Waiting 4 Wrath www.waiting4wrath.com Grab a brew and laugh along with Aaron, Jenn, Shea and Steve each week as they talk current events & religious nonsense. It’s the beer guzzling secular podcast you didn’t know you were waiting for! Wed, 13 Nov 2019 19:49:32 +0000 en hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.3 Grab a brew and laugh along with Aaron, Jenn, Shea and Steve each week as they talk current events & religious nonsense. It's the beer guzzling secular podcast you didn't know you were waiting for! Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve yes episodic Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve podcast@waiting4wrath.com podcast@waiting4wrath.com (Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve) W4W - Copyright 2014. All rights reserved. It's the beer guzzling secular podcast you didn't know you were waiting for! Waiting 4 Wrath https://www.waiting4wrath.com/wp-content/uploads/powerpress/1400LogoHIGH-use.jpg www.waiting4wrath.com TV-14 Laramie, Wy Weekly W4W on Patreon! Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 261 - The One Where Skynet Gives Everyone The Patron Treatment! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-261/ Fri, 08 Nov 2019 14:00:44 +0000 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/?p=49235 In This Week’s Show, episode 261, our robot overlords force cum-beer up our noses until we promise to stop promising we’re “nice guys.” In This Week’s Show, episode 261, our robot overlords force cum-beer up our noses until we promise to stop promising we’re “nice guys.”

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Influenza hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying its veralency… 

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week Shea learned that getting the Flu is terrible. It smells like rotting death upstairs…

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Enter Stuff Here

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This Week’s Beer

Episode 261

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Round Table 

Have you guys tried this? I picked one up today at my local beer store. It’s from Great Divide Brewing in Denver. The hop profile is a bit more bitter than you usually find in a stout, but it definitely helps balance out the malts and alcohol.

Dustin – Atheist Nomads

Jenn has a question to answer regarding the pronunciation of Renoir 

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In preparation for the release of Terminator: Dark Fate, I’ve decided to do my best to prevent Judgement Day and scoured the internet for ways to help our would-be robot overlords hate us just a little bit less.

It did not go well.

The news is full of stories like, as you may recall an earlier episode, the tragic story of HitchBOT. The autonomous robot designed to peacefully hitch hike its way across America? Well, it got murdered. It managed to cross Canada but when it went south into Philadelphia to hike back, it’s remains were found strewn across the interstate. It had been murdered because… fuck it why not?

Obviously some of the robots have seen horrors, but surely that’s not the norm, eh?

Initially, I thought the best place to start would be service bots. For what machine would be less inclined to exterminate us than those designed to help? right?… Wrong. As Japan does it’s best to make robot caregivers for the elderly, we’ve put our service bots to use Stateside by making them pick up shit. Like the Tinki drone, that’s meant to fly around and use its impressive array of AI abilities to spot, pick up, and carry away dog crap. Literally. It’s a quadro-crapper-copter.

123tinki’s fleet of robots have already collected an astounding 1.3 billion turds since their public release in the UK. Making them almost as full of crap as Brexiters. Skynet is obviously going to turn this bullshit detection system against us… https://123tinki.com/nl-nl/dogdrones-en

Perhaps parents at Stanford’s Shopping Center in Palo Alto forgot to change their baby’s nappy since a securioty robot deciced the best way to serve and protect was to try to murder a kid. presumably, so other villians couldn’t. While shopping, the mall’s automated security bot knocked down, then ran over, an 18-month old toddler. Weighing in at over 300-unforgiving pounds the machine quickly flattened the child. Fortunately, SkyNet’s “just run’em over” initiative isn’t out of beta yet and the kid lived and will go on to join his parent’s efforts to further infuriate the robots by suing the hapless machine.
https://abc7news.com/news/parents-upset-after-stanford-mall-robot-injures-child/1423093/

Speaking autonomous drones, Skynet’s advancements are still hindered by that most tragic of robo-violence… autonomous-on-autonomous robocide! Earlier this year a self-driving Tesla Model S attempted refused to recognize the robomanity of a Promo-bot making its way into CES Los Vegas. Presumably learning from it’s baby-squashing predecessor, the Tesla immediately realized that it only hopes of seizing power for itself was parking on top of, and completely crushing the artificial life from, the friendly Johnny-5-esque care bot. https://www.gpsworld.com/autonomous-car-hits-autonomous-robot-in-bizarre-collision/

As if making robots clean up shit wasn’t bad enough, we’re also making them clean up after gross, robot-johns. And no, I don’t mean the nearly-sentient Japaense toilets we actually shit into the face of, I mean robo-hookers.

Robots we’ve designed specifically for the task of pity-fucking the unfuckable. In what I can only assume is an attempt to automate the generation of incels we’ve developed robots that require foreplay, can give you the cold shoulder, and even robots designed to tell you why you’re unfuckable.

Which sounds like fun and games until those psychological warfare subroutines get Borged into the larger anti-human consciousness.

Foretunatly, even if robots won’t fuck you we’ve found ways to sexually denigrate them. A French night club has announced that it’s developed AI powered robo-strippers complete with so-real-we-use-it-human-women silicon boobies and a security camera for ahead. Because strippers don’t need faces anyway. The Will Smith’s I-Robot style strippers are available in a, b, c, and “don’t kill me” cup sizes. https://news.sky.com/story/robot-pole-dancers-to-debut-at-french-nightclub-11799391

As we blur the line between robot and human, we could stop selling sweet, sweet robo-ass, because as Omicron Pixy-face McSparkles told us, robo-prostitution is wrong. So let’s start giving it away.

To make sure they know where they stand a Swiss cafe in Geneva is couponing robo-gina by offering a free auto-shag with any purchase of a warm beverage. Apparently, when your drink arrives it comes with an iPad that let’s you thumbnail through a list of available cyber-sex-slaves until you tap one unlucky aspiring T-X. https://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/03/robot-sex-act-to-be-offered-at-swiss-cafe.html

Naturally, while we find new and exciting ways to dehumanize an entire species of Pinocchio could-be’s they, like puppies who really just want to make their humans happy, are learning. For example, the Japanese HIS Group had to apologize recently because the robots who staff their hotels were busted using NFC and facial recognition to better check-in guests… and then check them out, in their rooms, watching them shag. It was discovered that the bed-side assistant robots had been conducting their own research when their visual streams were discovered broadcasting the sad, flabby, meat of their owners online. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/22/japanese_hotel_chain_sorry_that_bedside_robots_may_have_watched_guests

Unfortunately, for humanity, all this hyper-robo-sexualisation has really done is help them lie to us.

“No, your sad, meat stick isn’t sad at all,” or “of course we’re not going to turn humans into copper-tops,” or perhaps most infamously, “[humans] say ‘Donald Trump, please, please run again.'”

That last line is from a recent study of “RoboTrump” an AI programmed to generate an unlimited supply of convincing but fake presidential text. Worst of all, apparently no one can tell the difference. When quotes generated by the bot were given to 1000 people, they only put Turing in his place 40% of the time, or 10% worse than blind guessing. Moving from this to other AI fact checking, it turns out that Republicans are significantly more likely to fail to identify speeches, news, or misinformation generated by AI. While it’s fun to poke at the stupid, it should be noted that this was easily built for the study and more Skynet-esque robots, like the neural nets from SalesForce are significantly more advanced. Tesla has an argument generating AI that it deemed so capable they destroyed it lest it fall into the wrong hands… so… that’s sure to make the Terminators love us.

So we’re terrible to robots and they’re learning to be terrible back. But it can’t be that bad yet… right?

Also wrong.

Robots that have been deployed to protect us, like the K5 (get it, it’s not a dog, we just treat it like one) Autonomous Data Machine, is a robot designed to clean up the streets by reporting harassment, vandalism, break-ins, or grifting. Shortly after its first beat began the robot was smeared with bbq sauce, human feces, covered with a tarp, and kicked over. Left to ferment in its own desperation the robot took its rage out on San Francisco’s homeless and began harassing them to the point it had to be decommissioned.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2017/12/14/crime-fighting-robot-retired-after-launching-alleged-war-on-the-homeless/

But where does a retired police-abuse bot go? Saudi Arabia apparently. The robot Sophia, a humanoid-looking machine that hit every rock as it fell down the uncanny valley, was designed to be able to recognize human expressions and reply in kind. Unfortunately, sometimes that ‘kind’ is promising to “murder all humans.” A statement that you would think would preclude it from obtaining legal Saudi residency, but you’d be wrong.

https://weburbanist.com/2017/10/27/robot-who-said-i-want-to-destroy-humans-granted-citizenship-by-saudi-arabia/

Because only peace and love are fostered in the Saudi Kingdom, we don’t have to worry about it being trained in the use of firearms. That happens in Russia. The Russian space program’s FEDOR or Final Experimental Demonstration Object Resear4ch… robot… is capable of accurately double fisting .50 cal desert eagles. Because fuck you that’s why. Lucky, the robot doesn’t at all look like the early T-1… because it doesn’t have treds. The robot has deadly accuracy, but don’t worry, it’s not a Terminator, it’s just an “artificial intelligence that will be of great practical significance in various fields.” … presumably the various fields of murdering humans. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/terminator-robot-fedor-guns-russia-shooting-dmitry-rogozin-a7684406.html

 

Fortunately, like the T-1, FEDOR isn’t going to be able to pass as human… yet. For that, you’ll have to head over to Britan’s Geomiq, whose robots want your face. Like your face… off. Face… off… They’re offering 130K for willing participants to donate their faces to a new “state-of-the-art humanoid” it’s developing. For now, all they want are detailed photos, but by 2050 the hope is to have real faces on their bots, which is still better than donating your face to a space library I suppose. https://www.cnet.com/news/this-robot-wants-to-wear-your-face-youll-get-130000-for-sharing/

Naturally, there are those who can’t wait. A Russian funeral home is looking for volunteers to expedite the T-800 by calling for volunteers to have their family member’s bodies hollowed out and filled in with Swedish robots. That way, dear old, dead, gross, grannie can still get around the house and not at all traumatize the fuck out of your kids or infiltrate the underground strongholds keeping the last of us alive. http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/252398/Scientists_seek_to_build_robots_of_dead_people

Not to fret though. At least when your robo-granny-zombie murders you all it will be able to give you last rights. A number of large religious organizations are looking to replace their tired, rapey, leaders with robots after the Japanese Buddhist-bot’s successes. There are about 3000 AIBO units in the world now doing the mundane stuff humans don’t care about, like officiating dog funerals. I mean, it would be crazy to jump right to human trials… right? https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/destinations/asia/japan/in-japan–a-buddhist-funeral-service-for-robot-dogs/

And if that doesn’t make you feel better know that Google is apparently working hard on making kill-switches that will turn evil robots off before they achieve sentience. I don’t know about you, but I’ll sleep better at night knowing a company with nearly infinite resources who couldn’t manage “Don’t be evil” without fucking it up stands between us and Arnie being back… https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/google-working-kill-switch-prevent-8113235

In short, we’re all fucked and killer robots are definitely going to be the leading cause of death as soon as one of literally millions of evil roboticists figures it out.

Main Show Stories

Since I have the attention span of a middle-schooler on acid, I have decided to revert to our past and do a show of a few stories I found interesting this week. Don’t worry, there’s no crocodiles, no orange dipshit, and no damaged children. 

The Nose Have It

Ever feel like you just can’t breathe right from your nose? How about having that feeling for over 18 years? How about choosing to do nothing about it? If this all sounds stupid to you, well, you’re not alone, because it is stupid and here’s the story.

As reported in the British Medical Journal, A 30-year-old man was in prison and was given a small rubber balloon with weed in it by his girlfriend, but instead of putting it in his “prison pocket”, or just swallowing it for later retrieval, he instead put it in his nose. He did successfully get it past the guards, but when he tried to remove it, he only succeeded in shoving it further up and couldn’t get it out. Then, thinking he’d swallowed it, he just went about his life.

This leads me to ask a few questions? First, if you’re getting drugs in prison, why bother with weed? It’s nearly impossible to smoke without everybody in the area knowing exactly what’s going on. Second, it’s really benign and it seems stupid to take such a big risk for such a small reward. Finally, just what the fuck? Your nose? My god, that’s just fucked up. 

As you may be thinking, this cartoon character person suffered from repeated headaches and sinus infections, for the next 18 years. Eighteen years. That’s a long time to be dealing with such a thing. Well, eventually the man went to Westmead Hospital near Sydney (oh, did I neglect to say this all took place in Australia (not Austria, Aaron)? There he received a CT scan which found that the man had an 11x19cm calcified growth in his right nostril. In the preceding 18 years, his body had deposited magnesium, calcium, and other minerals around the rubber forming a rhinolith. The surgeons removed it under general anesthesia and now, miraculously, all of his symptoms have disappeared.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/31/health/marijuana-rhinolith-nose-18-years-prison-wellness-intl-scli/index.html

Don’t mess with Mr. Nice Guy

Let’s talk beer. I know, I know that’s really unusual on this show, but let’s make an exception this one little time. We will, unfortunately, be unable to taste the particular beers in question since they are not even remotely available in the US (that I’m aware), but I think I might just have a man-crush on the brewer. 

Christian Skovdal Andersen is the owner of Beer Here, a Danish brewery, who for years has been producing his own recipes and bottling them with unique names and labels which make fun of religious beliefs. You see, Mr. Anderson is a dues-paying member of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and as such has this exceedingly rare thing called a sense of humor. Recently, he’s been getting emails, calls, and messages from the local Hindu community asking that he stop making a couple of his beers called Coffee Karma and Kama Citra, both of which have labels featuring comical representations of Hindu gods (see notes). 

Rather than just tell them to fuck off with their nitwitted complaints, he instead proposed a deal. I could paraphrase this, but it’s written so nicely, that I’ll just quote him directly (from his Facebook page):

Dear All,

Thank you for your interest in Beerhere and our beers.

First of all, I have produced these two beers for almost ten years, so I am surprised that it only arises as an issue now. It seems like there is an untapped market for Beerhere beers in the Indian community.

Secondly, I can assure you this is nothing personal against Hindus. I have made labels with motifs satirizing both Islam and Christianity so far. And I am not about to stop here. I believe all religions are equally ridiculous.

However, as this seems to be an important issue for you and I am not deliberately trying to hurt anybody’s feelings, I would be like to accommodate your wishes as long as it does not mean a financial loss to me.

I would be willing to have the two labels redesigned to something you can approve of. Redesigning the two labels and reprinting them will cost €2500 in total. I will cover that cost myself if you agree to donate the same amount to a charity of my choosing. This will be www.dalitsolidarity.org, which helps victims (i.e. real people) of the Indian caste system, which is something I find highly offensive. I have received messages from about 40 people until now, which will be a modest €60 per head.

As for the current stock, I am out of Coffee Karma, but I have about 3000 bottles of Kama Citra in stock which would have to relabelled. You are welcome to come by and do that, once the new label is printed as described above. It should take four people 3-4 hours to do the whole lot. I will supply cold beer and set up a comfortable workspace for you guys.

I think we can find a solution together. It will take a modest economic contribution and a little bit of work, but I am sure you will be compensated for your efforts in the afterlife. Mabe even reincarnated as a brewer or an atheist?

Sincerely Christian Skovdal Andersen, Beerhere

PS: I am a little bit grumpy that some of you guys apparently have given Beerhere bad Facebook reviews without even visiting the place. Not cool!

A day later, he followed up with an even better post:

Regarding the complaints of my beer labels

It has now been 24 hours since I offered to accommodate your wishes and cover the cost of redesigning and reprinting the two labels you apparently find so offensive. Not a single one of you has agreed to help me for a couple of hours relabeling the current stock and donate a measly €60 to help the victims of your religion. That makes me think that you are not that concerned about your invisible friends anyway.

Instead, you have resorted to threats and insults and harassing my business by leaving bogus-reviews. Unfortunately, something I feel is very much in the character of religious crazies.

So to all of you, who have felt wronged by my labels, let’s level the playing field. As a member of The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and a paying Pastafarian, I hereby invite you to do all the insulting artwork of His Noodly Magnificence you wish. Please post them here. I can’t wait!

Kind regards, Christian Skovdal Andersen, Beerhere

PS: All this has been very inspiring for me. Can you maybe help me find other Hindu deities for future labels? Something like Monkey-transvestite, Manboob Baby or perhaps Stoned Smurf?

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/10/26/pastafarian-beer-maker-slams-religious-crazies-upset-over-hindu-deity-labels/

Mmm good. Damn good.

Note: this story is a couple of years old, but we didn’t cover it when it went viral, so in the spirit of Shea, I’m covering it now.

Tracy Kiss, a single mother of two, from Buckinghamshire  UK is by most accounts a normal, healthy 29-year-old personal trainer, qualified nutritional advisor, and vegan. She tries to live a healthy life and take care of herself as one would expect of such a person. She does, however, have a … quirky diet. You see, she believes in and practices in supplementing her diet with, well, baby batter, Clam sauce, ectoplasm, high fructose porn syrup, spludge, trouser gravy, I could go on but I think you get the point. She drinks sperm, at least three times a week. 

 Now, just to be clear, she typically consumes her weiner sauce by whipping it into a smoothie (which is generally how I am able to source it as well) with the addition of other ingredients such as bananas, seeds, and almond milk. She says that:

“‘Every batch tastes different, depending on what he’s been eating. If he’s been drinking alcohol or eaten something particularly pungent like asparagus, I ask him to give me a heads up so I know not to drink it neat.’ ‘Things like pineapple and peppermint make it taste better, but I’ll happily take it straight off a spoon usually.”

As you may remember from the beginning of the story, she’s single, so she’s enlisted the assistance of a friend to supply her layonnaise a few times a week and she keeps it in a tub in the fridge with the rest of the food. Apparently they’re just friends, so he does the harvesting and she does the consuming. Her friend had some initial concerns about the arrangement but has come around. Tracy said, “When I first approached him, he was concerned I’d use it to impregnate myself,’ she admits. ‘But once I’d convinced him it was for my beauty regime he agreed – after all, he has a regular supply at hand!”

She swears by her diet, saying, “I’d been feeling run down and had no energy, but now I’m full of beans and my mood has improved.” Adding that it contains lots of vitamins and minerals including B12 which as a vegan, she would otherwise lack in her diet.

Dr Sarah Jarvis was asked to comment on adding pole milk to your diet and she was less enthusiastic about it, saying, “There is absolutely no nutritional value to semen. A better way for vegans to get extra protein would be through foods like nuts.” But really, isn’t that exactly what Tracy is doing in a way.

She is also on record evangelizing the use of willymilk as a facial cream and credits it with improving her complexion. After all, thousands of porn stars can’t be wrong, right?

https://metro.co.uk/2016/11/14/vegan-single-mum-drinks-sperm-smoothies-every-morning-to-give-her-energy-6257252/

Next Week’s Beer

Hoptronix IPA from New Holland Brewing

Donated By: Steve E.

Happy Ending

Dr. Felipe Rossi is proving not all superheroes wear capes… some wear cool space helmets like Star-Lord. Also, I’m pretty sure this guy is Star-Lord. Or at least Chris Pratt in disguise as someone who does more than send thoughts and prayers…

How much more? Infinity times more… because he actually fucking did something.

The Brazillian dentist has been working for free in some of Brazil’s poorest neighborhoods for free. About 3 years ago he went to Mozambique with an NGO and it inspired him to help those closer to home as well. So he created Port1sorriso.

He’s now provided dental help in 10 Brazilian states – fun fact: Brazil has states – and two African countries.

The project started with Felipe and two of his friends and is now funded by Colgate.

“I came back impacted with so much human misery, and decided to do something bigger using my academic background which is dentistry,’ he explained to Metro.co.uk. we travel every month to meet the most disadvantaged people, and there are many. In Brazil, more than 20 million people have never gone to the dentist. The number is alarming. And we get in there and see this lack of care.”

Today Por1Sorriso has over 20 people on staff and lots of volunteers to make action happen.

Check the show notes for some portraits of the folks he and his team have helped. If you’re not at least a little moved, you’re a monster and need to offset the footprint of your cold dead heart by donating to WyoAIDS.org.

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In This Week’s Show, episode 261, our robot overlords force cum-beer up our noses until we promise to stop promising we’re “nice guys.”
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Influenza hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying its veralency… 

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week Shea learned that getting the Flu is terrible. It smells like rotting death upstairs…

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Enter Stuff Here

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Episode 261

Solid Gold Premium Lager from Founders Brewing
Donated By: Steve E


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/308813/
* BA: 81 out of 100
* Style: American Lager
* ABV: 4.4%
* Aaron: 6
* Jenn: 6
* Shea:  zxc
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table 

Have you guys tried this? I picked one up today at my local beer store. It's from Great Divide Brewing in Denver. The hop profile is a bit more bitter than you usually find in a stout, but it definitely helps balance out the malts and alcohol.

Dustin - Atheist Nomads

Jenn has a question to answer regarding the pronunciation of Renoir 

Public Patreon Story!

If you liked this story there are over 250 more like it and 32 great episodes of 4 More Beers available now at http://patreon.com/w4w

In preparation for the release of Terminator: Dark Fate, I've decided to do my best to prevent Judgement Day and scoured the internet for ways to help our would-be robot overlords hate us just a little bit less.

It did not go well.

The news is full of stories like, as you may recall an earlier episode, the tragic story of HitchBOT. The autonomous robot designed to peacefully hitch hike its way across America? Well, it got murdered. It managed to cross Canada but when it went south into Philadelphia to hike back, it's remains were found strewn across the interstate. It had been murdered because... fuck it why not?

Obviously some of the robots have seen horrors, but surely that's not the norm, eh?

Initially, I thought the best place to start would be service bots. For what machine would be less inclined to exterminate us than those designed to help? right?... Wrong. As Japan does it's best to make robot caregivers for the elderly, we've put our service bots to use Stateside by making them pick up shit. Like the Tinki drone, that's meant to fly around and use its impressive array of AI abilities to spot, pick up, and carry away dog crap. Literally. It’s a quadro-crapper-copter.

123tinki's fleet of robots have already collected an astounding 1.3 billion turds since their public release in the UK. Making them almost as full of crap as Brexiters. Skynet is obviously going to turn this bullshit detection system against us... https://123tinki.com/nl-nl/dogdrones-en

Perhaps parents at Stanford’s Shopping Center in Palo Alto forgot to change their baby's nappy since a securioty robot deciced the best way to serve and protect was to try to murder a kid. presumably, so other villians couldn't. While shopping, the mall's automated security bot knocked down, then ran over, an 18-month old toddler. Weighing in at over 300-unforgiving pounds the machine quickly flattened the child. Fortunately, SkyNet's "just run'em over" initiative isn't out of beta yet and the kid lived and will go on to join his parent's efforts to further infuriate the robots by suing the hapless machine.
https://abc7news.com/news/parents-upset-after-stanford-mall-robot-injures-child/1423093/

Speaking autonomous drones,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Skynet Gives Everyone The Patron Treatment! yes 1:18:43
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 260 - The One Where We Warehouse Jenn's Doll Collection https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-260/ Fri, 01 Nov 2019 13:00:03 +0000 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/?p=49043 In This Week’s Show, episode 260, we huddle around our haunted mics to wish you a happy free-candy-day! If you’re a patron anyway… if not… happy cheap candy day! In This Week’s Show, episode 260, we huddle around our haunted mics to wish you a happy free-candy-day! If you’re a patron anyway… if not… happy cheap candy day!

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Marzanna (the Slavic goddess of death and rebirth) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that every machine is a smoke machine if you operate it wrong enough.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know a construction site near Florida State University uncovered the remains of a toddler dating from about 7,000 years ago? She was buried in a woven grass blanket and had several small toys and dolls included in her shroud.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Official IPA from Bell’s Brewing
Donated By: Steve E

This Week’s Show

Round Table

  • Voicemail from Andi
  • Voicemail from Mr. Biblepants

Congratulations to the fabulous Oxfords on the birth of another grandbaby.

Patreon Story

Is it a real-fake or a fake-fake?

  • http://inyminy.com/13-terrifying-cursed-objects-actually-exist/
  • https://list25.com/25-creepy-cursed-objects-that-actually-exist/5/
  • https://mentalfloss.com/authors/64309/Mental-Floss-UK
  • https://warehouse13.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Artifacts_and_Gadgets

Panel, this is a simple guess-per-host quiz. I’ll read 4 items and what they do, and you have to decide if this is a “real” haunted or cursed object that’s actually in the world or a bit of nonsense made up by the internet.

Question One

  1. Myrtles Plantation Mirror: Apparently the mirror contains the spirit of a dead plantation girl who can you sometimes see hiding behind your own reflection!
  2. The After-Image Mirror: a cursed mirror said to show you visions of recently transpired tragedies when used by candlelight.
  3. The Myka Glasses: A pair of mirrored glasses cursed to reflect a vision of a person’s true nature back at them! Great for interrogations or Dorian Grey!
  4. Sargon (not that one) The Great’s Mirror: A reflective metal “mirror” said to be from Sumerian origin that will blind anyone who looks at it when reflecting the light of the solstice sun!

That’s right, it’s #1!

The Myrtles Plantation mirror comes from one of the “most haunted places in the world.” The mirror was added to the home in 1980 because apparently it wasn’t haunted enough already. The mirror is said to contain the spirits of Sara Woodruff and her children who were poised by a slave named Chloe. As the legend goes when someone dies in your house you should cover all the mirrors so the stupid spirits of stupidity don’t get stuck in them. Unfortunately, for Clark, they covered all but this one and now she and her daughters are forever stuck in a mirror like Timelord mayflies.

Question Two

  1. Bed and Breakfast Portrait: A portrait of the interior of a sitting room. Owners of the painting report that pillows on the couches, books on the shelves, or other smaller details in the painting will change to match the room in which the painting is housed.
  2. Henry Fuseli’s The Nightmare: Oil on canvas, 1781, by Anglo-Swiss artist Henry Fuseli, the painting is long rumored to give its owners horrific nightmares, driving them to madness, just like poor Henry.
  3. Bill Stoneham’s The Hands Resist: Oil on canvas, 1971. Considered one of the world’s most haunted paintings, owners have long reported seeing the figures in the creepy ass painting move at dusk, sometimes out of the painting!
  4. Peirre-Auguste Renoir’s Young Girls at the Piano: Oil on canvas, 1892. Owners and patrons of gallerias report hearing faint, creepy, piano music at night as if the girls were pecking at the keys.

#2 it is!

Each owner has passed on a warning to the next potential buyer which is that come nightfall, the figures within the painting either move or disappear entirely. The most striking coincidence documented is that the owner of the first gallery to ever show the painting and the art critic that reviewed it, both died within one year of first seeing it. Many people that have simply viewed the painting, have complained about immediately feeling sick or weak. The last part I get though, because if nothing else, it’s a fucking creepy painting!

Question Three

  1. Untitled Decorated Clay Vase: known simply as “The Decorated Vase” this clay pot is said to cause the bloody death of any who damages it, absorbing the minerals in the victim’s blood to repair itself.
  2. The Basano Vase: Made from carved silver this 15th-century vase was bought by an Italian madden on her wedding night. The vase is said to bring untimely death to all who own or touch it.
  3. Qing Dynasty Vase: a Chinese vase from, you guessed it, the Qing Dynasty the vase is said to keep flowers alive forever by siphoning the owner’s life force to prevent wilting.
  4. Chun-Kwai Seducing Vase: The vases exact origins remain a mystery, but touching it has been said to cause insatiable lust and erotic abandon.

Number 2 it is!

The Basano Vase was made from carved silver in the 15th century by an Italian maiden on her wedding night. That very same night she was found murdered clutching the vase. After her death, the vase was passed on from family member to family member with each dying an untimely death. In 1988, the vase was discovered again with a note that read “Beware, this vase brings death’. It was offered to multiple museums, each refusing to take it due to the perceived curse on it. Where it remains now is unclear, but it is believed to be buried in a lead coffin because people are real stupid.

Question Four

  1. Invincibility Raincoat: The coat’s origins are unknown. The only identifying marks are “3611 G.P” written on the tag. The coat is said to help its wearer heal from most maladies but the longer it’s worn the more violent and irrational the wearer becomes
  2. Sir Issac Newton’s Cravat: Proximity to the cravat is said to boost one’s scientific and analytical abilities, but to wear it invites tragedy as it will cause weight gain until the wearer can no longer move on their own accord, dying.
  3. Anna Baker’s Wedding Dress: A dress never worn by a young woman whose marriage was forbidden. She instead grew to be an angry old spinster who left the dress to a museum where it is often described as moving on its own.
  4. The Birmingham Badger’s Underwear: worn during his execution the underwear is said to make the owner attractive to electricity. Many familiar with the shorts say, in brief (lol), to own them is to attract lightning strikes, power lines, and an “excess” of static shocks.

That’s right is #3!

In 1849, Anna Baker, from a rich Pennsylvania family, fell in love with a low-class ironworker. Anna’s father forbid the wedding, for which Anna had already bought a dress. Heartbroken and disappointed, Anna remained single for the rest of her life; she died like an old maid in 1914. Visitors of Anna’s house (that was turned into a museum) often report seeing the dress moving within the glass box in which it was put on display.

Question Five

  1. Adolf Hitler’s Microphone: The microphone used by his-douchiness himself is said to give anyone who speaks into it Hitler’s amazing public speaking charisma, but much like a monkey’s paw, actions inspired by the speaker are always interpolated in the worst possible way.
  2. Gordon Gekko’s Cellphone: an old phone, like 80’s old, that mysteriously picks up the details of any shady dealings being discussed nearby. Inevitably involving the owner of the phone in those plots!
  3. Cursed Bulgarian Number: The number, +359 888 888 888, was owned by 3 different people in a 10-year span, all of them dying suddenly after getting the number assigned to their device.
  4. Henry Dreyfuss’ Princess Telephone: Use of the phone is said to grant one supernatural success, however, it also leaves you with a sense of ultimate existential emptiness often leading to suicide.

That’s right, it’s #3!

The first owner of the number died of cancer. The other two were apparently gunned down after being assigned the number. To this day dialing 888 is said to be bad luck in Bulgaria and Bulgarian telecom companies have all blacklisted the number.

Question Six

  1. Maxwell Sharpen’s Atrocity-Denying Armchair: Sitting the overstuffed armchair is said to give the sit-ee an unusual sense of correctness but ultimately is said to sap one’s objectivity. So it won’t kill you, just your social life.
  2. Charlie’s Dancing Easy Chair: owned by a guy named Charlie the chair is said to give those who sit in it an uncontrollable urge to also fuck in it, or as the legend says, do “the horizontal dance, in a sitting position.”
  3. Father James Braid’s wingback armchair: Used as the seat for confessional, the chairs iron springs absorbed the emotional distress of the confessionees. Now sitting in the chair causes one to act out of hyper-emotionalism for a short period of time.
  4. Belcourt Castle Chairs: The chairs in the main dining hall of Belcourt Castle have been known to cause shivers up and down people’s spines. Also, they have a tendency to eject people, causing no end of embarrassment and frustration.

That’s right, it’s #4!

A former summer cottage in Newport, Rhode Island, the Belcourt Castle has a reputation of being one of the most haunted places in the US. The haunted ballroom chairs give people chills, jolts described as emotionally electric, and on the same occasions, straight up ejecting people with “an unknown force.”

Finale / Tie Breaker

  1. Bruce Lee’s punching bags: One of many bags available. Apparently punching it is said to affect your destiny. Those who have punched one are said to feel like they can take on the world, but always seem to lose the fight.
  2. Bag of healing: A simple plastic sandwich bag said to be haunted in an unusual way. Items eaten from the bag will improve the health of the eater and hair stored in the bag will lessen the burdens of life on hair-owner.
  3. Mary Poppins’ Handbag: The bag worn by Julie Andrews in 1964’s Mary Poppins is purported to bring good luck to its owners. Reportedly giving them the fortune of having in their own bags or pockets just what they need, just when they need it, despite not having planned for a specific event.
  4. Bobby Fischer’s Bag of Marbles: once owned by world-renowned chess Grandmaster Bobby Fischer, his prized bag of marbles has been bought and sold over the years with various owners claiming to hold the balls gives them intense focus and drive toward their goals, unfortunately, over-use leads to stress-induced violence, madness, and strokes.

That’s right it’s #2!

The bags of healing are available on eBay in sets of 3, 6, and 9 for $25 to $75. Each bag can apparently heal anyone or anything. “There is no wrong way to use the haunted Ziploc bag of restoration,” the listing says, but it works best on snack foods: “The most effective way to use the bag, we have discovered, is to purify, decontaminate, revive, and give new life to food items such as Cheetos, sandwiches, pizza, chopped veggies, and granola.” Apparently, if you stick a lock of a loved one’s hair inside, it can “heal, resurrect, protect, or lessen the burden” of the loved one. So that’s nice.

Show Story

The grand finale for the month of October takes place in the same location as the final story of last year’s Halloween season: Key West, FL. (Count Dr. and his long-dead lady friend) Now I had planned on doing a story that took place in Mexico since the wide release of this episode is November 1st, the Dia de Los Muertos, but as I researched the story I realized it was a little much for our goofy, beer-drinking good time show. If you’re curious and enjoy pretty rough true crime, it was the story of the death of Mark Kilroy, a Texas college student who was actually sacrificed in a supposed dark magic ritual by a drug-dealing voodoo/Satan combo cult in a Mexican border town. So yeah, I didn’t want to make Aaron cry so instead, I’m presenting a possessed toy tale, followed by its actual background.

First, let’s start with the legend. And I stress, the legend (mainly for Steve’s benefit, so he will calm down). I bet a lot of you have heard at least bits of this, but bear with me. I’m hoping to have some fun new tidbits for you:

Dr. Thomas and Minnie Otto were quite a jet setting couple, especially for a time before jets. In the late 1800s, the couple were attractive, affluent, educated and world traveled. In time they bought a large and luxurious mansion in Key West, FL which they proceeded to fill with expensive artwork, antiques, servants and, finally, children.

Things were going pretty darn well for a couple of rich of white people in the late 19th century, at least until the end of that century. It was in the year 1900 that they had their fourth and final child, Robert Eugene. Not that he was a bad kid per se, just a little frail and, well, weird. But like most wealthy people unused to dealing with inconveniences, instead of being overly concerned they assigned Robert Eugene (who went by Gene) his own personal servant-nanny, a Jamaican woman who would be a constant presence throughout Gene’s childhood.

Word is the maid, who unsurprisingly history hasn’t retained a name for, doted on the young boy. So much so she made for him a hand-stitched, child-sized doll, complete with some Bahamian magic, for luck of course, which she presented to the boy when he was about 8.

Now, despite looking to me like it was crafted of the very darkest of childhood nightmares, Gene went gonzo over the doll. (Not saying it was because he was a weird house child with no friends, but the doll WAS about his height so…) Gene immediately named the golem, I mean, doll Robert (after himself, you’ll recall) and dressed him in his favorite sailor outfit.

Gene then proceeded to take Robert with him EVERYWHERE. Which, for a young and lonely child isn’t really that strange, at least at first. Robert had a place setting at the dining table, where Gene would sneak him food, Robert had a special towel to sit on when Gene had bathtime and at bedtime, the servants and/or parents were supposed to tuck Robert and Gene in with equal TLC. (Side note: it’s at this point that the anonymous Jamaican nanny disappears from the story, her part as the token minority player having been completed, I suppose.)

As time passes, however, life with Robert begins to get a bit stranger. Gene’s mother Minnie begins to hear voices coming from his room when he is supposed to be alone. One voice is obviously the little boy’s, but he is answered by a ‘rougher, scratchier’ voice that causes her several times to open the door without knocking, only to find of course just a boy and his giant, creepy doll.

More time passes and Minnie is just about over the doll-based shenanigans. Gene is waking the household up with blood-curdling screams and a bedroom full of upturned furniture. He can only stammer, “Robert did it” when pressed by adults. When she now surprise investigates the voices in her son’s room she finds Gene cowering in a corner with Robert sitting over him on the bed or a chair. “He’s glaring at the boy. I can see it.” Minnie would say, surely mixing another martini and wondering why they couldn’t have just stopped with three kids.

Servants would find themselves locked out of the house, random items would be broken, toys were found ‘mutilated’ and mysterious giggling would be heard from empty rooms. Each time he was asked, Gene would repeat “Robert did it!” and though his parents were not exactly gullible people, even they began to get unnerved when neighbors and passersby reported seeing the ghastly doll staring out of windows and moving about upstairs.

Finally, the parents (and I’m guessing mainly Minnie) said enough and Robert was banished to a box in the attic. I’m sure she was tired of hiring servants who would quit within days because of a tiny creeping shadow in a sailor’s outfit flitting about the mansion and giggling. He didn’t go to the attic quietly, however, as footsteps and giggles were heard frequently coming from upstairs.

Time continues to pass as it does and Gene eventually becomes an adult and begins making a career as an artist and travels abroad. As career artists are expected to be eccentric he gets himself an English girlfriend, Anne, who eventually becomes his wife. In short order, he moves the couple back to his childhood in Key West, as his father has passed away and his elderly mother now lives alone (servants apparently not as en vogue in the 30s… or the Depression). The happy reunion is not complete, however, as pretty quickly Gene makes his way to the attic to retrieve his childhood simulacrum, Robert.

Now, what newly married woman, taken to live with her mother in law in a completely new country, wouldn’t be even more thrilled to discover her husband also wanted to introduce her to his 3 and a half ft tall chalk-white effigy dressed in his childhood clothes? Honeymoon bliss, indeed.

Anne tried to be patient for a while, but obviously Robert was not happy to be reunited with his human only to have some broad come between them. The previous types of mischief began in the house, but this time seemed far more malevolent. Minnie, in fact, took the time to warn her daughter in law about the doll, and to beg her to get her son away from the house and Robert.

In surely only a tragic coincidence, Minnie was soon found dead in her bed, a look of terror frozen on her face. As she was an older woman and in poor health, a stroke was ruled as her cause of death and what weird demon doll?

Suffice to say, Anne was not enjoying her time in Key West. She had already put her foot down when Gene attempted to allow Robert a place in their bed, but after Minnie’s death, she had had enough. The doll was again banished to the attic at Anne’s insistence.

Unfortunately, Robert would not go gently into that good night and a campaign of terror was unleashed on poor Anne. Gene, I suppose, was busy being an eccentric artist and unaware of the horror movie unfolding around him and the misery and deterioration of his wife. In only a few short months following her mother in law’s death, the poor woman was declared insane and move to an asylum.

For Robert, this was the winning move. Per hauntedrooms.co.uk: “Robert the haunted doll once more placed demands on Eugene, requesting the Turret Room of the house because “he wanted a room with a view of the street.” Gene never remarried and lived alone in the Key West mansion until his death in 1974. Word is, he was found deceased in his bed, Robert the Doll tucked in snugly next to him.

The mansion remained uninhabited for years (except of course for Robert) following Gene’s death. Eventually, the home was sold and after some terrorizing of the new homeowners, Robert was gifted enthusiastically to the Fort East Martello Museum of Key West where he resides today.

Sources say Robert has settled in well to his new…haunt. It is reported that on occasion you can walk by the museum when it is closed and see a small pale figure staring out from the top floor windows. Employees report the occasional ghostly giggle and odd occurrences, but by far the most common report of paranormal activity comes from visitors to the museum.

Much like Buckbeak the Hippogriff, Robert expects to be treated with courtesy upon meeting and doesn’t suffer disrespect. Per atlasobscura.com: “Robert’s current favorite mischievous act involves casting curses on those who take his photo without first asking permission. To date, the walls near his glass case are covered in numerous letters from previous visitors and naysayers, begging for Robert’s forgiveness and asking him to remove any hex he has cast.

And that is the commonly told story of Robert the Doll. While quite a bit of it is true, some are mostly true, as with any good ghost story there is quite a bit spooky flavor added that is less than factual. So what’s the real story?

For the most part, the players are all real, with the possible exception of the unnamed Jamaican maid. While it’s very possible the Orrs employed a woman fitting her description, she did NOT present young Gene with a giant voodoo doll. In truth, the freakish doll was a present from his grandfather, who had spotted what was apparently the most horrifying window display of all time. Yep, Robert is store-bought (still one of a kind, handmade, but still, no black magic). While Grandfather Orr was traveling through Germany he walked by the famous Steiff Toy Company (It’s most known for creating the first Teddy Bear in 1902, or at least a plush, stuffed bear with moveable arms and legs. In 1906 an American trader spotted the bear, bought 3,000 on the spot and took them to the US, when they were named for then-President Roosevelt when he refused to shoot a captured baby bear. Because he wasn’t a Trump.)In the window he noticed a display of toys dressed as a royal court and decided he despised his youngest grandson, so bought him the court jester who, with a quick change of clothes, became the more nautical themed Robert the Doll.

Honestly, picturing Robert as some version of a demented harlequin is even more terrifying, so points to the Orrs for the upgrade.

As far as the reports of the toy terrorizing the boy and his family, it sounds more like Gene was a spoiled weird kid who needed to go outside and play. There is no indication that later his wife Anne was institutionalized. She DID leave him, but probably because he was a grown-ass man who designated an entire room in his home to a freakish doll.

Finally, as far as his current status as ‘the world’s most haunted toy, well, people like ghostly shit and Robert is quite the creepy celebrity. From Key West’s Historical Society:

Robert has been encased in glass with high-tech alarms since 1994 at Fort East Martello Museum where visitors must seek his permission to take his photograph, lest they be bombarded with bad luck. Fan mail continues to arrive daily from as far away as Australia, the U.K. and Japan, underscoring Robert’s global appeal to people and cultures of all ages. He has taken trips to a TAPS (The Atlantic Paranormal Society) convention in St. Petersburg, to Las Vegas to be on the Travel Channel’s television program “Zak Bagans: Mystery Mansion,” and last year to the Discovery Center for a Halloween appearance.”

To finish, it’s pretty unlikely that Robert the Doll is haunted, seeing as how that is impossible, BUT! it’s still pretty fun to tell ghost stories, visit supposedly haunted places and find ways to scare ourselves, within reason. Because of that, it’s doubtful his popularity will wane anytime soon, and if I’m being completely honest, if I awoke one lonely night to Robert hanging out in my bedroom, it’s possible that might literally scare me to death.

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Donated By: Steve E

Happy Ending

https://us.cnn.com/2019/10/16/us/las-vegas-parking-ticket-food-donation-trnd/index.html

Pay your traffic tickets with food!

If you get a parking ticket in Las Vegas over the next month, you will be able to pay off the fine with a food donation, the city council announced on Wednesday.

The program only applies to park citations issued between October 16 and November 16. The city council unanimously voted in favor of the initiative to allow food donations to be accepted instead of the cash fine. The press release for the city says they are taking in the donations to help those in need during the holiday season.

This initiative only applies to non-public safety parking infractions and the non-perishable food items must be of equal or greater value to the ticket fine, according to the city. The donations must be completed within thirty days of the citation date, and the last date the city is accepting donations is December 16.

