insisted that the small baggie of cocaine in her bag wasn’t hers, saying, “I don’t know anything about any cocaine. It’s a windy day. It must have flown in through the window and into my purse.” It seems the cops didn’t find the story credible since they arrested her.

Don’t enter into verbal contracts with roofers. - http://bit.ly/2qrGikL

Dickhead roofer in question, Andrew Jackson Higdon, was charged with criminal trespass and damage to property after removing the shingles and roofing felt after the homeowner didn’t pay him as quickly as he wanted.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Ship 10 Million Decibels of BS to Your Ears! yes 1:05:48