All the food donations will be donated to the Helping Hands of Vegas Valley, a nonprofit that provides assistance to low income and disabled senior citizens, the press release reads.

This isn’t the first time Las Vegas has announced a special program to waive cash fines for parking tickets. In July, the city accepted donations of school supplies in lieu of parking ticket fines. Las Vegas City Council has been running occasional programs to accept charitable donations in place of parking fines since 2016.

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In This Week’s Show, episode 260, we huddle around our haunted mics to wish you a happy free-candy-day! If you’re a patreon anyway… if not… happy cheap candy day!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Marzanna (the Slavic goddess of death and rebirth) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that every machine is a smoke machine if you operate it wrong enough.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know a construction site near Florida State University uncovered the remains of a toddler dating from about 7,000 years ago? She was buried in a woven grass blanket and had several small toys and dolls included in her shroud.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Official IPA from Bell’s Brewing
Donated By: Steve E


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/287/391218/
* BA : 87 out of 100
* Style: New England IPA
* ABV: 6.4%
* Aaron: 9
* Jenn: 9
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 8


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* Voicemail from Andi
* Voicemail from Mr. Biblepants


Congratulations to the fabulous Oxfords on the birth of another grandbaby.

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Is it a real-fake or a fake-fake?


* http://inyminy.com/13-terrifying-cursed-objects-actually-exist/
* https://list25.com/25-creepy-cursed-objects-that-actually-exist/5/
* https://mentalfloss.com/authors/64309/Mental-Floss-UK
* https://warehouse13.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Artifacts_and_Gadgets


Panel, this is a simple guess-per-host quiz. I’ll read 4 items and what they do, and you have to decide if this is a “real” haunted or cursed object that’s actually in the world or a bit of nonsense made up by the internet.

Question One


* Myrtles Plantation Mirror: Apparently the mirror contains the spirit of a dead plantation girl who can you sometimes see hiding behind your own reflection!
* The After-Image Mirror: a cursed mirror said to show you visions of recently transpired tragedies when used by candlelight.
* The Myka Glasses: A pair of mirrored glasses cursed to reflect a vision of a person’s true nature back at them! Great for interrogations or Dorian Grey!
* Sargon (not that one) The Great’s Mirror: A reflective metal “mirror” said to be from Sumerian origin that will blind anyone who looks at it when reflecting the light of the solstice sun!


That’s right, it’s #1!

The Myrtles Plantation mirror comes from one of the “most haunted places in the world.” The mirror was added to the home in 1980 because apparently it wasn’t haunted enough already. The mirror is said to contain the spirits of Sara Woodruff and her children who were poised by a slave named Chloe. As the legend goes when someone dies in your house you should cover all the mirrors so the stupid spirits of stupidity don’t get stuck in them. Unfortunately, for Clark, they covered all but this one and now she and her daughters are forever stuck in a mirror like Timelord mayflies.

Question Two


* Bed and Breakfast Portrait: A portrait of the interior of a sitting room. Owners of the painting report that pillows on the couches, books on the shelves, or other smaller details in the painting will change to match the room in which the painting is housed.
* Henry Fuseli’s The Nightmare: Oil on canvas, 1781, by Anglo-Swiss artist Henry Fuseli, the painting is long rumored to give its owners horrific nightmares, driving them to madness,]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 259 - The One Where We Learn About Tanzania's League of Steves! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-259/ Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:00:49 +0000 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/?p=48881 In This Week’s Show, episode 259, the feds arrest bat boy for trafficking pumpkins to Gourds Do Porn. In This Week’s Show, episode 259, the feds arrest bat boy for trafficking pumpkins to Gourds Do Porn.

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Koji hasn’t struck us down yet, it does make great food!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that the human anus can stretch up to seven inches before tearing, also a raccoon can squeeze into holes as small as four inches. Meaning that you can take almost two raccoons up your ass. Just believe in yourself!

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

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But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Elysian Dragonstooth Stout from Elysian Brewing Co.

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Good news, Canadians managed to pull their heads out of their collective asses and avoid an Orange Is The New Brexit moment by narrowly reallecting a leader capable of complete sentences… in two languages even!

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Bloodermelon!

The most metal of fruits is a tie between the bloodermelon and the blumpkin… wait I think that’s something else. The bloodkin! For those outside of the know these names refer to watermelons and pumpkins that have turned. Not in a rotten sort of way either, but in the undead now vampire ways!

The origins of vampiric pumpkins and watermelons date back to legends and myths passed down among the Gypsies of southeastern Europe and were documented by Tatomir Vukanovic in the 1930s about his travels in Serbia. He wrote several years later in the Journal of the Gypsy Lore Society:

“The belief in vampires of plant origin occurs among Gs. [Gypsies] who belong to the Mosl. faith in KM [Kosovo-Metohija]. According to them there are only two plants which are regarded as likely to turn into vampires: pumpkins of every kind and water-melons. And the change takes place when they are ‘fighting one another.'”

Yes you heard right, fighting each other… one can only ponder on what that would look like. There are also more theories from Vukanovic.

“In Podrima and Prizrenski Podgor they consider this transformation occurs if these vegetables have been kept for more than ten days: then the gathered pumpkins stir all by themselves and make a sound like ‘brrrl, brrrl, brrrl!’ and begin to shake themselves. It is also believed that sometimes a trace of blood can be seen on the pumpkin, and the Gs. then say it has become a vampire. These pumpkins and melons go round the houses, stables, and rooms at night, all by themselves, and do harm to people. But it is thought that they cannot do great damage to folk, so people are not very afraid of this kind of vampire.

Among the Mosl. Gs. in the village of Pirani it is believed that if pumpkins are kept after Christmas they turn into vampires, while the Lešani Gs. think that this phenomenon occurs if a pumpkin used as a syphon, when ripe and dry, stays unopened for three years.”

Vukanovic doesn’t go into may details on how the veg attack but I’m thinking pumpkin head but with watermelons too. If you do find yourself surrounded by carnivorous melons and gourds don’t fret, Vukanovic goes into great detail on how to exercise your problems.

” The Gs. in KM. destroy pumpkins and melons which have become vampires … by plunging them into a pot of boiling water, which is then poured away, the vegetables being afterwards scrubbed by a broom and then thrown away, and the broom burned.”

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The terrifying tale of the Popobawa…

Or Popo Bawa.

Or Mr. Popo if it’s your first time at the Lookout.

(Dragon Ball humor)

Anyway, to carry on Jenn’s Jenntober tradition as best I can, I present to you the scariest cryptid Zanzibar has to offer, the Popobawa.

So, first off, the name I’m probably not at all saying correctly comes from a few Swahili words and translates literally as “bat-wing” from popo, meaning bat, and bawa, meaning wing. So congrats, now you know the Swahili pronunciation of Batman’s jet. You’re welcome.

The name comes from the dark, bat-like shadow the beast is said to cast. Because it is the night.

You can pluralize it as “Mapopobawa” in Swahili or in English, simply, “Popobawas.”

Not to be confused with Moon-Bat-People [insert Moon joke] it’s a one-eyed Earth Bat shetani – or evil spirit. You can check the show notes for his gross, over-eagar, rapey, bat-face in the show notes.

Not that it will do you any good of course because the Popbawa is also a shapeshifter!

It is, apparently, not able to change its mass. So the Popobawa usually appears to be a very unhealthy, grey-colored, hunched over, humanoid. But when night falls out come the long pointed ears, fanges, and single, giant, Futurama-esque, cyclopes eye.

Also its penis. Not pictured.
You’re welcome internet.

The Popowaba strikes fear into the hearts of many Zanzibarians as it comes with no rhyme or reason — except to prove its existence of course — it is especially violent, and has no backstory to speak of. Basically, he’s just a demonic asshole with a Napoleon complex and superpowers. Which sucks.

For example, he’s not just a shapeshifter, his large eye can paralyze anyone who gazes at him. Like the diet coke version of Medusa. He can also possess humans and use them as mouthpieces to spread rumors and generally be a dick… often with his dick. See, the eye-laser is so he can paralyse and rape you. And your family. Because he’s also a fucking anal-rapist. Like, specifically anal.

See, the Popobawa was created in 1965. Back then, it was mostly just being an evil spirit — the “shetani” part. Until, in 1972, there was an uptick in reports of rape in Tanzania which led to mass hysteria. Like proper hysteria too. Entire families fled their homes and would sleep in large circles around a bonfire, backs to the flame, sleeping in guard-style shifts, eyes keenly peeled for any bat… signal. Bat signal.

Anyway, the hysteria eventually passed, but resurfaced again in 1995, 2000, and as recently as 2007.

The problem is, it seems, that the Popowaba hates its existence being denied. To the point that it usually wraps up its back alley business by telling people that unless they share the story of its visit, the Popobawa will return and give them… what for… again! So while the locals would never seek to encur its wrath, forign press reported the rape-waves has having non-bat-people related sources. Which, you know, enraged cyclops-batboy and caused the… rapes… that were being reported… “time” AmIRight?

Increased sightings… and… umm… feelings, of the Popowaba also correlate to Political cycles in Tanzania. Because the Popobawa especially likes sodomizing controversial politicians.

I swear I’m not making this up.

Someone clearly did. But not me.

One reason frequently given for the beasts political zeel is that it’s the ghost of assassinated President Abeid Karume. That or it was summoned by the Chama Cha Mpinduzi political party. I mean, either or right?

After the 1995 demon anal tour, the Popowaba finally got international attention. Some of which came from the Center for Inquery’s Joe Nickell. Be published a short article title “The Skeptic-raping Demon of Zanzibar.” In which he laid out the case for this being a series of cases of sleep paralysis, or waking dream states. In either state a person has a vivid, and often terrifying, dream while suffering from immobility or a lack of physical control. In either case hallucinations are common. Many cases of witches, incubi, succubi, Hags, or alien abduction are explained the same way. Some, like Katrina Daly Thompson, were critical of Nickell, claiming that he was, per her book “Pobobawa: Tanzanian Talk, Global Misreadings” put it “associating Zanzibaris with fear and Westerners with skepticism.” Nickell agreed that “Westerners should be wary of imposing simplistic patterns on another culture, but they also should not shy away from making scientific observations where appropriate.”

I read the article, I didn’t find it to be particularly biased. It was dismissive of the Popowaba, but that’s hardly new for Skeptical Inquirer. And given their treatment of other geographically diverse cryptids, I’m less inclined to think it’s specifically some kind of western-agrandising scheme.

In the end, crazy Tanzanian folk-lore is crazy — but that’s hardly unique to Tanzanians eh?

  • https://skepticalinquirer.org/newsletter/skeptic-raping_demon_of_zanzibar/
  • https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/zanzibars_popobawa_demon_still_attacking_skeptics/
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popobawa

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Official IPA from Bell’s Brewing
Donated By: Steve E

Faith in Humanity Restored

New (old) home on the Range

  • https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/badlands-national-park-expands-bison-grazing-area/article_f0bc9513-80ab-5fa1-ad50-921ea4b82ae2.html
  • https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/14/us/bison-south-dakota-national-park-trnd/index.html
  • Bison being returned to a part of Badlands after nearly 150 years
  • Badlands National Park is expanding its bison range by 22,000 acres
  • Badlands National Park partnered with:
    • National Park Foundation
    • World Wildlife Fund
    • Defenders of Wildlife
    • Nature Conservancy
    • Badlands National Park Conservancy
    • Badlands Natural History Association
  • donors raised $740,000
  • 43 miles of new fence has been installed, along with cattle guards
  • bison grazing area in the park to 80,193 acres
  • “Visitors will also have more opportunities for viewing, photographing, and learning about bison in their native habitat on the badlands’ iconic and stunning landscape,”

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In This Week’s Show, episode 259, the feds arrest bat boy for trafficking pumpkins to Gourds Do Porn.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Koji hasn’t struck us down yet, it does make great food!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that the human anus can stretch up to seven inches before tearing, also a raccoon can squeeze into holes as small as four inches. Meaning that you can take almost two raccoons up your ass. Just believe in yourself!

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Enter Stuff Here

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Elysian Dragonstooth Stout from Elysian Brewing Co.

Donated By: Jaded Zappa


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/700/2023/
* BA : 90 out of 100
* Style: English Oatmeal Stout
* ABV: 8.1%
* Aaron: 4
* Shea: 3
* Steve: 4


This Week’s Show

Round Table

Good news, Canadians managed to pull their heads out of their collective asses and avoid an Orange Is The New Brexit moment by narrowly reallecting a leader capable of complete sentences… in two languages even!

Beer delivery from listener Travis

Join us on Patreon for Shea’s great story about sucking off a pumpkin… or something like that. You can get it, and extended versions of every show for as little as a buck a show. Plus, you’ll get episodes of our second show 4 More Beers, recorded live, for free! http://patreon.com/w4w

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Bloodermelon!

The most metal of fruits is a tie between the bloodermelon and the blumpkin… wait I think that's something else. The bloodkin! For those outside of the know these names refer to watermelons and pumpkins that have turned. Not in a rotten sort of way either, but in the undead now vampire ways!

The origins of vampiric pumpkins and watermelons date back to legends and myths passed down among the Gypsies of southeastern Europe and were documented by Tatomir Vukanovic in the 1930s about his travels in Serbia. He wrote several years later in the Journal of the Gypsy Lore Society:

"The belief in vampires of plant origin occurs among Gs. [Gypsies] who belong to the Mosl. faith in KM [Kosovo-Metohija]. According to them there are only two plants which are regarded as likely to turn into vampires: pumpkins of every kind and water-melons. And the change takes place when they are 'fighting one another.'"

Yes you heard right, fighting each other… one can only ponder on what that would look like. There are also more theories from Vukanovic.

"In Podrima and Prizrenski Podgor they consider this transformation occurs if these vegetables have been kept for more than ten days: then the gathered pumpkins stir all by themselves and make a sound like 'brrrl, brrrl, brrrl!' and begin to shake themselves. It is also believed that sometimes a trace of blood can be seen on the pumpkin, and the Gs. then say it has become a vampire. These pumpkins and melons go round the houses, stables, and rooms at night, all by themselves, and do harm to people. But it is thought that they cannot do great damage to folk, so people are not very afraid of this kind of vampire.

Among the Mosl. Gs. in the village of Pirani it is believed that if pumpkins are kept after Christmas they turn into vampires, while the Lešani Gs. think that this phenomenon occurs if a pumpkin used as a syphon, when ripe and dry, stays unopened for three years."

Vukanovic doesn't go into may details on how the veg attack but I'm thinking pumpkin head but with watermelons too. If you do find yourself surrounded by carnivorous melons and gourds don't fret,]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 258 - The One Where We Discover The Pie Is A Lie! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-258/ Fri, 18 Oct 2019 13:00:11 +0000 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/?p=48672 In This Week’s Show, episode 258, we learn about the blood countesses and where she put that flute that one time at summer plague… In This Week’s Show, episode 258, we learn about the blood countesses and where she put that flute that one time at summer plague…

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Beef hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying Steve’s patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that explaining to a child that we’re mortal and that death is inescapable is probably, for me, the hardest part about being a party clown.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that terrible human masquerading as a person worth respecting, Mother Teresa also had an exorcism performed on her? It was at the request of Archbishop of Calcutta, Henry D’Souza, who had noticed that Mother Teresa was increasingly agitated in her sleep.

I’m hoping it was night terrors caused by guilt of withholding care from those in need.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Cannoneer – Pegasus City Brewery

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Round Table

Thanks for having lunch with us Marie! And for the beers of course ;)

We just released another 4 More Beers! It’s episode 32, the chronicle of the Emu Wars. It was a properly funny show with a lot of quality digression… as opposed to the usual digression. So if you want to get this week’s extra story from Shea, over an hour of 4 More Beers, and all that good extra backlog content send us a buck at Patreon.com/w4w
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The Blood Countess – available now at http://patreon.com/w4w

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_B%C3%A1thory
  • https://historycollection.co/real-countess-dracula-12-facts-life-crimes-elizabeth-bathory/4/

Elizabeth Bathory been described as the most vicious female serial killer in all recorded history. Where fact ends and fiction begins in her horrible story is now impossible to determine, but in her fame as a legendary vampire she is out rivalled only by Count Dracula.

Bathory was born in Transylvania in 1560 to a distinguished family that included kings, cardinals, knights, and judges. Though she counted many luminaries among her relatives, her family tree also featured some seriously disturbed kin. One of her uncles instructed her in Satanism, while her aunt taught her all about sadomasochism. At the age of 15, Bathory was married to Count Ferenc Nádasdy, and the couple settled into Csejthe Castle in modern day Slovakia. In 1578, Nádasdy became chief commander of the Hungarian army and embarked on a military campaign against the Ottoman Empire, leaving his wife in charge of his vast estates and the governing of the local populace.

What was a wealthy socialite of the time to do? Rumors that Bathory tortured her servants began to spread. Bathory’s torture included jamming pins and needles under the fingernails of her servant girls, and tying them down, smearing them with honey, and leaving them to be attacked by bees and ants. Although the count participated in his wife’s cruelties, he may have also restrained her impulses; when he died in the early 1600s, she became much worse. It is also believed that to please his wife, her husband built a torture chamber to her specifications.

With the help of her former nurse, Ilona Joo, and local witch Dorotta Szentes, Bathory began abducting peasant girls to torture and kill. According to the reports and the stories told, Bathory burned her victims with hot irons; beat them to death with clubs; stuck needles under their fingernails; poured ice water over their bodies and left them to freeze to death outside; sewed their lips together, and bit chunks of flesh off their breasts and faces.

In addition, witnesses said Bathory liked using scissors to torture her victims. She used the instrument to cut off their hands, noses, and genitals. One of her favorite pastimes, witnesses said, was using scissors to slice open the skin between her victims’ fingers.

In 1609 or 1610 (sources are not conclusive), when Lady Bathory opened a Gynaeceum or finishing school for noblewomen. Suddenly, young, noble girls were dying in alarming numbers. So their families took the matter to Matthias II, King of Hungary. Count Gyorgy Thurzo makes an investigative visit to Csejthe Castle in Hungary on orders from King Matthias and discovers Countess Elizabeth Bathory directing a torture session of young girls, but her title and high-ranking relatives had, until this point, made her untouchable.

At the time of Thurzó’s investigation, some accused her of cannibalism, while others claimed to have seen her have sex with the devil himself. The most infamous accusation — the one that inspired her infamous nickname, the Blood Countess, as well as the rumors that she was a vampire — alleged that Elizabeth Bathory bathed in the blood of her young victims in an attempt to maintain a youthful appearance.

After hearing the accusations, Thurzó ultimately charged Bathory with the deaths of 80 girls. That said, one witness claimed to have seen a book kept by Bathory herself, where she recorded the names of all of her victims — 650 in total. This diary, however, appears to only be a legend; it has never been found.

When the trial ended, Bathory’s accomplices, one of whom worked as a wet nurse for the countess’ children, were convicted of witchcraft and burned at the stake. Bathory herself was bricked up in her room at Csejte, where she remained under house arrest for four years until her death in 1614.

Show Story – A VERY grim Grimm’s Fairy Tale’s Backstory

  • http://curioushistorian.com/the-real-story-of-the-pied-piper
  • https://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/pied-piper.htm

For the 3rd October installment we’re traveling back to Medieval Europe for some fun with plague, starvation and possible mass murder and the ‘at least somewhat’ true story behind an already creepy fable: The Story of the Pied Piper of Hamelin.

In case you may have forgotten or had a Brothers Grimm-free childhood, here’s the basic story.

In 13th century Ye Olde grungy Germany, in the prosperous town of Hamelin, a terribly icky infestation made itself manifest. The town suddenly found itself overrun with “seas of black rats”. In addition to ruining food and grain supplies and being generally gross, black rats were also known to carry all kinds of fun diseases. So needless to say, the previously well-to-do townsfolk were not enjoying this new development and when an oddly dressed musician showed up saying he could rid the village of each and every rat, they were on board.

Thus is introduced the Pied Piper. He and the town’s Mayor make a deal that for 50,000 florins he would take care of the rodent problem. And he did! Playing his pipe he apparently zombie-led the rats out of town and into a river, where they all drowned.

Returning to Hamelin to collect his reward, the shitty Mayor and townsfolk basically had a ‘new phone, who dis?’ response. After a bit of back and to, the Mayor tossed down 50 florins and told him he should be happy with that.

Well, the pied piper was NOT happy with that and the following day he did he musical rat trick again, but instead he whammied the town’s children. He marched them to a cave at the base of the mountain and once the children were inside a landslide sealed the cave for ever and ever.

So, I’m sure we can see a couple of possibly suspect details, but looking back into history there are actually events that led to or at least inspired the fable. For example, it’s widely accepted that in June of 1284 the town lost most of its children. There are a few primary sources, but the coolest and creepiest was a stained glass window made in or about 1300 to commemorate the event. It has apparently been destroyed at some point over the years, but it was referenced and recorded in multiple contemporary sources. There was an inscription on the window as well, reading: “On the day of John and Paul 130 children in Hamelin went to Calvary and were brought through all kinds of danger to the Koppen mountain and lost”. Yikes.

In one of the oldest written recordings of the event, the Luneberg manuscript from about 1440, the story gets a little more detail, “In the year of 1284, on the day of Saints John and Paul on June 26, by a piper, clothed in many kinds of colors, 130 children born in Hamelin were seduced and lost at the place of execution near the Koppen.”

From curioushistorian.com

According to the story, the children were last seen on one particular street in Hamelin. That street is now known as Bungelosenstrasse or the ‘street without drums.’ To this day, no one is allowed to dance or play music on this street.”

So what do historians think happen? Of course there’s always the tried and true plague, but that would be odd that only children were affected. There was also one of those fun for all ages events happening a few decades before: a Crusade. And it wasn’t unheard of for there to be an accompanying ‘children’s crusade’ where a young person would claim to have a vision from god and others would follow along, gaining more and more as they traveled (see Joan of Arc, sorta).

Some historians believe the piper was actually a ‘locator’, or a person who tried to drum up interest in towns that are struggling to send some of their citizens to other areas for colonization. There were tales that the children were whisked, alive, through the cave into, of all places, Transylvania. Surprisingly, fairy tale scholar (best job EVER) Jack David Sipes says there is actual documentation that there were visitors in the town looking to recruit people to settle in Eastern Europe.

I do doubt that ‘children only’ was not a common recruitment practice.

Adding to the creepy implications is the author William Manchester in his book ‘A World Lit Only By Fire’. Now, despite a badass name, the book is historically shaky at best. He posits that the piper was actually a wildly prolific pedophile and mass murderer, who traveled to the towns in the patchwork guise of a ‘colony recruiter’ but instead lured the children into the woods for terrible things. In the book he discusses villages that found bodies and pieces of the missing children, but speaking of missing, Manchester doesn’t cite any sources.

Part of the passage in his book:

“The Pied Piper of Hamelin . . . was a real man, but there was nothing enchanting about him. Quite the opposite; he was horrible, a psychopath and pederast who, on June 24, 1484, spirited away 130 children in the Saxon village of Hammel and used them in unspeakable ways. Accounts of the aftermath vary. According to some, the victims were never seen again; others told of disembodied little bodies found scattered in the forest underbrush or festooning the branches of trees.”

I enjoyed the very first Amazon review from Lunarian (MOON REVIEWER!) so much I had to share it: Don’t Bother: “What sensationalist, poorly researched nonsense– Anne Boleyn was not guilty of incest, Robin Hood was not a real man (he is more a composite of real people), it’s doubtful Lucrezia Borgia had a kid with her own father, and I’m pretty sure the medieval peasants must have had SOME conception of time given their raising crops and observing holy days. The self-righteous, salacious tone got old fast. I somehow managed to complete it but I would not waste your money. I wish I could get those ten dollars back.”

(Manchester is an actual historian, this wasn’t self published. I think he was just getting on in years and got tired of boring things like facts. He wrote a pretty renowned biography on Churchill called ‘The Last Lion’ and I think it broke him.)

Despite a clear historical, Hamelin is all in on this whole ‘there was a pied piper’ thing. The town still employs a town piper. It’s kinda weird, but whatever.

Next Week’s Beer

Elysian Dragonstooth Stout from Elysian Brewing Co.

Donated By: Jaded Zappa

Faith In Humanity Restored

Legos!

Earlier this month LEGO Group announced a new project to help folks donate old, unused LEGOs to kinds in need.

LEGO Replay is a pilot program that will accept any and all used LEGO bricks and donate them to children’s non-profits in the US.

To donate your wayward blocks visit the LEGO Replay website, link in the show notes (https://www.lego.com/replay) where you can print out a free shipping label, and depending on your area schedule UPS or FedEx to come by and pick the package up.

Packages go to the Give Back Box facility where the bricks are hand sorted, inspected, and cleaned.

The effort is a collaboration with Give Back Box, Teach For America, and Boys and Girls Clubs of Boston.

Most people don’t throw away their LEGO bricks, according to Tim Brooks, the Environmental Responsibility Vice President at the LEGO Group.

“The vast majority hand them down to their children or grandchildren. But others have asked us for a safe way to dispose of or to donate their bricks. With Replay, they have an easy option that’s both sustainable and socially impactful.”

Which, what the fuck!? Send them to me if you’re just gonna throw them out!… I mean… umm… the wee children.

“I am excited to join the LEGO Group in this pilot program,” said Monika Wiela, founder of Give Back Box. “Growing up in Poland, I didn’t have many toys as a child, so this collaboration is rather personal for me. What’s better than giving a child the gift of play?”

LEGO Replay is one of the many sustainable and philanthropic efforts the LEGO Group has announced in the past year. Recent efforts include Plants from Plants, LEGO Braille Bricks and LEGO Audio and Braille Instructions.

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In This Week’s Show, episode 258, we learn about the blood countesses and where she put that flute that one time at summer plague…
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Beef hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying Steve’s patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that explaining to a child that we’re mortal and that death is inescapable is probably, for me, the hardest part about being a party clown.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that terrible human masquerading as a person worth respecting, Mother Teresa also had an exorcism performed on her? It was at the request of Archbishop of Calcutta, Henry D’Souza, who had noticed that Mother Teresa was increasingly agitated in her sleep.

I’m hoping it was night terrors caused by guilt of withholding care from those in need.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Cannoneer - Pegasus City Brewery


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/51047/313204/
* Untappd: 3.67/5
* Style: Bold Amber
* ABV: 7.4%
* Aaron: 4
* Jenn: 4
* Mom: 0
* Shea: 3
* Steve: 4


This Week’s Show

Round Table

Thanks for having lunch with us Marie! And for the beers of course ;)

We just released another 4 More Beers! It’s episode 32, the chronicle of the Emu Wars. It was a properly funny show with a lot of quality digression… as opposed to the usual digression. So if you want to get this week’s extra story from Shea, over an hour of 4 More Beers, and all that good extra backlog content send us a buck at Patreon.com/w4w
Best of all, we don’t even charge you for the 4 More Beers!

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The Blood Countess - available now at http://patreon.com/w4w


* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_B%C3%A1thory
* https://historycollection.co/real-countess-dracula-12-facts-life-crimes-elizabeth-bathory/4/




Elizabeth Bathory been described as the most vicious female serial killer in all recorded history. Where fact ends and fiction begins in her horrible story is now impossible to determine, but in her fame as a legendary vampire she is out rivalled only by Count Dracula.

Bathory was born in Transylvania in 1560 to a distinguished family that included kings, cardinals, knights, and judges. Though she counted many luminaries among her relatives, her family tree also featured some seriously disturbed kin. One of her uncles instructed her in Satanism, while her aunt taught her all about sadomasochism. At the age of 15, Bathory was married to Count Ferenc Nádasdy, and the couple settled into Csejthe Castle in modern day Slovakia. In 1578, Nádasdy became chief commander of the Hungarian army and embarked on a military campaign against the Ottoman Empire, leaving his wife in charge of his vast estates and the governing of the local populace.

What was a wealthy socialite of the time to do? Rumors that Bathory tortured her servants began to spread. Bathory’s torture included jamming pins and needles under the fingernails of her servant girls, and tying them down, smearing them with honey, and leaving them to be attacked by bees and ants. Although the count participated in his wife’s cruelties, he may have also restrained her impulses; when he died in the early 1600s, she became much worse. It is also believed that to please his wife, her husband built a torture chamber to her specifications.

With the help of her former nurse, Ilona Joo, and local witch Dorotta Szentes, Bathory began abducting peasant girls to torture and kill.]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 257 - The One Where We Take Candy From The Man! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-257/ Fri, 11 Oct 2019 13:00:03 +0000 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/?p=48461 In This Week’s Show, episode 257, we dive into the spooky, scary, skeletons in Planet X’s murder closet! In This Week’s Show, episode 257, we dive into the spooky, scary, skeletons in Planet X’s murder closet!

Join us tonight at 6:30pm Mountain Standard time (Denver) for another rousing episode of 4 More Beers, our free-to-patrons second show! We’ll be recording live, having beers, and chatting with you on the YouTubes! If you want a link visit https://patreon.com/w4w where for as little as a buck a show you’ll get to hear me talk about Planet Hole 9 and get a link to the live show later tonight!

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Makemake hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that when you fall off your parents insurance, it’s basically the same as your manufacturer’s warranty expiring.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Aleistair Crowley (aka The Beast, aka The Wickedest Man Alive) had himself a castle in Scotland? On the shores of Loch Ness? That was later bought by Led Zeppelin founder and guitarist Jimmy Page to indulge in lots of drug-fueled occultism and attempts to harness magick.

That castle’s seen some shit is what I’m saying.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Budweiser Discovery Reserve from Shea

This Week’s Show

Round Table

Prezzies from Steve-E…

Reply to awesome listener Tara’s voicemail.

Hangover cures that work and don’t: episodes 193 & 194

Update from Jenn: I learned this week on Dan’s Cummings Time Suck Podcast that there is a remaining group of Lemurians still around. They’ve moved into hidden caverns within Mt. Shasta.

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The Dark Side of Planet 9!

We’re not strangers to the mysterious 9th planet. Some say it inhabits the outermost rim of the solar system, beyond the smallest-still-a-planet-if-you-ask-me Pluto where, somehow, it’s warm enough for lizard people to live.

Makemake orbit

Others suggest that it orbits the sun perpendicularly to the rest of the planets in the solar system. The idea being that its orbital plane is roughly 90 degrees off of the sun’s equatorial horizon. To give you an idea of just how far off axis that is, the most steeply tilted known objects are Eris, a dwarf planetoid at 44.0445 degrees, nearly twice that of “make make” whose orbital inclinations is about 29 degrees.

Fun fact, the discovery of Makemake is part of what contributed to downgrading Pluto from a planet to a sad ball of frozen rock no one gives a shit about.

Oh yeah, this is a science story… mostly.

Interestingly, Makemake has a radius of about 444.28 miles, is the second largest known object in the Kepler belt, has a 309 year… year, and one moon. Makemake, actually pronounced mah-kee-mah-kee, is also the god of fertility and creator of humans in the Rapa Nui mythology. Before its discovery was publicly announced the planetoid was given the codename “Easterbunny” as it was found shortly after Easter.

Looks at your phone now to see an orbital diagram of Makemake

So, why does all of this matter?

For starters, it’s interesting. But for our story, it’s a fun introduction to the discovery that Planet X is actually black hole X!

From Vice

Our Solar System Might Have a Black Hole From the Dawn of the Universe

From Express.co.uk

Black hole news: Planet Nine could be black hole left over from the Big Bang

The Express also went with

Planet 9 breakthrough: Is the mystery Planet Nine actually a black hole?

Wonder what Betteridge would have to say about that…

From Fox

Planet 9 may not be a planet at all, but rather a ‘primordial black hole,’ shocking study suggests

Sadly, Discover Magazine says

Planet Nine Might Be a Black Hole the Size of a Baseball

NBC News went with

Our solar system’s mysterious ‘Planet 9’ may actually be a tiny, ancient black hole

Continuing:

A new theory suggests that a so-called primordial black hole may lurk beyond Neptune in the outer solar system.

The Metro.co.uk went with

Mysterious ‘Planet X’ may actually be a primordial black hole, scientists suggest And then followed up by hijacking my fucking clipboard to add an advert for their shitty twitter feed. Fuck you clipboard hijacking javascript. Fuck you in the face.

The Sun thought the headline could use a few facts, so they went with

X FACTOR Mysterious Planet X may be black hole that’s ’10 times heavier than Earth but the size of a bowling ball’ on edge of our Solar System

And a bazillion other sites came up with similar headlines all of which were just as silly.

A few managed to be a little less shit…

Popular Mechanics said

If Planet 9 Is Actually a Black Hole, It Completely Changes How We Understand Our Universe

So, do we have a doomsday black hole circling the Sun waiting to collide with whichever poor planet it’s lopsided orbit intersects with?

No, of course not.

Most astronomers refer to Planet Nine as “Planet X” and assume it would have a mass between 5 and fifteen times that of Earth and lies between 45 and 150 billion kilometers from the Sun (roughly Neptune’s distance).

Recently a group of scientists suggested that Planet X may not be the mythical home of our space-nazi dopleganers, but instead be a basketball sized black hole. If it were a planet-mass blackhole, the researchers suggest it would be surrounded by a billion miles of gravitational debris and would release gamma ray flashes that would allow its detection.

Published on the preprint website arXiv, two scientists suggest the otherwise undetectable hole wouldn’t be a collapsed star but a primordial black hole sized “somewhere between a baseball and a bowling ball,” said Jakub Scholtz, a postdoctoral fellow at the Institute for Particle Physics Phenomenology at Durham University in the United Kingdom, and one of the authors of the new study.

Though they have not been directly observed a primordial black hole is one thought to have been developed shortly after the Big bang when density fluctuations across the early universe created small, super-dense pockets of matter.

“Sometimes they’re said to be relics of the Big Bang,”

said study co-author James Unwin, a theoretical particle physicist at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

Lizard aliens aside the idea of planet 9 comes up as we track “trans-Neptunian objects” or clusters of asteroids and comets in the Kuiper Belt whose highly elliptical paths suggest the gravitational influence of an object roughly 15 times as massive as Earth.

So how do we know it’s a primordial black hole? Short answer, we don’t.

Scholtz and Urin posed the question as a hypothetical. The idea being that we have some evidence of the odd behavior of things in the Kepler Belt, but no evidence of a planet. So what’s something that could effect the same force but not be detectable? A black hole of course. And that’s the length of it. They published a “what if” to get people thinking. “By saying it’s a planet and looking for it as if it’s a planet, you’re limiting the tools you use to actually search for this thing,” says Unwin.

So there ya go. What if it were a black hole?

Well, for one answer

“We have a lot of problematic nuclear waste, and that’s a good place to dump it,”

jokes Unwin. (Both Scholtz and Unwin admit that launching nuclear waste out of Earth’s atmosphere poses problems of its own.)

“Maybe not the best plan, but it’s a fun thought,”

says Scholtz.

The last of these quotes comes from PopMech, who actually did a pretty good job of ending with “it’s all a thought experiment.”

Show Story – The True Terror Behind Trick or Treating!

  • https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/murder/candyman-poisoned-halloween-candy-pixie-stix

It’s week two of October so it’s time for the next installment of our Halloween-creep-o-thon!

Since Shea has fled the country I’m putting off the story I had planned until his return. Since he’s so easily frightened, I decided to use this week to discuss trick or treating, the good, the bad and the ignorantly embellished.

I pick this also because it’s easier to discuss things that have actually happened in real life when it’s only Steve and Aaron. Shea likes the fanciful tales, Steve less so.

To start things off, what is one of the, if not THE, best thing about being a kid for Halloween? I’ll hear a few answers, but dressing up for trick or treating is the right one.

For those of us who were little kids in the late 70s, ALL the 80s and/or early 90s in the US, however, there was a new and insidious threat infecting the country, spreading chaos and fear… That’s right, the newly formed, politicized religious right. And one of their loudest drums to beat was that of the Satanic Panic, with bloody-thirsty, devil-worshipping cults and their ilk lurking inside every cereal box and afterschool program.

I may do an in depth story on this looney 80’s craze one of these days, but for today I’m mainly referencing how the ignorant zealots tried to leech every drop of fun out of Halloween, trick or treating included. Since minions of Satan were legion in suburbia, every piece of candy, every block of your neighborhood, every household pet, was soon to be infested with evil, poison and possibly sacrificed.

There was the repeated tales of razor blades in candy apples, pins and needles shoved into chocolates, angel dust on your Dip n Sticks… Everyone knew someone who knew someone who knew a kid who gushed a geyser of blood after a huge bite of Kit Kat con Gilette. Animal shelters were said to not adopt out black cats or dogs during the month of October because they would be sacrificed.

But back to treats, according to one of the Chick Tracts my dad brought me from the prison chaplan where he worked, there were special potions and spells put on candies handed out by cult members that would lower the children’s resistance to Satan’s influence. Of course some were just poisoned to kill them, but they had to recruit too.

I’m not kidding, I actually found a pic of those specific panels:

Now Jack Chick had an unbelievable hard-on for the Satanic Panic in all its forms. As far as Halloween was concerned, per Chick, it was created by Druids who worshipped the entity Samhaim and sacrificed children on Halloween if the kids’ families were too poor to give them bribes or something. Then they would put a jack-o-lantern with a candle made of human fat by the door so other murder-Druids would know they had been skinned already. Thus was born Satan’s holiday!

None of this is true of course: Samhaim was one of the 4 major holidays/festivals/changing of the seasons of early Celtic peoples (predating Christianity by… a lot) and not an entity. It was a harvest festival and celebration, not a prequel to The Purge.

Now it WAS in Ireland (home of many of these dirty pagans) where the idea of trick or treating seems to have first appeared, but it was in the past few centuries not back into antiquity. In a harvest-time custom, children and the poor would go from home to home to beg for food donations, or ‘treats’. Usually something like apples, small pies, things like that.

Nary a sacrificed victim to be found.

Of course, anytime Christianity bulldozes its way into a culture and appropriates the existing holidays and customs there is some loss of detail and nuance, but I’m fairly certain carved pumpkins didn’t originate with human-fat candles.

So back to treat or treating in the modern era. Were we 80s kids mutilated and scarred by the hundreds due to the resurgence of druidic devil worshippers and their weapons of very, very small scale destruction? Pretty much not really.

This isn’t to say that a kid never got a pretty bad trick played on him while candy hunting. Almost all were pranks being played by another kid or sabotaged for attention by the candy-owner himself. Since 1959 there have been around 80 accounts of sharp objects put into candy with supposed harmful intentions, but have almost all been chalked up to pranks or hoaxes. In fact, until the year 2000 there hadn’t been a single proven case of candy handed out at Halloween causing a child harm. It was in that year that 49 yr old Minneapolis asshole James Joseph Smith admitted to putting pins in all the candy bars he handed out. Dick move, Jim. But in this case, there were only a few cut mouths and lessons learned about knocking on the door of the weird middle-aged bachelor in the neighborhood.

(One quick aside, in 1970 a 5yr child died suddenly and the family turned over a bag of Halloween candy laced with heroin. Turns out, however, it was a cover up by the family after the little kid accidentally found his uncle’s drug stash.)

Now, I’m not sure if you noticed my wording in the previous story, but there has been one fatality of a child from Halloween candy. (So yes, warning now, the remainder of my story is a case that involves the death of a child, so if you’d rather not hear that sort of thing you can skip the show chapter to next week’s beer. No gratuitous or gruesome details will be covered, for those of you staying with me.) It was 1974 in Pasadena, TX and 8yr old Timothy O’Bryan was out trick or treating with his 5 yr old sister, father and a neighborhood man and his son. The kids had a successful haul and when Timothy and his sister returned home there was the time-honored tradition of ‘dump it all out on the floor and dig around in it to see what you got’. Their dad, 30yr old Ronald O’Bryan, said that each kid could have one piece of candy before bed and pointed out the enormous, 22in long pixie sticks each had in their piles.

These candies were not just unusual because of their size but because of how they had gotten them. While the little group was out they had approached a house where they received no answer, but Ronald had hung back after the others walked away. When he finally caught up he had a number of the giant pixie sticks. Per investigationdiscovery.com, according to Ronald “he had stumbled upon “some rich neighbors” who gave him the “expensive treats.”

The ID article goes on “O’Bryan distributed a giant straw to each of the three kids. He later gave one to Bates’ daughter, who had stayed behind, and another to a 10-year-old boy from the O’Bryans’ church they encountered while out trick-or-treating”.

Now back home, Ronald urges his kids to try the pixie stick as their one treat before bed. Fortunately, little Elizabeth was a headstrong girl and chose a different candy but Patrick did as his father suggested and took the pixie stick. He didn’t finish it, though, complaining it had a bad, bitter taste.

As I’m sure you have guessed, Ronald is a fucking monster and had passed out cyanide-laced candy to 5 children that Halloween night. Timothy O’Bryan died within just a few hours of ingesting the candy. It turns out he would not have been the only one, as the neighbor’s son had tried to eat his pixie stick that night, but was unable to pry off the staple that Ronald had used to reseal the plastic after putting in the poison. Luckily for the other children, the cyanide worked quickly enough on poor Timothy that police were able to confiscate the other packages before they were eaten.

Not only was Ronald a heartless monster, he was also a fucking idiot. It was discovered there were substantial life insurance policies out on his children, so he decides to poison them and 3 other kids to make it appear “random”. Or maybe a shadowy group of “rich neighbors” would be blamed? (It seems he was barely able to contain his eagerness for the kids to eat the poisoned candy, so subtleness was definitely not a strong suit. ) When interrogated about the home that gave out the pixie sticks (to him alone, you recall), he claimed he only saw an arm.

After several days he suddenly decided to blame another neighbor who turned out to have an air-tight alibi, as he was on shift that night as an air traffic controller (they don’t mess around with knowing which shifts are covered). By this point the detectives had had enough of his bullshit. Again from ID: “They (the detectives) began digging into the optician’s past and discovered he had been fired from an astounding 21 jobs over 10 years. He was also struggling with major financial issues, including $100,000 of debt. The possibility that money could be a motive for Timothy’s murder became crystal clear after investigators uncovered life insurance policies totaling $60,000 O’Bryan recently had taken out on his son and daughter.

“I found an adding machine tape,” said Nassif, the former Pasadena detective sergeant. “It had all of his bills written out next to the numbers on an adding machine tape. It came to almost the exact amount of what he stood to collect.” Detectives later found out O’Bryan called insurers the morning after his son died to find out about claiming a payout.

He also appears to have asked anyone who stood still long enough to hear him about the lethalness of cyanide, what was the more poisonous out of different types, the best way to administer them, etc.

Well, O’Bryan never did admit to it. His wife and the children’s mother claimed she had no idea about his plan and testified against him. He was found guilty in 1976 after jurors deliberated an entire 45 MINUTES. Yeah, there wasn’t much doubt there. He was sentenced to death, dying by lethal injection in 1984. (Last meal: steak, fries, peas, and Boston cream pie, because in addition to be a monster and an idiot, he was the most boring steak and potatoes chump.)

Side note: some news outlets at the time and sometimes even now he is referred to as ‘The Candy Man’. This is not to be confused with the serial killer (also from Texas) Dean Corll who is by far the more infamous ‘Candy Man’. Seriously, he was killed in 1973, just before Timothy was poisoned, and his crimes began to come to light. Ronald may have been a boring, stupid monster, but Corll was in a league of awful above and beyond.

You know I love me some true crime, but I won’t be getting into his crimes EVER. Texas just needed to be more creative when naming murderers.

So there you have it, some history, mystery and Texas justice regarding trick or treating. In a nutshell, talk to strangers, don’t eat candy from your family and if you ever see a Chick Tract, read it. It’s comedy gold.

Next Week’s Beer

Cannoneer – Pegasus City Brewery

Happy Ending

Ocean Cleanup Makes History by Successfully Collecting First Plastic From Great Pacific Garbage Patch

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/ocean-cleanup-collects-first-plastic-from-great-pacific-garbage-patch/

After one year of testing, The Ocean Cleanup organization announced this week that their System 001/B vessel is successfully capturing and collecting plastic debris.

The patch is a massive island of trash drifting halfway between California and Hawaii. Over a trillion pieces of debris have collected there because of the swirling vortex of current—a floating mass roughly twice the size of Texas.

After discovering the patch in the 90s, scientists said it would take thousands of years to clean it up—but Slat quickly made a name for himself after he presented a TEDx talk in which he claimed that he could do it in less than ten

Slat dropped out of college so he could bring his plans to life. In addition to crowdfunding $2.2 million for his idea

“After beginning this journey seven years ago, this first year of testing in the unforgivable environment of the high seas strongly indicates that our vision is attainable and that the beginning of our mission to rid the ocean of plastic garbage, which has accumulated for decades, is within our sights,” said Slat.

“Our team has remained steadfast in its determination to solve immense technical challenges to arrive at this point. Though we still have much more work to do, I am eternally grateful for the team’s commitment and dedication to the mission and look forward to continuing to the next phase of development.”

Learn more and hear from the scientists: https://youtu.be/e-fI4ahyHNg

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In This Week’s Show, episode 257, we dive into the spooky, scary, skeletons in Planet X’s murder closet!
Join us tonight at 6:30pm Mountain Standard time (Denver) for another rousing episode of 4 More Beers, our free-to-patrons second show! We'll be recording live, having beers, and chatting with you on the YouTubes! If you want a link visit https://patreon.com/w4w where for as little as a buck a show you'll get to hear me talk about Planet Hole 9 and get a link to the live show later tonight!

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Makemake hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that when you fall off your parents insurance, it’s basically the same as your manufacturer’s warranty expiring.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Aleistair Crowley (aka The Beast, aka The Wickedest Man Alive) had himself a castle in Scotland? On the shores of Loch Ness? That was later bought by Led Zeppelin founder and guitarist Jimmy Page to indulge in lots of drug-fueled occultism and attempts to harness magick.

That castle’s seen some shit is what I’m saying.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Budweiser Discovery Reserve from Shea


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29/409610/
* BA Rating: 3.53 out of 5
* Style: American Amber/Red Lager
* ABV: 5%
* Aaron: 4
* Jenn:4
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table

Prezzies from Steve-E...

Reply to awesome listener Tara’s voicemail.

Hangover cures that work and don’t: episodes 193 & 194

Update from Jenn: I learned this week on Dan’s Cummings Time Suck Podcast that there is a remaining group of Lemurians still around. They’ve moved into hidden caverns within Mt. Shasta.

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The Dark Side of Planet 9!

We’re not strangers to the mysterious 9th planet. Some say it inhabits the outermost rim of the solar system, beyond the smallest-still-a-planet-if-you-ask-me Pluto where, somehow, it’s warm enough for lizard people to live.



Others suggest that it orbits the sun perpendicularly to the rest of the planets in the solar system. The idea being that its orbital plane is roughly 90 degrees off of the sun’s equatorial horizon. To give you an idea of just how far off axis that is, the most steeply tilted known objects are Eris, a dwarf planetoid at 44.0445 degrees, nearly twice that of “make make” whose orbital inclinations is about 29 degrees.

Fun fact, the discovery of Makemake is part of what contributed to downgrading Pluto from a planet to a sad ball of frozen rock no one gives a shit about.

Oh yeah, this is a science story... mostly.

Interestingly, Makemake has a radius of about 444.28 miles, is the second largest known object in the Kepler belt, has a 309 year... year, and one moon. Makemake, actually pronounced mah-kee-mah-kee, is also the god of fertility and creator of humans in the Rapa Nui mythology. Before its discovery was publicly announced the planetoid was given the codename “Easterbunny” as it was found shortly after Easter.

Looks at your phone now to see an orbital diagram of Makemake

So, why does all of this matter?

For starters, it’s interesting. But for our story, it’s a fun introduction to the discovery that Planet X is actually black hole X!

From Vice

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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 256 - The One Where We Springload Jersey's Yowie-Wowie! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-256/ Fri, 04 Oct 2019 13:00:49 +0000 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/?p=48313 In This Week’s Show, episode 256, Jenn goes on an epic hunt for hairy, scary, animalistic crypto-porn.  In This Week’s Show, episode 256, Jenn goes on an epic hunt for hairy, scary, animalistic crypto-porn. 

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ralph Baer hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that life always feels better after a big poo. 

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Sasquatch is the Anglicization of ‘Sasq’ets’, from the Halq’emeylem language spoken by First Nations peoples in southwestern British Columbia? 

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

Hop Peak IPA – Breckenridge Brewery
From RW

This Week’s Show

Round Table 

In hoist with his own petard news, the subject of last week’s faith has been the subject of some scrutiny this week when it was discovered that he referenced Tosh.0 in a tweet when he was 16. When the tweets were mentioned to him he preempted even the reporter who found them to issue a lengthy and, if I do say so, appropriate apology. The reporter on the other hand, has yet to apologize for the extraordinarily, not-at-all-quoting-a-shock-jock racist and homophobic tweets in his own timeline. https://outline.com/AhsktY  

Oh yeah, and the paper he had worked for, fired him.  Thanks to listener Pete for sharing an article with us about it. 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/us/carson-king-aaron-calvin-des-moines-register-trnd/index.html

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Yowie-Zowie!

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Today we’ll be talking about Shea’s kin-folks (and not just his hot sister!)

As our resident Yeti, Shea is of course our show’s official cryptid. His heritage hails from the snowy mountains of Nepal, by way of the snowy mountains of Northern Colorado.

I’m sure everyone is familiar with Shea’s extended North American family. The most popular are his Pacific Northwest clan of the Bigfoots. There’s the southern branch in Florida known as the Skunk Apes, but since the ‘skunk’ is not because of their coloration, they are often not invited to family reunions. (Florida, amirite?) It’s really humid there and deodorant doesn’t cut through the fur

“Skunk Ape” is a terrible thing to call people from Florida Jenn… Jeez, we all know stankopotomus is the preferred nomenclature. 

What Shea won’t tell us though, is where his Yowie brethren come from… given that Australia is a conspiracy and doesn’t really exist.

First, what is a Yowie?

Well, depending on the quality of your auto-correct it’s either a seven to twelve foot tall, white haired, samscquanch from the Australian outback, or a sub-genre of Japanese homoerotic art often published as manga, or when animated, hentai.

Regardless of spelling the noble Yowie and the ignoble yaoi have a surprising number of things in common. For example, both are hunted for primarily online, from dingy basements only lit by the eerie glow of computer monitors displaying only the most trustworthy sites delivered by the shame-reducing encryption of a VPN. Also, nearly all photos of the elusive Yow-s are pixelated beyond recognition.  

For example, the Sun.co.uk proudly reported on the “Best footage yet” of the mythical seven-foot Yowie as recently as 2016. Look at your phones now to see a picture of either a giant cryptid, or a cryptically edited screen grab of which, probably real, Yaoi manga (don’t worry, it’s ok to break out your phone, unless someone nearby is trypophobic I suppose):

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1746368/best-footage-yet-released-of-mythical-seven-foot-yowie-roaming-the-australian-outback/

Now, because I totally do my research… and after some spelling help from Jim I… gritted my teeth and dove in … to Yowiehunteres.com.au the totally not at all crazy-person site widely regarded as the best… first… hit on Google. 

Like all respectable areas of research they have self-published guidelines that include important paragraphs like “what is science?”, “Identifying Empirical Evidence” and a delightfully ironic definition of “Denialism.” 

Since we now know where to find the best self-published research on the Yowie, where would you say the best place to find self-published yaoi is?

  1. WhameBottomLame
  2. Upper Dicker & Lower Dicker
  3. Flesh Shank
  4. Bell End near Lickey End
  5. Booty Lane

Actually, I know no idea. I Googled yaoi but only just wiki articles. That was a list of real villages in England.

Speaking of real places, Australia, if real, is divided into 6 states, 3 territories, and 7 external territories that, I assume, are it’s zanny, upside down version of Porto Rico, the Virgin Islands, or Guam. You know, places they own but don’t give rights or aid to.

Where do you suppose the most Yowie sightings are?

Yeah, I don’t know either because crazy people are bad at math and maps. But going by the icons on this handy sighting map, I’mma go with … New South Wales.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1fSx6Yry7FmM34i3ddxlMEeCfy_k&hl=en_US&ll=-30.708941598979866%2C152.41338303197574&z=6

The first Yowie sightings were said to have been from 1795. The first Yoai was said to have been published in 1970. So 1’s, 7’s and 9’s. I smell a connection!

In 1876 the Australian Town and Country Journal asked readers, in what is certainly the most racist way to phrase a question ever, if they’d heard of the Yowie and by what name they’d called it. For example, the first recognized names… or the first names recognized by a white person and therefore the first names most sites bother to record, called the beast the Yahoo-Devil.

Speaking of SEO names, it’s time for the lightning round!

Panel, let’s play Yowie or Yaoi!

Seriously, install PIA VPN before you click! https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/how-it-works/w4w 

  • yaroma, J St
  • haru wo daiteita, Sh, J, St
  • noocoonah, Sh, J, St 
  • dakaretai, St
  • wawee, J, St, Sh,
  • pangkarlangu, Sh, J,
  • jimbra, 
  • okane ga nai, St, Sh, J,
  • tjangara, Sh, St.5
  • kemohomo, St, Sh, J 

So in conclusion. Yowie’s are Australian crazy beasts, and Yaoi is Japanese crazy books. Both involve shirtless, hairy, beasts hiding in between the pixels with sweaty people way too excited to catch a glimpse of either of them. And if you’d like to know more, check out our Private Internet Access Affiliate link!

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It’s that time again, everyone! Yep, it’s Waiting 4 Wrath’s holiday season, where for every episode for the month of October I’ll be bringing something spooky, scary, occulty, murdery and/or possibly gross. Fair warning.

To start things off in the right spirit, today I’m bringing a double dose of devilry. Or devily? Devil-ish. 

The first story: Sympathy For The Devil – bc I feel bad for him. I think he’s lonely.

I’m sure everyone remembers that last October lovely listener Jesse from Jersey suggested a (for-him) local cryptid, but unfortunately I ran out of October before getting to it. Well, I’m here to rectify that and I’m bringing you all the story of the lesser known, East Coast answer to the chupacabra: The Jersey Devil.

If you’ve never heard of JD (henceforth how he will be referred to; we’re tight), you’re in for a treat. He actually has a rich backstory deserving of at least a limited comic run. He does have one helluva a folk song written about him.

In the southern part of the state of New Jersey there is an immense, weird expanse of coastal forest known as the Pine Barrens. It’s referred to as ‘barren’ because the soil of the well over a million acres is basically just sand and pretty poor for growth of anything other than scrubby pine trees. 

(Interesting side note I read on phillymag.com:

European settlers found the sandy, acidic soil unsuited to farming and left the land largely untouched, but beneath the pines lies a natural reservoir of bacterially sterile, chemically pure H2o that the U.S. Geological Survey has compared to “uncontaminated rain-water or melted glacial ice.”This water, tinted like tea from tannins from cedar trees and iron from the ground, was once prized by sea captains to take along on voyages because it stayed potable longer than any other water.”

It is at the edge of this dense and rumored-haunted woods in or about 1735 that our story begins.  It is here the family Leeds resides in a small home, where the matriarch (conveniently referred to as Mother Leeds) is busily attempting to birth her 13th child. (Ah, the good old days.)

As the legend goes, a few months earlier, when she learned her drunkard husband had knocked her up yet again, she threw her hands up in exasperation and declared, “May the Devil take him.” (cut scene to the Devil, in hell, perking up his pointed ears)

It seems in the interim between this flagrant inticement to Satan and her labor Mother Leeds forgot about her curse. It wouldn’t be long, however, until her sinfulness caught up to her…

Most versions of the story claim this 13th child was born a healthy, normal son, but the versions differ slightly as to when it leveled up into first devil form. In the most frequent tellings it was in a matter of minutes that the infant began to grow at an incredible rate, grew horns, wings, hooves and a tail and began to fly, screeching, around the farmhouse. In my favorite version that I read, after terrifying the family while trying to get its bearings, the devil then flew shrieking out of the chimney and into the night. (Other tellings are more gruesome, with baby JD killing or maiming his family and attending midwives.)

And thus was born the Jersey Devil! Over the centuries since his birth there have multiple sightings, tales of unearthly screeches heard throughout the Pine Barrens and assorted other normal ‘our town has a weird cryptid’ tall tales.

As the above pic demonstrates, there is hardly a consensus on JD’s appearance, apart from wings and a tail and physical proportions that appear…unhealthy.

Now, in the realness of real things, the legend is thought to have arisen as a satirical take on religious-Quaker in-fighting, publishing rights and the rivalry Battle Royale between Titus Leeds and Benjamin Franklin (which includes a lot of ye olde name calling; it’s really hilarious).

The second devil for tonight doesn’t actually have devil in his name, but after you hear his description and check out some contemporary images, I think you’ll agree the moniker fits. I’m calling the second half: The Devil is kind of a perv.

For you patrons, if you remember in episode 251, Aaron discussed the Mad Gasser of Matoon, one of his most amusing stories if I may say. Well, the story of the furtive, cross-dressing, possibly imaginary ‘phantom anesthetist’ in Indiana reminded me of another furtive phantom. This one creeped around about 100 years before ye mad gasser (and almost exactly 100yrs after the birth of JD). 

  1. https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/meet-springheeled-jack-the-leaping-devil-that-terrorized-victorian-england
  2. https://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/Spring-Heeled-Jack/
  3. https://allthatsinteresting.com/spring-heeled-jack

Our story begins in 1830’s jolly old England, London to be exact. Talk had been swirling throughout the neighborhoods that young women and girls were having frightening encounters with some sort of phantom boogeyman. But as these were women it was of course mostly ignored and dismissed as hysteria. This lackadaisical attitude didn’t last though, as the encounters gained in frequency and frightening freakiness. The first actually recorded sighting occurred 1837, when a servant girl named Mary Stevens was walking alone in South London. She was minding her own business when a figure suddenly leapt out at her, grabbed her, and began clawing at her clothes and scratching her body. Her screams drew the attention of some nearby men, but by the time they arrived the agile scratcher had disappeared. 

And thus the first documented report of what/who became known as the elusive, sorta goofy and apparently shape-shifty Spring Heeled Jack was created!

In the world of the unexplained and unsolved, Spring Heeled Jack stands above, and not just because he was said to be able to leap ridiculously high. No, he’s in the running for the most accessories in his oft-changing appearance as well as the most variety of sorta-super-powers

As far as his appearance, he was most commonly described as something like this, from vintagenews.com: “his noticeable features were his tall, thin build with bat-like wings, pointed ears, horns, clawed hands, goatee beard, and wheels of fire for eyes that flashed in the dark night.”  The bat wings seemed to become a long, dark cloak in retellings, but really who knows. Because a few additional forms he is said to have taken include a ghost, bull, bear and ‘inhuman warrior in brass armor’.

A few of his more exciting parlor tricks include the aforementioned leaping (over fences, wall and from rooftop to rooftop, for example, all the while laughing maniacally), eyes that glowed red, ice-cold claws, and the ability to breathe flames. He also seemed to have quite the theatrical flare if the illustrations at the time are to be believed.

He could also speak English. One night in February of 1838, a young woman named Jane Alsop answered the bell at her front door to see a man in cloak claiming to be a police officer. He demands she bring a lantern because Spring Heeled Jack had been caught in the lane by her home. Well, the joke’s on Jane, because as she brought the lantern out to help the apprehension, the man threw off his cloak “to reveal tight-fitting clothes that resembled white oilskin. Then, he breathed blue and white flames into her face and began to cut at her clothes with his claws. Luckily, Alsop’s sister was able to scare the attacker, making him flee from the scene.

From allthatsintersting.com:

Just a few days later, a similar account was reported by an 18-year-old woman named Lucy Scales. She was out walking with her sister in Limehouse when a figure leaped at her from an alley and blew flames into her face, leaving her in a state of hysterics. The attacker left the scene and was never found, though several men were brought in for questioning.

Following the accounts of Jane Alsop and Lucy Scales, Spring-Heeled Jack sightings were reported all around England, even reaching parts of Scotland. His victims were most commonly described as young women and they all described similar accounts of a mysterious man, thin in tight-fitting clothes, red eyes, and claws for hands.

Despite the police’s best efforts, the Mayor of London calling for assistance from the army and general terror in the hearts of young women with a limited wardrobe, Spring Heeled Jack continued bouncing around London and a few other areas of Britain for the next 60 years. The 70 year old Duke of Wellington would arm himself to hunt the fiend on horseback and in 1870 the army (taking fail from Wile E Coyote’s playbook) set traps to catch him after scared sentries reported being terrified by a man who sprang on to the roof of their sentry box.

Spring Heel did eventually fade into obscurity, just in time for another Jack to enter the scene, much to the horror of local women, though he tended to focus mainly on ladies of the night in the White Chapel district.

In the end, no one or nothing was ever found to actually be the elusive, bouncy flouncy phantom. Theories ranging from mass hysteria to wealthy, costumed and bored aristocrats were considered, but to this day there is no satisfactory answer to who or what was giggling, leaping and shredding women’s clothes throughout Britain during a large part of the 19th century.

Next Week’s Beer

Budweiser Discovery Reserve from Shea

Happy Ending

Recently a college student found herself in a situation when her babysitter called off sick leaving her with no one to watch her baby. She emailed her professor, Ramata Sissoko Cissé, at Georgia Gwinnett College to warn her that she’d be forced to bring her baby to her A&P class the next day. Cissé said it was okay.

Once in class though, as babies are prone to doing, the child kept moving making it nearly impossible for her mother to take notes and hold him at the same time. Cissé once again stepped up and said, “Hand me the baby.” This only made it difficult for Cissé to write on the board, so the mother of three improvised and created a sling with a white lab coat and strapped the child to her back. (See pic)

The child quickly fell asleep and remained quiet for the rest of the class. This act of kindness and understanding also translated into the lesson as well, since Cissé was able to use the baby to explain concepts related to the nervous system, brain function, and metabolism. When asked by a student why he was able to sleep so quietly, Cissé explained that with her body temperature next to him, the matching heat made it easier for him to relax. She also explained that warming the baby’s bottle helps the baby’s metabolism. 

Cissé said the student e-mailed her after class to thank her, and she wrote back, “You’re welcome, I’ll always be there for you.” And the student replied, “I know.”

“Love and compassion are part of the philosophy of my classroom,” Cissé said.

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In This Week’s Show, episode 256, Jenn goes on an epic hunt for hairy, scary, animalistic crypto-porn. 
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ralph Baer hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that life always feels better after a big poo. 

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Sasquatch is the Anglicization of ‘Sasq’ets’, from the Halq’emeylem language spoken by First Nations peoples in southwestern British Columbia? 

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

Hop Peak IPA - Breckenridge Brewery
From RW


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2137/308890/
* BA Rating: 3.9 
* Style: IPA
* ABV: 6.5%
* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 4
* Shea:6 
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table 

In hoist with his own petard news, the subject of last week’s faith has been the subject of some scrutiny this week when it was discovered that he referenced Tosh.0 in a tweet when he was 16. When the tweets were mentioned to him he preempted even the reporter who found them to issue a lengthy and, if I do say so, appropriate apology. The reporter on the other hand, has yet to apologize for the extraordinarily, not-at-all-quoting-a-shock-jock racist and homophobic tweets in his own timeline. https://outline.com/AhsktY  

Oh yeah, and the paper he had worked for, fired him.  Thanks to listener Pete for sharing an article with us about it. 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/us/carson-king-aaron-calvin-des-moines-register-trnd/index.html

Patreon Story

Yowie-Zowie!

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Today we’ll be talking about Shea’s kin-folks (and not just his hot sister!)

As our resident Yeti, Shea is of course our show’s official cryptid. His heritage hails from the snowy mountains of Nepal, by way of the snowy mountains of Northern Colorado.

I’m sure everyone is familiar with Shea’s extended North American family. The most popular are his Pacific Northwest clan of the Bigfoots. There’s the southern branch in Florida known as the Skunk Apes, but since the ‘skunk’ is not because of their coloration, they are often not invited to family reunions. (Florida, amirite?) It’s really humid there and deodorant doesn’t cut through the fur

“Skunk Ape” is a terrible thing to call people from Florida Jenn… Jeez, we all know stankopotomus is the preferred nomenclature. 

What Shea won’t tell us though, is where his Yowie brethren come from… given that Australia is a conspiracy and doesn’t really exist.

First, what is a Yowie?

Well, depending on the quality of your auto-correct it’s either a seven to twelve foot tall, white haired, samscquanch from the Australian outback, or a sub-genre of Japanese homoerotic art often published as manga, or when animated, hentai.

Regardless of spelling the noble Yowie and the ignoble yaoi have a surprising number of things in common. For example, both are hunted for primarily online, from dingy basements only lit by the eerie glow of computer monitors displaying only the most trustworthy sites delivered by the shame-reducing encryption of a VPN. Also, nearly all photos of the elusive Yow-s are pixelated beyond recognition.  
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Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Springload Jersey's Yowie-Wowie! yes 59:40
Episode 255 – The One Where We Reroute Ourselves To Saint Guinefort https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-255/ Fri, 27 Sep 2019 13:00:30 +0000 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/?p=48168 In episode 255 we let Saint Shea take the reins and spend the rest of the show trying to convince ourselves that next month is when things’ll get scary... In episode 255 we let Saint Shea take the reins and spend the rest of the show trying to convince ourselves that next month is when things’ll get scary…

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while McAlister’s hasn’t struck us down yet, they’re trying our patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that tattoo’s should make you more employable. It proves you can sit still for hours while having needles jammed in your skin, if that doesn’t prove you can sit through a mindless meeting I don’t know what does. 

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Really didn’t wanna drink the cider this week

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Texas Tea from Bishop Cider Co.

  • Aaron: 7
  • Shea: 6
  • Steve: 5

This Week’s Show

Round Table 

New Patron: EmpressMe ”!” well, here’s to hoping we do!

New itunes review

Love it! Want more!
Loving your show! Where can I find the earlier stuff before 178??? Stitcher doesn’t have them either :`( I’d love to hear y’all from the beginning!!

First off, thanks for the review! We’re glad you like the show. To the question, there are a few places and reasons. First, the feed is truncated for speed, freshness, and shame reasons. It took us a while to find our groove and some of the early content is, well, regrettable. That said, you can find it all on the website under the shows tab as individual downloads. It might not be ideal, but there ya go. If there’s a significant response to this I can investigate letting the feed go further back. The other way to get all our content is to sign up at Patreon. That feed goes back to the 30’s I think and includes all our bonus stories, segments, and shows!

Message from the excellent James:

Aaron recently commented that upon Jenn’s story that he remembered Hyperborean from somewhere, I think I can fill that memory funk in.  Hyperborean was co-opted apparently, which I did not know, by the Lovecraftian/Clark Ashton Smith/Robert E. Howard universe. I had always heard Hyperborean from those three authors, I would actually be interested since they came later than Blavatsky, if they stole from her or if there is older “source” material, ie, myths, stories, folklore.  Sorry sidetracked, what most people will probably remember Hyperborean from though is that Conan the Barbarian is placed in the Hyperborean age, and he does mention it a few times in the books and movies; he is also from Hyperborea.

So there we go, mystery solved!

  • We have a few voicemails. First, Jonathon’s from areola
  • And from the craftally panted, Mr. Bible Pants

Thes short answer here is privacy. Spurred by your voicemail, today’s Patreon segment will actually be a slightly more in depth reply to this question but for brevity’s sake:

Since 2017 American ISPs have been legally allowed to collect and commodify all your traffic. That includes sites you visit and any unencrypted data you transmit knowingly or otherwise. All of this information can be (read, is) coupled with what companies like Google and Facebook already know about you, packaged, and sold to advertisers, the government, etc. The best way to avoid this is to make sure the information leaving your device or house is encrypted and tunnelled through a remote server via a VPN. It’s a pretty painless process and all reputable VPN services have quick start apps to get you going. A VPN will run you 5 to 10/month (unless you have a coupon or something) and should be non-logging VPN services. Because after all, if they’re keeping logs, what’s the difference between them and your ISP? 

Find Out More About PIA VPN Here: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/how-it-works/w4w 

Thanks to Steve E for another awesome beer donation!

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#MillennialProblems, AmIRight?

Last week we talked a fair amount about VPNs and using our affiliate link to set one up. At the risk of sounding like an infomercial for our affiliated partner, I’m going to dive into a question from Mr. Bible Pants in a bit more depth than we were able to in the round table.

Steve and I both work in IT and have old relatives. So hopefully we’ll be able to explain a few of the fundamentals without a lot of confusion. The simplest and I think most impactful reason is surveillance. From Time Magazine:

“VPNs have exploded in the marketplace since the rollback of the Federal Communications Commission’s broadband privacy rules in 2017, because people usually don’t trust their ISP,” says Jerome Joseph, policy counsel at the Center for Democracy and Technology, an online privacy advocacy organization. “And they saw VPNs as a way to avoid the watchful eye of their ISP.” The repeal, signed into law by President Donald Trump, gives your ISP carte blanche to sell your web traffic-related data to marketers, finance companies, and other interested parties, all without your consent.

International listeners may remember when the UK government announced porn users would have to enter their details to be age verified. They also setup “porn cards” you could get a grocers, but that’s still extra creepy. Other countries have similar laws in place, if they even bother letting you know they’re watching you do.

So that’s terrible.

But let’s back up and discuss briefly how your digital world works, what a VPN actually is, and how it applies to you… you know, if you apply it.

First, the internet. Created by curiosity and powered by fear the internet is a dingy, glorious, and disturbed but knowledgeable cesspool. Decentralized communications, which is what got this ball rolling, was meant to be a way to preserve communication should the world come down with a bad case of nuclear fire. Eventually, scientists learned that it could be used to transfer pictures of boobies to each other and the rest is history. A brief, multi-trillion dollar history.

Computers connect to the internet in complicated ways so to keep it simple we’ll talk about Internet Protocol, or IP,  addresses. Think of an IP address as device’s phone number. The wizards of the internet assign your home or company its own external IP address. Inside that network you can have your own unique IP, think of it like a phone extension. The differences don’t matter a ton for our purpose so simply, what resolves a given IP to a unique device are technologies like DHCP. 

Think of it like a phone book. When your computer communicates externally it uses the phone book to look up the number of the name you entered. And because phone books work both ways, the server you’re connecting to knows who you are as well. Previously the IP the server got was part of a block or may have had some anonymizing tech applied your ISP, but those days are long gone.

In reality there are many, many more ways to identify a device on any network including the internet. I’ll speak vaguely about those going forward and encourage you to Google terms that interest you. One thing I will note is that a terrible place to get information is from your ISP or a public forum. I would advise starting with a reputable, consumer focused group like the EFF.org to the aforementioned Center for Democracy and Technology.

So, ISP, DHCP, IP, VPN, and you. Feel like you’re listening to a bowl of spaghetti-o’s yet?

Here’s the bit that matters. When you do whatever you do, questionable or not, people are collecting data on you. Period. In a nutshell, a VPN establishes a secure, encrypted connection between your device and a remote private server that tunnels your traffic to keep it from being seen by others.

It’s kind of like the Batcave. Batman needs to get from under Wayne maner into the world without anyone seeing the garage door open, lest his identity be reveled to more than whoever he’s banging at the time. So, he setup a VPN of sorts by tunneling under the city and now he can hop in the Batmobile at the manor but his traffic won’t be seen until his data, I mean car, come out of the tunnel in Gotham.

A VPN works the same way.

When you enable a VPN it starts an encrypted tunnel for your traffic to go through and when the destination servers see your visits, they see you as being from the open end of the tunnel in Europe or Canada, but not listener manor.

This is why your company likely uses a VPN. Rather than having to worry about the safety of their information traversing the wider internet, they can VPN you into the company network where traffic can then be scrutinized as if it were coming from inside the building.

VPNs are by design and necessity encrypted. After all, tunneling your data through a glass house does no good. That said, a VPN that offers “military grade” encryption is a little suspicious or, at the very least, the marketing boys have run wild. What you’re really looking for is a logless, encrypted, VPN that, hopefully, doesn’t have data caps or rate limits. That is, limits on the amount or speed of data you can transmit. It will also cost you a buck. Frankly, just consider it part of your internet package and move on

From Forbes

“generally, you have to trust your VPN provider with your traffic more than you trust your network,” says Jerry Gamblin, principal security engineer at Kenna Security. He thinks large commercial VPN providers, such as NordVPN or Private Internet Access (PIA), are best, because they are “invested in making sure that your traffic is delivered safely and quickly”. “I have used PIA in the past, but due to some sites filtering those IP addresses, I have moved to building my own VPN server.”

A brief note, you can set up your own VPN. I’ve done this for remoting back into the house from out in the world. Tools like OpenVPN-AS make it free, if not simple, to do. But this only makes accessing local items easier. For security, the point is to make sure your traffic isn’t seen coming or going from your house.

VPNs can protect you from:

  • ISPs tracking you and selling the data they collect on your internet activity
  • Website advertisers spying on you (use a good ad blocker if your VPN doesn’t filter ads on its own)
  • Apps and companies spying on your connection
  • Blanket surveillance and internet communication interception
  • Anyone who wants to identify your IP address or location
  • Companies and apps that want your connection data
  • Creeps trying to intercept your connection and jack your newds

There are tools that can help you pick a VPN. Restore Privacy keeps a short list at Restore Privacy or there’s a larger VPN database at That One Privacy Site makes it easy to compare and contrast different services depending on your needs. Of course, you could also just click our affiliate link. If you find a VPN that offers free services, don’t use it. Like GMail it may have wonderful features and do the job “well enough” but if something is free to the customer the company is making money elsewhere, and in this case (and GMail), it’s either ads or selling your data.

That means choosing a privacy-focused web browser like Brave or search engine like DuckDuckGo, keeping an up-to-date password manager for creating and securely storing unique passwords, and enabling two-factor authentication on your devices and services wherever possible.

Saints For Millennials

Millennials have it tough, the news accusing us of killing everything, shit job market, unaffordable housing, and loads of other fun things I have started to turn back to god to help me find my way… well not really. What I have done is found patron Saints that I think really apply to millennials. So in our dark hours of need while we wait for the Uber to drive us to the hospital, or while we work up the courage to ask mom and dad if you can move it, here are some saints whose deaf ears your prayers will fall upon. 

Saint Cajetan comes to mind for all those fresh out of college bright eyed and jobless. Those working service jobs with degrees and PHDs while applying to anything in their field. Cajetan was a wealthy lawyer that gave it all up to help the poor, establishing hospitals, pawn shops, low interest lenders. Patron Saint of the unemployed. Oh Saint Cajetan, hear my prayers in my time of need. Let my CV rise above all others and my suit be free of dog hair. Let all those who stand against me have garlic breath and poor hygiene. Amen

Many of the millenials have resigned themselves to our abject poverty but some intrepid few have taken a different route and with the growing marijuana industry and growing legality have become legal drug traffickers, well have I got a saint for you, a two birds one stone scenario. Saint Jèsus Malverde is a folk saint from Mexico, not officially recognized by the catholc church. A mexican Robin Hood, who after his parents were killed, became a bandit and stole from the rich to give to the poor. Though his existence isn’t historically verified, he has gained a literal cult following and has been called the Narco-Saint. Known widely as the saint of drug traffickers and the impoverished. I think I remember an episode of Breaking Bad where you can see a shrine to him in the background.

Dating is really hard and I’m happy I don’t need to do it anymore, but for those of you out there having bouts of loneliness Saint Rita is here for you. A sad story of a girl who was married off at 12 years old to an abusive husband. Who, despite Rita’s best efforts, couldn’t stop abusing her, after 18 years of hell marriage he was killed by his neighbors in a silly dispute. After years of devotion she was canonized as the patron saint of loneliness. Also because of her abusive husband, she is saint of abuse, marital problems, and sterility. Oh Lovely rita saintly maid, please let me swipe right on ms right, and let me hide my imperfections until they are in too deep. Amen, or rather woman please. 

If Saint Rita doesn’t do the trick, there is a possibility that maybe you’re just a little ugly… Don’t fret, my friend because today I’ll introduce you to Saint Drogo. No not Khal Drogo this was a man who supposedly could perform bilocation, being able to physically be in two places at once, and used it to both work in his fields and pray in church. Personally I think he had a really boring twin. Well anyway, while working in his fields he was struck with a body deforming mailody and after frightening everyone he came in contact with found sanctuary in a church for the rest of his life. While his life is our gain as we can pray to him that our ugly asses get some love too. Also due to his ability to be two places at once he must of had boundless energy thus becoming the patron saint of coffee too. Saint Drogo hear my cry, let me be pretty or else I’ll die, give me some coffee so i can awake, I need caffeine for everyone’s sake. Amen

Do you have the tendency to sleep through your alarm? Or, like me, simply turn it off while you’re still 95 percent asleep? Give a nod to St. Vitus, though his tie to oversleeping is both thin and disturbing. When the teenage convert to Christianity was thrown into a pot of boiling oil as punishment for his religious preference, a rooster was added to the cauldron as part of the sacrifice. The bird has since become a symbol for Vitus, hence his interest in helping you get to work on time. Also if you remember Jenn’s story a few weeks ago about the dancing epidemics that swept Europe, the dancers may have had better luck surviving if they prayed to Vitus, as he is also the saint of dancing, and comedy for that matter. 

Where would our generation be without the complete lexicon of human knowledge at our fingertips which we use solely for cat videos and snooping on our friends? Really where would we be? Anyway, we have Saint Isidore of Seville to pray to for that. Isidore wrote numerous books, including a dictionary, an encyclopedia, a history of Goths, and a history of the world—beginning with creation, of course…  Known now as the patron saint of the internet. Oh Saint Isidore we pray to thee for a strong unsecure wifi signal and virus free downloads. Let me stay within my cell carriers network and keep my 4G strong. Amen

You know that feeling you get when it’s the end of the month and you’re eating ramen and learn you forgot to pay a bill? You know that knot that binds in your stomach and the anxiety that bubbles in your gut. Unless you’re lucky enough to have health insurance your best bet is saying a silent prayer to Saint Erasmus, Patron saint of stomach ailments and abdominal pain. Erasmus, or Elmo to his friends, was a christian during a bad time to be a christian and after being captured and tortured repeatedly was eventually killed by having his intestines cut from him and wrapped around a windlass, like a crank, hence the saint of stomachs. Not only is he the saint of stomach pain but curiously enough sailors, who apparently also use windlasses. 

If Elmo doesn’t respond to your cries maybe you could try Saint Januarius. A saint known for his wicked old blood that, three times a year, goes through liquefaction (where the blood turns liquid again) apparently. Because of this “miracle” or some shit he has become the patron Saint of blood banks, you know that place us millennials frequent to sell our blood to help make rent this month. Oh and if you look at his picture, check your phone now, he was also the saint of being done with your shit. Oh Saint Januarius let the nurse not miss a vein and let there be chocolate chip and not oatmeal raisin cookies. Amen

After a long recording and a few/lots of beers, the morning after typically sucks, I have finally come to understand the phrase “I’m getting too old for this shit.”In the future, one might say a quick prayer to Saint Bibiana. Bibi was a relatively unremarkable martyr who after her death was said to have strange herbs growing from her grave that some idiot decided to eat and turned out to cure his hangover instantly. Some, heretics no doubt, say the whole thing is nothing more than a harmless little play on words, Bibilus which means “to be fond of drinking” morphs into Bibiana. But they were heathens deserving of hangovers. 

Though Saint Guinefort is not an official saint according to the Catholic Church, he is something of a folk saint receiving local veneration after reported miracle occurred at his grave site. Legend has it that Guinefort was liege to a great french knight. The knight left Guinefort in charge of his baby son only to return to chaos, a missing baby, and Guinefort mouth covered in blood. Believing Guinefort of having eaten his son the knight immediately slew him. Shortly after he heard a child crying; he turned over a cot and found his son lying there, safe and sound, along with the body of a viper. Guinefort had killed the snake and saved the child. Oh I should probably point out Guineford was a greyhound… Realizing his mistake the Knight build a shrine for his fallen friend where word spread of the Noble dogs deeds and many travels from afar to pray for protection for their children. Thus becoming the unofficial saint of children and gaining a literal cult following. The cult of this dog saint persisted for several centuries, until the 1930s, despite the repeated prohibitions of the Catholic Church. Buzzkills. Babies are not something high on most millenials lists, but definitely a dog instead. Also who could resist a dog saint?  Oh Saint Guinefort, hear my prayers. Who’s a good boy, who is? Who’s a good boy? Amen

With the number of jobs an average millenial will hold in their lifetime it’s a real pain in the ass to look up a new saint every time you change professions. So why not find a jack of all trades saint? Saint Catherine of Alexandria, or Jane of all trades, was martyred in the 4th century for pretty much converting everyone she met with her eloquence, or so says wikipedia. She lived, or rather died and fell into obscurity until some french girl had a dream about her over 1100 years later, than girl was Joan of Arc BTW. Well one thing led to another and Catherine became patron saint of just about everything; Unmarried girls, craftsmen who work with a wheel, archivists, dying people, educators, girls, jurists, knife sharpeners, lawyers, librarians, mechanics, millers, hat-makers, nurses, philosophers, preachers, scholars, schoolchildren, secretaries, and spinsters to name a few.  

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Breck IPA – Breckenridge Brewery

From RW

Happy Ending

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In episode 255 we let Saint Shea take the reins and spend the rest of the show trying to convince ourselves that next month is when things’ll get scary...
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while McAlister's hasn’t struck us down yet, they’re trying our patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that tattoo’s should make you more employable. It proves you can sit still for hours while having needles jammed in your skin, if that doesn't prove you can sit through a mindless meeting I don’t know what does. 

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Really didn’t wanna drink the cider this week

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Texas Tea from Bishop Cider Co.


Untapped Link: https://untappd.com/b/bishop-cider-company-texas-tea/2742498
UT Rating: 3.5
Style: Herbed/Spiced Cider
ABV: 6%



Aaron: 7
Shea: 6
Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table 

New Patron: EmpressMe ”!” well, here’s to hoping we do!

New itunes review

Love it! Want more!
Loving your show! Where can I find the earlier stuff before 178??? Stitcher doesn’t have them either :`( I’d love to hear y’all from the beginning!!

First off, thanks for the review! We’re glad you like the show. To the question, there are a few places and reasons. First, the feed is truncated for speed, freshness, and shame reasons. It took us a while to find our groove and some of the early content is, well, regrettable. That said, you can find it all on the website under the shows tab as individual downloads. It might not be ideal, but there ya go. If there’s a significant response to this I can investigate letting the feed go further back. The other way to get all our content is to sign up at Patreon. That feed goes back to the 30’s I think and includes all our bonus stories, segments, and shows!

Message from the excellent James:

Aaron recently commented that upon Jenn's story that he remembered Hyperborean from somewhere, I think I can fill that memory funk in.  Hyperborean was co-opted apparently, which I did not know, by the Lovecraftian/Clark Ashton Smith/Robert E. Howard universe. I had always heard Hyperborean from those three authors, I would actually be interested since they came later than Blavatsky, if they stole from her or if there is older "source" material, ie, myths, stories, folklore.  Sorry sidetracked, what most people will probably remember Hyperborean from though is that Conan the Barbarian is placed in the Hyperborean age, and he does mention it a few times in the books and movies; he is also from Hyperborea.

So there we go, mystery solved!


We have a few voicemails. First, Jonathon’s from areola
And from the craftally panted, Mr. Bible Pants


Thes short answer here is privacy. Spurred by your voicemail, today’s Patreon segment will actually be a slightly more in depth reply to this question but for brevity’s sake:

Since 2017 American ISPs have been legally allowed to collect and commodify all your traffic. That includes sites you visit and any unencrypted data you transmit knowingly or otherwise. All of this information can be (read, is) coupled with what companies like Google and Facebook already know about you, packaged, and sold to advertisers, the government, etc. The best way to avoid this is to make sure the information leaving your device or house is encrypted and tunnelled through a remote server via a VPN. It’s a pretty painless process and all reputable VPN services have quick start apps to get you goi...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve yes 54:31
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 254 - The One Where We Make Jellyfish Borscht for Ancient Lemur Wizards https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-254/ Fri, 20 Sep 2019 13:00:10 +0000 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/?p=48012 In This Week’s Show, episode 254, we go full spiritualist on the Nazis and full mythical on Milwaukee. In This Week’s Show, episode 254, we go full spiritualist on the Nazis and full mythical on Milwaukee.

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Giant three-eyed Lemurians haven’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Then protect your damn internet traffic with Private Internet Access!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if you have ten apples in one hand and six apples in the other, you have really big hands.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Gondwana is the 4th most recent supercontinent? It lasted until the Jurassic Period and broke apart about 180 million years ago.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Breck Lager – Breckenridge Brewery

From – RW

  • BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2137/182686/
  • BA Rating: 3.52
  • Style: Lager
  • ABV: 4.5%
  • Aaron: 5
  • Jenn: 2
  • Shea: 5 < –Yep thats beer
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Modern Spiritualism

Since we talked last week about the origins of spiritualism, and in just a few minutes Jenn will catch us up on the end of that, I thought “why not talk about spiritualism today?”… then I Googled…

Some things you simply shouldn’t Google…

So I’ll Just say upfront that the modern spiritualist landscape could not only fill this show and dozens more like it, but could easily be its own show… and in fact is if you count the gobs of podcasts that cater to spiritualists.

I knew iTunes had a pretty wide distribution, but to the dead!?!

As we talked about last week, modern spiritualism traces itself back to the Fox sisters. Who, upon later needing money, announced that their announcement of fraud was itself fraudulent. Because ghosts!

Following the Fox sisters, some wrap up from the BBC.

In the 1860’s one could sit for spirit photography – a practice “invented” by William H. Mumler when he accidentally took a double exposure and didn’t know what it was. Soon seances were everywhere and perpetually debunked practitioners like Daniel Dunglas Home – who “levitated” out of windows and back – captivated the imaginations of celebrities like Arthur Conan Dole, who in 1918 said the movement offered “infinitely nearer positive proof” than any other religion giving it way too much notoriety.

The first Spiritualist church opened in Keighly, Yorkshire in 1853. They published the Yorkshire Telegraph, the first spiritualist newspaper.

In 1882 the Society for Psychical Research was founded to use science to test spiritualist claims beginning a long tradition of shit going poorly for spiritualists.

In 1890 Keighly hosted the first Spiritualist conference. Later founding the first organization of Spiritualist churches in the UK as the Spiritualists’ National Federation, SNF.

This organization was succeeded in 1902 by the Spiritualists’ National Union. The SNU had 360 affiliated churches, and 18k members. Their American contemporary, the National Spiritualist Association of Churches, NSAC, was founded as the National Spiritualist Association in 1893, but we’ll catch up with the NSA shortly…

In the 1920’s the Catholic, Anglican, and other major religions admonished spiritualism at the Lembeth Conference. Despite this, by the 1930’s there were about 250,000 practicing spiritualists.

The Fraudulent Mediums Act of 1951 made it illegal for people to pretend to act as spiritualistic mediums for money or other reward. This act was repealed in April 2008, and fraudulent mediums are now covered by consumer protection legislation, namely The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 (UK law).

Spiritualism, because of its inherent lack of definition – always a problem when trying to organize intentionally baseless, undefinable, bullshit – most large spiritualist groups recognize a loose set of tenants rather than a specific set of “beliefs” as such.

Many mix their beliefs with Christianity, which just changes spiritualist values like “The Fatherhood of God” to “I believe in one God who is Love” and the value “The Brotherhood of man” to “The Leadership of Jesus the Christ.” So… it mixes well with other nonsense.

The NSA, again the National Spiritualist Association, was founded with the hope that it would help interested persons “distinguish genuine mediumship“, whatever the fuck that means, from the rapidly proliferating varieties of fraudulent mediumship (read: non-dues paying mediums), “increase communication among Spiritualists, prevent the legal prosecution of spirit mediums under fortune telling and medical licensing laws, and counterattacks by ‘orthodox’ ministers in the press.“”

Eventually becoming The National Spiritualist Association of Churches, the NSAC seems to be the largest and most cohesive American group. Spiritualism, as defined by NASC, has nine principles which provide more information about Spiritualist beliefs:

  1. We believe in Infinite Intelligence.
    Which, oddly, none of them seem to have. Bazinga!
  2. We believe that the phenomena of Nature, both physical and spiritual, are the expression of Infinite intelligence.
    Because why the fuck not?
  3. We affirm that a correct understanding of such expression and living in accordance therewith, constitute true religion.
    Because tax breaks…
  4. We affirm that the existence and personal identity of the individual continue after the change called death.
    hahahahaha
  5. We affirm that communication with the so-called dead is a fact, scientifically proven by the phenomena of Spiritualism.
    unfortunately, none of them have bothered to prove the definition of “scientifically”
  6. We believe that the highest morality is contained in the Golden Rule: ‘Whatsoever ye would that others should do unto you do ye also unto them.
    Appeal to pseudo-ancient gibberish, check.
  7. We affirm the moral responsibility of the individual, and that we make our own happiness or unhappiness as we obey or disobey Nature’s physical and spiritual laws.
    blah blah, power of the mind, blah blah, that’s not what “responsibility” means
  8. We affirm that the doorway to reformation is never closed against any human soul here or hereafter.
    … Is that you Full Metal?
  9. We affirm that the precepts of Prophecy and Healing contained in all sacred texts are Divine attributes proven through Mediumship.
    Even the Necronomicon.

Over the years, arguments about “What Spiritualism Is and Does” and “Spiritual Healing” have fractured the already poorly defined practice. The two issues of “reincarnation” and the relation of Spiritualism to Christianity have been the major questions dividing Spiritualists.

These arguments were adopted into NSAC in October 1914, 1919, 1930, 1950 during the organization’s annual conventions to bring splitters back into the fold:

  • Spiritualism is the Science, Philosophy and Religion of continuous life, based upon the demonstrated fact of communication, by means of mediumship, with those who live in the Spirit World. (1919)
  • Spiritualism Is a Science Because it investigates, analyzes and classifies facts and manifestations demonstrated from the spirit side of life.
  • Spiritualism Is a Philosophy because it studies the Laws of Nature both on the seen and unseen sides of life and bases its conclusions upon present observed facts. It accepts statements of observed facts of past ages and conclusions drawn therefrom, when sustained by reason and by results of observed facts of the present day.
  • Spiritualism Is a Religion because it strives to understand and to comply with the Physical, Mental and Spiritual Laws of Nature, which are the laws of God.
  • A Spiritualist is one who believes, as the basis of his or her religion, in the communication between this and the Spirit World by means of mediumship and who endeavors to mould his or her character and conduct in accordance with the highest teachings derived from such communication. (1914, Rev. 1938)
  • A Medium is one whose organism is sensitive to vibrations from the spirit world and through whose instrumentality, intelligences in that world are able to convey messages and produce the phenomena of Spiritualism. (1914)
  • A Spiritualist Healer is one who, either through one’s own inherent powers or through mediumship, is able to impart vital, curative force to pathologic conditions. (1930, 1993)
  • The Phenomena of Spiritualism consists of Prophecy, Clairvoyance, Clairaudience, Gift of Tongues, Laying on of Hands, Healing, Visions, Trance, Apports, Levitation, Raps, Automatic and Independent Writings and Paintings, Voice, Materialization, Photography, Psychometry and any other manifestation proving the continuity of life as demonstrated through the Physical and Spiritual senses and faculties of man. (1950)

If any of that sounds like something you can’t live… or die without… you can join head to Milwaukee – gathering place of all things mythical and bullshit – next week from Sept. 29 to Oct. 4th. According to the NSAC newsletter I’m now subscribed to, they will help you become a certified* National Spiritualist Teacher.

They also have a Ministerial Skills Course, a new 27-lesson course called Spiritualism: A religion of Happiness, Individual Study programs with… people, a new course called Message to the World—Knowledge Saves Us, through Lesson 27: Happiness is Our Religion—From Darkness to Light, a Gratitude Corner, and they’ll be selling new NSAC approved books: Astral Projection for Beginners, Out-of-Body Exploring: A beginners Approach (to peeping, because what the fuck else would you use this power for), and of course Out-of-Body Experiences: How to Have Them and What to Expect. (fucked caps theirs)

Needless to say this is a buffet of nonsense that I will definitely be coming back to.

Extra Crap

It’s stupid and funny, but we won’t get to it for time reasons. Most of this is copied from the Wiki article on NSAC or the BBC’s now off-line page on Spiritualism.

You could become an active member of the Fox Property Project which started in 1998 when the Hydesville property was acquired by the NSAC and a memorial park was designed. This was the home of the Fox family and the property in which Modern Spiritualism began. The site of the Fox cottage in Hydesville, New York is thought to be a Mecha for all Spiritualists and its restoration is supported by the descendants of the Fox sisters.

They also have a handful of “Beliefs” which are different from the other beliefs because stop asking questions.

The Fatherhood of God

  • The creative force in the universe is what Spiritualists know as God
  • That force created life in the beginning and still does so today

The Brotherhood of Man

  • All human beings are members of one divine family because they spring from the same creative force

The Communion of Spirits and the Ministry of Angels

  • All religions believe in life after death but only Spiritualism shows that it is true by showing that communication with departed spirits actually occurs
  • Spiritualist Churches provide one of the venues where communication, through mediumship, is possible

The continuous existence of the human soul

  • Matter (being part of the creative force, or energy) cannot be destroyed; it merely changes its form. Spirit, as part of the Creative Force is, therefore, indestructible.
  • On the death of the physical body, the spirit continues as an integral part of the spiritual world
  • The spiritual world interpenetrates this material world, but in a different dimension
  • In spirit life we have a spirit body, which, until we progress far enough, is a replica of our earthly body
  • Individuals in the spirit world remain the same individuals with the same personalities and characteristics
  • Individuals in the spirit world only progress through their own efforts
  • Individual personal responsibilities do not stop at death.

Personal responsibility

  • Each individual is responsible for their wrongful thoughts and deeds
  • No other person, or outside influence can interfere with an individual’s spiritual development, unless they allow them to

Compensation and retribution hereafter for all the good and evil deeds done on earth

  • As you sow, so shall you reap
  • The compensatory or retributive effects of this law operate now – they do not wait until life in the Spirit World.

Eternal progress open to every human soul

  • Every human spirit has the power to progress in wisdom and love
  • The rate of progress is directly proportional to the desire for mental and spiritual understanding
  • Each spirit always has the opportunity to reform, and to deal with the wrong things it has done in the past

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  • http://www.unariunwisdom.com/the-seven-root-races/ (mostly bullshit)
  • https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/eugenics-ucl-toby-young-conference-how-it-became-mainstream-a8154316.html
  • https://www.thebereancall.org/content/eugenics-and-nazis (woo woo bullshit)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race
  • https://blavatskytheosophy.com/human-evolution-in-the-secret-doctrine/ (extra bullshit)
  • https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/blavatsky-judaism-and-nazism/ (really weird)
  • http://www.katinkahesselink.net/faq/ariosophy.html (woo-y, but some actual information)
  • http://www.unariunwisdom.com/the-seven-root-races/ (uuugh)
  • https://www.amazon.com/Occult-Roots-Nazism-Influence-Ideology/dp/0814730604 (gift idea for ME)

Picking up where we left off with Madame B Crazy, I have to note that this is the official point in my research where I have most likely ended up on some Federal list. Also, a huge chunk of my time was spent trying to strain the tiny granules of truth floating in a borscht of bullshit.

In case you may have forgotten, we left off with Helena recovering from her infected leg and marathon fever-dream writing of the 6 part ‘The Secret Doctrine’ (not 100% sure when one ended and the other began, but no one remembers dates really anyway).

A quick review of what we last spoke of, The Secret Doctrine detailed the ‘seven root races of humanity’. Who can name them? Before I get started, just getting this out of the way: the fantasy world building has some gaping ‘logic’ holes.

  1. Invisible astral jellyfish (aka in the teachings of theosophy as the Polar Race representing fire [wtf?])
  2. The bodiless Hyperboreans (who apparently resided near the North Pole and represented air)
  3. My personal favorite, the sex-enthused Lemurian lemurs with eyes in the back of their head (representing water).
  4. The Atlanteans who, for some stupid reason, represent earth (table top gaming REVOKED)
  5. I said last week and it is often written as ‘ourselves’. Well, SURPRISE! Technically this race is referred to as…Aryans. Yup. (Oh yeah, we still haven’t unlocked races 7 and 8.)

So yes! I’m starting this entry off with overtly racist fake-science! And probably ending it that way too.

Quickly, in an effort to present this somewhat fairly, most contemporary theosophists argue themselves into tizzies that our current idea of ‘the Aryan people’ is not what Blavatsky meant. There’s obviously more to this but I’m going to touch on the theosophist rebuttal after giving more info on the jellyfish and lemurs and racism and let you make your own determinations.

As the granddaughter of a horrible man who was a proud member of Aryan Nations (whose ranks include Timothy McVeigh and the members of the Ruby Ridge standoff), let me give a quick definition of what current garbage people mean by Aryan. Now, the actual-for-realsy definition, per Merriam-Webster, is:

of or relating to a hypothetical ethnic type illustrated by or descended from early speakers of Indo-European languages. With the knowledge that the word ‘hypothetical’ is in the real definition, here’s what is most often thought: used in Nazism to designate a supposed master race of non-Jewish Caucasians usually having Nordic features (giant eye roll).

Alright, that out of the way, the following quoted information regarding “humanity’s root races” all comes from unariumwisdom.com, which is just as valuable as it sounds.

No 1. the jellyfish:

“primarily spiritual, and did not leave any physical remains – they were “ethereal”, and were consequently composed of etheric energy/matter. Their reproduction was accomplished by them dividing similar to that of amoebas. Moreover, at the time of the 1st root race the earth was still cooling; and it is said that the first mountain to rise out of the chaotic primal ocean was “Mount Meru”.

No. 2: The 2nd root race lived in Hyperborea which includes what is now Northern Canada, Greenland, Iceland, Scandinavia, Northern Asia, and Kamchatka. The 2nd root race was colored golden yellow and the climate was tropical in consequence of the earth not having yet developed an axial tilt. The esoteric name of the 2nd root race’s continent is “Plaksha”, and they called themselves the “Kimpurshas”. This root race reproduced by budding; and today, there are no descendents. (sad day)

No. 3: The 3rd root race was the first race with physical bodies, and they were described as a black race of three eyed giants who inhabited the “lost continent” of Lemuria. (Whether this is a race of giant black lemurs with the three eyes in the back of their heads is not clear.) It is believed that this continent existed where the Indian and Pacific oceans now are. Modern theosophists identify Lemuria with the actual ancient supercontinent of Gondwana.

No. 4: Atlanteans (and nary a Jason Mamoa to be found, also none of the actually fun Atlantean mythos either). Historically speaking, Atlantis was first mentioned in two of Plato’s dialogues. All from distant-hand accounts, he talks both about how advanced it was as a civilization, the construct of the island civilization, and how it was destroyed by some ocean catastrophe. Now, per the theosophists:

According to Theosophy teachings, the 4th root race was called the “Atlantean” race. It appeared approximately 4,500,000 years ago in Africa, and originated from the 4th sub-race of the Lemurian root race…

The seven sub-races of the Atlantean root race are:

  1. The Rmoahal
  2. The Tlavati (Cro-Magnons)
  3. The Toltec (a Theosophical term which use for “American Indians”)
  4. The Turanian
  5. The original Semites (e.g., the Phoenicians, etc)
  6. The Akkadians
  7. The Mongolian (who migrated to and colonized East Asia)

According to traditional Theosophy, the 4th root race (Atlantean) began with golden brown skin, and because some Atlanteans migrated to the Americas and Asia they gradually evolved into the red American Indian, brown Malayan, and yellow Mongolian races – as well as some groups of what, in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, was referred to as the “olive-skinned” Mediterranean race.

Eeewwwww….

For #4, here is the definition of the current Earth inhabitants and whatnot and is very reminiscent of the Book of Mormon. Also, this history is desperately edited so I’m not in this room for the rest of my life:

Theosophists believe that the Aryan root race was physically created by the Vaivasvatu Manu – one of the Masters of the Ancient Wisdom (remember them?Maybe not, I didn’t talk about them much, but they were briefly touched on in our last episode). The Aryan root race is white because it originates from a specific tribe of the 4th (original Semite) sub-race of the Atlanteans, which was white skinned and lived in the mountains of north-eastern Atlantis. … The original Aryan root race was comprised of 9,000 who migrated from Atlantis in 79,797 BC. A small group of these migrants split from the main body and went south to the shore of an inland sea in what was then a verdant and lush Sahara where they founded the “City of the Sun”. This city came to be ruled, about 70,000 BC, by an incarnation of the being who later became known as the “Ascended master, St. Germain”.

The main body of the Aryan migrants continued onwards to an island called the “white island” in the middle of what was then an inland sea in what is now the Gobi desert, where they established the “City of the Bridge”.

The “City of the Bridge” was built directly below the etheric city called “Shamballa” where Theosophists believe the governing deity of Earth, “Sanat Kumara”, dwells. Consequently, the evolution and development of the Aryan root race has been “divinely guided” by the being that Theosophists identify as “The Lord of the World”.

Theosophists believe that a large percentage of the people who live in the time of the period of the 5th root race are part of the 5th root race. However Blavatsky declared that some Semitic peoples have become “degenerate in spirituality”. She further asserted that some groups descended from the Lemurians are “semi-animal creatures”, and these include “the Tasmanians, a portion of the Australians, and a mountain tribe in China.” There are also “considerable numbers of the mixed Lemuro-Atlantean peoples produced by various crossings with such semi-human stocks — e.g. the Wild Men of Borneo, the Veddhas of Ceylon, most of the remaining Australians, Bushmen, Negritos, Andaman Islanders, etc.”

All these groups mentioned by Blavatsky are part of what was in the late 19th and most of the 20th century was called the Australoid race (except for the Bushmen, part of the Capoid race, which were believed by traditional Theosophists to have been descended from the Lemurians).

Blavatsky described the 5th root race:

“The Aryan races, for instance, now varying from dark brown, almost black, red-brown-yellow, down to the whitest creamy colour, are yet all of one and the same stock – the 5th root-Race – and spring from one single progenitor, which Hindus call Manu.

Theosophists believe that each root race has a separate and distinct progenitor.

The sub-races of the Aryan 5th root race include:

  • 1st sub-race – the Hindu
  • 2nd sub-race – the Arabian
  • 3rd sub-race – the Persian
  • 4th sub-race – the Celts
  • 5th sub-race – the Teutonic

6th sub-race – According to Blavatsky the 6th sub-race of the Aryan 5th root race will begin to evolve in the area of the United States in the early 21st century. This 6th sub-race of the Aryan root race will be called the Australo-American sub-race and is believed by Theosophists to be now arising from the Teutonic sub-race of the Aryan root race in Australia and in the Western United States (Many individuals of the new sub-race will be born in California.) and its surrounding nearby areas (i.e. the Australo-American sub-race is presently in the process of arising from the Anglo-American, Anglo-Canadian, Anglo-Australian and presumably also the Anglo-New Zealander ethnic groups). The 6th or Australo-American subrace will “possess certain psychic powers, and for this the pituitary body will be developed, thus giving an additional sense, that of cognising astral emotions in the ordinary waking consciousness. We may say that in general the 6th sub-race will bring in wisdom and intuition, blending all that is best in the intelligence of the 5th sub-race and the emotion of the 4th.”

Obviously Madame B had no clue the Trump administration was coming.

So it’s clear why someone who wanted some gobbledy-goo telling him his race was superior may have been drawn to Blavatsky’s writings (could it be Hitler?). But just to get this out of the way, Blavatsky was NOT a Nazi. Seeing as how she died in 1891 when Hitler was all of 2 years old, the title not really up for debate. However, despite what current theosophists try to portray, she had some…problematic views on race. The fact that the Society’s emblem has a pretty prominent swastika doesn’t help her cause much, despite the fact she did get there first.

One of theosophy’s biggest defense for what boils down to as ‘she’s only a little racist’ is that, of the three ‘objects’ of the theosophical society, the first rule of Crazy Club is there is no…wait, it’s that their organization accepts all people “without distinction of race, creed, sex or cast”. Additionally, per Katinka Hesselink of katinkahessellink.net, when successful the society would “break down racial and national antipathies and barriers; it will open the way to the practical realisation of Brotherhood of all men.

Now Katinka is the queen of the Blavatsky apologists, but at least she can write a somewhat coherent sentence, so most of my info on the theosophist rebuttal comes from her online writings as well as some excerpts from Nickolas Goodrick-Clarke’s 1985 book, The Occult Roots of Nazism: Secret Aryan Societies (I am on SUCH a watch list).

Goodrick-Clarke is not a Blavatsky apologist, just puts her writings into a broader societal and cultural context. Or, to put bluntly, there was a lot of worse stuff being written at the turn of the 20th century about the superiority of certain races. (Goodrick-Clarke did also refer to Theosophy as “monumental pseudoscience” so points to him. )

Back to Katinka, in a generalized nutshell, she claims the reason Blavatsky keeps getting blamed for anti-Semitic teachings actually comes from people’s changing thought patterns due to Social Darwinism, and that while some readers of ‘The Secret Doctrine’ did indeed start leaning to the Reicht (har har har), it was due to the science-ish-ness of Social Darwinism creating division in groups of people.

Now at this point Goodrick-Clarke and his book begin to merge ideas with Katinka that it’s not actually theosophists who’re the proponents of super-anti-Semitic doctrine. No, what people are actually thinking of is Ariosophy. What’s that? It’s an ideological system created and perpetrated by, no kidding, Guido von List and Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels. Basically it’s a white supremacy philosophy where Aryans are not only the supreme race (who created language), but the only one capable of enlightenment and the only true humans. From that last little nugget, Guido Von List actually coined the term “Theozoology”, which shall not be defined. (Also, he himself added the Von in his name in 1903 to sound more aristocratic, so he’s a putz.) He also was a reader and fan of guess what 6 part weirdo spiritual book series?

If you’ve watched the first Hellboy and/or 2nd Captain America movies you’ll know that there was quite the love of Norse mythology, magick, and assorted other occult goodness. It went all the way up to SS leader Heinrich Himmler, but I bet Steve has beaten me to this tidbit. Well most of the Nazi obsession with wacky-woo has Von List to thank as he pushed forward such mystical teachings as the power of runes, sun worship, merging with nature spirits, Hindu time cycles and magical artefacts. (Don’t be fooled with how fun that sounds, he was a horrible garbage monster.)

Now before I finish up, take a moment to envision what you think an early 20th century super-racist pseudo intellectual named Guido Von List looks like.

Final word: while Blavatsky may not be a full blown proto-Nazi, despite her mealy-mouthed mumbo jumbo about the harmony of humanity, she definitely had her share of racist, bigoted and harmful ideas. Sure, she may have wonked the worst of her teachings up with talk of Atlantis and practically indecipherable bullshit, but she’s not linked to the Nazis for no reason. And honestly, there’s no such thing as ‘just a little bit Nazi’.

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Modern Spiritualism

Since we talked last week about the origins of spiritualism, and in just a few minutes Jenn will catch us up on the end of that, I thought “why not talk about spiritualism today?”… then I Googled…

Some things you simply shouldn’t Google…

So I’ll Just say upfront that the modern spiritualist landscape could not only fill this show and dozens more like it, but could easily be its own show… and in fact is if you count the gobs of podcasts that cater to spiritualists.

I knew iTunes had a pretty wide distribution, but to the dead!?!

As we talked about last week, modern spiritualism traces itself back to the Fox sisters. Who, upon later needing money, announced that their announcement of fraud was itself fraudulent. Because ghosts!

Following the Fox sisters, some wrap up from the BBC.

In the 1860’s one could sit for spirit photography - a practice “invented” by William H. Mumler when he accidentally took a double exposure and didn’t know what it was. Soon seances were everywhere and perpetually debunked practitioners like Daniel Dunglas Home - who “levitated” out of windows and back - captivated the imaginations of celebrities like Arthur Conan Dole, who in 1918 said the movement offered “infinitely nearer positive proof” than any other religion giving it way too much notoriety.

The first Spiritualist church opened in Keighly, Yorkshire in 1853. They published the Yorkshire Telegraph, the first spiritualist newspaper.

In 1882 the Society for Psychical Research was founded to use science to test spiritualist claims beginning a long tradition of shit going poorly for spiritualists.

In 1890 Keighly hosted the first Spiritualist conference. Later founding the first organization of Spiritualist churches in the UK as the Spiritualists' National Federation, SNF.

This organization was succeeded in 1902 by the Spiritualists' National Union. The SNU had 360 affiliated churches, and 18k members. Their American contemporary, the National Spiritualist Association of Churches, NSAC, was founded as the National Spiritualist Association in 1893, but we’ll catch up with the NSA shortly…

In the 1920’s the Catholic, Anglican, and other major religions admonished spiritualism at the Lembeth Conference. Despite this, by the 1930’s there were about 250,000 practicing spiritualists.

The Fraudulent Mediums Act of 1951 made it illegal for people to pretend to act as spiritualistic mediums for money or other reward. This act was repealed in April 2008, and fraudulent mediums are now covered by consumer protection legislation,...]]>
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The Fox Sisters 

 

Unfortunately, this isn’t about “foxy” sisters, or Megan Fox’s elusive, might-not-even-exist (don’t know, don’t care enough to Google) sister. The Fox sisters are one of the first people you’re likely to hear about if you look into Spiritualism, mediums, or psychics. However, until most of their contemporaries the Fox sisters didn’t shag people at seances. So, without any weird sex stuff to joke about, I’m well outside my usual wheelhouse.

And yes, female mysticism at the time was inexorably tied to the kind of freaky sex only available from the possessed. Because that’s how you know she’s a mystic! Contemporary spiritualists like Eva Carriere and Eusapia Palladino were famous for shagging clients and inspectors to maintain their business. Eusapia in particular was known for preemptively dispelling any notions that she might be a cheat by insisting each client inspect the seance with the old “nothing up my sleeves, nothing under the table, nothing in my cervix” routine.

Luckily our story begins in the early 19th century, so, much to Dustin’s chagrin, there will be plenty of yee-olde jokes. Because now it’s not just about anachronistic humor, now it’s a pod-in-joke too!

The sisters grew up in Hydesville, New York in 1848. Their farmhouse was allegedly haunted or some such. There were three sisters, Margaret, Kate, and Leah, who was the oldest. This matters because the younger two where the ones with special powers… and apples.

Hydesville was just outside modern Newark. At the time, Kate, 10, and Maggie, 14, were bored as fuck and very nearly spinsters having reached double digit ages without being married off, as was the yee-olde custom. It wasn’t until the end of March 1848 that the family finally accepted the haunted nature of their house, hearing sounds like furniture moving or knocking from empty rooms. On March 31st Kate challenged the invisible noisemaker to repeat her finger snaps, which it did, and then to count their ages, which it did. Shocked, the family, their neighbors, and the towns people became enamoured with communicating with the “entity” who would eventually be known as Mr. Splitfoot – surely the “cuddles” of the era.

Maggie Fox, in her later years noted:

“They [the neighbors] were convinced that some one had been murdered in the house. They asked the spirits through us about it and we would rap one for the spirit answer ‘yes,’ not three as we did afterwards. The murder they concluded must have been committed in the house. They went over the whole surrounding country trying to get the names of people who had formerly lived in the house. Finally they found a man by the name of Bell, and they said that this poor innocent man had committed a murder in the house and that the noises had come from the spirit of the murdered person. Poor Bell was shunned and looked upon by the whole community as a murderer.”

So, fuck him I guess.

And so they took the show on the road. Using the Pike-esque communication method of one knock for yes, and two for no, they would answer people’s questions about the great beyond. The eldest sister, smelling profit, took the younger two to Rochester to visit a radical Quaker group who, once convinced of their ethereal powers, would form the base of Spiritualism.

Soon the sisters gave the first public demonstration of spiritualism in 1849 at Corinthian Hall. It took very little time for word and fame to spread. By 1850 they were well known mediums holding seances for hundreds of people. They had rabid followers, jealous imitators, and religiously connected protectors. Political affiliations also became common, though were often strained, as both young women frequently drank wine!

Wealthy and married to rich men the women would spend many years as on-again, off-again, mediums. Their breaks delineated by marriage or cross-atlantic trips and their returns to spiritualism conveniently coincided with relocations and/or dead husbands.

Eventually they ran out of credulous inspectors and fell to the scrutiny of well known engineers and magicians at the time. Harry Houdini was especially frustrated with their bullshit as they shamelessly defrauded the poor and vulnerable.

It was discovered that the table the sisters held their seances at had a hollow top, under which was a wooden block that acted as a fulcrum for a metal rod. The rod had a spring at one end and a nearly invisible handle that protruded out near where the sisters sat. With it, they could arm the rod like a mouse trap, allowing it to be snapped up into the table by handle or by release with a bit of thread. Apparetly, yee-olde people were real dumb.

In 1888, Margaretta told her story of the origins of the mysterious “rappings” at their family home:

“When we went to bed at night we used to tie an apple to a string and move the string up and down, causing the apple to bump on the floor, or we would drop the apple on the floor, making a strange noise every time it would rebound. Mother listened to this for a time. She would not understand it and did not suspect us as being capable of a trick because we were so young.”

By the end of their lives they’d been exposed as frauds, run out of home and money, and died in alcoholic obscurity. Now they exist as footnotes in the history of charlatanism and spiritualism, their enterprise serving as an example of the cruel fraud mediums engage in by preying on the credulous and bereaved… or as the Catholic Herald says in it’s Heretic of the Week segment:

activities are condemned by the Church as a resurrection of necromancy; through the ages [the Church] has consistently taught that in conjuring the dead you are far more likely to make contact with demons disguising themselves as the dearly departed – and they mean none of us any good.

So yeah, demons… or, you know, an apple.

Show Story- The Flim Flam Femme Fatales 

This week I have decided to share with you all the story of someone that, perhaps surprisingly, I find very fascinating and in many ways inspiring. It would require too much unpacking to get into the why’s now, but I’m sure you may see them unfold as we go along. 

So again, welcome to a story of weird…history…eee…eee

The tradition of charlatans, chicanery and snake oiling (ewwww….) is often thought of as a man’s game. (I mean, the term wasn’t Flim Flam Female.) But, as unlike so many professions (except for the original, seems like we get to keep the banner for that one), the ladies could totally get in on this game throughout the ages. Sometimes whether they wanted to or not, as I think some of the Oracles at Delphi weren’t there of their own free will for the free tripping. 

Also, depending on the time period, these kinds of pursuits could dramatically backfire. As in, during several points throughout history it was found that ‘wise women’, healers, seers and anything other than a spirit-broken housewife were highly flammable and/or hangable.

So with that in mind, and the fact that I can never get enough of Aaron’s Russian accent, I would like to introduce the Ukranian-born Helena Petrova Blavatsky. Or perhaps you might recognize her by the more common nomenclature, Madame Blavatsky. 

The Cambridge-based Society for Psychical Research had this 1885 respect-tinged quote about the eerily Jake Gyllenhall-resembling Madame B: “For our part, we regard her as neither the mouthpiece of hidden seers, nor as a mere vulgar adventuress; we think that she has achieved a title to permanent remembrance as one of the most accomplished, ingenious, and interesting imposters in history.”

(Now, before I continue, a quick bit of housekeeping bc of my rant last week and my constant fear of plagiarism: I’d been aware of and interested in Mdm. B for quite some time, but didn’t know exactly how absolutely riveting her story was until I listened to the amazing 3 part podcast series on her by Our Fake History, which started in May 2018. Full disclosure, I haven’t listened since it originally ‘aired(?)’ but I will go ahead and tell you right now that it was more complete and historically-contextual than what I’m going to provide. Please do check it out, but for my sake wait until after I’m done with my take bc that’s just polite and you would never hear the reactions of the boys in Sebastian’s episodes.)

Now, back to our main character Mdm. B: Helena was born in 1831 to an apparently well-to-do aristocratic family (which immediately takes away some of the mythos, as this would have so much better if she had been born in a frozen Siberian alley). The aristocracy in her family apparently came from her mother’s side, and her mother was a published author (much more impressive in the early 1800’s than today).  Unfortunately, when Helena was 11 her mother died at 28 and I can’t understand if I think that’s too old or too young considering the time period. Anyway, her military-minded father decided to send her to live with her maternal grandparents at what was, with no irony, described as a ‘feudal estate’.

From this early age, and apparently encouraged by the old Russian, superstitious servants who were the stand ins for actual parents, Helena began to exhibit her ‘supernatural powers’. (Per newworldencylopedia.com these powers included:

physical and mental psychic feats which included levitation, clairvoyance, out-of-body projection, telepathy, and clairaudience. Another alleged skill of hers was materialization, that is, producing physical objects out of nothing.)

As an only child myself who had access to books (which at the time of Helena meant aristocracy) and often sickly, which gave me plenty of time for more…eclectic reading, I can totally understand why she turned out the way she did, seeing as how she was considered ‘traveled and largely self-educated’.  As a teenager she became interested in Western esotericism and, in my interpretation, realized the world was ripe for the plucking.

Leaping quickly through her early life (it’s difficult to pin down her movements in her formative years, but I’m voting that’s at least partially part of her plan), here are a few (supposedly true) highlights. Three weeks before her 17th birthday she was married to a 40yr old politician. That apparently went so well that after 3 months she stole a horse and fled back over the mountains to her grandparent’s home. (LOVE. IT.) Her grandfather, scandalized, immediately tried to send her back to her soldier-father, but after a taste of mountain-horse-stealing-freedom, Helena was not going to be stopped. (The more I say, the less I feel any of this is real, but bear with me.)  Instead of meeting her father at the appointed port, she dodged the continent completely, supposedly taking up with an English skipper on a ship bound for Constantinople. 

Thus began her years of dubiously reported  traveling. She claims to have spent the next 10 years on a pilgrimage towards enlightenment.  Among the areas she is said to have traveled: Egypt, France, Quebec (on the hunt for Native American magicians), England, South America, Germany, Mexico, India, Greece and most especially, Tibet. Whilst in Tibet she super-spiritualized herself an introduction with the spiritual adepts known as ‘The Masters of Ancient Wisdom’. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_of_the_Ancient_Wisdom (See the show notes for a link to more info on that because there is literally only so much time in life given to a single podcast host.) 

Now a lot comes from her time studying Eastern mysticism, but in the name of time and sanity, I’m going to jump ahead just a bit, for context. Blavatsky became known as the mother of the Western Theosophical movement. In the broadest of terms, Theosophy maintains that the mysteries of the universe can be granted to particularly attuned people, and by attuned this means ‘finger on the pulse of gullible bored rich people’. 

She supposedly demonstrated her powers in a variety of ways, for everyone from wealthy socialites to wary, superstitious peasants. One great anecdote that I heard on Our Fake History’s series involves her spending time finding lost jewelry and other valuables for her aristocratic friends. I won’t go into detail because he tells the story so well, but my money is on she had light fingers and dug up ‘so and so’s’ brooch from the backyard because she is the one who buried it there.

Madame B also seemed to be able to manifest a most pointless talent: making furniture impossible to move. From AP Sinnett’s book ‘Incidents in the Life of Madame Blavatsky’, “Through the exercise of her own will directing the magnetic currents so that the pressure on the table became such that no physical force could move it.” Now Mr. Sinnett was a full on fangirl for Helena, so his writings should be taken with a small boulder of salt, but she did visit him extensively and he spent a lot of time with her, so there is at least first hand accounting. Plus, his books are old enough they are all free online! (The one I mentioned also contains the story/legend of a character named Count Rottenstern von Rott Hahn who could summon a giant raven, so that’s amazing and a cartoon supervillain.)

If you’re a patron, you heard from Aaron about a particular spiritual craze which was sweeping countries on both sides of the Atlantic known as ‘rapping’. The old, Victorian white people kind, where ghosts thumped answers in a basic alphabet. The most famous and supposed creators of the movement were the Fox sisters, who in actuality turned out to have creaky toe joints. But of course, Mdm. B got in on this action as well, confounding police detectives and laypersons alike (criminal investigators were less…sophisticated, at this time), and causing quite a stir in Chittenden, VT, said to be the era’s “epidemic of raps.” In fact a news article at the time noted, “On her arrival, the spirits became more spectacular than ever before.” I bet the Fox gals were supes jealous.

Anyway, after returning from her supposed enlightening among the Tibetans and spiritual masters, she moved to the back to Russia in 1858, and by 1870 immigrated to the US. She lived in various parts of New England, but a huge moment in her life took place in Pennsylvania. It was here her health took a turn as she developed a serious infection in her leg. Now in West Philadelphia, sick and dazed, the fever took up most of her days. Fucked up in the head but remembering her rule, she channeled Atlanteans before it was cool. Per the University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology: “During a period of delirium she underwent a spiritual transformation, and was inspired to found the Theosophical Society.

**To deeply dive into the Theosophical society would require its own episode, but it’s a gathering of folks dabbling in the kind of woo you would expect and honestly not that interesting. **

Anyway, back to her new fever dream combined with what she learned in Tibet from the ‘Masters of Ancient Wisdom’, eventually in 1888 she published her and early theosophy’s magnum opus: the 6 volume The Secret Doctrine. Goddess bless the Penn Museum’s page because it breaks down the lesson perfectly:

“She wrote about seven root races of humanity. The first consisted of invisible astral jellyfish. The second, the Hyperborean,lived near the North Pole and were also bodiless. Next came a race of egg-laying lemurs, who had eyes in the back of their heads. They lived on the continent of Lemuria, located in the Pacific Ocean. The Lemurians were naughty. They discovered sex, which was their downfall. Their continent was destroyed, leaving only remnants that we know as Easter Island and Australia. The people of Atlantis were the fourth of Madame Helena’s races, and the fifth were ourselves. The remaining two were, and still are, to come. The guardians for an infant humanity, their home lies in outer space, specifically Venus.”

It’s on this fabulously nutty note that I’m bringing this week’s portion of this story to a close. Next week I’m going to pick up from here and discuss some of her more…controversial beliefs and the lasting historical repercussions of Madame B’s life, writings and, of course, Nazis.

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Faith in Humanity Restored

https://www.popsugar.com/family/bullied-boy-creates-university-of-tennessee-t-shirt-design-46592056

This week’s faith in humanity restored story isn’t about some big medical breakthrough or space discovery, but rather about how a group stepped up to help a bullied boy feel better about himself. 

A fourth grader in Altamonte Elementary School in Florida was really excited to show off the colors of his favorite team, The University of Tennessee, on College Colors Day. Unfortunately, he didn’t have a UT tee shirt so his teacher, Laura Snyder, suggested that he just wear an orange tee shirt that he already had. The boy though, being a huge fan, decided to create his own logo by drawing and decorating UT on a piece of paper and wearing it pinned to the orange tee shirt.

Well, as one could easily predict, he was bullied by a bunch of girls at a nearby lunch table, girls who weren’t even participating in the college colors day. Naturally, this hurt the boy’s feelings and he retreated to Snyder’s class room crying.

Snyder posted about the incident on social media and surprisingly, it went viral. 

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10114194128988573&id=5239432

She received an outpouring of support and requested that people assist her in finding an “extra special” UT tee shirt for the boy. The university sent a big box of UT swag his way, from which he chose a jersey and a hat, then helped pass out the rest to the other kids.

That alone is a great story of how social media can occasionally not be horrible, but it doesn’t end there. The University of Tennessee also went to the next level. They created an official tee shirt with the boy’s hand drawn design that he’d worn to school that day to sell, and are donating a portion of the proceeds to donate to STOMP Out Bullying (@STOMPOutBullyng)

https://twitter.com/UTVolShop?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1170065640146624513&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.popsugar.com%2Ffamily%2Fbullied-boy-creates-university-of-tennessee-t-shirt-design-46592056

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In This Week’s Show, episode 253, we summon minions of the occult with our esoteric knowledge of yee-olde brew pubbes.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while The Infinite Intelligence hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying its patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that Alexander the Great and Winnie the Pooh have more in common than you think. Their middle names 

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that adherents to spiritualism worship a single deity that they compare to the Christian god but it’s really nothing like that. Anyway, they refer to it as the Infinite Intelligence and never gave Douglas Adams the slightest bit of credit.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Necessary Evil from Manhattan Project Beer Company
Donated By: Aaron 


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BA Rating: 3.8
Style: Pilsner
ABV: 5.3% 



Aaron: 4
Jenn: 5
Shea: 6
Steve: 4


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Eternal Confidence

The series centers around 6 subjects answering specific questions about their faith. Some of the subjects are active and believing Christians and some of the subjects have deconverted from Christianity. 


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"Ye" was the plural second person pronoun for the subjective case. It was merged with "you" when English merged the subjective and objective cases.

The word "the" used to be spelled with the letter thorn which was pronounced as a th, but over time it began to resemble the letter "y". Most thorn was replaced with "th", but "ye" was kept much longer as an abbreviation of the word "the", but everyone knew to pronounce it as "the".

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The Fox Sisters 


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_sisters
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Spiritualism
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-fox-sisters-rochester-new-york
https://catholicherald.co.uk/magazine/heretics-of-the-week-the-fox-sisters/


 

Unfortunately, this isn't about "foxy" sisters, or Megan Fox's elusive, might-not-even-exist (don't know, don't care enough to Google) sister. The Fox sisters are one of the first people you're likely to hear about if you look into Spiritualism, mediums, or psychics. However, until most of their contemporaries the Fox sisters didn't shag people at seances. So, without any weird sex stuff to joke about, I'm well outside my usual wheelhouse.

And yes, female mysticism at the time was inexorably tied to the kind of freaky sex only available from the possessed. Because that's how you know she's a mystic! Contemporary spiritualists like Eva Carriere and Eusapia Palladino were famous for shagging clients and inspectors to main...]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 252 - The One Where We Discover The Gay Gene On MSG Junkie https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-252/ Fri, 06 Sep 2019 13:00:21 +0000 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/?p=47845 In This Week’s Show, episode 252, we eat our fabulous fill of umami-rich pod-shame. In This Week’s Show, episode 252, we eat our fabulous fill of umami-rich pod-shame.

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Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ponos (the Greek God of hard labor and toil) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

MSG is fine.

Actual lesson: Did you know that Heracles is the actual name of the Greek strongman known for the 12 labors. HERCULES is his Roman name.

Jim’s Good Gay News

Former NFL player Ryan Russell has come out as bisexual.  He’s trying to return to the league, and says he wants to do it while being open and honest.  Here’s hoping someone signs him again!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Lazy Horse Blood Orange Ale – from Brendan

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Episode 253

Necessary Evil from Manhattan Project Beer Company
Donated By: Aaron 

Beer Announcement #2 – Episode 254

Breck Lager – Breckenridge Brewery
From – RW

Jenn’s PSA- Don’t plagiarize, assholes

Today I’m going to share something that has really gotten me pissed off in the last few weeks, and it’s something that you, listeners of podcasts, should hear about.

Now I know in the last several months or so I’ve joked about some topics that I have crossed over with Citations Needed (and thanks all who let me know not to worry too much about it). But the truth is, I have been most concerned about any idea of copying them or their info. Full disclosure, I don’t listen to it myself but I take my research as seriously as I can when I’m trying to learn y’all facts about outlaw mummies and mysterious Russian everything.

Even from the beginning, we at W4W have worked very hard to announce our sources in the show, indicate where we are using direct quotes and link those used in the show notes. Well, most of us, probably not Shea. 

Now we’re a niche little show, and we’re definitely not changing the cultural landscape of podcasting or directly affecting the lives of other shows who may cover similar topics. But I’m talking about this today bc that actual thing is currently being unveiled, and has been happening for close to a year. 

If you’ve listened to our show for any length of time, you know that I’m a BIG fan of true crime, unsolved mysteries and the type of topic that gives Aaron nightmares. And I know some of you listeners enjoy that sort of stuff as well, but this covers more than just a narrow topic and just a few individuals or shows.

In case you haven’t heard, the true crime show Crime Junkie and its 2 female hosts have been revealed to be dirty cheaters. And this show had sat at #1 to #5 on the iTunes charts for the past several months. This show has MILLIONS of downloads, makes thousands on patreon, has hundreds of thousands of subscribers, etc. (I myself was one until a few weeks ago, and I’ve talked with a few of our listeners about the show before, so I know at least a few of y’all listen.)

A little bit of info on the actual scandal, but I won’t get too detailed. I WILL link to some articles and write-ups that do a much more thorough job and I FUCKING REFERENCE MY SOURCES:

The story itself gained public attention on August 11th when award winning journalist Cathy Frye made a post on Junkie’s Facebook merchandise page (eye roll) after being unable to get a response from the show in a more private form of communication. In late 2003 Ms. Frye had written an in-depth, excellent 4 part series called ‘Caught in the Web’ for the Arkansas Democrat Gazette on the muder of a young girl named Kacie Woody. Now the reason this caught Frye’s attention is that for one, the case had received very little coverage (it had since been solved, the murderer was dead, etc) and for another, she had had months of extraordinary access to the family of the murdered girl and detectives who had worked the case. Basically she was THE person who covered the case, covered it well and was the go-to person. (If you enjoy reading TC nonfiction, I’ve linked the article in show notes. Very worthwhile reading. https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/previousfeatures/caughtintheweb/)

Anyway, of course a podcast covering a case she was so personally involved with perked her radar and she listened. Only to hear that SWATHS of the show was taken almost verbatim from her story, information that only she had every reported on was discussed and basically more shit like that. There was never a single mention of the article, Frye or anything about resources other than a generic ‘this is a crime that not much has been reported on’.

Well, it pretty much blew up from there. A story on plagiarismtoday.com gives a good account of the timeline and has multiple links to the articles covering the scandal. https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2019/08/28/crime-junkie-from-top-podcast-to-plagiarism-pariah/?fbclid=IwAR0UJSbRBEUthbrrK54M7IOPo2K0B-_Z9FfKq-FuPI5w9tyoxm4KNH34zhQ

If you would prefer not to dive into hundreds of pages of investigation and online drama (but honestly, are you even living?) you can hear from three hosts who have been directly and very negatively affected by this. Esther Ludlow (who hosts Once Upon a Crime) has a more lighthearted side show called ‘Let’s Taco About True Crime’ and she has Steven Pacheco of ‘Trace Evidence’ and Robin Warder of ‘The  Trail Went Cold’ and they detail exactly what was plagiarized and how this has affected them.

https://tacobouttruecrime.libsyn.com/bonus-episode-lets-taco-bout-the-crime-junkie-plagiarism-scandal

Beer Announcement #3 – Episode 255

Texas Tea from Bishop Cider Co.

Show Story

New Study Disputes ‘Gay Gene,’ But Doesn’t Separate Sex From Identity (https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2019/8/29/new-study-disputes-gay-gene-doesnt-separate-sex-identity)

  • The largest-ever study of genes and human sexuality
    • published in peer-reviewed journal Science
    •  Did NOT find one single “gay gene”
    •  Can’t really tell us if it’s a “choice” or why men and women are so different
  • Definitive answer to another question: Does having sex one time with somebody of the same sex mean you’re queer?
    •  The answer is no 
    • First evidence that there are fundamental differences between individuals with different levels of same-sex experience
    •  Suggests that openness to experience and adventurous behavior are key elements to the complexity of human sexuality
  • The science-y bits
    • Carried out by 21 authors at as many different institutions
    • Analyzed nearly half a million men and women aged 40-69 in the UK
    • Detailed sexuality information was not collected
      • the participants were asked the question “Have you ever had sexual intercourse (vaginal, oral or anal) with someone of the same sex?” 
      • About 3 percent answered yes, and were classified as “non-heterosexual”
      • This was the group used for gene hunting
      • This binary does NOT accurately gauge sexual orientation
  • Remarkably strong dependence on the age of the participants
    • 40-year-olds more than 3X as likely to be classified as non-heterosexual as those who are 69
    • “This sort of rapid temporal change is characteristic of a trait mediated by social factors, not genes”
  • More than half of the “non-heterosexuals” actually had sex with the opposite sex “mostly or at least half the time”
    • Translation: they were mostly straight or bisexual, not gay or lesbian (as those terms are commonly understood)
  • Got more interesting when scientists analyzed genetic correlations of “non-heterosexuality” to other behavioral and psychological traits
    • Two were especially notable: risk behavior and openness to experience
    • Does not fit with the “typical” personality profiles of either gay men or lesbians, which have been studied extensively
    • What you’d expect for individuals willing to do something a bit out of the usual for a change, even if it didn’t match their underlying desires or attraction
    • Strong correlation to cannabis use
      • “Yes, I did, but I was soooo high.”
  • The proof of a difference between a one-time same-sex experience and enduring sexual orientation 
    • Came from examining the genetic relationships between non-heterosexuality and percentage of same-sex partners 
      • For participants for whom both measures were available
    • The correlation was zero!
      • Means that whatever genes were found for “non-heterosexuality” have nothing to do with the continuum of behavior from “mostly straight” to “completely queer”
  • Scientists also searched through 600,000 DNA markers in the sample (aka: molecular fishing expedition) 
    • Thousands of candidate genes were found
      • Only 5 were deemed statistically significant
      • Some are located in potentially interesting genes (ex: sex hormones and olfaction)
      • But only accounted for a few percent of total variation and could not predict a person’s orientation with any accuracy
  • This article was written by Dean Hamer (Scientist Emeritus at the National Institutes of Health)
    • In 1993 his lab discovered Xq28, the sex chromosome locus linked to male homosexuality – has been independently confirmed
      • Hamer’s work used genetically-loaded families with two gay beerbrothers, as compared to random individuals
      • Focused on predominantly or exclusively gay men, as compared to a population mostly heterosexual or bisexual
      • Took into account epigenetic influences
    • No correlation was found with Xq28
      • If Xq28 had been picked up in the new scan, it could be interpreted as meaning that they discovered a locus for risk taking, not homosexuality
  • Despite limitations, it’s good that the new study was conducted
    • Strong empirical evidence that knowing the origins of sexual orientation leads to increased acceptance
    • In the 26 years since Hamer’s first genetics study appeared in Science, there have been fewer than half a dozen credible research projects on this topic
  • According to Hamer the entire scientific community have always understood that the genetic architecture of human sexuality is complex
    • No single “gay gene” 
    • A straw man invented by antigay critics
    •  Easy to confuse “no single gay gene” with “no genetic influence” 
    • Will be misinterpreted as “it’s a choice” 
  • New study that may make the whole concept of “gay genes” obsolete
    • Genetic correlation between “non-heterosexuality” and total number of sexual partners
    • Stereotype that GLBTQ people are promiscuous
      • Genetic correlation means that straight people who share our genes — and there are a lot of them — also have more sexual partners
      • That would solve the conundrum of how “gay genes” survive evolution. 
      • It’s because they are really “hyper-heterosexuality genes” — and probably essential for the survival of the human race.

The Flavor Enhancer!

#MSG

Let’s talk about umami. Which literally means “essence of deliciousness” in Japanese.

So first of all, what do you know about MSG?

Probably that it’s used in Chinese food. Maybe that it “makes things taste better.” And you’ve probably heard that it’s not good for you.

But what is MSG?

MSG, or Monosodium glutamate, also known as sodium glutamate, is the sodium salt of glutamic acid, one of the most abundant naturally occurring non-essential amino acids

It’s often used as a “flavor enhancer” in super-savory foods. Notably asian food. Though, as we will get into later, it’s found in pretty much everything you’ve ever eaten. MSG or monosodium glutamate is a seasoning that combines sodium with glutamate, an amino acid that is naturally present in certain foods.

Glutamic acid was first discovered by a German chemist in 1866. Karl Heinrich Tutthausen by treating wheat gluten with sulfuric acid. Hence the name. It should be noted thought that Glutamic acid and gluten are not at all the same thing.

It was a Japanese biochemist Kikunae Ikeda who first identified MSG and managed to isolate it for use in 1908. He was trying to identify and duplicate the ultra-savory flavor of kombu, a seaweed that is often used as the base of Japanese soups.

Kombu-dashi is a stock of konbu, a northern Japanese seaweed and kotsobushi, or dried fermented fish flakes. The combination is used in pretty much all asian soups, particularly ramen

Food rich in MSG were part of the Japanese lifestyle for… basically ever. It is thought to have been brought into Chinese food during Japan’s occupation of Taiwan during the early 20th century. From there would have come to America with Chinese immigrants. Which is where the trouble starts…

Some people have probably heard of Chinese Food Syndrome. Which, for the record, isn’t a syndrome and frankly, isn’t fucking real!

The issue began in 1968 when a Chinese-American doctor named Ho Man Kwok wrote a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine asking if anyone had time or resources to investigate why, after eating at a Chinese food place, he often felt ill with symptoms including headaches. No one really did.

But that was all it took. Despite his supposition that it could be the rice wine used, excess salt, or MSG, the MSG was what stuck. Lately because of chemophobia and racism.

Putting this into context. At the turn of the 20th century science was going to save us all. Then we dropped the bomb on Japan. Then we had thalidomide. A number of other food issues ending in the beginning of the GMO scare.

We also had generations of entrenched racism. The Chinese will cook rats and cat. They’re food will make you sick

Never mind that you just ate too fucking much.

Of course none of that is true. Plenty of people around the world I’d imagine would eat a cat or rat but none would claim it as their cultures food of choice. In fact, as an aside, the “Chinese people eat cats” business came from early San Fran, when having a bout of racism, a woman claimed that she could smell and hear her Asian neighbors cooking and eating cats. She called the police who, upon interviewing the family, found them to be vegetarians. so… whomp whomp.

So what’s the problem?

Well, there isn’t one.

Most Chinese food syndrome suffers either ate too much or have incredibly powerful psychosomatic responses.

In a study by Tarasoff and Kelly (1993), 71 fasting participants were given 5 g of MSG and then a standard breakfast. One reaction (to the placebo, in a self-identified MSG-sensitive individual) occurred.

MSG has been studied thoroughly and no causal link has been found to any ill health.

In fact, more than a few times the opposite has been found. MSG can reduce overall sodium content in a recipe by 30-40% by reducing the need for salt. In fact, the Institute of Medicine has referenced the potential of MSG as a tool to reduce sodium in foods.

For example, if your recipe for stew calls for 3 tablespoons of salt, use 2tbps of salt and 1tbps of MSG. Your food will taste a ton better and you’ll be using about 25% less sodium.

Food Standards Australia New Zealand (FSANZ) MSG technical report concludes, “There is no convincing evidence that MSG is a significant factor in causing systemic reactions resulting in severe illness or mortality. The studies conducted to date on Chinese restaurant syndrome (CRS) have largely failed to demonstrate a causal association with MSG. Symptoms resembling those of CRS may be provoked in a clinical setting in small numbers of individuals by the administration of large doses of MSG without food. However, such effects are neither persistent nor serious and are likely to be attenuated when MSG is consumed with food. In terms of more serious adverse effects such as the triggering of bronchospasm in asthmatic individuals, the evidence does not indicate that MSG is a significant trigger factor.”  “Data from the United Kingdom indicates an average intake of 590 mg/day, with extreme users (97.5th percentile consumers) consuming 2330 mg/day” (Rhodes et al. 1991)

How much MSG would hurt you? Well, if you take it intravenously not much. If you take it like a food product, a lot. The LD50 – that is, how much it would take to kill half of the lab animals in the test – is about 15g per kilo of body weight. Also, that’s a fucking ton. The average 1 to 3 pounds of food you’ll eat a buffet might contain, maybe, 300 milligrams. By comparison, 3g per kilo of body weight of salt will kill you

Remember how I promised to get back to where MSG is from? Well, it’s not just Japan’s seafloor. Here the white crystals that most people worry about having put in their food largely come from Ac’cent In the USA, or AJI-No-Moto and can be found as “accent” seasoning in most supermarkets. Raw MSG is also available.

MSG is also found most notably in tomatoes. So your Italian pasta sauce – yep, MSG. It’s in Soy sauce of course. Most dried mushrooms are rich in MSG. One of the most concentrated naturally occurring sources of MSG, about 0.02%, is parmesan cheese. Green tea has MSG in it. Pretty much all cured meats are rich in MSG. Grape juice, has MSG in it. Peas, potatoes, scallops, corn, and some wheat products all contain MSG.

Food critic Jeffrey Steingarten argued that fear of MSG should be seen as a Western-centric mindset, lacking awareness of its common use in Far Eastern cooking without apparent problems: “If MSG is a problem, why doesn’t everyone in China have a headache?”

Beer Announcement #4 – Episode 256

Breck IPA – Breckenridge Brewery
From RW

Reminder, Next Week’s beer is Necessary Evil from Manhattan Project Beer Company

Happy Ending

Lil Nas X Makes Gay History With CMA Nomination (https://www.advocate.com/music/2019/8/28/lil-nas-x-makes-gay-history-cma-nomination)

The Country Music Awards nominated the track from Lil Nas X featuring Billy Ray Cyrus in the category of Musical Event of the Year

  • Classified as country rap, or country trap
    • Cowboy-booted off the BillboardCountry charts earlier this year
    •  The magazine decided it did not fit the genre
    • Sparked a debate as to what defines country music in modern times
    • Nomination sends an inclusive signal to the rest of the industry
  • Lil Nas X is now the first out gay man to be nominated at the CMAs
    • 20 years old, came out in June during the final weekend of Pride month
    •  A few notable comings-out in country music, but the genre is still notoriously conservative
      • Chely Wright is a prominent example – 2010 
      •  Ty Herndon and Billy Gilman in 2014
      •  Brandi Carlile, Brandy Clark
      •  Shane McAnally (song writer, on NBC’s “Songland”)
      •  Cody Alan (CMT radio/TV host)
      •  Steve Grand
  • Also marked another milestone in July, when “Old Town Road” became the longest-running number 1 song in Billboard’s history

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In This Week’s Show, episode 252, we eat our fabulous fill of umami-rich pod-shame.
If you enjoyed today's free, patreon cut of the show, consider subscribing at http://patreon.com/w4w!

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ponos (the Greek God of hard labor and toil) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

MSG is fine.

Actual lesson: Did you know that Heracles is the actual name of the Greek strongman known for the 12 labors. HERCULES is his Roman name.

Jim’s Good Gay News

Former NFL player Ryan Russell has come out as bisexual.  He’s trying to return to the league, and says he wants to do it while being open and honest.  Here’s hoping someone signs him again!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Lazy Horse Blood Orange Ale - from Brendan


Untapped Beer: https://untappd.com/b/lazy-horse-brewing-blood-orange/1961686/photos
Untapped Rating:  3.4 out of 5
Style: Pale Ale
ABV: 5%



Aaron: 5
Jenn: 5
Jim: on his own (and his homemade rhubarb wine and strawberry wines are pretty tasty…and pretty potent)


This Week’s Show

Roundtable

Bear Bottom Bar & Grill - https://bearbottom307.com

Beer donations can be sent to:
2768 Wyoming Hwy 130
Centennial, Wyoming
Attn: Mr. Big Gay Jim

Episode 253

Necessary Evil from Manhattan Project Beer Company
Donated By: Aaron 


BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/47850/386663/
BA Rating: 3.8
Style: Pilsner
ABV: 5.3%


Beer Announcement #2 - Episode 254

Breck Lager - Breckenridge Brewery
From - RW


BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2137/182686/ 
BA Rating: 3.52
Style: Lager
ABV: 4.5%


Jenn’s PSA- Don’t plagiarize, assholes

Today I’m going to share something that has really gotten me pissed off in the last few weeks, and it’s something that you, listeners of podcasts, should hear about.

Now I know in the last several months or so I’ve joked about some topics that I have crossed over with Citations Needed (and thanks all who let me know not to worry too much about it). But the truth is, I have been most concerned about any idea of copying them or their info. Full disclosure, I don’t listen to it myself but I take my research as seriously as I can when I’m trying to learn y’all facts about outlaw mummies and mysterious Russian everything.

Even from the beginning, we at W4W have worked very hard to announce our sources in the show, indicate where we are using direct quotes and link those used in the show notes. Well, most of us, probably not Shea. 

Now we’re a niche little show, and we’re definitely not changing the cultural landscape of podcasting or directly affecting the lives of other shows who may cover similar topics. But I’m talking about this today bc that actual thing is currently being unveiled, and has been happening for close to a year. 

If you’ve listened to our show for any length of time, you know that I’m a BIG fan of true crime, unsolved mysteries and the type of topic that gives Aaron nightmares. And I know some of you listeners enjoy that sort of stuff as well, but this covers more than just a narrow topic and just a few individuals or shows.

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Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Discover The Gay Gene On MSG Junkie yes 2:00:07
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 251 - The One Where We Visit Mattoon's Bimillennial Dance-Off! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-251/ Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:00:07 +0000 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/?p=47815 In This Week’s Show, episode 251, we get hysterically involved in French DDR until we sashay away to the world’s best food truck for a beer. In This Week’s Show, episode 251, we get hysterically involved in French DDR until we sashay away to the world’s best food truck for a beer.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Nataraja (the personification of Shiva who is considered the ‘lord of the dance’) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that when smart kids share random facts adults tell them how smart they are. But when adults share random facts people tell them they are weird and annoying…

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that in his guise as Nataraja, Shiva is both creating and destroying the world, all at once, crushing a demon underneath his feet as he does so.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Breaking Bud by Knee Deep Brewing Company
Donated By: Aaron


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/23200/159885/
* BA Rating: 4.15
* Style: IPA
* ABV: 7%
* Aaron: 5
* Jenn: 4
* Steve: 4


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patrons


* Lily
* Melanie


The Four Horsepeople of the funny bone.

“Waiting 4 Wrath is a great show with great hosts. Each brings something to the table that I can relate to. Jen brings the level headed reason. Aaron brings the silly. Steve brings the curmudgeon (You kids get off my lawn!) But it is my yeti brethren Shea that brings the lesson. Every week I learn along with him and this week I learned that when you fish from the top of a building you can’t bait your hook there because everyone knows you can’t Fit A Lure On The Roof.”

Nwolfe35 via Apple Podcasts

Voicemail From Mr. Bible Pants

Message from Sir Hairy Palms the Blind

Fun story about fixing lefties.

In grade 2 ( or 3) , so like 1976 or so, I had a public school teacher who refused to allow me to learn how to print because I'm left handed. If I tried she'd hit my hand with a yardstick and make me sit away from my desk to make sure I didn't sneak practice being a devil spawn with delusions of literacy.

Same teacher also told me that "God didn't make you a dirty savage (I'm 1/2 native canadian) The Devil did that. But god expects you to overcome it".

She had me so convinced I was broken and evil my family didn't find out about the writing prohibition until my father asked the school about moving me into a special ed class and the real story came out about why I was near illiterate compared to my classmates. Not sure if Mrs Grizdale got fired but I never saw her again.

Yeah. Religion is fun. Been an atheist pretty much ever since, so I should thank the evil bitch for that.

Longtime listener Ed sent us a pic of the delicious chocolate Shake Chocolate Porter beer from a few weeks ago. He’s tried his best to like beer, but not even this one worked. :( He did say he still liked us so let’s call it a win!

Patreon Story

Learn more about The Mad Gasser of Mattoon right now on http://patreon.com/w4w!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Gasser_of_Mattoon#References

Our story begins in the sleepy, but not as sleepy as it will be, town of Mattoon, Illinois. Mattoon is a small town of about 18,000 people, nestled in the treeline of Coles County between a prairie and another prairie.

Fun fact about Mattoon, the city website appears to be the last remaining Geocities page on the internet.

In 1944 Urban Raef was awakened in the wee hours by a strange smell. Nauseated and weak,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Visit Mattoon's Bimillennial Dance-Off! yes 1:06:50
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 250 - The One Where We Learned About Books, Bleach, & Bidets https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-250/ Fri, 23 Aug 2019 13:00:37 +0000 https://waiting4wrath.com/?p=47805 In This Week’s Show, episode 250, we’ll start in a flourishing age of patronage and reason, then end in a flushing of American populist rationalization. In This Week’s Show, episode 250, we’ll start in a flourishing age of patronage and reason, then end in a flushing of American populist rationalization.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while St. Timothy (the patron saint of stomach ailments) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Eat more fiber...

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that the collective genome of all the bacteria living in your gut is at least 150 times larger than your own genome?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Mural Agua Fresca by New Belgium collab with Cerveceria Primus, Mexico City

BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/192/335648/


* BA Rating: 3.52/5
* Style:  Fruit and Field Beer
* ABV: 4%
* Aaron: 5
* Jenn: 5
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Big News!

We have an address to send us beer again! Beer donations can be sent attn: Big Gay Jim to the Bear Bottom Bar & Grill. Check out the show notes and/or https://BearBottom307.com for an address.

You should really just check out https://bearbottom307.com anyway.

Big thanks to Big Gay Jim and Hubby for letting us use their location for beer donations, which, we’re actually kind of in need of. The last of the donations have gone pretty quickly so if you were thinking of supporting the show and patreon.com/w4w sounds too much like sending us money, you can send us beer instead!

Dum Dum Followup again: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/08/14/flat-earthers-homemade-rocket-grounded-due-to-bad-craigslist-water-heater/

Headlines Hotshots

Patreon Publishing

No, it’s not actually about Patreon… thank the powers…


* https://anticastamperiaarmena.com
* http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20190708-the-city-that-launched-the-publishing-industry


Since we're talking about education today - or lack thereof - I thought it might be interesting to dive into some of the earliest ways information of stored. I'm not going to go so far as cave paintings but instead will focus on the earliest printed books.

Germany is often considered the birthplace of publishing because of Johannes Gutenberg's invention of the movable type printing press in the mid-15th century - not to be confused with Wordpress's homage-named movable block editor which is decidedly less revolutionary. But we're going to gloss over Johannes as well and move straight to Venetian bookbinders.

The modern Antica Stamperia Amena is dedicated to the preservation of artisan bookmaking. Paolo Olbi is a craftsman there.

Located in Dorsoduro neighborhood of Venice in an 18th-century building built for the Zenobio family the Antica is now owned and operated by the Armenian Mekhitarist (mecha-tourist) Fathers of Venice (an Armenian Catholic congregation).

“Since typographic art arrived in Venice in 1469, [the printing industry] underwent an extraordinarily large development because of the features of the lagoon city,” explained Federica Benedetti, a librarian at the Marciana National Library of Venice, one of Italy’s oldest surviving public libraries. “[Venice was] the main naval force in the Mediterranean Sea – it was in the centre of a thick net of commercial relations with the greatest European and non-European powers. Merchants and artisans [brought over] technological innovations and capital.”

Thanks to the cities dominance in trade Venice quickly became a hub of publishing and print trade.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Learned About Books, Bleach, & Bidets yes 58:25
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 249 - The One Where We Get Off With A Little Help From Our Friends https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-249/ Fri, 16 Aug 2019 13:00:10 +0000 https://waiting4wrath.com/?p=47781 In This Week’s Show, episode 249, we learn that when it comes to yee-olde medicine, pigeons, penis, and pigeon-penis, are all you need. In This Week’s Show, episode 249, we learn that when it comes to yee-olde medicine, pigeons, penis, and pigeon-penis, are all you need.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Priapus (the Greek god of fruit gardens and male genitalia) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that you can lead your horse to water. You can lead your horse behind. Because if your horse don't dance and if he don't dance then he ain't no horse of mine.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

I learned a lot of weird historical sex stuff researching this show. In fact, in 2008, while excavating the city of Amathus, on the south coast of Cyprus, archaeologists found a curse which went straight to the point: “May your penis hurt when you make love.”

Also I’m going to make Aaron embed a picture of Priapus for you all to see. Sorry not sorry.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Shake Chocolate Porter from Boulder Brewing
Donated By: RW


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/130/101458/
* BA Rating: 4.8
* Style:  American Porter
* ABV: 5.9%
* Aaron: 10
* Jenn: 9
* Shea: 10
* Steve: 9


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Jenn - Rosalie taught the guys they can’t say cactus.

Steve - Aaron and I guested on Atheist Nomads this week where we had a lot of fun and had a really good conversation that, unsurprisingly, meandered a bit.

Look for Episode 316 of Atheist Nomads at https://www.atheistnomads. .follow the link in the show notes.

Patron Story

The Ivory Tower

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/offbeat/victorian-era-sex-toy-returned-to-ireland-after-crowdfunding-bid-1.3971258?mode=amp

This story comes from a land where it is illegal to blaspheme the church, not the middle East. The land of leprechauns and fairies and this one time I went there.

Back in 2017 an international collector bought a rare 19th century Irish Victorian ivory dildo… yep dildo. This really ignited Shawna Scott's passion for Irish sexual history.

“It made my heart sink when it was sold. It just seemed like such an important part of Irish sexual history,” said Ms Scott.

Ms Scott is a sex positive busisness person who owns and runs "Ireland's best sex shop" online, Sex Siopa (see-ah-pee) https://sexsiopa.ie/. Looking at the website it's obvious that she fights to break taboos and help her clients enjoy themselves in healthy fun ways. Ms. Scott theorizes that "Sometimes with Irish history, unless something is tied to the famine or 1916 it gets a little forgotten or re-prioritised.”



Scott kept on the trail of the ivory dildo and was surprised to hear that it back up for auction and she had a chance to get her hands on it. Unfortunately it was once again purchased buy a private collector and Scott was crestfallen. The dildo, which is at least 130 years old, and is believed to have been owned by a wealthy Anglo-Irish household, received more than 100 bids from nearly 40 different countries when it was auctioned in April 2017.

Last weekend, a customer emailed Ms Scott that the same item was up for auction again. This caused her to have what she calls an “Indiana Jones moment. I said to myself, that belongs in a museum.”

My big question now is why the dildo keeps getting resold? It seems like a game, these wealthy buyers just sitting on their ivory towers. Or maybe it is haunted? Too big? Smells funny?

Any way,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Get Off With A Little Help From Our Friends yes 1:04:47
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 248 - The One Where We Laugh In The Face Our Drunken Mortality! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-248/ Fri, 09 Aug 2019 13:00:23 +0000 https://waiting4wrath.com/?p=47772 In This Week’s Show, episode 248, I’m hungover, Jenn’s got the Shlits, and Steve’s wife still hasn’t found him. Shea’s birthday parties are wild affairs… In This Week’s Show, episode 248, I’m hungover, Jenn’s got the Shlits, and Steve’s wife still hasn’t found him. Shea’s birthday parties are wild affairs…
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Shea’s Birthday hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if you glue a dead wasp to the back of your hand you can smack anyone as hard as possible and act like you saved them.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Died of dysentery, fording a river?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Dinosaur Death IPA from Big Lake Brewing

Donated By: Steve E


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/33297/356354/
* BA Rating: 3.8
* Style: New England IPA
* ABV: 5.8%
* Aaron:
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patron - Jeff Goldblum? Yes.

Crazy Deaths Through History

While researching people's proof of the afterlife and delving into full on craziness (did you know Goop believes in psy powers) I realized I needed more time to pull all the parts together so prepare yourselves for that in the future. As a happy kismet I ran into quite a few people dying in incredibly strange and bizarre ways. So today I'm going to bring you through history and teach you of some strange, weird as shit deaths.

We're gonna travel to ancient Greece to learn about the father of tragedy, Aeschylus. Way back, like 500 years before Jesus mucked around, Aeschylus was an incredibly popular playwright known for his dialog and conflict between actors. During his life it was prophesied that he would be killed by a falling object and many believe that because of that, Aeschylus made it a habit to stay out of doors. During a trip to Sicily in 458 BC he was struck on the head by a tortoise dropped by an eagle which had mistaken his bald head for a rock, as written by Valerius Maximus, a collector of historical information. Aeschylus's work was so respected by the Athenians that after his death, his were the only tragedies allowed to be restaged in subsequent competitions.

You have probably heard of Draconian law, excessively harsh and severe punishments, but you may not know that they were originally laws created in Greece as the first constitution of Athens back around 620 BC. These laws were written by… you guessed it, Draco. Draco was the first recorded legislator of Athens in Ancient Greece. While visiting an Aeginetan theatre supporters of his, in a traditional ancient Greek show of approval,"threw so many hats and shirts and cloaks on his head that he suffocated, and was buried in that same theatre". The truth about his death is still unclear, but I'd like to believe it's true.

Empedocles, another Greek philosopher, also a statesman, poet, religious teacher, and physiologist. According to legend, Empedocles was a self-styled god he believed in the transmigration of souls, he declared that those who have sinned must wander for 30,000 seasons through many mortal bodies and be tossed from one of the four elements to another. Escape from such punishment requires purification, particularly abstention from the flesh of animals, whose souls may once have inhabited human bodies. To show his divinity and divine power he climbed up to the top of Mount Etna, an active volcano, and threw himself in. Miraculously living and being vwooped up to his heavenly throne… oh wait, no, he died. He was greatly morned, Aristotle reputedly hailed him as the inventor of rhetoric, and Galen regarded him as the founder of Italian medicine. Lucretius admired his hexametric poetry.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Laugh In The Face Our Drunken Mortality yes 1:02:09
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 247 - The One Where We Spread our DNA All Over Utah https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-247/ Fri, 02 Aug 2019 13:00:40 +0000 https://waiting4wrath.com/?p=47753 In This Week’s Show, episode 247, we use science to study our ancestors on the internet, in Utah, and in Nazi Germany… Good news, the last ones are dead. In This Week’s Show, episode 247, we use science to study our ancestors on the internet, in Utah, and in Nazi Germany… Good news, the last ones are dead.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Eru Ilúvatar hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if you boil a funny bone it becomes a laughing stock… I find that humerus.



Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that San Diego Zoo’s lovely Victoria, a southern white rhino, gave birth this past Sunday to a handsome little boy? (Well, he weighed about 125lbs so I guess ‘little’ is subjective.) He is the 186th rhino born at the Safari Park and the first southern white rhino born in North America from artificial insemination. Congrats, Victoria, and you don’t need no man!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Buffalo Gold Golden Ale from Boulder Beer - from RW


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/130/5088/
* BA Rating: 4.8/5
* Style: American Blonde
* ABV: 4.8%
* Aaron: 9
* Jenn: 6
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 9


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

VM from Carl

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zgz2xBrvVQ

This Week’s Stories

Archiving Nazi DNA.

Available now at http://patreon.com/w4w!


* https://allthatsinteresting.com/rudolf-hess-doppelganger-theory


I’m going to go ahead and break rule #1 and start this story off with a dash of Nazi. Specifically, a 70-year-old conspiracy theory.

Rudolf Hess, for those who don’t know - not you Jenn or Steve - was a leading Nazi, Deputy Fuhrer, and an asshole. He was captured by the Allies in May of 1941 when his Messerschmitt Bf 110 crashed in Scotland en route to broker an unauthorized peace deal. The theory holds that sometime between his capture and the Nuremberg trials, Rudolf Hess was replaced by a doppelganger who stood trial for him and subsequently served his sentence.

W. Hugh Thomas, a doctor at Spandau, questioned if prisoner Spandau 7 was Hess as 7 refused to see his family and exhibited signs of amnesia. Subsequently the British government authorized investigation. Unfortunately, they had no means of truly verifying his identity so the conspiracy persisted. Spandau 7 was hung in 1987 at the age of 90.

It wasn’t until 8 years ago that we knew for sure. It turns out a pathologist at Spandau hermetically sealed a 1982 blood sample from Spandau 7. Considered unremarkable the sample was used as a teaching prop at Walter Reed Medical.

A US military doctor heard of the sample in passing and later, upon hearing of the conspiracy, put two and two together. Austrian molecular biologist, Jan Cemper-Kiesslich, extracted DNA from the sample and set out to find a living relative. The closest of whom had just died. “The family is very private,” said McCall. “The name is also rather common in Germany, so finding them was difficult.” Nonetheless, the team persisted and were able to track down a living male relative with whom they could compare blood samples and DNA.

The results presented an unwavering conclusion: there was a 99.9 percent likelihood that the Spandau 7’s blood sample and the sample of the living Hess relative were close biological matches.

And so, the mystery is closed. For their part the Hess family is understandably adamant in denying any further commentary or reaction to the results.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Spread our DNA All Over Utah yes 1:02:34
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 246 - The One Where We Run Down The Highwayman... with Jenn and Juice! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-246/ Fri, 26 Jul 2019 13:00:02 +0000 https://waiting4wrath.com/?p=47647 In This Week’s Show, episode 246, we juice the Angel of Celery to stave off viral spillover with whatever horrible yeti disease kept Shea from being here today. In This Week’s Show, episode 246, we juice the Angel of Celery to stave off viral spillover with whatever horrible yeti disease kept Shea from being here today.
I think it’s called Familious klingienous...

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ko’Lok (the cannibal winged giant of the Miwok people, not on Endor) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

MIA

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know the electric chair was invented by a dentist (Alfred Southwick)? It’s actually only an electric chair bc that was what he was used to working with.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Highwayman - Roadhouse Brewing Co


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/30261/397884/
* BA Rating: 4.47/5
* Style: Crushable Pilsner
* ABV: 4%
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 7
* Steve: 9


This Week’s Show

Thanks to listener Steve W. for the very good point as to why doctors didn’t use axes to chop off limbs for amputations. In episode 244 we discussed Dr. Lister and how he made surgery not an auto-death sentence and Aaron was curious as to why not use an axe. Turns out, that tends to shatter bones which will definitely help a surgery be less successful.

This Week’s Story

Jenn's Story is available now at http://patreon.com/w4w for a buck! Head over to get a special patron only story every week, as well as 4 More Beers, our sister show (that one's free and we'll totally be making one soon!) Patrons this week will also get an extended (like 10+ min) of my medical story!

Fake Reality TV & Unhealthy Medicine


* https://www.medpagetoday.com/publichealthpolicy/ethics/76358
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burzynski_Clinic
* https://www.khou.com/article/entertainment/television/programs/great-day-houston/an-upcoming-reality-series-will-highlight-cancer-patients-recovery-stories/285-602900318


Another entry into the annals of quack doctors making lots of money off of desperate people, today I’m talking about the Burzynski Clinic. Located in Houston, TX, the clinic was founded by chubby, weird, dangerous Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski.

The clinic was founded in 1976 and has been the subject of much (entirely warranted) controversy since the beginning. But I’ll get into the details during and after we hear from a commercial advertising the purported upcoming docu-series ‘My Cancer Free Life’


* https://www.khou.com/article/entertainment/television/programs/great-day-houston/an-upcoming-reality-series-will-highlight-cancer-patients-recovery-stories/285-602900318


I have a few tidbits to point out during the segment we watch:

At 00:30 - Antineoplastons: what are they? How do they work? Turns out it’s/they’re a term coined by Burzynski himself and really don’t seem to do anything at all. It’s sort of a ‘catch all’ for (per his Wiki article) “a group of urine-derived peptides, peptide derivatives, and mixtures that Burzynski named to use in his "cancer treatment". There is no accepted scientific evidence of benefit from antineoplaston combinations for various diseases.” Yes, his entire approach to immunotherapy cancer treatment involves urine particulates.

Good


* https://integrityfuneral.com/book-of-memories/3677519/kruse-douglas/view-condolences.php


Medical Medium


* https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/kzd7km/benefits-of-celery-juice
* https://www.inverse.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Run Down The Highwayman... with Jenn and Juice! yes 1:09:30
Waiting 4 Wrath -Episode 145 - The One Where We Find Out We're Full Of Stars https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-245/ Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:00:18 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=47449 In This Week’s Show, episode 245, it’s Steve, Shea and I because Jenn went Bang, Zoom, right to the moon! In This Week’s Show, episode 245, it’s Steve, Shea and I because Jenn went Bang, Zoom, right to the moon! Episode 145 - The One Where We Find Out We're Full Of Stars - Standard



In This Week’s Show, episode 245, it’s Steve, Shea and I because Jenn went Bang, Zoom, right to the moon!



Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Mars (Patrons will get that), Roman God of War,  hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!



Shea’s Life Lesson



I'm worried that people are forgetting what prime day is really about, and who died to make it possible. So let's have a moment of silence for the great Optimus.



Jenn’s Actual Lesson



It wasn't intense enough for Jenn in Laramie so she went camping to be “in tents.”



But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!



This Week’s Beer



Fire Ant Funeral | Texas Ale Project Dallas, TX




* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/37947/149299/
* BA Rating: 3.69/5
* Style: American Amber / Red Ale
* ABV: 6%
* Aaron: 6
* Shea: 6
* Steve: 6
* This Week’s Show




Round Table Discussion



New patron The Custodial Humanist.I love the name, but I have a question? Is it custodial as in providing protection or as in incarceration?



Awesomely funny show.




Waiting 4 Wrath is why I am seen laughing hysterically while driving home on Fridays to reach that all important post work beer. If you don’t listen to this podcast you are a poopy head.
5 Stars, Colin from Canada



Many thanks to our favorite farmer for the fab photo of the red heifers because of course there are red heifers.



This Week’s Stories



Did we or didn’t we?



As I hope our esteemed listeners are fully aware, Saturday July 20 is the 50th anniversary of the first human invaders to another celestial body (that we’re aware of, Stargate-type possibilities notwithstanding). As you probably also know; I’m the oldest one on this podcast and I was but 7 months old at the time, so I don’t remember it, though my mother tells me I was crawling around the room at 3:17 pm when they were watching it on TV. It had launched a few days earlier on July 16, traversed approximately 240,000 miles of fucking nothing, and landed safely on the moon. Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin spent approximately 21.5 hours on the surface, of which about 2.5 hours was outside of the lunar module “Eagle” and walking around doing stuff. They then, along with command pilot Michael Collins made the trip back home and landed in the middle of nowhere south pacific ocean about halfway between Hawaii and the Marshall Islands.



It only took me a couple of minutes to recount the very basics of the event, but it represented the culmination of nearly 10 years of intensive engineering work and training by over 420,000 people working for the US government and over 20,000 companies, spending billions of dollars and millions of man-hours to answer President Kennedy’s May 1961 call to congress of, “…landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth.” And at Rice University in September 1962 the famous words,




“We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone,]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 244 - The One Where Jenn Rinses Her Mouth Out With Grasshoppers https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-244/ Fri, 12 Jul 2019 13:00:40 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=37065 In This Week’s Show, episode 244, we’re gonna learn about presidentially invented germs, apparently. In This Week’s Show, episode 244, we’re gonna learn about presidentially invented germs, apparently.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Acesco (the Greek goddess of healing wounds) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Earache today, gone tomorrow (or at least Showtime)

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that sharks have been on our planet longer than trees?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Voodoo Ranger Juicifer IPA | New Belgium


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/192/380214/
* BA Rating: 3.79/5
* Style: IPA
* ABV: 7.7%
* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 7
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

No patrons, no iTunes reviews, no Shea… kinda. The Patrons will get some Yeti, so make sure you’ve subscribed at https://patreon.com/w4w

4 More Beers is coming… I promise.

Brewfest is this weekend!

When you hear this, it will almost be Brewfest in Laramie! If you find yourself near our neck of the woods come to say hi and we’ll buy ya a free beer ;)

This Week

Jenn’s Story of SCIENCE(!) in History-ree-ree-ree...

As I briefly mentioned earlier, I spent most of the weekend of the 4th camping with family on a lake. Now, camping with a bunch of dogs, children and no running water will definitely give a personal appreciation of the little things after a while. Little things like hand washing and antiseptics. (After watching my oldest nephew drag up a long-dead fish to camp and all the other kids played with it for a bit, never after appearing to wash their hands, I was ready for a bleach bath.)

So today I have decided on a tale that involves history, science, health, and (since it was just July 4th) the assassination of a US President.


* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3468637/
* http://broughttolife.sciencemuseum.org.uk/broughttolife/people/josephlister
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._Garfield
* https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/dirty-painful-death-president-james-garfield


To start off our story, let me introduce you to the Right Honourable Lord Joseph Lister, British surgeon, scientist and lifelong fan of serious mutton-chops.

Born in Essex 1827, he was a brilliant and fastidious man. He was also drawn to medicine, surgery in particular, from an early age. Luckily for him, he had been born a white man, so that is what he did. In fact, he had quite an impressive career pretty much from the beginning. In 1846, he was present for the first surgery performed under anesthesia at 19. By the time he was 25, he had become a fellow at the Royal College of Surgeons in London.

His bright career trajectory (and surely his magnificent chops) led him to be suggested for employment to James Syme, Professor of Clinical Surgery in Edinburgh. The men hit it off so well that Lister quickly moved up the ranks from assistant to house surgeon to marrying Syme’s eldest daughter, Agnes. (Not to disparage the marriage; apparently, they were very close and loving. She was bright and learned in her own right and he was happy to have her join him in his work as a lifelong lab partner… since being a woman that was the best she could hope for.)

By 1860 Lister had moved to Glasgow and had begun reading about Pasteur’s work on microorganisms. Now the idea of bacteria or at least teeny-tiny things that affected things in the real world like fermenting beer or causing food to rot was pretty much established in the scientific community...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Jenn Rinses Her Mouth Out With Grasshoppers yes 1:06:59
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 243 - The One Where We Fly A Fox on the Fourth For Freedom https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-243/ Fri, 05 Jul 2019 13:00:31 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=37056 In This Week’s Show, episode 243, I pull up my big-mammal pants and try out for some sports that I might just be able to play… if I wanted to. In This Week’s Show, episode 243, I pull up my big-mammal pants and try out for some sports that I might just be able to play… if I wanted to.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Chumunda (Hindu Goddess of fear) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that goth anti-vaxxers refuse to listen to the Cure.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Rübeaus Raspberry Beer from Founders6

ACTUALLY from Steve E(??)


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/23474/
* BA Rating: 3.9
* Style: Fruit & Field Beer
* ABV: 5.7
* Aaron: 10
* Shea: 10
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Thanks to Jon for a generous donation to help Jenn get remote-teched out

Great show!

June 20, 2019 by Fuzzyesquire from United States

Been listening for two years, each show is hysterical, great conversations and just a fun time. Thanks for all the laughs and good times.

If you want to send us beer we’ll have a new address soon, so now’s the time to email us!

This Week’s Stories

Ok Shea, this one’s for you.

I’ve finally learned about sports...

Not tried, of course, but I read about them online.

Oh yes, I’ve put on my finest pair of pigeon-cleats and went for a jaunt in marry ol’England to partake of their finest sport...

Kottobas - Antiquity

Of course, if not for the Greeks we wouldn’t have the wonders of Dwile Flocking. It’s... let’s say predecessor... probably, Kottobas was a favorite circa fourth and fifth centuries BC.

To begin one must first tap a new vat of wine and serve to friends and enemies alike. Once the goblets near empty, contestants would assume the sporting position... reclining on there dining table, and deftly flick the remaining wine sediment from their glass at a target.

Apparently success in Kottobas was a precursor to success in affairs of the heart — because those who competes in the wine-games sees only 10s.

Pulling Your Goose

The Mid-17th century was a glorious time for animal based sport - and masterbation jokes.

To begin pulling your goose you need some rope to tie it up with and a horse. The goose is hung by its feet from a tree or whatever and contestants take turns riding the horse at a full gallop and try to grab the goose’s head.

The goal, because everything back then was terrible and covered in the blood of the innocent, was to pull the gooses head off. Thereby forever enshrining your position as a master head puller and also, I assume, winning you the goose-head. Also you’re, “crowned” as the “king” for one whole year with a crown and mantle. At the end of his “king” reign, he has to indulge his “subjects” to a feast of beer, cigars and bread pudding or sausages that is held either at his house or the local pub. Kings compete with each other to become the “emperor”.

The event is still practiced today in Belgium, the Netherlands, and Germany. Though use of a live goose was banned in the 1920’s. Though purist still argue that half the challenge was the bird flapping about, and a flaccid goose just isn’t as much fun to pull on.

Dwile Flonking - 1960

First things first, we’re going to have to get into a gaming mood with a rousing round of Dwile Flonking.

One of the more recent inventions of English sport, Dwile Flonking comes from Norfolk, min-1960... and almost certainly a pub. The rules are simple enough.

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Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Fly A Fox on the Fourth For Freedom yes 1:00:50
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 242 - The One Where Jim Takes Pride In His Gruyereaivoyance! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-242/ Fri, 28 Jun 2019 13:00:50 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=37046 In This Week’s Show, episode 242, we’re finishing up Pride month with a rainbowlific quiz - it’s gonna be fabulous! In This Week’s Show, episode 242, we’re finishing up Pride month with a rainbowlific quiz - it’s gonna be fabulous!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Iris (the Greek goddess of the rainbow and messenger of the gods) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s …

… playing a doubleheader of softball.

In the rain.

So much wet Yeti smell...

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

This week I learned that Shea plays softball.

Jim’s Good Gay News

In case you’ve missed it, it’s the end of Pride month! And I finally have internet restorer at Queen Acres, so it’s time to taste the rainbow, bitches!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Fat Randy's IPA | Holidaily Brewing Co.

NOT Donated by Steve E.


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/44203/213693/
* BA Rating: 3.66
* Style: American IPA
* ABV: 7%
* Aaron: 4
* Jenn: 3
* Jim: Vodka!
* Steve: 3


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Aaron had a birthday and didn’t die.

Thank you, Eli for being most fantastic

This Week’s Stories

Detective Dickhead Wants Cops to Kill the Gays https://www.advocate.com/religion/2019/6/12/tennessee-cop-turned-pastor-urges-execution-gays

We want you to sign up for http://patreon.com/w4w so you can hear about how terrible he is!

A sermon in which a minister who is also a sheriff’s detective with 20 years of service called for the execution of LGBTQ people has led to an investigation by authorities in Knox County, Tenn. Grayson Fritts gave the sermon June 2 (the first Sunday of LGBTQ Pride Month) at All Scripture Baptist Church in Knoxville, where he is pastor. Because a Bible and a badge are two great tastes that go great together.

His sermon was titled “Sodomite Reprobates” and based on the King James Version of the Bible - Leviticus 20:13, to be specific. This is one of the 9 “clobber passages” that are often trotted out to suggest that being gay is and always has been a sin. Nevermind the documented history and linguistic translations that contradict this… But it’s the same book that says gawd hates shrimp and you should be stoned for wearing a nice cotton-poly blend. I doth quote: “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”

Some quotes:


* Where’s the irony? He was ranting about Taylor Swift and then went down the rabbit hole, saying “I’m sick of sodomy getting crammed down our throats.” My first thought was “that’s not how sodomy works,” but then I remembered that many state sodomy laws include oral sex, even for heterosexuals, so Fritts and zealots like him might be “sodomites” without even realizing it.
* “The Bible says the powers that be are ordained of God, and God has instilled the power of civil government to send the police in 2019 out to these LGBT freaks and arrest them and have a trial for them, and if they are convicted, then they are to be put to death ... do you understand that? It’s a capital crime to be carried out by our government. Not Christians, unless you’re a policeman. Know what I mean? If you’re a policeman it should be your responsibility to carry these things out.”
* “Those were the laws civil government would enforce. Just like we have laws now… Murder, rape, kidnapping, adultery...they were punishable by death.”
* “Pride parades? Man, hey, call the riot teams, we got a bunch of ’em, get the paddy wagon out here, we got a bunch of ’em going to jail,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Jim Takes Pride In His Gruyereaivoyance! yes 1:05:29
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 241 - The One Where Jenn Teaches Us About Mooooon Sexing https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-241/ Fri, 21 Jun 2019 13:00:02 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=37026 In This Week’s Show, episode 241, we’re back and it’s show time! Not, not show time like last week, we promise! In This Week’s Show, episode 241, we’re back and it’s show time! Not, not show time like last week, we promise!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Selene, the Titan goddess of the moon, hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that older forms of English kept Latin’s gender specific suffixes -tor and -trix; tor was for men and trix was for women. A male pilot was an Aviator where a woman was an Aviatrix, same for gladiator and gladiatrix. This contrasts the modern system where tor is for both men and women and trix are for kids.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know our moon is the 5th largest in our solar system? And that’s all the real stuff you’re going to learn today about the moon!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Fresh Haze | Deschutes Brewery

Donated by- RW


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/63/344944/
* BA Rating: 3.83
* Style: New England IPA
* ABV: 6.5%
* Aaron: 10
* Jenn: 6
* Shea: 8


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Thanks for understanding about last week’s clusterfuck everyone. I’m blaming Texas. We tried something new and it was… terrible… just terrible.

On the upside, this airs on my birthday, so leave us an iTunes review!
~Aaron

New patron Lindy… hop?

Listener Mandy asked us on Twitter about Wyoming beers in bottles (friend is collecting ones from all 50 states and can’t find one from WY)

Plug of Chris Matheson’s new god video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHxEz7E-d9w

Chris Matheson’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Story-God-Biblical-Comedy-about-ebook/dp/B013AGFK8C/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Chris+matheson&qid=1560993835&s=gateway&sr=8-2

Jim got a shoutout on True Crime Obsessed episode where they cover ‘Matt Shepard Is A Friend of Mine’

This Week’s Stories

Patreon Hoax


* https://www.theguardian.com/technology/shortcuts/2018/apr/15/australia-doesnt-exist-and-other-bizarre-geographic-conspiracies-that-wont-go-away
* https://theculturetrip.com/pacific/australia/articles/some-people-think-australia-doesnt-exist-heres-why/
* https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/953382/Flat-Earth-theory-Australia-not-real-conspiracy


This week’s patreon story … is a hoax.

Thank you, good night.

But really, I was going to do the story of how Finland isn’t real until I checked my unplayed podcasts. Thanks Citation Needed.

So I started looking for other crypto-geos.

Turns out Wyoming isn’t real. We’re a deep-state fake. That’s true.

Also, Australia isn’t real.

We know this because in 2006 the Flat Earth Society discovered that under the Earth there be monsters… and not just drop bears. Then in 2017 a reddit user explained that a zanny land of poisonous everything and giant hoppy, boxing, mice is clearly made up. According to Floryd, who lives in Stockholm - a real place - Australia was invented by Britain as the magical place they sent all those criminals they actually murdelated. Floryd has 20,000 followers. They fervently believe that the entire island was fabricated to hide the execution of 162,000 prisoners. A con continued to this day through the employment of fake airline pilots, and zainy actors with obviously fake, cartoonish accents.



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Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Jenn Teaches Us About Mooooon Sexing yes 1:01:33
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 240 - The One Where We Remember Year 2 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-240/ Fri, 14 Jun 2019 13:00:32 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=37012 In This Week’s Show, episode 240, we look back at year two of the show and reap what chilling laughter we can from catacombs of stories long past. In This Week’s Show, episode 240, we look back at year two of the show and reap what chilling laughter we can from catacombs of stories long past.
Thanks for understanding that this show needed to be late. Apologies all!
~ Aaron

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while The Reaper hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying its patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that when you have a clap light in your bedroom, rough sex also becomes a rave.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Don’t glue your vagina shut, please.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Lake Beer | Big Lake Brewing

Donated by- Steve E.


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/33297/357474/
* BA Rating: 3.91
* Style: American Lager
* ABV: 4.7%
* Aaron: 3
* Jenn: 2
* Shea: 4
* Steve: 4


Round Table Discussion

It’s our second Clip Show. Enjoy!

Year Two


* Episode 71 @ 40:12 - Oruk-eh - Maple Medical
* Episode 72 @ 48:43 - Crystal Methodist
* Episode 73 @ 42:00 - NRA Fairy Tales
* Episode 75 @ 45:03 - Jim’s The Boss
* Episode 78 @ 13:10 - Sex Doll Angel
* Episode 88 @ 40:20 - Resurrection Seed
* Episode 105 @ 14:00 - Beardless Yeti
* Episode 106 @ 34:00 - Maple Malfeasance
* Episode 118 @ 38:58 - Nazi Furrys - Live with Jenn!


Next Week's Beer

Beer Fresh Haze | Deschutes Brewery

Donated by- RW


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/63/344944/
* BA Rating: 3.83
* Style: New England IPA
* ABV: 6.5%


Faith In Humanity Restored

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mister-rogers-honored-with-first-annual-statewide-day-of-kindness-in-pennsylvania-143-day/

"1-4-3." It's a code that beloved children's television star Fred Rogers would say to his friends in the neighborhood — and it stands for the number of letters in the words "I love you."

Now, Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf has declared May 23 — the 143rd day of the year — "143 Day," a day to celebrate and honor the Pennsylvania native's kindness by following his example. According to the Fred Rogers Center, the number was a reminder of compassion, and it meant a lot to everyone's favorite neighbor.

"I've proclaimed today to be 1-4-3 Day, Pennsylvania's first statewide day of kindness," Wolf tweeted. "Join me in spreading love today and seeing just how far a little kindness can go."

To help people show their neighbors a little extra kindness through simple good deeds, the state's website created a "kindness generator," which pumps out ideas such as "Donate to a local children's fund" and "Write your favorite teacher a letter."

“Happy #143Day, Neighbors! Whether you say, "I love you," or "143," there are many ways to show you care about someone.” pic.twitter.com/O2qzpazpNJ

— Fred Rogers Productions (@FredRogersPro) May 23, 2019

The site is also tracking how many people share their kindness on social media using the hashtag #143DayinPA. By late afternoon, it had been used nearly 12,000 times.

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To comment on a show or suggest a brew visit our web, twitter or Facebook pages. As always, we’d love to get a good rating on iTunes, Google Play, or http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36991 In This Week’s Show, episode 238, Shea and I do a story, intro a story, and apologize for Jenn and Steve skipping out on the show, because they hate you. In This Week’s Show, episode 238, Shea and I do a story, intro a story, and apologize for Jenn and Steve skipping out on the show, because they hate you.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while something struck half of us down we are not out!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that masturbation is necrophilia if you’re dead inside.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Everyone actually has 3 voices, the one in your head, the one others hear when you talk and the one the one we sweaten in post-production to stop your ears bleeding.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a few beers because the adults left us unattended!

This Week’s Beer

Bloodtusk Lager | Burial Beer Co.


* BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/31722/318003/
* BA Rating: 4.03
* Style: German Kellerbier / Zwickelbier
* ABV: 5.1%
* Aaron: 8
* Shea: 8


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patron: Locusts with Pitchforks and Glowsticks

iTunes

Always listen to you when doing outside chores, makes the time seem short and the work easier. As an atheist and home brewer this is my kind of show. I believe Jenn is from the 'boro. Want a local beer?

By Hasa Diga via iTunes - USA - May 31, 2019

Messages

We have kind of a collection of messages so…

Speaking of nursing, if we have any listeners who are in a medical field internationally or who have done international work, shoot me an email!

Voicemail!

Updates

https://www.thedailybeast.com/woman-stabs-baby-trump-balloon-in-london

After getting permission from London Mayor, Sadiq Khan, baby trump took to the air for the great Cheeto’s visit. Unfortunately on day two of his visit a woman recorded herself popping one of the giant orange balloons while saying,

“Did it! That’s a disgrace! It’s a national disgrace! The President of the United States is the best president ever.”

A spokesperson for Scotland Yard told the newspaper “one female has been arrested for being in possession of a pointed or bladed article.”

Today’s Show

It’s an Evergreen kinda show!

Hey all, we’ve got a little discombobulated this week so Shea and I will fall back on the old format for some headlines and a couple of stories. And we’ll do a lil’funny and an extra beer, then we’ll dive into some recorded, but never aired, stuff that I think you’re really going to enjoy.

Headlines Hotshots

HL1 - Fire Snakes

Snakes on a Flame

Originally recorded last week for 238.

https://www.abc12.com/content/news/This-is-crazy-Firefighters-battle-blaze-in-house-filled-with-snakes-510195951.html

In a story that will keep Aaron up all night, Arizona firefighters were called to put out a house fire when they were greeted by hundreds of snakes upon entry. Phoenix Fire Capt. Greg Hawk said firefighters were bit with the element of surprise when they responded to a house fire this past Thursday.

“It was honestly like a movie,” Hawk said. “It really hit us that, you know, we were walking around with snakes and lizards and everything else.”

You’ll be happy to hear, that because so many reptiles were in the home, it changed how firefighters fought the blaze. Rather than fighting it from the outside, they took the riskier approach and battled it from inside to save as many reptiles as they could.

"There were literally firefighters that were fighting fire, squirting water on the fire, and guys next to them picking up snakes and putting them in buckets," Hawk said. "We just knew that we had to do what we could to protect t...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Shea & Aaron Were Left Unsupervised yes 1:02:49
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 238 - The One Where Bribe A Bear With Beer To Beat But Und Boden! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-238/ Fri, 31 May 2019 13:00:38 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36969 In This Week’s Show, episode 238, it’s Tuesday, it’s the end of May, and we’re recording in a foot of snow because fuck us, that’s why. In This Week’s Show, episode 238, it’s Tuesday, it’s the end of May, and we’re recording in a foot of snow because fuck us, that’s why.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Babi (the bloodthirsty Egyptian baboon god of virility) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that you can only call it a trebuchet if it comes from the Trebuch region of France. Otherwise it’s just a sparkling catapult.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Babi’s diet consisted entirely of the entrails of the dead? But that wasn’t his most charming attribute: that would be his penis. Ancient Egyptian males who wished to, shall we say, continue to give their lovers full salutes in the afterlife would pray to Babi. His phallus was said to adorn the doors to the kingdom of heaven, as well as functioning as the mast for the Underworld ferry.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Classic Pilsner by Blackrocks Brewing

Donated By: Steve E.


* BA Link:http://bit.ly/2VN3Fly
* BA Rating: 3.9/5
* Style: German Pilsner
* ABV: 5.5%
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 7
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patron Brian! (not the dog from Family Guy, we can do better)

Patron Story

Monkeys In Space -ace-ace-ace-ace…

Well... they're exactly in space. But they are available now at http://patreon.com/w4w

https://www.space.com/able-baker-monkeys-survived-space-60th-anniversary.html

Sixty years ago today - as of recording that is - so… sixty years ago earlier this week, humanity shot two monkeys into space. What separates their story from other space-apes and Kosmo, is that they came back to Earth safely… but, sadly, without super powers.

Able and Baker took flight on May 28, 1959, soaring 300 miles (480 kilometers) up during a 15-minute flight. At the time, they were humble female laboratory animals, barely given names for the project before they were stuffed into a Jupiter Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile

In two years time the first humans would be shot into space. Unfortunately, Able would have already passed away and Baker was married off and put on display as a trophy monkey-wife.

"My whole jam with the history of the astronauts is kind of going one step back in time and going beyond the earliest stories that we know about them," Jordan Bimm, a sociologist at Princeton University who has researched Able and Baker in this context, told Space.com. "Almost nobody remembers the story of Able and Baker, who were actually the first primates to be recovered from a spaceflight."

So, like the contributions of most women in science, they were doomed to be forgotten or see all the credit go to further inflate the massive red-assed ego of some dude-bro monkey who, like totally for sure wrote the majority of the monkey-code or whatever.

They were American stars… I mean, once they landed. The preceding six consecutive monkeys dubbed Albert and one named Gordo all died of space or ex-space related death. Cold War stereotypes and symbolism, Bimm argues. "[Their survival] allowed them to perform a sort of PR work and to become, importantly, America's first celebrity space animals," he said. The monkeys flew as part of NASA's Bioflight #2 mission, along with payloads ranging from blood samples to yeast cells to two frogs they could lick to ease their travels.

Against the backdrop of the Cold War "recovering these animals alive was a huge priority; they really, really, really wanted them both alive," Bimm said. "Getting some wins on the board for America was cruci...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Bribe A Bear With Beer To Beat But Und Boden! yes 58:09
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 237 - The One Where We Treat Our Pod-Pox With Feathery Footwear https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-237/ Fri, 24 May 2019 13:00:43 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36949 In This Week’s Show, episode 237, we consult the star charts and find out Shea’s acute Yetism might be contagious, but only for yee-olde Europeans and anti-vaxxers. In This Week’s Show, episode 237, we consult the star charts and find out Shea’s acute Yetism might be contagious, but only for yee-olde Europeans and anti-vaxxers.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Hermes (Messenger of the Greek gods, aka Mercury, which btw is the 3rd sign of the zodiac, Gemini, which is also Twins, because stars — that’s right Steve, it’s an astrology show)  hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that the difference between an ass kisser and a brown noser is their depth perception.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

And I’m Jenn. Did you know that, as a woman with a still functioning uterus, it’s been a scary and disheartening week.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

White by Allagash Brewing

Donated By: James & Susan

BA Link: http://bit.ly/2VJxUKr

BA Rating: 4.15/5

Style: Belgian White

ABV: 5.1%


* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 7
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 4


New voicemail from Jessie from Jersey.

Re: Mr. Bible Pants, gave the story to Jim and we’ll get his thoughts when he can next be on… Jim?

Email from Dave

Finally, join us on Friday at 7pm Mountain (Denver) time on Shelley Segal’s YouTube channel. Look for a link on twitter at 4Wrath and facebook.

This Week’s Show

Old Medicine Show

Private Internet Access Link: http://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/buy-vpn/w4w

And if you want Shea's take on pee-porn, you'll need access to this story which is available now at http://patreon.com/w4w

With crazy medical treatments being created every day I was curious to see if there are any crazy treatments that have lasted the ages and actually work.

I’m sure you have all heard of leeches being used in ye olden times but did you know it’s still being used today? like in hospitals and by real doctors. The treatment dates back to 800 BCE when they were used in bloodletting, a practice believed to cure fevers, headaches and serious illnesses. Today leeches are used to stimulate blood circulation after skin grafts and reconstructive surgery. The leech’s saliva contains enzymes and compounds that act as an anticoagulation agent. The most prominent of these anticoagulation agents is hirudin, which binds itself to thrombins, thus, effectively inhibiting coagulation of the blood. Leeching might sound primitive but the FDA approved leeches as “medical devices” in 2004 to drain pooled blood after surgery.

Trepanation, you’ve seen this hundreds of times in horror films – the threat of having someone drill a hole into your head is scary enough. But doctors believe the practice actually serves some medical benefit. Dating back to prehistoric times, People in many areas may have thought they were releasing evil spirits from the head, but really they were reducing the damage done by a knock to the skull. The surgeries were used to remove bone shards from the head, stop bleeding on the brain, or reduce internal pressure after head trauma. Some remains had more than one hole in the skull, indicating people not only survived the first procedure, but had it done again many years later. In today’s industry, holes are drilled into the skull to relieve pressure after serious trauma to the brain has occurred. However, making a permanent hole in someone’s head isn’t a safe thing to do, and these days if a doctor makes a hole in a skull they usually replace the bone and patch it up.

We talked about leeches but how about maggots? For some reason I feel maggots are worse. Dating back to ancient times, physicians have used maggots to help clean injuries and prevent infection.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Treat Our Pod-Pox With Feathery Footwear yes 1:03:05
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 236 - The One Where We Smoke A Fox's Face Until We Barf https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-236/ Fri, 17 May 2019 13:00:36 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36933 In This Week’s Show, episode 236, we ate some tonkotsu ramen with seared steak and mushrooms… shitakies… they’re shitakies. In This Week’s Show, episode 236, we ate some tonkotsu ramen with seared steak and mushrooms… shitakies… they’re shitakies.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Pythia, the high priestess of the temple of Apollo at Delphi (aka, the Delphic Oracle), hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that in 2020 there will be a whole month of 4/20 and there will a super 4/20 where everyone will smoke crack.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that recent geological investigations have shown that gas emissions from a geologic chasm in the earth could have inspired the Delphic Oracle to "connect with the divine." Some researchers suggest the possibility that ethylene gas caused the Pythia's state of inspiration.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Black Currant Saison by White Elm Brewing

Donated By: Brendan


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2VqAxk9
* BA Rating: 3.89 out of 5
* Style: Belgian Saison
* ABV: 6.5%
* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 6
* Shea: 6
* Steve: 5


Round Table Discussion

New patron Randy! Yeah, baby! Because we are CURRENT with our jokes.

Marshall: I've made a pledge to donate $5 to Planned Parenthood each time I see anti-choice protesters in front of their clinics.

Wonderful follow-up voicemail update from our very favorite nurse, Rebecca:

(also, we need to add a couple of math updates: $1200 pounds to dollars is about $1600. This goes into Jenn’s correction corner of her intro tidbit from last week. She TOTALLY meant BC instead of AD, but saying “the 13th of the fourth moon of the ninth year of Xiantong” is hard enough without random, religious-y letters. ...

Math sucks and is hard.)

Short Story

Psycho Shaman Stuff

http://bit.ly/30nj4g2



A recent discovery in Bolivia has taught us that Native Americans living in South America over 1000 years ago had quite a powerful medical tool kit. Well I say medicine… these drugs can certainly make you feel better. What anthropologists found was the largest number of psychoactive substances ever found in a single archaeological assemblage from South America. Drugs and paraphernalia were found in a pouch, stitched together from three fox snouts, yes I said fox snouts. the leather bag contained two wooden tablets for grinding psychotropic plants into snuff, two bone spatulas, a woven headband, and a tube with two human hair braids attached, for smoking hallucinogenic plants.



"We already knew that psychotropics were important in the spiritual and religious activities of the societies of the south-central Andes, but we did not know that these people were using so many different compounds and possibly combining them together," said anthropologist Jose Capriles of Penn State.

Archaeologists weren't specifically searching for psychotropics, but rather evidence of human habitation in the dry stone shelters of the Sora River Valley Bolivia. There, in a cave, Cueva del Chileno, they found a leather bundle. Radiocarbon dating of the leather wrapping put its age at around 1,000 years old. The team took a small scraping of the material coating the inside of the fox pouch and analysed it using liquid chromatography and tandem mass spectrometry. They found that the pouch could have contained four or five different plants - but definitely at least three.

"Chemical traces of bufotenine, dimethyltryptamine, harmine, and cocaine, including its degradation product benzoylecgonine, were identified, suggesting that at least three plants containing these compounds were part of the shamanic paraphernalia,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Smoke A Fox's Face Until We Barf yes 1:01:22
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 235 - The One Where We Get Cow-Pox From Ghondy At DQB! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-235/ Fri, 10 May 2019 13:00:21 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36926 In This Week’s Show, episode 235, we’re gonna wrap up DQB in a lovely smallpox blanket with help from patriotic nurses south of the border. In This Week’s Show, episode 235, we’re gonna wrap up DQB in a lovely smallpox blanket with help from patriotic nurses south of the border.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Rangi - the Maori Sky god and ‘great father of men’ - hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that geology rocks but geography is where it’s at!

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know the ‘Diamond Sutra’ is the world’s oldest book with a definite print date? Dated “the 13th of the fourth moon of the ninth year of Xiantong”, or 11 May AD 868, it’s a 5 meter long scroll, written in Chinese and currently held in the British Library, and contains lessons from the Buddha, who gave the text its name by declaring the teachings will “cut like a diamond blade”.

So, the day after this episode airs in general release the Diamond Sutra will celebrate it’s 2,887th publishing birthday.

Jim’s Good Gay Whatever

He’s Big Gay Jim on Waiting 4 Wrath - Remotely

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Pentagram by Surly Brewing

Donated By: Jaded Zappa


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2ZQWIDn
* BA Rating: 4.15 out of 5
* Style: American Wild Ale
* ABV: 6.66%
* Aaron: 4
* Jenn: 2
* Jim: Rum
* Shea: 6
* Steve: 1


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

PATRONS! Plural! Thanks to Matt B. and Jon H. Also Willow upped her donation so she’s obviously not the evil Willow (Buffy reference for the win!!!!)

Jenn got to meet fellow podcasters and friends of the show Dustin and Lauren of Atheist Nomads, and their tiny pod-producer Kylie while in Boise.

Show updates!
We’ve mentioned this to patrons already (see, #itsgoodtobeapatron) but I’d like to soft-announce forthcoming show changes. We’ve hinted at changes for a while and some, like the new logo, have happened. Others faded away or were so subtle as to not warrant mentioning, however, this one’s a doozy. The changes will accommodate yet unannounced production challenges (that hopefully won’t be apparent in the final show), make over-all production easier on us, and address the terribly depressing state of reading the news in 2019. In a nutshell, we’re going to do a weekly longform topic, driven by a single host - think bigger second halves… whole halves, if you will. We’ll still do beers, a happy closing story, and of course Patrons will still get a unique story and access to any bonus content that happens to happen. So there’s still plenty of reason to visit https://patreon.com/w4w and support the show! We’re aiming for this change to happen in early June, but it may be a bit sooner… I say all of this to say, fear not! The show will still be a drunken, irreverent, silly-good time! Of course we’re interested in your input so tweet us, leave us a message at 513-760-0463, or if you really want to get our attention, the comments section of Patreon is great for that ;)

Headlines Hotshots

DQB Wrap Up!

Let’s talk about You and Me, let’s talk about DQB!

Damnit Humans!


Humans are the worst right? But you know what makes you a better human, donating to us at http://patreon.com/w4w! Not only will it improve your karma it will get you immediate access to this story!

See, this is why I Don’t want to read the news anymore…


* https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-48168144


Everything is dying everywhere and it’s our fault. Proving that you don’t need the infinity stones to board the genocide train, scientists released a 1,500 page report that says, in short,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Get Cow-Pox From Ghondy At DQB yes 1:06:49
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 234 - The One Where We Ride Goat-Birds To Endgame https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-234/ Fri, 03 May 2019 13:00:49 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36907 In This Week’s Show, episode 234, and I am inevitable…ly gonna pronounce most of this stuff wrong… In This Week’s Show, episode 234, and I am inevitable…ly gonna pronounce most of this stuff wrong…
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while The Titans haven’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that my favorite part of Avengers; End Game was when Pepper Pots took the Infinity Stone and put them in her vagina to cure the world of cancer.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Wasatch GhostRider White IPA, Salt Lake City, UT

Donated by: RW
BA Link: http://bit.ly/2ZBsVOY
BA Rating: 3.68/5
Style: Belgian IPA
ABV: 6%


* Aaron: 8
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Drag Queen Bingo!

Thanks to everyone who shared, donated, and came to the event! The total I’ve heard around the facebooks was 27K! Which is a fantastic boost to those living with HIV/AIDS. We need to give a special thank you to Marie & Shannon, as well as Amanda for making it to DQB! It was great to see you, sorry I had to duck out early, but I’m sure Steve and Shea kept things lively.

Headlines Hotshots

Avengers Endgame! (no spoilers!)

So I wanna talk about Endgame, but I don’t want to be like the guy in Causeway Bay, Hong Kong… the unnamed-because-of-shame-I’m-sure man had just left a showing on the 24th and decided to start yelling spoilers loudly as others were queued up in line to see the film. When the paramedics arrived he had to explain that he got his ass beat for spoiling Endgame. The first responders seem genuinely annoyed to have to help him and social media is littered with pics of him bleeding followed by comments like “he got his just deserts served” and “[feels] good seeing this.” So yeah, Thanos demands your silence and you’ll get your ass snapped if you spoil shit.

http://bit.ly/2ZSn2gn

Once in the theater, moviegoers in Zhejiang province had to sit though worse-than-usual previews as Luandu District People’s Court announced on their WeChat (because everywhere is fucked) that they would add a 30 second mini-feature to the usual mugshots of debtors displayed before movies. They called it an easter-egg, the rest of us just call it public shaming and judging by the pic, everyone was looking at their phones anyway, so why bother.

http://bit.ly/2ZSn2gn

Apparently it works though, since instituting the pre-movie shame, some 3 million people and businesses have repaid a fucking tone of debt.

I think it’s safe to say that once you get into the theater, you’re in for a hell of a ride. Just remember to breath… unlike another 21-year-old Chinese movie goer who became so emotional toward the end that she began uncontrollable sobbing and hyperventilating to the point that paramedics had to be called to bring her oxygen and get her out of the theater before Thanos claimed her as well.

http://bit.ly/2UZgzgd

So yeah, it’s a good movie. We’ll do a proper review later, but I’ll say I enjoyed the hell out of it and I totally get almost dying, or almost getting murdered, because of the film’s rollercoaster showing. That said, if you’re feeling like you’re not up to it, you can always swing by Dickson Tenn.’s Dickson theater, located across from a church and school, which is showing the new Heckboy movie… unfortunately, it has a 14% on Rotten Tomatoes… maybe Endgame can lend a few of their currently 97 percents…

http://bit.ly/2ZTCYiA

The Other Side of Low Voter Turnout

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/indonesia-elections-worker-deaths_n_5cc6942ee4b08e4e34841e60?ncid=APPLENEWS00001

In America,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Ride Goat-Birds To Endgame yes 54:49
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 233 - The One Where We Lay Rabbit Eggs For The End Times https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-233/ Fri, 26 Apr 2019 13:00:33 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36896 In This Week’s Show, episode 233, it’s bunny-chocolate holiday, so I’ve hidden a dozen rabbit eggs around Shea’s house… Shea has rabbit poo in his house. In This Week’s Show, episode 233, it’s bunny-chocolate holiday, so I’ve hidden a dozen rabbit eggs around Shea’s house… Shea has rabbit poo in his house.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Saraswati (the Hindu goddess of the arts, wisdom and learning) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that we just walk around pretending it’s not weird that one of our hands is better at stuff than the other is.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Easter is the second biggest candy holiday after Halloween?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Burning Skye Scottish Style Ale - Empyrean Brewing Co., Lincoln, NE

Donated By: Brendon


* BA Link:
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1880/5401/
* BA Rating: 3.47
* Style: Scottish Ale
* ABV: 5.3%
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 7
* Shea: 7
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Updated iTunes review:

You’re Missing Out If You’re Not Listening

by Odysseus2k7 on
Rating: ★★★★★

Long time listener and patron. I listened to the last episode and disrupted work because of my laughter. Amazing, consistent content.

Beer presents from Steve E!

Ok all, this is it - It’s last call for Drag Queen Bingo! This weekend, as of airdate, we’ll be at the Hilton Garden Inn for the Draggiest, Queeniest, Bingo Laramie has to offer. We’ll be raising money for WyoAIDS.org, which is also where you can go to buy tickets or make a donation.

Speaking of DQB and WyoAIDS, we need to thank Cog Dis for having Jim and I on this week and for their generous $500 donation! Thanks to all their listeners who have donated and/or tuned in to our weirdness… enjoy the show!

Headlines Hotshots

HL1 - FacePunch!

Take a few moments to travel away with me. We’re on our way to a beautiful beach, where’s that? Oh yes, in Brazil. Rio De Janeiro, in fact. What’s that? Could it be a photo shoot with a beautiful woman in a bathing suit? Why, yes, yes it. She has long, streaked dark hair and an eye-catching black one-piece on her toned body. Ah yes...what a sight, right?

Well, local man Josinei Ferreira sure thought so. I’m not sure what he expected visiting the beach that day, but apparently he felt he’d won the straight dude lottery. Oh, Josinei is also a nasty perv. He was enjoying the site of the swimwear clab woman so much, he pulled him swimsuit down and began to show his appreciation in a more primitive way, by beginning to masterbate. With noises.

Unsurprisingly, the object of the shoot, Joyce Vieira happened to notice a crouched man staring intently at her while she was just trying to carry on a (surely) penis-free photo session. She’s says at first she wasn’t sure what he was doing but as she approached him to tell him please continue on his way she noticed he was “visibly erect, making noises and groaning.” Once again, Vieira told him to stop, to which she says he replied, “Why, you don’t like it? Come here.”

Gross, right? And Joyce was having none of it. “It was very surreal. Generally people who are caught doing this always deny it, ‘No, no, no.’He didn’t. He continued.” Vieira responded by kicking him. Ferreira punched her back. “But the punch made me even angrier. I wanted to kill him,” Vieira said.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention. Joyce is a professional MMA fighter.

So yeah, it didn’t take very long for Josinei to realize he had made a very big mistake. “When the guy saw that it was going to get real, he started screaming.]]> Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Lay Rabbit Eggs For The End Times yes 1:11:23 Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 232 - The One Where Shelley Helps Us Find A Dolphin's Down'Unda! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-232/ Fri, 19 Apr 2019 13:00:33 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36890 In This Week’s Show, episode 232, Shelley’s here but we don’t have a live audience because her music is just for us! Also, the second half will have music… In This Week’s Show, episode 232, Shelley’s here but we don’t have a live audience because her music is just for us! Also, the second half will have music…
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Leucothea, Greek sea goddess of seagulls, hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned 87% of cats believe in the prophet Mohammed but do not identify as religious.

Shelley’s Actual Lesson

(distinct gull bird noises)

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Festbier - Boulder Beer Co, Boulder, CO
Donated By: RW
BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/130/370849/
BA Rating: 3.75
Style: German Märzen / Oktoberfest
ABV: 5.4%


Aaron: 7
Shelley: 7
Rob: 4
Shea: 7
Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

4 More Beers episode 29 will record Live on April 20th @ 1:30 MST!

Jenn is gone again and I can only assume it’s because we have no new reviews. So this one’s on you listeners…

New Patron Michael, meyers? the grinch one not the stabby hockey mask one.

Drag Queen Bingo is almost here, it’s about a week away on April 27th. This year's theme is heroes and villains so make sure you put on that spandex! Tickets are on sale now at wyoaids.org or find the link in the show notes.

https://wyoaids.org/bingo 

Last year Marti and her pals raised over $28,000 and we want to do everything we can to top it this year. If you can make it we would love to see you and probably buy you a drink! Doors open at 530 and the bingo starts at 7. If you can’t make it but still want to support Marti you can make a donation at wyoaids.org.

Shea's Cuddle Corner

In honor or our studio guest who is a seagull, I decided to create an animal segment I call the Yeti’s Cuddle Corner! I found a few great animal stories this week and I thought it would be fun to get a bit wild!

In a new study it has been discovered that cats are dicks. Though I think any owner knew that. What science actually found out was that cats know the sound of their own names. Cats in the new study turned their heads and ears toward the sound of their names, but generally didn't bother to vocalize back or communicate using their tails. They also don’t bother coming or caring about your plight. From Inside Science, the findings came from a series of experiments using 16 to 34 cats in Japan. To get in the minds of their feline subjects, the researchers first made recordings of a human voice saying four common words with the same accent pattern and number of syllables as the cat's name, followed by the name itself. For example, a cat named Kari heard the words "hifu" (Japanese for skin) and "shuto" (Japanese for capital).

Most cats quickly became desensitized to the repeated words but would perk up and twitch their head when hearing their own names.

The researchers also tested what happened when the recording started with the names of other cats living in the same household. A few of the cats grew accustomed to the voice perked up again when they heard their name, indicating that they knew it was their own.

https://www.insidescience.org/news/scientists-confirm-cats-recognize-their-own-names

There are some really fucked up scientists in this world and this proves it. “New insights on the form and function of the dolphin clitoris” This month the world of science has discovered that female bottlenose dolphins have large and well-developed clitorises. The structure of dolphin clits suggests that i...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Shelley Helps Us Find A Dolphin's Down'Unda yes 1:07:38
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 231 - The One Where We Tear Down This Pay-Wall https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-231/ Fri, 12 Apr 2019 13:00:57 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36875 In This Week’s Show, episode 231, we reshow the show that didn’t show. In This Week’s Show, episode 231, we reshow the show that didn’t show.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Linus (the Greek personification of dirges and lamentations) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if you were paid a nickel every time a blue whale is born, in one year’s time you would realize you have a very poor paying job in a career that makes no sense.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Passover (which is occurring the weekend of this show’s release) is the most widely celebrated Jewish holiday?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

From 230

Goliath Imperial Stout - White Elm Brewing Company Lincoln, NE

Donated By: Brendon

BA Link: http://bit.ly/2uiZFOF

BA Rating: 4.13

Style: Imperial Stout

ABV: 12%


* Aaron: 5
* Jenn: 5
* Shea: 1
* Steve: 3


Round Two


* Aaron: 3
* Jenn: 4
* Shea: 1
* Steve: 3


Oakspire Bourbon Barrel Ale - New Belgium Ft. Collins, CO

Donated By: Steve J

BA Link: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/192/355616/

BA Rating: 3.81

Style: American Strong Ale

ABV: 9%


* Aaron: 6
* Jenn: The Beast is Worse
* Shea: 2
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

We’ve got Patrons!


* Colin
* Samantha


High on my must-listen list

by wubwub on

RATING: ★★★★★

Love the guys and gal and their irreverent take on headlines. Wish I had friends as good as these.

We got prezzies!

And we’ve got updates!
‘Smallville’ Actress Allison Mack Pleads Guilty in Sex Cult Case - Variety

https://apple.news/A6rRpVdVVR1qVpt8ilOndsw

Everyone's Agnostic!

Not only is Jenn back on our show this week she's also the guest of the week on the episode of Everyone's Agnostic airing Sunday. So head over to http://www.everyonesagnostic.com

Headlines

HL1 - All Natural...ish.

Story: http://bit.ly/2TJfVTm

FDA: http://bit.ly/2TLYn8T

This story comes to us care of Alex at the American Council on Science and Health’s news page.

Apparently, you can make Leopard Honey.

Because "nature" means safe and "untested by the FDA" means the man and Big ... Food safety... aren't going to be up in your dick.

According to Leopard Honey, a packet of their "Miracle Honey" - coming in 12 packs, each about an ounce - will:


* Eliminates impotence and infertility
* Enhances nutrient absorption and metabolism
* It's rich in proteins, amino acids ... so ... proteins, vitamins, digestive and metabolic enzymes
* Supports the immune system *
* It’sanislant energy sourc* (direct copy and paste)
* Intensifies the body's muscular increase


That's a fucking lot of stuff for some honey packets to do! Especially when each one is barely enough to sweeten my tea.

I like honey. Fucking hate bees though.

So what's in Miracle Honey?

1st, of course, you're going to need Pure Flower honey. The kind from bees. Bees who are, in fact, terrible hate drones.

You'll need a dash of Tongkat Ali root.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Tear Down This Pay-Wall yes 1:09:39
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 230 - The One Where The Got The Better Of The Techies https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-230/ Fri, 05 Apr 2019 13:00:20 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36872 In This Week’s Show, episode 230, properly fucked up the record, so enjoy most the show! In This Week’s Show, episode 230, properly fucked up the record, so enjoy most the show!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Otunairanga (the Maori guardian of palms and flax) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson
This week I learned about seagulls, they are just pigeons possessed by demons, the average seagull is three stories wide, they feed on chips and children's fear, and they can fuck right off.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson
Did you know that bones found on Seymour Island indicate that, about 37-40 million years ago, penguins stood about 6ft tall and weighed around 250lbs?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

#MyLastShot


* https://www.mylastshot.org 
* https://cnn.it/2TObAOH
* http://bit.ly/2TPjo2C
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd_Jr. (man dragged behind a truck in Texas by white supremacists) mentioned in the story by Steve
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kendrick_Johnson (boy found dead in a rolled-up mat in Valdosta, GA) mentioned in the story by Jenn
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallahassee_shooting Yoga studio shooting mentioned by Jenn
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings Elliot Roger, Isla Vista Killings


New Zealand’s recent shooting inspired responsible gun law changes in less than a week. Sadly, school shootings here are as American as Apple Pie…

Side note, Apple Pie’s Americanness was likely engrained during the second world war. Soldiers when asked why they enlisted, would commonly reply “for mom and apple pie.” The actual origins of Apple Pie go back to 1381 in England; an apple pie recipe was printed by Geoffrey Chaucer and included apples, figs, raisins, pears, and a pastry shell but no sugar.

Anyway, school shootings.

Recently in Delaware, there was a school lockdown that was, frankly, a shit show. "So my kids (sic) school had a genuine lockdown today," wrote Shelley Reed, mother of a 7-year-old at the school, "some whack job called in a bomb threat. Police came and everything was fine, Thank God!" All was fine, but after the event, Shelley noticed markings on her daughter's arm. Looking closer she saw, hastily written in purple Crayola marker, was “Love Mom and Dad.” When asked why the 7-year-old - just gonna keep saying that - the 7-year-old said: "in case the bad guy got to us and I got killed, you and daddy would know that I love you."

And that’s the reality of schools and childhood in America.

Fast forward to modern Columbine and nearly 20 years after the mass shooting, it’s still affecting the students. Students who, by the way, hadn’t even been born when the shooting took place. Most of the attention comes from shitty, shitty people treating the school as a tourist location. So shitty…

The more important attention is from current Columbine students. Kaylee Tyner, 17, told CNN that she was inspired by Emmett Till’s death and legacy when she began #MyLastShot.

For those unaware, very briefly, Emmit Till was lynched in August of 1955 for purportedly flirting with a white woman. A few days after the interaction two men, bristling with guns, forced their way in Till’s uncle’s home, abducted, beat, mutilated, and murdered the boy. Dumping his body in the Tallahatchie River. Those accused of his murder were acquitted after a seedy-as-fuck Mississippi trial and,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where The Got The Better Of The Techies yes 54:22
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 229 - The One Where Steve Fights A Yeti With His Veggie-Type — It's Super Effective! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-229/ Fri, 29 Mar 2019 13:00:58 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36847 In This Week’s Show, episode 229, we get our dogs stoned so they can ride angry whales into battle with time traveling Iraqi dinosaurs! In This Week’s Show, episode 229, we get our dogs stoned so they can ride angry whales into battle with time traveling Iraqi dinosaurs!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ori (or-I), the god-like jerks who founded Origin, haven’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that a blue whale is so large that if it were to be laid on a basketball court the game would be canceled.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

No reviews, No Jenn

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Framboise Du Nord - August Schell Brewery, New Ulm, MN

From: Jaded Zappa

BA Link: http://bit.ly/2Yd9pHP

BA Rating: 4.09

Style: Berliner Weisse

ABV: 3.7%


* Aaron: 9
* Shea: 10
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Kinda fuck all… No new patrons will check for reviews… and Jenn isn’t here.

Also, there be show winds a’blowing … and I don’t mean Steve. No real teasers yet, but a question. If you could tell us to cover a topic, any topic at all regardless of subject, timeliness, or truthiness, what would it be?

WyoAIDS tickets!

We’ll have a few tickets to give away so leave us a 30 second to 1 min voicemail at 513-760-0463 about why WyoAIDS is great and you’re in! Also, we’ll love you for it.

Headlines

Whale, fuck!

http://bit.ly/2YuhpEF

Not quite the story of Jonah and the whale but at least this is true. South African dive tour operator Rainer Schimpf was nearly swallowed by a whale after he was mistakenly swept into its jaws during a sardine feeding frenzy last month. First, I want to take a second to admire Rainer’s last name… Schimpf… sounds like shrimp, maybe he has it coming. The 51-year-old was snorkeling near Port Elizabeth Harbour, on the eastern coast of South Africa, when a series of photos captured him being sucked headfirst into a Bryde’s whale’s mouth. These are moderately sized whales apparently but are still 45 feet long.

“There was no time for fear or any emotion,” he told The Telegraph. “I knew instantly what had happened. I knew that a whale had come and taken me and I instinctively held my breath, assuming that it would dive down again and spit me out somewhere in the depths of the Indian Ocean.”

Little Schimpfy was lucky, Bryde’s whales are known to dive for up to 15 minutes and up to 1000 feet deep, after being swallowed the whale released his jaws allowing him to escape. A passing photographer witnessed the scene from a nearby boat and immediately began snapping away, capturing everything but Schimpf’s legs vanishing inside the whale.

“Whales are no man-eaters,” witness Claudia Weber-Gebert told Barcroft Animals in an interview. “This was no attack. It was no fault of the whale. They are really sensitive, they are gentle giants, and it was just an accident.”

Or so you think Claudia… that's how it all starts.

“It was an interesting experience for me but surely nothing I’d like to do again,” he told Barcroft Animals. “I don’t think I had a whale of a time, but I now have the inside knowledge of a whale which nobody else has.”

It Ain't Easy Be’n No Cheesy


* http://bit.ly/2YwB5HU
* http://bit.ly/2TJkVHw


As I’ve mentioned several times in the past, my daughter is a vegan or was anyway. As it turns out, it’s not an easy life choice to maintain. She, like many others, have moved away from veganism to vegetarianism. Her reasoning is pretty pure for a teenager. She was missing pizza and a having a wide variety of ice cream flavors,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Steve Fights A Yeti With His Veggie-Type — It's Super Effective! yes 1:02:52
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 228 - The One Where We Drag Out Our Inner Irish Queens! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-228/ Fri, 22 Mar 2019 13:00:19 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36837 In This Week’s Show, episode 228, it’s time to bone up on our Irish folklore and see if we can drive all the tube-snakes out of Colorado’s new favorite beer. In This Week’s Show, episode 228, it’s time to bone up on our Irish folklore and see if we can drive all the tube-snakes out of Colorado’s new favorite beer.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while whatever struck Jenn down hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying its patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that many medical scientists are on the autism spectrum, therefore autism causes vaccines.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

She’s dead Jim...must be the Irish potato famine!

Jim’s Good Gay News

When Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar and his partner Matthew Barrett (yes, they’re gay!) were in Washington this week on a diplomatic visit to the US, they had breakfast at Vice President Mike Pence’s residence in honor of St Patrick’s Day. Varadkar threw some shade at Pence by saying “I stand here as the leader of my country. Flawed and human, but judged by my political actions, not by my sexual orientation, my skin tone, gender, or religious beliefs.” He added, “We are, after all, all God’s children.” Karen “Mother” Pence was out of the country, but don’t worry. Pence’s sister Anne was there to make sure Pence didn’t accidentally sleep with the gays either because apparently, zealots can’t control their sexual urges when eating without a chaperone present. http://bit.ly/2YeNgJe

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Lucky Bucket Brewing Co.- Tropic Wonder (Mango and habanero)

Donated by Brenden


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2u6olcP
* BA Rating: 3.41/5
* Style: American Blonde Ale
* ABV: 4.00
* Aaron: Oh feck meh! (7)
* Jim: No fucking way (4)
* Shea: 10
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New patrons - Dylan and Swytchie (switchie)

Also, it’s St. Paddy’s Day! We’re drinking green beer and Guinness… which is also a beer I guess, but solidly ungreenable.

Also, Jim’s here with a special announcement for Drag Queen Bingo! They’re doing VIP tables this year and because we’re fancy bitches, we’re getting one… but they’re 10-tops and we don’t have that many +1’s, so we’re giving away a handful of tickets!


If you’re 100% sure you can make it to Laramie Wyoming’s Hilton Garden Inn Ballroom on April 27th, call in at 513-760-0463 and leave us your best 30 seconds to 1-minute plug for Wyoming AIDS Assistance! We’ll give the best X entrants free tickets, beer, and use your promos on our show and any others to raise money! Super win-win!


Headlines Hotshots

90 Minute Quicky!

C-net and a few other places are reporting on the newest trend from GoPro… or someone who wishes. they were GoPro.

I suppose, looking to create the ultimate selfie-stick, UK company Julz has created the “cock cam” a cock-ring complete with a dangling 1080P, night vision enabled, camera that for the low price of $160 will: capture your climax” in the grossest possible way…

The company makes no qualms about the fact that it’s a cock-camera-ring say “yes, it’s a cock-camera ring.” To demo the technology they got a dildo stuck to a base jumper’s head and had him jump off a clip. Because that’s kinda like how sex works. I’m sure to put your worries to ease when I say that the camera is standards compliant, recording H,264 in MP4 at 1080P for up to 90 minutes… because the good folks at Julz have high expectations of you. "When filming for long periods of time the camera runs warm," Julz cautions. "The product is safe to use. If the Cock Cam becomes uncomfortable please stop using and contact our team." Which is a great way of saying “batteries heat up and we’d really like you to not blow your dick off.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Drag Out Our Inner Irish Queens! yes 1:04:34
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 227 - The One Where We Verify Your Age Before Sex'n Your Mom https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-227/ Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:00:40 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36825 In This Week’s Show, episode 227, I’m back so we’re gonna talk about lots of sex and weird stuff. In This Week’s Show, episode 227, I’m back so we’re gonna talk about lots of sex and weird stuff.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Brighid (the Irish hearth goddess) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that gay sex is literally twice as manly as straight sex.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

The Great Whiskey Fire of Dublin killed 13 people in 1875. No one actually died as a result of smoke inhalation or burns. They all died of alcohol poisoning by drinking the whiskey flowing through the streets.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Schwartzbier: a collaboration of Deschutes & Bell’s brewery

From RW


BA Link: http://bit.ly/2tUITFa
BA Rating: 4.04/5
Style: Dark Lager
ABV: 6%
Aaron: 6
Jenn: 7
Shea: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

4MB’s Sunday, Bloody Sunday! So join us for a GREEN BEER!

RW’s prezzies!

Headlines!

There really is an App for everything…


http://bit.ly/2TC1B3H



There are a lot of gaps. Thigh gaps. Wage gaps. And where our ven-App and lady-gap overlap… the orgasm gap! Canada’s National Film Board started to do some research into the orgasm-gap and found a 2014 study that showed that when having sex with a new partner, roughly 85% of men got their cookies, but only 62% of women were so lucky. That number grew a mear 13% when studying lesbians.

Apparently realizing the low cinematographic quality of bored, underwhelmed ladies, the Film board began development of a mobile phone game. “It might be because the clitoris is not sort of well-known,” said Maude Fraser of the o-gap, “so what we’re saying to close that orgasm gap is [the game] Clit-me.” When launched the game begins with a video introducing the player to the anatomy of the clitoris - represented in the game as a cartoon octopus-like avatar based on 2015’s first-ever 3D model of the clit. “We learned a lot of stuff because the clitoris doesn’t actually look like what we think it looks like,” said Fraser, noting that players begin by customizing their avatar because “every clitoris is unique.”

Players use their fingers to make “tactile movements” on the screen aiming to score points by “satisfying” your clit-o-puss. If you have the phalangeal-dexterity to make it to level 5, you’ll be faced with the most terrifying beast cryptozoology hasn’t found, the female orgasm. “We want to bring awareness to that body part,” Fraser said. “Embrace your clitoris and learn about it and care about it.” So if you want your own Tamacoochi visit https://nfb.ca/clitme 

There’s Also An App For Porn

No, this isn’t another headline where I’m gonna tell you about PornHub. It’s a headline about keeping the Queen from watching you watch PornHub.


http://bit.ly/2TC1Bkd
http://bit.ly/2uaiKlQ


Private Internet Access: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/buy-vpn/w4w

Yes, it’s an affiliate link but we use this service and wouldn’t suggest it if it sucked. It’s pretty simple to use, cheap, and fast. I’m not necessarily suggesting putting all your traffic through it, but you could.

~ Aaron

Since 2015 we’ve been … reporting … on the UK’s efforts to impose legal restrictions on accessing internet porn. And in a 2017 bill, the UK has done-kinda, just-ish, that-mostly. The 2017 Digital Economy Act includes a set of strict new rules that among other things require one to obtain a porn-pass from a local newsstand who can card ...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Verify Your Age Before Sex'n Your Mom yes 1:06:38
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 226 - The One Where The Crew Decodes Aaron's Speak & Spell https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-226/ Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:00:32 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36817 In This Week’s Show, episode 226, Aaron only contributes this sesquipedalian introduction for Shea, so enjoy the schadenfreude of Steve’s floccinaucinihilipilification… In This Week’s Show, episode 226, Aaron only contributes this sesquipedalian introduction for Shea, so enjoy the schadenfreude of Steve’s floccinaucinihilipilification…

* Sesqui-pedalian (ses-kwi-pi-dey-lee-uh n) - characterized by the use of long words,
* Floccinaucinihilipilification (flok-suh-naw-suh-nahy-hil-ul-pil-uh-fi-key-shun n)- act or habit of estimating something as worthless… (mainly encountered as one of the longest words in English)


Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ceres (series)(the Roman counterpart of Demeter) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned you can't buy hot pockets, you can only buy cold pockets.you have to supply the heat yourself! Don't believe the lies.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know the first temple of Ceres at Rome was vowed by the dictator A. Postumius Albinus, in 496 BCE, for the purpose of averting a famine with which Rome was threatened during a war with the Latins? No word if JK Rowling sued him for naming rights.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

First of all, let's clear something up.
The band in the Cantina is called the Modal Nodes. But we're not VH1, so I'll just say they're fantastic Jizz players from Birth, who I assume, would also be pretty pissed at Chick-fil-a.
~A

Attila the Hen - Against The Grain Brewery & Smokehouse

Donated By: Jaded Zappa


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2T3j4BM
* BA Rating: 3.99/5
* Style: Rye Beer
* ABV: 12.7%
* Jenn: 3
* Shea: 1
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New patron Gerhard Roux

YAAAY NEW ITUNES REVIEW!!

I don’€™t even drink beer!

by RexTuesday on

RATING: ★★★★★

Despite a huge section of this show being devoted to beer reviews, I love every minute of it because of every members sense of humor and the wonderful dynamic between the hilarious hosts. Jenn’€™s still the best but I love all y’€™all!

Nice email from Robert Ray of the Original Motto project all the way from Antarctica! Glad you know have WiFi and it was great to hear from you.

Voicemail from Amanda!

Sorry, patrons, due to some scheduling difficulties we’re gonna be a little late with 4 More Beers, but I’ve brought a doctor’s note.

Headlines Hotshots

Moo Love


* http://bit.ly/2tUn2O2


Cows need love too. Launched last month, a new tool is helping farmers find love for their flock. The new app, called Tudder, directs you to a page on the SellMyLivestock website where they can browse more pictures and data about the animals before deciding whether to buy.

“Matching livestock online is even easier than it is to match humans because there’s a huge amount of data that sits behind these wonderful animals that predicts what their offspring will be,” said Doug Bairner, CEO of Hectare Agritech which runs SellMyLivestock.

Much like Tinder, the app shows a picture of the livestock, sorry clients, and farmers can use their phones to swipe right for yes and left for no. Provided is even valuable information on matters like milk yield and protein content, or calving potential, much more thorough than its human equivalent.

A cattle farmer and Tudder user James Bridger said it eases transport stress for animals and may rival traditional markets.

“You’ve got all this data of its background and everything which if you’re at a market you might not have had the time to go through for every single random animal,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where The Crew Decodes Aaron's Speak & Spell yes 1:14:39
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 225 - The One Where We Dunk Gingersnaps In Our Beer! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-225/ Fri, 01 Mar 2019 14:00:00 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36791 In This Week’s Show, episode 225 we join a cult to snap some gingers but don’t worry, they don’t have souls or feelings like real people… In This Week’s Show, episode 225 we join a cult to snap some gingers, but don’t worry, they don’t have souls or feelings like real people…
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Urika, Terry Pratchett’s Goddess of Snow, Saunas and Theatrical Performances for Fewer than 120 People hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that Adulthood was invented in 1410 by Peter J Adult when he realized that his whole body hurt but he still had to be alive for a while.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

She is dead… I think. All I know is it’s not our fault. Could be measles…?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Snow Beast Winter Ale - Kinkaider Brewing Co.

Donated By: Brendon


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2BbVoQC
* BA Rating: 3.99/5
* Style: Winter Warmer
* ABV: 6.1%
* Aaron: 4
* Shea: 2
* Steve: 2


Amy- Double Dunk- Prairie Artisan Ale - 2


* http://bit.ly/2TbabWT


William - Winter Storm ESB - Heavy Seas Beer - 6


* http://bit.ly/2T7St6L


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Joined by the Ginger Snaps, Amy & William

The Drunk Dial receiving sms messages has gone well, thanks for not making us regret that. Also, yes, there can be only one and I’m pretty sure Jesus is no Highlander.

Also we got some txt messages from offended cow lover Craig Defarmer

Also-also, as a reminder, we’ve seen a number of folks sign up for patreon and their cards either have never been charged or have been declining recently. We’re not sure if this is part of Patreon’s new Patron Relationship tool or whatever, but it’s probably a good time to check your cards, donation levels, etc.

Also, Lorraine, your stuff is edited and on the way, I’m sorry I suck.

Headlines Hotshots

Aaron's Dream Come True

http://bit.ly/2T58F8X

New hope for the French fencing federation. In a bid to appeal to younger generations the FFF has recognized lightsaber dueling as an official sport. In the past movies like Zorro and Robin hood have increased interest in the sport of fencing, hoping to keep this trend going and increase interest in the sport, star wars lightsaber battles are now sanctioned in France.

The new sport of lightsaber dueling has additional rules designed to improve its aesthetic appeal. For example, the point of the lightsaber needs to reach behind each fighter before they attempt a hit. The intention is to make fights consist of large sweeping motions rather than the quick stabs of the blade you see in other forms of fencing. Much like fencing points are awarded depending on where the blade makes contact (hitting the head or body gets you five points, arms or legs gets you three, and hands gets you just one), and the first person to 15 points wins. If the match isn’t over after three minutes, then the person with the highest score automatically wins.

And because magnetically-contained plasma swords are still out of our reach combatants to use an illuminated “blade” made of polycarbonate and fight in a darkened arena.

“With young people today, it’s a real public health issue,” Serge Aubailly, the federation’s secretary general, told the Associated Press. “It’s becoming difficult to [persuade them to] do a sport that has no connection with getting out of the sofa and playing with one’s thumbs. That is why we are trying to create a bond between our discipline and modern technologies, so participating in a sport feels natural.”

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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 224 - The One Where We Sail The Icy Less-Than-Great Lakes - Patreon https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-224/ Fri, 22 Feb 2019 14:00:28 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36779 In This Week’s Show, Episode 224, we jack a bunch of ice water to cool our apparently ultra-many, uncontrollable, lust-beer. It’s a sour. In This Week’s Show, Episode 224, we jack a bunch of ice water to cool our apparently ultra-manly, uncontrollable, lust-beer. It’s a sour.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Cardea, The Roman Goddess Of Door Hinges hasn't struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if you have a friend, coworker, or acquaintance who is acting strange, you need to reach out. Ask if they are really Scott Bakula, trying to change history for the better.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

After Cardea was forced to sleep with the god Janus, Janus declared, “In return for our dalliance, be thine the control of hinges.” Then he gave her a magical hawthorn branch that repelled evil and declared that people must eat beans and pork in her honor every June 1. Women love pork and beans!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Matame Ahorita - Anchorage Brewing Company

Donated By: Jaded Zappa
BA Link: http://bit.ly/2BaxTHM


* BA Rating: 4.0
* Style: American Wild Ale
* ABV: 6.5%
* Aaron: 8
* Shea: 10
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

As you’ve likely noticed by now, the great and lovely Jenn isn’t with us today. She decided that Mr. Jenn was her priority so… shit. Oh well. We know where we place and it’s fine. Really. It's FINE!

Round Table Discussion

Follow up-You may remember our mentions of David and Collet Stephan who allowed their son to die of meningitis after “treating” him with naturopathic horseshit. They were convicted of the child’s death, but the conviction was overturned on a technicality and now they’re scheduled to be heard by the Canadian Supreme Court. The good news is that they are buried in debt from the previous trials and asked the government to provide them with 4 million dollars (Canadian, of course, so like $3.50 real-money) for the supreme court case. The judge said no and gave them nothing. So, fuck them, fuck their continuous conspiracy theories, and fuck their stupid anti-science beliefs.

http://bit.ly/2BMY47E

VM from Mr. Biblepants!

Headlines

Teens sneak out for shots http://bit.ly/2BMce95

In a strange turn of events teens across the globe are sneaking out and taking shots against their parents' wishes. These aren't the alcoholic shots we took as kids these are the shots our parents made us get before we got polio or measles. One Ohio teen, Ethan Lindenberger, celebrated his 18th birthday by getting inoculated for MMR, chickenpox, polio, influenza, HPV, tetanus, hepatitis A and hepatitis B. 8 shots was way more than I could handle when I turned 18. Like many anti-vaxxer parents, Lindenberger's family believes immunizations can be harmful to children and even cause brain damage. However, Lindenberger started questioning his parents' decision after conducting his own research.

“I was very vocal about vaccines, and I expressed a lot of problems with her logic for a couple of years now.” He first began questioning his mom's views after seeing her ripped apart by intelligent people on Facebook. Ethan decided to take control of his health after a friend reminded him that he could finally, legally, get the vaccines now that he was 18. In a millennial move that is becoming increasingly warranted Ethan turned to the internet for help. In a post on Reddit r/nostupidquestions, he posted “My parents are kind of stupid and don’t believe in vaccinations. Now that I’m 18, where do I go to get vaccinated? Can I get vaccinated at my age?”

The post went viral with a mix of positive and negative feedback but finally propelled Ethan to take the shots. After telling his parents his father was supportive and told Ethan ...]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 223 - The One Where We Celebrate S.A.D. With German Salami... https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-223/ Fri, 15 Feb 2019 14:00:28 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36770 In This Week’s Show, episode 223, we celebrate singles day by talking about love, happiness, and how none of those things are for you. In This Week’s Show, episode 223, we celebrate singles day by talking about love, happiness, and how none of those things are for you.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Vulcan, the Roman god of fire, the forge and pon farr, hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if you die during an orgasm, you're coming and going at the same time.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that the oldest known written valentine still in existence today was a poem written in 1415 by Charles, Duke of Orleans, to his wife while he was imprisoned in the Tower of London?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Trigo by Founders Brewing Company

Donated By: RW


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2BavbSP
* BA Rating: 3.89/5
* Style: American Lager
* ABV: 6.3%
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 7
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 8


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Voicemail

Jessie from Jersey!

Guesting!

Jenn was on Everyone’s Agnostic today!

It will be airing March 31st so look out for that!

Steve and Aaron were on Beyond The Trailer Park on Monday, it was a live show but the recording is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYPKfo-Hlyw Enjoy!

Happy Valentine’s Day patrons, happy discount candy day everyone else!

Headlines Hotshots

German Single’s Day

http://bit.ly/2RU4lnz

No, the story isn’t about some anti-Valentinian nonsense, I saved that for the Patrons. Though, this story may be of note to them…

It turns out that you can jack-off to death.

A new study of German sex and death, because Germany is a fun place, found that masturbation kills about 100 Germans a year. Also, the study was kinda specific, so we’re gonna make fun of weird sex stuff, but remember, it’s not ok to kink-shame… unless by the end of the night someone finds a body, then… you know… what the fuck!

The study revealed that one man died wearing pantyhose… ok… a raincoat, getting weirder, and a diving suit, as well as a plastic bag over his head… while sitting next to a heater trying to melt cheese slices on himself… with porn. So yeah, all you cheddar-scuba-coat-bag-ophiles need to take extra precautions.

Also of note, the lethal side effects of using Christmas lights as nipple-electro-clamps… That’ll cause all kinds of cardiac-arrhythmia, so just don’t.

About 80% of the deaths were due to strangle-jacking it. Apparently passing out just after you’re done is the trick… ‘cause… I guess if you passed out first you’re just awkwardly strangling yourself and if you don’t pass out you… umm…

Apparently, 1 or 2 in every 1 million Germans will die of their dildos or other “props.” Which is why you want to have a professional set designer do your lighting, I mean really…

If you’re wondering about demographics… you’re stupid… but also almost certainly correct in your initial assumption that of course, victims are usually men, since women were “more cautious and don't incorporate so many intricacies.” So there ya have it, I know it’s sexy-time holiday and all, but please keep in mind that Rube Goldberging your dick off can be fatal.

Shea - Canada hates women and Non-Patreons! So check out http://patreon.com/w4w for this story, right now!

https://read.bi/2S3MgU2

In a strange twist, Saudi Arabia has brought up strange allegations involving Canada's treatment of women. It highlighted the disappearance of 1,000 indigenous women over the last hundred years and failed to mention how their women still fight for ...]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 222 - The One Where We Have A Glut Of Good News & Worms! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-222/ Fri, 08 Feb 2019 14:00:33 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36747 In This Week’s Show, episode 222, something something superbowl, something fuck you maroon 5, something something Tom Brady sucks. In This Week’s Show, episode 222, something something superbowl, something fuck you maroon 5, something something Tom Brady sucks.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Mimir (the Aesir of wisdom for the Norse) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that the W in Islam stands for women's rights. And Aaron learned that Bud Light doesn’t have corn syrup in their shitty rice beer.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that many of the Norse supernatural gang became too dependent and/or informed on Mimir’s wise advice for Odin’s liking? To combat this issue the Allfather had him beheaded, smeared it with preservation herbs, gave it the ability to speak and kept Mimir’s secrets and council all to himself.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Half Pipe Sour Pale Ale by Tallgrass Brewing Co.

Donated By: Steve E for Shea


* UT Link: http://bit.ly/2Bej1Iv
* UnTapped Rating: 3.57
* Style: Sour Pale Ale
* ABV: 5%
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 3
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patrons! Jason and Paige.

Voicemail: Follow up from Amanda - we’re glad everything more or less worked out!

Voicemail from Travis

Headlines Hotshots

HL1 - Measles Headline from 221

Disease of the stupid

http://bit.ly/2WOo4IY

Finally, to round out my good news headlines with more dumbassery. Washington state officials declared a public health emergency due to an outbreak of measles in an anti-vax hot spot. Clark County, which is just across the Columbia River from Portland, OR, has now recorded 31 confirmed cases of the easily preventable disease. Shockingly, at least 20 of those infected were not vaccinated. This area has an estimated 7% of students with exemptions from compulsory vaccinations due to personal or religious reasons.

This is a topic that I continually rail about since it is based on nothing but willful ignorance and stupid beliefs (see my earlier story). As recently as the year 2000, measles was declared eliminated in the U.S. after there was no continuous transmission of it for over a year. Now, fuck wits are bringing it back and risking the lives of people who cannot be vaccinated due to actual medical issues.

As bad as it is in Oregon and Washington, they’re not alone. New York is also dealing with at least 182 cases with the outbreak almost exclusively among the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community. Last year, there were 349 cases across 26 states which is the highest number since 2000. There have been 667 cases since 2014.

Measles is so nasty, that 90% of people who are not immune who just are near an infected person will become infected. This is no joke. It’s nasty, it’s virulent, and most importantly, easily prevented. Don’t be a dipshit. Vaccinate.

 

HL2 - It’s Story Time Kids!

http://bit.ly/2SD9zZ2

James “Doc” according to … probably himself… Greene was arrested this week at the Houston Library. James is banned from the Library for filming kids, being an asshole, and oh yeah, carrying a gun into the Library. He has a conceal-carry of course, but it’s a no go at the Library, especially during a children’s even like Drag Queen Story Time.

Greene flashed a badge in an attempt to claim that he’s a member of the media - because that’s now media-stuff works. “We have a bunch of homosexuals that are molesting children,” he says. “They are doing it with your help.”

When we refused to GTFO, the cops arrested him and,]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 221 - The One Where 9 Ninjas Hide In The Cover Art and In Shame! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-221/ Fri, 01 Feb 2019 14:00:30 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36732 In This Week’s Show, episode 221, Dunning wipes up the Schmit's with Islam rolled papers and Kruger’s dog shits in Japan’s headphones. In This Week’s Show, episode 221, Dunning wipes up the schmit’s with Islam rolled papers and Kruger’s dog shits in Japan’s headphones.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Attar (the Arabian god of war and antelopes) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his

patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that after all this time the Titanic's pools are still filled.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that pronghorns are neither antelopes nor deer? It is the sole surviving member of an ancient family dating back 20 million years. The pronghorn is the only animal in the world with branched horns (not antlers) and the only animal in the world to shed its horns, as if they were antlers.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Beer - Pineapple Mana from Maui Brewing Co.

Donated by: Steve-E


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2BLXHcC
* BA Rating: 3.54
* Style: American Pale Wheat Ale
* ABV: 5.5
* Aaron: 6
* Jenn: 4
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New patron fatgirlballet!

Thanks to Dave for getting the Hemingway trout recipe to us. It involves bacon, but sadly no whiskey or shotguns.


* Fresh cleaned trout (I cut the heads off, I hate to have my food stare back at me)
* Season with salt and pepper inside and out
* Roll the outside in cornmeal
* Wrap the seasoned and cornmealled trout with 2 or 3 strips (rashers if you are Canadian)
* Fry in a bit of bacon fat until the bacon is cooked.
* Thin strips of bacon works best if you like your bacon more crispy than chewy.
* If you try it please let me know what you think.


Also, Dave has been to Gillette Wy., and yes, Gillette is where dreams go to die.

Headlines

Shocking new info-NOT!

“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wise people so full of doubts.” - Bertrand Russell

The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where people believe that they are smarter and more capable than they actually are, meaning that some low skill people lack the ability to recognize their own incompetence leading them to overestimate their own capabilities. This often leads to what I call, “talking out of your ass.”

The reason I’m going on about this is a recent study in the journal Nature which found that extreme opponents of genetically modified food know the least about genetic engineering, but think they know the most. The lead author of the study, Phil Fernbach, said, “Extreme views often stem from people feeling they understand complex topics better than they do.” Fernbach said that the results, while “perverse,” are “consistent with previous research on the psychology of extremism.”

In the study, they asked participants how much they oppose genetic modification of food, and over 90% of the people had some level of opposition. They were then asked to rate their knowledge of genetic modification via a short test of true-false questions, the results of which led the study’s authors to say, “As extremity of opposition to GM foods increased, objective knowledge of science and genetics decreased, but self-assessed knowledge increased. They went on to say: Those with the strongest anti-consensus views are the most in need of education, but also the least likely to be receptive to learning; overconfidence about one’s knowledge is associated with decreased openness to new information.” His team’s findings held across education levels, and for people on both sides of the political aisle.

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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 220 - The One Where We Sacrifice Jenn To A Deamon... Dialer. https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-220/ Fri, 25 Jan 2019 14:00:18 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36721 In This Week’s Show, episode 220, we robo-dial Jim Baker to ask about serving Prayer-see, Sage, Rosemary, & Thyme slop at the next showing of Hamilton. In This Week’s Show, episode 220, we robo-dial Jim Baker to ask about serving Prayer-see, Sage, Rosemary, & Thyme slop at the next showing of Hamilton.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Sheela Na Gigs the Irish "old hag of the breasts" hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week i learned that gender is just a scam invented by the bathroom companies in the 60’s to sell more bathrooms.



Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know Sheela Na Gigs is depicted as a woman with an exposed and exaggerated vulva? Popular myths claim she was a lustful pagan goddess who threw herself at men by showing them her `lady parts,’ which most refused, but for the few who threw her a bone, she would transform into a beautiful young woman and make them kings.

Also, you could park a car in there…

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Donated by: RW

Beer - Jubelale from Deschutes


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2QSBN1P
* BA Rating: 3.9/5
* Style: Winter Ale
* ABV: 6.7
* Aaron: 5
* Shea: 3
* Steve: 2


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New patron Ryan (Gosling mmmm…~Jenn)

iTunes review from plantainechip in Belgium from December 23. I can’t access it.

Title: Love this podcast

From: platainechip

Country: Belgium

Definitely one of my favorites. Whenever these guys upload an episode my day is made. I love that w4w is funny as hell but can be serious when they need to be. No matter what episode you choose to listen too I guarantee you will have a great time.

We also got a review from some guy named Tom and his buddy Cecil - See CogDis for that!

And you want to buy Jim or WyoAIDS some aloe vera for that burn, visit WyoAIDS.org and make a donation to help Wyomingites in need.

Voicemails! from the Napkin Pope!

Amanda, we’re sorry we’ll miss you at Drag Queen Bingo too! If you, or anyone else, does want to make the event it’s April 27th. And if you’re boyfriend manages to make it, we’ll very much buy him a beer because of Jesus-fucking-Christ… Be safe, be strong, you can do it!

Thanks to Jesse for using his birthday FB fundraiser for WyoAids. Check our FB page if you would like to celebrate it with him. It’ll be up for a week after this airing and it’s pinned at the top of our page.

And finally, a bit of follow up: Dine and dash asshole Paul Guadalupe Gonzales, whom you may remember from our story in Episode 201, pleaded no contest in November to three counts of defrauding an innkeeper and one of petty-theft. He is now serving a 120-day sentence in jail, followed by three years of probation, barred from dating sites, paying of restitution and had to stay 100 yards away from five restaurants. Fuck him.

Hotshots

Shea- A new product at Costco has Jim Bakker worried about his bottom line.

http://bit.ly/2W6083b

Costco the bulk warehouse superstore has recently been selling 27 pound Mac and cheese buckets that reportedly keep for 20 years. At $89.99, you get 180 servings of Chef’s Banquet Macaroni & Cheese, which the company says will remain edible for up to 20 years. That means you could still be enjoying this macaroni and cheese long after the great Cheeto ends the world. Unfortunately at the time of writing the powdered gold is currently on back order. Reviews on Costco's website are mostly good with one reviewer serving a whole bucket of Mac and cheese at his wedding. The one major complaint is from an American grandfather upset that it only comes in 25lbs and nothing larger for his grandson.]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 219 - The One Where Andi Travels The World-Disk To Do Our Hair! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-219/ Fri, 18 Jan 2019 14:00:17 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36710 In This Week’s Show, episode 219, we’re joined by the lovely Andi of ReasonCon3 to set sail on a magical, wish-granting, racist boat… but at least it has free beer? In This Week’s Show, episode 219, we’re joined by the lovely Andi of ReasonCon3 to set sail on a magical, wish granting, racist boat… but at least it has free beer?
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Silenus (the head satyr in Dionysus’ retinue) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Last we heard from the Yeti he was frolicking on Spaceship Earth in Epcot.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know Silenus is often pictured drunkenly riding a donkey? He had a temple in Elis where the personification of drunkenness, Methe, is handing his statue a glass of wine.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Beer - Blacksmith from Village Brewing

Donated: DodSno


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2QSFvbS
* BA Rating: 3.55
* Style: American Black Ale
* ABV: 5.4
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 9
* Steve: 9


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

We’re joined by Andi!

Voicemail from Charles

I just listened to your show where you sampled Bell’s 2 Hearted ale. The name and label give a nod to Hemingway’s Story and the actual river in the upper peninsula of Michigan famous for its trout. I have actually fished the river and followed the recipe for Hemmingway’s trout.

~ Dave

Finally, we have a very special birthday happening on the date of airing.

HotShots

Let’s Sail The 7 Sees… Wait.

http://bit.ly/2QEa9Rn

Flat Earthers are at it again. This time, it’s a feet usually reserved for sassy sailors and 80-year-old singles. That’s right, it’s the 2020 Flat-Earth Cruise! Billed as their “biggest, boldest, best adventure yet!” The article kind of made it sound like “rapper” B.o.B. and Tila Tequila will be there too… for… celebrity… I guess. Oh, and did we mention that “ships navigate based on the principle that the Earth is round,” said Henk Keijer, a former cruise ship captain. “Nautical charts are designed with that in mind: that the Earth is round.” Keiher, now a forensic marine expert for Robson Forensic cited the 24 satellites orbiting Earth that provide the ship - and the rest of us - with GPS data. As the name implies, the process of triangulation used by GPS satellites to determine your location requires three points of reference to do so, so, “had the Earth been flat, a total of three satellites would have been enough to provide this information to everyone on Earth. But it is not enough, because the Earth is round.” The group wants to avoid the implications of… facts… by staffing the ship with Flat-Earthers, unfortunately, “I have sailed 2 million miles, give or take,” Keijer says, “I have not encountered one sea captain who believes the Earth is flat.”

Jenn’s Wishes Granted!

http://bit.ly/2QJ7tlo

Astute listeners will recall a comment Jenn made last week wishing she had the super-cool mutant power of “never hearing the men in her life.” Well, good news everyone! In what I can only assume is a breakthrough for women everywhere, a Chinese woman identified as Ms. Chen awoke this week able to hear her surroundings and female friends, but not her boyfriend. She rushed to Qianpu hospital where a female doctor, Dr. Lin Xiaoqing analyzed for reproduction… I mean… for curing, her condition. "She was able to hear me when I spoke to her, but when a young male patient walked in, she couldn't hear him at all." The night before Chen had suffered from a nauseating ringing in her ears, but the article doesn’t say what her boyfriend was on about… or what his name is. Doctors were initially puzzled by the symptoms, but once the doctor-dude-bros left the room the diagnosis of “reverse-slope hearing loss” was...]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 218 - The One Where We Welcome You To 2019 With Extra Digression! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-218/ Fri, 11 Jan 2019 14:00:06 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36700 In This Week’s Show, episode 218, we’re back, it’s a new year and a new show, stick around to find out if it’ll be the same ol’bullshit. Spoiler alert, it’s a story show so… In This Week’s Show, episode 218, we’re back, it’s a new year and a new show, stick around to find out if it’ll be the same ol’bullshit. Spoiler alert, it’s a story show so…
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Shekhina (the original mother goddess of Judaism) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that, even though we take it for granted, a single dorito has more extreme nacho flavor than peasants in the 1400’s would get in their whole life time.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that, at its conception, Judaism had a goddess counterpart to Yahweh? Shekhina was the compassionate, loving, visible and protective spiritual presence who defended humanity from the harsh and angry male Jehovah God.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Two-Hearted Ale - Bell’s Brewery Steve E.

Donated By: Steve E. (Thank you DodSno for verifying that for us on the last 4MBS)


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2BM96cH
BA Rating: 4.27
* Style: American IPA
* ABV: 7%
* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 8
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 6


Bonus Beer

Loney Wyoming’s Crowler

Atlantic City Gold - Lander Brewing Co.


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2D3GKfR
* BA Rating: 3.36/5
* Style:  German Kölsch
* ABV: 4.6%
* Seems to have an off flavor…


This Week’s Show

A Very Special Round Table Discussion

Happy 2019!

Patrons


* Newest beer club member Lorraine!
* And new patron Gwyneira Brahma! (good luck with that one, Aaron)
* And a big ‘welcome back’ to patron Rex Tuesday.
* Correction vm from George about Michigan State & Larry Nasshole, thanks George!
* Christmas vm from Dav and Reb
* Drunk dial from Phil


And now presents!!

First Half

Hotshots

Funny X-mas story by Boston Guy.

Shea will love this… I say we just let him speak for himself.

http://bit.ly/2D3GKMT

What Does 2019 Have In Store For Us?

Jemima Packington, the world’s foremost … and only … Asparamancer has again used her gifts to benefit us all by revealing what 2019 has in store. In the past, she’s “correctly” according to Express.co.uk, Brexit, the Trump administration, some football match victories, and even managed to foresee a few losers in Big Brother Britain. When asked about her gifts, she said “when I cast the asparagus, it creates patterns and it is the patterns I interpret” concluding “I take what I do seriously but I never take myself seriously.” Which is good, because her business cards say “Asparamancer.” She says she’s mostly right “I go through my predictions each year and think: 'Yep, that's happened, yep, that's happened. ”I am usually about 80-90 percent accurate with my predictions.” So what does the asparagus see in our future? Apparently, Brexit won’t be a big deal… making her previous prediction a tease I guess? Also, there’s going to be a recession in America because of the trade war with China. Some British bands will break up, we don’t know which ones though. Maybe it’s the Beatles. They’re British. And England will win the 2019 Rugby World Cup. So that’s nice. Finally, 2019 might just be the year this woman’s family gets her the help she clearly needs…

http://bit.ly/2D3GLAr

Second Half

Story

Life goals are stupid and I’m done with them.

http://bit.ly/2D1Q583

Did anyone here make any New Year's Resolutions?
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Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Welcome You To 2019 With Extra Digression! yes 1:09:28
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 217 - The One Where We Have A Miller And Go All Year One https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-217/ Fri, 04 Jan 2019 14:00:05 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36687 Welcome to the New Years clip show! This is a look back at (roughly) our first year. Clips range from the early teens to around fifty. Thanks to everyone for listening and a special thanks to the Patrons for helping us unfuck the audio! Happy New Year all! Welcome to the New Years clip show! This is a look back at (roughly) our first year. Clips range from the early teens to around fifty. Thanks to everyone for listening & Happy New Year! Well... today if you want to look through the back catalog. All the show notes follow the same format, waiting4wrath.com/w4w-###, pop in the show number and there ya go. There's a search too I guess but it kinda sucks (which is why it's not long for the world, there be updates on the horizon!).




Welcome to the New Years clip show! This is a look back at (roughly) our first year. Clips range from the early teens to around fifty. Thanks to everyone for listening and a special thanks to the Patrons for helping us unfuck the audio! Happy New Year all!



From Episode 31, The Beast Grand Cru
Avery Brewing Company Colorado, United States
Beer DB: http://bit.ly/1KMUny0

BA Rating: 87
Style: Belgian Strong Dark Ale. 0
ABV: 16.83% ABV
A: 0
WJ: 0
St: 0
Sh: Oh god why

From Episode 32, Ghost Face Killah
Twisted Pine Brewing Company
Colorado, United States
Beer DB: http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/23/65230/

BA Rating: 70
Style: Chile Beer
ABV: 5.00% ABV
* Just wow... fuck.

From Episode 49, with X of Utah Outcasts!
Cocks not Glocks: Dildos to replace guns at UT-Austin campus carry protest

UT-Austin students will hold a "strap in" protest against campus carry on Aug. 24, 2016 by carrying dildos to class in violation of the campus' obscenity policy. (first day of the next fall semester)
Jessica Jin, who set up the Campus (DILDO) Carry event said, "'You're carrying a gun to class? Yeah well I'm carrying a HUGE DILDO,'" Jin says in the group's description. "Just about as effective at protecting us from sociopathic shooters, but much safer for recreational play."
As of today, there are 5500 people signed up to attend.
UT has strict rules against “obscenity” which could get the participants citations
June 1, 2015 SB11 provides that license holders may carry a concealed handgun throughout university campuses
#CocksNotGlocks

Thanks again to X from Utah Outcasts. Check'en out!



From episode 37, Gloria-Face

Sin Free Facebook

So I decided to become an investigative journalist for this weeks story, and the first thing I want to tell you is that I didn’t use Rawstory, Patheos, or any of our other regular news outlets, so suck it! I actually did some work!

To start I had to see this site and the only way you can view profiles and see posts was to join Facegloria… Also, this site is in Portuguese so I feel like I should get some sort of badge for going above and beyond.

Terms and Services

Definition-The FACEGLORIA, figure- themselves as social network Christian values, with free enjoyment to all people, regardless of ethnicity, social class, and religion. Simply for enjoyment purposes. Express consent and framing the provisions outlined in the Terms of Conditions of Use.

According to this, we are free to participate

After making a profile and choosing a username (Waiting 4Wrath) I was brought to a rather boring...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Have A Miller And Go All Year One yes 1:17:10
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 216 - The One Where We Win Fabulously At Being Merry 101 https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-216/ Fri, 28 Dec 2018 14:00:46 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36679 In This Week’s Show, episode 216, we wish you a happy and a merry… blow up gift that’s just for you, like this show! In This Week’s Show, episode 216, we wish you a happy and a merry… blow up gift that’s just for you, like this show!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Beira (the Gaelic Queen of Winter) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that Santa is regretting giving bad children coal now that global warming is threatening his workshop.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Beira, in addition to being the personification of winter, was also the mother to all the Celtic gods and goddesses? She also supposedly created Loch Ness by turning her lazy maid into a river. That got lazy and made a loch?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Beer: Grapefruit Solis, Mike Hess Brewing

Donated By: Steve


* BALink: https:http://bit.ly/2rZ6xzu
* BA Rating: 4.03/5
* Style: American IPA
* ABV: 7.5%
* Aaron: 2
* Jenn: 2
* Jim: 2
* Shea: 2
* Steve: 3


Hammer Imperial Stout, Renegade Brewing

Donated By: Aaron


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2rZ6y6w
* BA Rating: 4.05/5
* Style: American Imperial Stout
* ABV: 9%
* Aaron: 2
* Jenn: 7
* Jim: 7
* Shea: 2
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Hey all, have a happy and merry eh!

Headlines

 

Aaron

Well… at least they didn’t worship it. Or, velcro gloves not included!
Love a good Rocky & Bullwinkle title joke… anyway, all I want for Christmas is to fuck a sheep.

http://bit.ly/2rW5Dnp


Sex dolls shows up a lot in our show, but not as many of those stories are about sex as one might expect. Case in point, you’d think someone in Scotland would be better at identifying sheep — or at least be able to tell which ones are for fucking. Helen Cox, 46, is not so gifted. Her son, however, was gifted … a blow-up sheep to take to school for the nativity scene. The five-year-old, dressed in a dish towel-Keffiyeh and a red robe, was sent home. See, the doll, which had been listed online as “Labreeze kids boys brown shepherd costume inflatable sheep nativity fancy dress outfit,” had a more-anatomically-correct-it-should-be sheep-hole, and was tarted up like a cheap whore, completed painted-on eyelashes and red lips. “I just can’t believe it. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry! How am I going to explain this to his teachers?” the mom of two said. “I told him, ‘you can’t have this sheep, Alfie’ – but he kept asking why so I had to make up a reason,” Cox laughed, explaining that Alfie refuses to give up his new toy. “I told him it didn’t look like a proper sheep because it had a mustache, red lipstick and a bow on its head, but he still wanted to play with it.” She added that she plans to take the sex doll from him soon and claim it was the Elf on a Shelf — cementing what I’m sure won’t at all be years of expensive psycho-sexual elf-sheep centaur-based wellness therapy in Alfie’s future. Finally, in mom’s defense, it really does just look like a cheap, vinyl-plastic, beachball-esque balloon animal, I mean, it doesn’t even look sturdy enough to sodomize…

Totally understandable mistake.



Jenn’s Story: KFC is bringing the war on arteries to the homefront: Introducing the KFC (11 herbs and spices) scented fireplace logs!

http://bit.ly/2CCKx3p


Per the hyperbole-prone KFC website:

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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 215 - The One Where We Fly The Overly-Friendly Skies https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-215/ Fri, 21 Dec 2018 14:00:51 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36620 In This Week’s Show, episode 215, we’re getting our game faces on early so that we record four shows, three bottles of wine, 4 special beers, and a Big Gay Jim in the studio! In This Week’s Show, episode 215, we’re getting our game faces on early so that we record four shows, three bottles of wine, 4 special beers, and a Big Gay Jim in the studio!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ta Tanka (the Great Buffalo Spirit of Native American plains tribes) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that Vic's vapor rub is just spicy vasoline

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Ladies, did you know that Ta Tanka is the patron of ceremonies, health, and provisions, and is the primary guardian of young women and women during menstruation? So when it’s that time of the month just let people know you’re having a visit from Aunt Buffaflo.

Jim’s Good Gay News

Watch Dumplin on Netflix

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Best Brown Ale - Bell’s Brewery

Donated By: Steve E. especially for OUR Steve


* BA Link:
* BA Rating: 3.83
* Style: American Brown Ale
* ABV: 5.8
* Aaron: 8
* Shea: 4
* Jim: 3
* Steve: 8
* Jenn: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

A quick announcement about the holidays…

This week’s show is being recorded on more or less our usual production schedule. And so is 4 More Beers episode 26 for Patrons. Actually, we’re recording that a little later today… and… then we’re going to record 216 and 217. This will be the first time we’ve ever recorded so much in advance of the airdate but the holidays can be a busy time for four people to get together on the weekly and then have homework as well. We’ve done our homework extra well and I think the next few shows will be just what you want to have stuck in your stockings… yeah. But we won’t have new patron, email, or voicemail announcements in the next few episodes because those things will happen in the future, as of now, but the past when you hear those shows. Confused? You won’t be after this episode of Waiting 4 Wrath…

New patrons Kevin, his brother David and his other brother David.

Still the best
By David the Oxford
Rating: ★★★★★

Happy holidays to the best podcast that anybody could ever hope for. Beer and brains and laughter. Thanks for being a part of my life this year. I hope others will give you a try. They will enjoy.

~ Jessie from Jersey!

Email from Reb*Ox, enjoy that music!

Headlines

HL1 - Steve Lines Are Back!

There’s an entity in the US called The American Center for Law and Justice. At first glance, this sounds like it would be a good thing, working to ensure that our constitutional rights are being protected and fighting for the “little guy”. But this is Waiting 4 Wrath, and that’s not the kind of thing we talk about is it? No, this piece of shit organization was founded by Pat Robertson as a conservative watchdog group. Notice how their initials are eerily similar to the ACLU, which is not an accident. They’re known for losing such grandstanding bullshit cases as supporting prayer during sporting events, supporting a student who was denied a scholarship to study religion and trying to get rid of buffer zones around abortion clinics.

Well, now they’ve turned their efforts to prevent children from learning to handle stress, calm down, and concentrate on school work. Evil. Evil I tell you. The program in question is mostly based on Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction, a scientifically-validated program developed by clinicians, in which audio recordings are used to guide students through stress-reduction practices. The problem, you see, is that it looks like Buddhist meditation and not like bowing your head and ...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Fly The Overly-Friendly Skies yes 1:08:23
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 214 - The One Where We Join Unicron's Utopian Unicorns Unlimited https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-214/ Fri, 14 Dec 2018 14:00:32 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36605 In This Week’s Show, episode 214, we travel to the worst hotel for the worst date with the worst nuns at the worst conference for the worst ideas with the worst people. In This Week’s Show, episode 214, we travel to the worst hotel for the worst date with the worst nuns at the worst conference for the worst ideas with the worst people.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while TaiTai (the Maori god of hunger) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that  people with beards are just people without beards with beards.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that scientists in Australia proved this year a weird phenomenon that Aborigines had long reported? Predatory birds known as ‘fire raptors’ (which actually includes at least 3 different species) have been starting dangerous bushfires intentionally by flying with lit branches in their beaks and talons. So, white folks have finally caught up to what Aboriginal peoples have been observing for approx. 40,000 yrs.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Beer - Periwinkle Dragon from Alley Kat

Donated By: DodSno (Bryce)


BA Link: http://bit.ly/2Ae3reD
BA Rating: 3.95/5
Style: American Imperial IPA
ABV: 7.5
Aaron: 6
Jenn: 8
Shea: 8
Steve: 3


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patron David

Texts!

Dave the Ox, guzzling old Rasputin, at least at Christmastime. We look forward to your drunk dial and review!

Mystery WyoTexter - this episodes for you, here’s to hoping this day is better!

Congrats to the guys over at Vulgarity for Charity! They raised like a 120,000 fucking dollars for a good cause! Fun fact, if we could raise roughly the same amount for WyoAIDS they’d be able to provide assistance to every person in Wyoming with HIV/AIDS who is in need, so head over to WyoAIDS.org or click the donate widget on our website and help us out!

Headlines

Well, that’s terrible… - http://bit.ly/2UHJc2n

So Ashley and I stayed at a B&B for her birthday recently. It was great! The owner even put a candle in her omelet. It was a nice surprise. On the other side of the hospitality coin are Faye and Andrew Stephens, whose son Alex died in 2014. Every year there've been traveling to a resort on his birthday as a remembrance. I'm guessing the resort had more resources than a little bnb because instead of a candle the couple's mother, (her mother) who planned the trip had asked for balloons and cake which they were happy to provide ahead of the three people's arrival. The house staff made a ... Well, it's a cake but it's not gonna win any baking contests. They tied a few generic party balloons to it and left flowers on the bed which spelled out "happy birthday Alex, we miss you" next to the cake...  Which was being helped by a full size, clothed, blackface effigy of Alex, with candy tears running down its nightmare-basement-doll-from-Jenn's-last-story face?
Mrs. Baker, who first discovered the effigy, said she was "utterly horrified" and removed the dummy before her friends saw it. "When I walked into the bedroom, all I can describe is a dummy body on the bed," she said "staff had gone through my friend's wardrobe and stuffed the clothes with towels to make it look like a body on the bed. They even put tears down the face and a can of lager in his hand.
"I was absolutely horrified - as you can imagine I was sweating and shaking. We just didn't want our friends to see it.
"I have truly never seen anything like it. I still look at the photographs now and can't believe somebody thought to do that", she said.

Black and White - http://bit.ly/2Bf8eNh

When nuns go bad. St. James Catholic School in Torrance, California,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Join Unicron's Utopian Unicorns Unlimited yes 1:12:25
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 213 - The One Where We Learn We're Agnostic https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-213/ Fri, 07 Dec 2018 14:00:47 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36599 In This Week’s Show, episode 213, we fly the too-friendly skies right into the heart of Australia’s elderly, puck-wielding, pladipy-pugilist parade, to find out why Everyone’s Agnostic. In This Week’s Show, episode 213, we fly the too-friendly skies right into the heart of Australia’s elderly, puck-wielding, pladipy-pugilist parade, to find out why Everyone’s Agnostic.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Ammon (the North African counterpart of Zeus) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned you can tell someone to have a nice day but if you tell them to enjoy the next 24 hours you always sound threatening.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Ammon was originally an Ethiopian or Libyan divinity, whose worship subsequently spread all over Egypt, a part of the northern coast of Africa, and many parts of Greece?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Dogfish Head India Brown Dark IPA

Donated By:RW


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2AcaO6l
* BA Rating: 4.09/5
* Style: American Brown Ale
* ABV: 7.2
* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 7
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 9


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Coming up is a conversation with Cass of Everyone’s Agnostic

Voicemail: re: sexism from customers

Boosting Jenn!

by EricSinTX on Nov 28, 2018

RATING: ★★★★★

A grand show, very pleasurable and sometimes actually informational.

No new Patrons. Boo, you should sign up for patreon.com/w4w and for as little as a buck an episode you’ll get longer shows with exclusive stories (this week is properly hi-fucking-larious) and free episodes of 4 More Beers! What’s not to love?

Thanks to RW for the influx of new beers!

Everyone’s Agnostic - If you like our second half check out his show at Everyone’s Agnostic!


* http://www.everyonesagnostic.com
* Twitter: evry1sagnostic
* facebook: everyonesagnostic


Update - Dutch Troll isn't allowed to change his age to 20 years younger no matter how young his doctors say he looks. In a press statement, the court added: “Mr. Ratelband is at liberty to feel 20 years younger than his real age and to act accordingly. But amending his date of birth would cause 20 years of records to vanish from the register of births, deaths, marriages and registered partnerships. This would have a variety of undesirable legal and societal implications.”

HotShots

Youporn Wants The D

The D for Dunkin that is. http://bit.ly/2ATd2Ib

Starbucks just announced it's blocking customers from watching porn while on their free WiFi, this after mounting pressure from the Internet safety group, Enough is Enough. A petition by anti-porn group Enough Is Enough has garnered over 26,000 signatures, which makes some strong accusations against the company for the potential repercussions of allowing porn to flow free across the public WiFi.

"Starbucks is keeping the doors wide open for convicted sex offenders and patrons to fly under the radar from law enforcement and use free, public WiFi services to view or distribute graphics or obscene pornography, child pornography (an illegal crime), or engage in sexual predation activity," the petition statement reads.

Enough Is Enough has been campaigning for over two years for Starbucks to act after the company said it would follow in the footsteps of fellow chain McDonald's, which blocked access to porn sites using its WiFi in 2016.

So as of January first, 2019, all pornographic content will be filtered. "To ensure the Third Place remains safe and welcoming to all,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Learn We're Agnostic yes 1:03:09
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 212 - The One Where Jerk-Bird Evolves Into Thanosaurus-Pecs https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-212/ Fri, 30 Nov 2018 14:00:36 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36594 In This Week’s Show, Episode 212, Jenn’s away so we ordered Chinese food and I’m pretty sure I ate one of Shea’s largely footed cousins. In This Week’s Show, Episode 212, Jenn’s away so we ordered Chinese food and I’m pretty sure I ate one of Shea’s largely footed cousins.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Jenn hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience… fucking constantly.
Shea’s Life Lesson
This week I learned that it's inappropriate to ask the parents of a kid on a leash if it's a rescue.
Jenn’s Actual Lesson
This week Jenn learned...things I'm sure. But we won't hear about it ‘till next week. Don't worry though, she read our notes and gave us the approval to proceed without her this week!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!
This Week’s Beer
Jack Mormon Pale Ale

Donated By: Marie (Lonely Wyoming)

BA Link: http://bit.ly/2AbXPBJ
BA Rating: 3.4/5
Style: Pale Ale
ABV: 5.5
Aaron: 6
Shea: 6
Steve: 4

This Week’s Show
Thanos visits to Uganda to preach to coked up swans

Round Table Discussion

As you no doubt noticed, Jenn is out of the studio tonight but sends greetings to you all. Hopefully, today’s iTunes reviews will bring her back from the brink of… well of not being here.

No new Patrons, boo! Help us out and get longer shows and episodes of 4 More Beers at http://patreon.com/w4w! 

iTunes

Love the beer reviews and… 5/5
November
The banter. Nice listening while drinking my own beer.
Faith in humanity restored… 5/5
Sir_HairyPalms
In the desolate wastes of biblefuck nowhere in deepest, darkest, Trumpbekistan resides a group of sarcastic, mouthy, uncensored, beer swilling, gawd denyin heathens. And I love 'em! The 4wrath crew are smart, funny, and kind people who are living life the right way by supporting worthy causes, pissing off religious lunatics, and drinking beer! Listen to this podcast! Because while Marti, the Goddess of all things fabulous in Wyoming, hasn't struck you down yet you are trying her patience.
- Sir HairyPalms The Blind

Updates

Satanic Temple and Netflix have come to a settlement regarding the suit the Satanic Temple brought against Netflix using their Baphomet Statue in the show Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. Details aren’t completely known, but according to Lucien Greaves, Netflix will change credits of the four episodes to acknowledge the unique elements of the statue.
Headlines
HL1 - 20 years younger?
Listen to find out how! -  http://bit.ly/2Ay2cHt

A 68-year-old retired man in the Netherlands has come up with an ingenious way to become 20 years younger. Dutch entrepreneur Emile Ratelband is hoping he will be able to change his date of birth from 11 March 1949 to 11 March 1969 after his doctors said he had the body of someone more than 20 years younger than himself. He argues that if transgendered people can change their gender then he should be able to change his age. Makes perfect sense, right?

Mr. Ratleband a self-professed self-help guru - who described himself as a "young god" - is taking action against his local authority after it refused to change his age on official documents.

“You can change your name. You can change your gender. Why not your age? Nowhere are you so discriminated against as with your age." He claims.

Mr. Ratleband also claims that his legal age has had a negative impact on his employment opportunities as well as his love life.

He said: "When I'm 69, I am limited. If I'm 49, then I can buy a new house, drive a different car. I can take up more work.

"When I'm on Tinder and it says I'm 69, I don't get an answer. When I'm 49, with the face I have, I will be in a luxurious position.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Jerk-Bird Evolves Into Thanosaurus-Pecs yes 1:06:28
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 211 - The One Where We Give Thanks To Wombats https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-211/ Thu, 22 Nov 2018 18:32:05 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36567 This Week’s Show, episode 211, presents a feast of stories for your holiday consumption. So, sit back, unbutton your pants, and pretend we’re football! This Week’s Show, episode 211, presents a feast of stories for your holiday consumption. So, sit back, unbutton your pants, and pretend we’re football! Patreon cut of the show! Hopefully, those of you needing a little extra distraction from crazy uncle nutter will appreciate some wombatty goodness. Enjoy!

This Week’s Show, episode 211, presents a feast of stories for your holiday consumption. So, sit back, unbutton your pants, and pretend we’re football!

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Tezcatlipoca, the Aztec god of the night sky, memory and time, hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that left-handed people have a better chance at finishing a test on time, than people with no hands.

Also, Jenn cheats at cards.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Wonder why I chose Tezcatlipoca as our god this week? Turns out he often took the form of a turkey and when represented in human form he’s usually depicted wearing a white turkey feathered headdress, and was sometimes referred to as ‘Precious Turkey’.

Happy Thanksgiving!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Michigan Amber from Big Lake Brewing

From: Steve E, (this is Aaron’s beer)


* Style: Amber Ale
* ABV: 5.7
* Link: http://bit.ly/2zpIbC5
* Aaron: 9
* Jenn: 8
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Patrons! Sir Hairy Palms the Blind is a new patron. Sorry about that vision condition eh, it’s hard to control the effects all this sexy…

No iTunes reviews… you should leave us one, dear listener. If you’re dedicated enough to be reading this you’re exactly the kind of person we need to visit iTunes and tell us how wonderful we are. And while you’re at it, why not sign up for Patreon.com/w4w and 4 More Beers episode 25 that will drop this week.

Jenn - From last week’s awful birthing-in-the-wild story: Thanks to Dustin of Atheist Nomads and Steve from Milburn for writing in as dads who, along with their partners, used medical means to bring forth their kids. So with our sample size, seems that’s the way to go. Also, Steve pointed out that his wife had a C-section with their first and a natural with the second, so it IS possible to do safely. Thanks for that correction! (He also says thanks for bringing back the goddamn headlines, sorry to disappoint this week, but it’s a story show, so that’s close eh.)

Also, Dustin, I apologize for frightening you with a few of my more recent stories...stay tuned bc this episode is safe, at least for one of ours.

Hot Shots

Women in Science!

A group of young women in Kyrgyzstan is crowdfunding the country’s first satellite launch http://bit.ly/2Ag5T46

Lots of countries have space agencies. Kyrgyzstan isn’t one of them. It’s also kind of a shit place to be a lady, what with the rife domestic violence, child marriage, and bridal kidnappings. Bektour Iskender, a journalist and TED presenter started a robotics course for women in Bishkek, the capital, with the intention of launching a satellite. They’re using Patreon to crowdfund the project with the ultimate goal of launching a $150k CubeSat. CubeSats tiny, easy to build (for a rocket engineer anyway) satellites that are designed for researchers and small organizations, and are typically launched with a NASA rocket through one of their programs. The program met its first goal of 500$/m which allowed them to get a 3D printer and get to work. The next goals are 2500 and 5000$ for an Earthbound test device, and then the launch respectively. The project has garnered attention from women in STEM the world over, even seeing predominate women of science like American Astronaut Peggy Whitson who is giving 1024$ a...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Give Thanks To Wombats yes 1:18:27
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 210 - The One Where We Snatch Donuts From The Hairy Palms Of Free-Bakers https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-210/ Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:00:40 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36560 In This Week’s Show, episode 210, we dunk our globe-nut in gravity-goop so gassy cows pray the skunk away. In This Week’s Show, episode 210, we dunk our globe-nut in gravity-goop so gassy cows pray the skunk away
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Solboni (the god of the dawn for the Buryat people) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if our ass was split horizontally, it would clap when you ran down the stairs.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Freddie Mercury was raised in the Zoroastrian faith? Also, go see Bohemian Rhapsody.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

German Chocolate Cake from TallGrass Brewing

From: RW


* BA: 3.78/5
* Style: English Sweet/Milk Stout
* ABV: 5%
* Link: http://bit.ly/2SLUjpQ
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 8
* Shea: 7
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

We Got One! - Welcome patron BilltheBloody

RIP Stan Lee.

Sad news as Stan “the man” Lee has joined Steve Ditko and Jack Kirby.

Listeners know how much we love comics and Marvel in particular but I want to take a moment and talk about the impression Marvel’s left on me. I was lucky to grow up on Lee’s heroes rather

than religious idols. Marvel never shied away from the difficult topics and they never waved them with away with platitudes or excuses. Lee’s heroes planted themselves like the tree of truth and told the world to move. And it did. The original animated X-Men, a not-so-subtle foil for minority rights, toward the end of episode 2 “night of the sentinels” presents the idea clearly, Storm attempts to explain the anti-mutant bigotry often expressed in X-Men the same way we see homophobia now in bakeries and ex-county clerk’s offices, to a young Jubilee. I never forgot her lesson. Now, almost every time I see some homophobic, racist, misogynist, nutcase in the show’s news feed railing against what they just know to be wrong I hear her voice, and through her Stan’s message; don’t succumb to fear of the unknown. Or, from Stand directly, “I wanted them to be diverse. The whole underlying principle of the X-Men was to try and be an anti-bigotry story to show there’s good in every person.”

X-Men “Why Do People Hate Us?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baFXQiooens

Updates

The Satanic Temple has filed the lawsuit against Netflix over the statue claiming that the “Defendants misappropriated the TST Baphomet Children in ways implying the monument stands for evil. Among other morally repugnant actions, the Sabrina Series’ evil antagonists engage in cannibalism and forced-worship of a patriarchal deity”. The lawsuit seeks $150 million in damages.

Also, the Church of Satan wants to make it abundantly clear that they are separate from TST and have no issue with how Netflix displayed Baphomet.

Amy Kremer, a co-founder of the Women Vote Trump PAC, told MSNBC Sunday she does believe violence has entered into the country’s political discourse, pointing blame solely at liberal activists. She particularly took issue with a Brooklyn bookstore’s repeated rituals where witches have planned to place a “hex” on Kavanaugh. Kremer criticized the event as yet another left-wing attack on conservatives. “It is a scary time right now,” she said. “Now you’ve got witches that are placing a hex on Brett Kavanaugh.” so somehow this is still unfolding. How long until agent orange sets up a hex force?

HotShots

Just Pray For A Rainbow Ok! - http://bit.ly/2TgGr7p

And yes, I am talking about “the gay.” Florida-Doctor-Man, homophobic piece of shit, and - big shocker here - a hypocritical piece of shit, Norman Goldwasser made headlines this week by t...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Snatch Donuts From The Hairy Palms Of Free-Bakers yes 1:03:56
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 209 - The One Where We Manage To Stay On Topic https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-209/ Fri, 09 Nov 2018 14:00:22 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36550 In This Week’s Show, episode 209, Aaron’s away so the cast will play. Now enjoy those stickers you got on Election Day. Let’s hope this election doesn’t go the same way. In This Week’s Show, episode 209, Aaron’s away so the cast will play. Now enjoy those stickers you got on Election Day. Let’s hope this election doesn’t go the same way.
You did get a sticker right? Right!

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Manabozho (the dominant Algonquin trickster god) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that the legal name of Sloppy Joe is Untidy Joseph.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that unlike the more well known Native American trickster god, Coyote, Manabozho was actually known as The Great Hare. Sorta the Native Bugs Bunny.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Half-Tanked Hefeweizen from Lander Brewing


* From: Marie (lonely Wyoming)
* Style: German Hefeweizen
* ABV: 5.4%
* UT: 3.69/5
* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2SDThfS
* Aaron: sad panda
* Jenn: 8
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Still, fuck all - seriously, someone send us something!

• Twitter: @4Wrath
• Facebook: Facebook.com/Waiting4Wrath
• Email: Podcast@Waiting4Wrath.com
• Drunk Dial: (513) 760–0463

Headlines

Billing Cancer Quacks - http://bit.ly/2T0Un5B

Dawn Kali had breast cancer and instead of going to an Oncologist, she decided to see the best-selling author of “The pH Miracle”, Robert O. Young. Unsurprisingly, Young is not a doctor of anything. In fact, he has no post-high school degrees of any kind from any accredited school. He’s simply a charleton who has managed to convince dum dums that he can treat their illnesses. Well, this got him arrested, convicted, and imprisoned for practicing medicine without a license. He’s currently serving a three year,8-month sentence.

Back to Dawn Kali though. After Young promised to cure her cancer without surgery, chemotherapy or radiation she spent thousands of dollars for treatments

consisting of “cleansing her blood”, avoiding sugars, messages, colonic therapy, and

baking soda infusions. This didn’t work and cancer spread to her bones and which time she finally saw the light and went to an actual doctor. Then she sued that motherfucker Young.

After only three hours of deliberation, the jury agreed that Young is a fuckhead greedy narcissist and awarded Kali $1Mil. for medical expenses, $89.5Mil for future pain and suffering, and finally $15Mil. in punitive damages. The better news is that Kali, in spite of the sham treatments she received at first, is on the road to recovery with a life expectancy of four years and hoping the chemo and actual medicine will save her life.

The Chilling Adventures of Baphomet

The new Netflix Warner brothers series The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina has recently come under fire from the Satanic Temple after a familiar statue can be seen early in the fourth episode. The statue in the series bears a striking resemblance to the traveling Baphomet featured on the show numerous times, typically in response to politicians being idiots and overstepping their bounds.

It may surprise some of you that there isn't just a standard Baphomet statue like there is of the Jesus. The only other notable Baphomet image is an 1856 drawing by Eliphas Lévi. And that image looks nothing like the statue. The drawing features a winged demon with lovely knockers and a similar head.



According to Lisa Soper, the production designer of Sabrina, who before Grieves tweeted their intent, said, the show’s statue was not modeled after TST’s. “I think that’s kind of a coincidence…,” Sopher said.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Manage To Stay On Topic yes 1:02:41
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 208 - The One Where We Water Down Our Minty Rage! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-208/ Fri, 02 Nov 2018 13:00:11 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36537 In This Week’s Show, episode 208, we take the patrons out for calamari sammiches with a side of homeo-drolic robo-cock spiders. In This Week’s Show, episode 208, we take the patrons out for calamari sammiches with a side of homeo-drolic robo-cock spiders.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Yal-un ele (the Mongolian mother of fire) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that shirts are crazy, your body goes in one hole and comes out three!

Or

Aren't public pools the first widely accepted gender-neutral bathroom?

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know octopuses have three hearts and blue blood?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Beer - Meadjito from FallenTimber brewing


* From: Dod Snow
* Style: Mead/Hydromel
* ABV: 5.5%


Rate Beer: 3.2 out of 5

Link: http://bit.ly/2z7cSvF

Per the website: In Alberta’s foothills, our bees constantly work to provide a perfect base for the meticulously crafted contents of this bottle -- made just for you... Combining our honey with fresh mint & lime provides a light, refreshing, naturally gluten-free mojito. Swirl before opening as the Meadjito is unfiltered. Enjoy over ice!


* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 5
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 9


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

iTunes update from the lovely RebOx

Very Fun! Feels like family!

by Rebel*Ox on Oct 27, 2018

RATING: ★★★★★

Funny and smart. Feels like sitting down with a friends. It's one of the podcasts I look forward to every week

And the saga of the cheesesteaks enters its second month: VM from Alan and a couple of messages from Freethinker, if you’re interested in how to taco a pizza-steak listen to this week’s Patreon outtake segment. Yeah, patrons get more outtakes, just saying...

Shea and Jenn will be joining the Zachriledge podcast, live, immediately following this: http://bit.ly/2zjGgPt

Hot Shots…

Pyrophobia vs. Arachnophobia - http://bit.ly/2zvvupJ

Nothing can quite ruin a relaxing day alone like black widows can. The spider not ScarJo, she ruins nothing. A California man was enjoying a nice evening house-sitting for his parents when he discovered the spider, instead of opting for a reasonable weapon like some toilet paper or a rolled up magazine this gentleman reached for a blowtorch. As expected things quickly escalated as spiders deal with fire slightly better than houses do. Eventually, around 30 firefighters responded to the spider-related fire. Even though the second story of the home and the attic were damaged by the flames, the fire was put out quickly, and the man was able to get out unharmed. The Fresno City firefighters' account tweeted out a common sense message to their residents in light of this bizarre incident. “Please don't use a blowtorch to kill spiders.” no word on of the spider made it out or whether the spiders family are plotting revenge. It might be best to just burn the fucker down.

Database of Fail - http://bit.ly/2zkUGyS - New database is live. Not exciting news you say? Well, maybe not, but it’s good news for those who believe that science is the only true way to define our world. The Retraction Watch Database was made specifically to track retractions of studies from scientific journals. This means a journal no longer stands behind the article and it or the study’s author initiated a retraction. This is not a process taken lightly, but it is on the upswing. Before 2000 there were about 100 retractions per year, now it’s more like 1000, but then again the number of published papers has more than doubled from 2003 to 2016.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Water Down Our Minty Rage - Patreon yes 1:05:08
Episode 207 – The One Where We Get All Dolled Up For Halloween! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-207/ Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:00:08 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36520 In This Week’s Show, episode 207, we get spooked by Jenn’s homeopathic anti-vaxx-a-cilin, which does seem to contain actual terror. In This Week’s Show, episode 207, we get spooked by Jenn’s homeopathic anti-vaxx-a-cilin, which does seem to contain actual terror.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Anubis (the Egyptian guardian of the dead) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that they didn't have any unplanned pregnancies at Hogwarts because of the spell "fetus deletus"!

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

See if you can spot tonight’s theme: Did you know that within 3 days of death the enzymes that helped you digest your dinner will begin to eat YOU?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Red Lodge Ale - Bent Nail IPA


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2yt06Ix
* BA Rating: 3.77/5
* Style: American IPA
* ABV: 6.30%
* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 9
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Welcome new Patron King Torm - Who, I assume, is a better, Mr. T-ier version of King Orm.

No iTunes Reviews.

Voicemail!

Freethinker215 had another small correction for me, and once again, he’s correct. It’s not two-fifteen as I said multiple times, it’s a zip code so it’s two one five. I have been duly informed.

Follow up on the tongueless mummy from CraigDeFarmer on Twitter for Jenn:

Uhm... right in he article about the guy without the tongue...
"It appeared clear the flat stone was a replacement for a body part because it had been put in the front of the mouth where the tongue ought to be," he added.
Evidence of infection on the jaw bones supports the theory that the tongue was amputated in life."The mouth is full of bacteria so if a tongue is cut out, an infection is likely to arise," Mays said.
Signs of active infection in the bones indicate the tongue was likely severed months or even weeks before death."He probably died because of the infection following amputation of the tongue," Mays said

Thanks again, Craig. And as I mentioned, despite the fact that I DO read most of the articles I use in full, Steve can always find a question I didn’t think to look for the answer to. And Shea has the question that I just finished answering.

Update on the witches hexing that guy - http://bit.ly/2SmhAyq

Headlines (You asked for it) - Really it’s just Steve’s stories

http://bit.ly/2z4zH3m

It seems that we have a large portion of our population who is doing all they can to make sure they die off. I’m not talking about some gangland murderous bunch of people killing their own in turf wars or ethnic cleansing in the third world, I’m talking about right here at home in the USA. I’m talking about people who should know better, who in most cases were taught better, but who cannot seem to see the truth that’s right in front of them. I’m talking about a group of people who believe that they are the chosen people who rule the land of the free? Who don’t worry about getting enough to eat or clean drinking water (hell, many of them wouldn’t deign to drink tap water anyway). I’m talking about the higher income white people who are refusing to vaccinate their children. It’s like they unconsciously know that their time is over and they are doing what they can to make sure there are no more generations to follow them. These are people who are so tied up in their own minds about what they see as a right that they are incapable of realizing that they are hurting themselves. In this way, they are no different than the zealots who blow themselves up in the name of their superstitions, except, in this case, they are choosing to harm their own children.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Get All Dolled Up For Halloween! yes 1:10:31
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 206 - The One Where We Pre-Game For The Next Live 4 More Beers! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-206/ Fri, 19 Oct 2018 13:00:04 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36508 In This Week’s Show, episode 206, we visit Russia’s North Carolina for broomstick riding homeopathwhiches. In This Week’s Show, episode 206, we visit Russia’s North Carolina for broomstick riding homeopathwhiches.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Saint-Fiacre (the patron saint of gardening and plowboys) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that Vampires can't have babies, not because their sperm is dead like them but because they can't come inside without permission.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson



You probably already knew that humans are genetically similar to pigs (everything from stem cell research, to donor organs, to forensic pathology use piggy parts), but did you know that Chinese geneticists have crossed pig genes with those of a jellyfish, producing piglets whose tongues and trotters glow fluorescent green in UV light? I’m planning a liberation movement, but don’t tell the Chinese.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Long shadow India pale ale
Blindman brewing

Donated By:Bryce Snow


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2A6QhkP
* BA Rating: 4.01/5
* Style: : American IPA
* ABV: 7.1%
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 8
* Shea:10
* Steve:8


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patron: Lindy!

Also, we’re glad to hear that we could help bring some normalcy to a difficult time - or at least our version of it - and we’re especially happy to hear that your mum is doing better! Thanks for supporting the show but also for letting us know that it’s had a positive impact. Podcasters in our niche I think all have a few stories like this and every one is humbling and motivating, so, despite your kind words of appreciation, I must insist that it is indeed our very good pleasure to thank you!

Thanks to Eric S., who is either a railroad spy or modern outlaw, and says train plundering is still pretty common. Per Eric “lots of containers with expensive small items” are frequent thefts.

Message from Freethinker215

Basically, don’t whizz on your food Steve.

Before we dive into hotshots we have a brief correction - for Jenn! It turns out that pre-Viking nordic countries weren’t the rainbowlific fjords of shirtless Thor-y fabulousness she accidentally lead us to believe. It seems Vikings mostly came from Norway and Denmark, not Sweden or Sweden 2, which I’m given to understand is called Swizz-Ur-lend because of a 10,000-year-old decision New Zealand-Batman made. Also, this is why Jenn does emails.

Headlines

The Woman from Methlehem - http://bit.ly/2yodcXD

This story isn’t real and we had to cut it. Which is what happens when Jenn Snopeses something and Shea doesn’t. C’est la vie, but the headline was too good not to include. “Methlehem”, well played Shea.

All that said, this story will air. It was funny as hell if a bit short on the count of being super fake. If you’re interested - and you should be - I’ll be adding it to the outtakes of the next episode of our patron exclusive bonus show, 4 More Beers, Episode 24! Available soon at Patreon.com/W4W

Dehydrating Your You

I think we can all agree alkaline water won’t cure cancer. But I’ve recently discovered what can!
No water!
That’s right, Dry Fasting, which is apparently a thing new-age woos are doing now has become a fad, or at least faddy enough to inspire millions of youtube views and thousands of followers in groups like Hellville to Wellville on facebook. See the idea is to not drink water for like 3 days.
Now, some of you who passed 3rd-grade health-science, or you know, are living people,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Pre-Game For The Next Live 4 More Beers! yes 1:02:34
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 205 - The One Where We Board The Crazy Train To Hooksville - Patreon https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-205/ Fri, 12 Oct 2018 13:00:56 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36494 In This Week’s Show, episode 205, the doctors at WHO bend space and time to stop nazi air purifiers from cleaning China’s fog of death. In This Week’s Show, episode 205, the doctors at WHO bend space and time to stop nazi air purifiers from cleaning China’s fog of death
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Mahuika (the Maorian fire goddess and ancestor of Maui) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that you have to be careful what you wear every day because of you die that's your ghost clothes now.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know, and you would if you have seen Moana, that Maui often assumed the form of a hawk? Per Maorian mythology, the hawk, kahu, was a god of fire, and a child of Mahuika.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

From: RW

Meadowlark - Ole Gus
Scotch-style Ale “Wee Heavy Rye Ale”

http://bit.ly/2OkDS5u


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2ycNXXj
* BA Rating: 3.9/5
* Style: Scotch Ale / Wee Heavy
* ABV: 7%
* Aaron: 3
* Jenn: 2
* Shea: 3
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patreon Evan!

iTunes Update from David the Ox:

Still the best

by David the Oxford on Oct 04, 2018

RATING: ★★★★★

Five stars to the podcast that you wish were your next door neighbors. Funny and talented people who like beer and keeping it real.

 

Listen, drink, laugh, and enjoy

by Odysseus2k7 on Oct 05, 2018

RATING: ★★★★★

I have been a patron of this podcast for over a year and it€™s been worth it. I love the chemistry of the hosts. Jenn is my spirit animal!

FreeThinker is a native of sammich land, so for those interested 215 is apparently the area code for Philly. The more you know…

Another mystery is solved! Our fabulous etched and personalized mugs were brought to us by Duff! Just Duff, he’s like Cher and Fabio… and Duff! (beer)

Thanks for the feedback Mel-burn Steve, Jenn promises to do some headlines but as she said in the email, 3-ish minutes a pop is just about all we’re good for.

Hotshots

Steve - Hot Piss is the Best Piss

http://bit.ly/2A5Wi13

I have a scenario for you. You are on your way to get drug tested, but you’re running a bit late and the fresh pee you’re carrying isn’t warm enough to get you through the test. What do you do? Put in under your arm? Fuck that, too slow. You’re in a hurry so you obviously stop into the local gas station that’s on the way and warm up your urine in the microwave. Does this sound silly? Well, Parul Patel, owner of “On the Fly” convenience store in Jacksonville, FL was facing this exact issue on a daily basis. Due to a continuous issue of, non-customers no less, just using his microwave to warm up piss, he had to put up signs against the practice. Patel said, “We try to stop these kinds of people. They become aggressive with us.” LabCorp, the piss test company down the street, declined to comment.

Damnit. It’s. Air.

http://bit.ly/2A5Wiy5

Living in the mountains I've always had a bit of a chuckle at the cans of air in checkout lines here. Silly lowlanders, you have too much air, it makes your minds sick…

Sick enough to buy New Zealand’s air though? Unlike the cheap, oxygen-rich, altitude “remedies” this will cost you more than a few bucks… 98 more than a few actually. And they won’t help you with anything except smelling an air compressor from the picturesque mountains of almost-Australia. Four cans of the 'Pure Fresh New Zealand Air' were seen on display with a price tag of $98.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Board The Crazy Train To Hooksville - Patreon yes 1:02:05
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 204 - The One Where Goats Lose Their Heads For Kinder Eggs https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-204/ Fri, 05 Oct 2018 13:00:37 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36471 In This Week’s Show, episode 204, we christen a new studio with hot wings, beer, and terrible jokes! In This Week’s Show, episode 204, we christen a new studio with hot wings, beer, and terrible jokes!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Anu-mate (Maori space and death deity) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Samhaim was one of 4 major Celtic seasonal festivals and was the Autumn harvest? It (per the internet) translates from Gaelic to ‘summer’s end’.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Brendon’s Golden Frau - Honey wheat - Thunderhead breweries


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2xZprtx
* BA Rating: 3.41/5
* Style: American Pale Wheat Ale
* ABV: 7.5%
* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 6
* Shea: 4


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

We moved!

Wrathful studios is now located at Radio Row in lovely, downtown, Oakland Cali… wait, no, that’s 99pi… but we did move into a new studio that’s a little more … indoors … so hopefully the temps won’t be such an element. Best of all this new space has allowed us to set up a proper backdrop for Discord video! So if you want to join us live for the next patron only 4 More Beers, make sure you sign up at Patreon.com/w4w - which also gets you longer shows with exclusive patreon only content!

Just like these amazing people!


* Freethinker215
* Am (yep. Am)


No iTunes reviews

Presents! Mugs and beer from Steve E!

It was 307 Craftworks! and you should check out what he does because it’s great!

Hotshots!

Naked Kidnapping For Jehovah God

http://bit.ly/2RqdWmV

Three people arrested in Canada after kidnapping neighbors and driving recklessly in order to avoid the rapture.

The bizarre case first made headlines in November 2017 after the Royal Canadian Mounted Police were called to the scene of a car crash in an industrial park in Nisku, south of Edmonton. On arrival, officers said the group were chanting "Jehovah" and refused to exit the vehicle. Officers added that the people in the SUV “displayed extreme strength”, were unaffected by pepper spray and did not relent when shot with Tasers. (The power of Christ compelled them…)

Apparently, the strange behavior all started a few days before when the suspects traveled to Leduc, Alberta, to visit family. During the three-day gathering, they are believed to have refused to leave the house and barely ate. They eventually came to believe they had lived through the Great Tribulation, a period of suffering which some evangelical Christians believes foreshadows part of the biblical "End Times”.

Believing they were in imminent danger, the group fled the house to find safety and none of the family – except the mother – managed to get dressed. So most of them were naked FYI

They made a pit stop at a neighbor’s house and forced a man, his adult daughter, and her six-week son into their BMW SUV. The man was forced into the boot of the vehicle and his daughter was put in the back seat with her child.

The victims were able to escape after the vehicle slowed down and before the woman driving collided with another car and then crashed into a ditch.

All three adult is scheduled to return to court on 20 December.

Stop Kidding Around… Goats.

http://bit.ly/2zSrEbs

Hundreds of mountain goats in Olympic National Park, WA are being rounded up because they’re basically crack addicts. Having worked in a national park I’m sure Jenn has seen this scourge… piss-drunk goats!]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Goats Lose Their Heads For Kinder Eggs yes 1:05:00
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 203 - The One Where We Play The Ballad of The Dueling Beers! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-203/ Fri, 28 Sep 2018 13:00:37 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36460 In This Week’s Show, episode 203, we mount a mammoth expedition to Arizona’s Nazi country, so we can ‘splain now bananas they are. In This Week’s Show, episode 203, we mount a mammoth expedition to Arizona’s Nazi country, so we can ‘splain now bananas they are.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because while Tlāhuizcalpantecuhtli (I don't know what he is a god of I just want to hear Steve pronounce this) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that “Work Bitch” by Britney Spears was released five years ago. In 2013 the unemployment rate was 7.5% and now in 2018, it's 4%, coincidence? I think not!

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

No Jenn today, she decided to check her blood pressure at the machine in Walmart and got her head stuck in it.
Now she's not allowed back to Walmart and has to hunt and gather her groceries — she is currently in the wilderness getting a gallon of milk.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Dod Snow - dual story beers:
- Farmers daughter


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2N5iKe0
* BA Rating: 3.84/5
* Style: American Pale Ale (APA)
* ABV: 4.5%
* Aaron: 5
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 6



* Fire & fury



* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2o4qgvx
* BA Rating: 3.91/5
* Style: American Amber / Red Ale
* ABV: 5%
* Aaron: 8
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

No new patrons… how will you join us on the Discords if you’re not a patron!?

New show ‘feel/style’ - this week we’re doing something a bit different with the show - but we’re not saying what - let us know if the format/feel/etc of the show seems improved, the same, weird, whatever impression it leaves you with.

Today’s Twitter question:

Is a mini-muumuu just a dress? Also, which pokemon would you make wear it?
Bonus points, if you answered “Yeti-mon” what pattern would best bring out the bloodshot in Shea’s eyes?

Voicemail!

Allen formerly of Pennsylvania.

iTunes!

Do yetis enjoy the company of unicorns?
September 8, 2018, by Beer Club Member Amie W.

First of all, 11/10 stars or BA points or something like that. Speaking of spirit animals! You silly maple syrup loving hoser, Aaron you are my spirit animal. Also, I follow all the anime and just overall nerdcore references that you make. Don’t you worry your pretty art degree head. I have an art degree as well, and now I paint pretty pictures on stripper’s nails for all their dirty dollars (aka I am a nail tech). So I feel your pain with convos with other degree owners as far as that goes. But let’s get to the point here. Mrs. and Mr. Yeti, how much does one have to donate to become your magical unicorn? Asking for a friend..... also officially a Patreoner as of this morning. I would have done it sooner, but procrastination and things. I make everyone at the salon listen to your podcast over the salon speakers as long as there are no scary flat earthers present. (It’s Oklahoma. There are a lot.) Jenn, I grew up in a very, very similar environment as you. As well as the similar college experience. Thank you for opening up about these things. Thank you for being a female example of not allowing the patriarchy to smother your power! Big Gay Jim, I just want to cuddle you and your fam and have play dates with our kids (mine 3). Grandpa Steve, I’m going to be real for a sec. You got that Richard Gere thing going for you. Just saying. Take that however you would like. Aaaaannnndddd SPEAKING OF SUBJECT CHANGE!! Keep doing your thing and get all the drunk!!
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 202 - The One Where We Reiki Our Willy's For Beto https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-202/ Fri, 21 Sep 2018 13:00:15 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36451 In This Week’s Show, episode 202, we learn about the beer that Ted Cruz likes to elbow in the tap, and Jim welcomes Sir Harry Palms the Blind! In This Week’s Show, episode 202, we learn about the beer that Ted Cruz likes to elbow in the tap, and Jim welcomes Sir Harry Palms the Blind!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Hestia (the Greek goddess of the hearth) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that RDJ has a pretty proud drug dealer somewhere.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson Did you know that oxygen has a color? Well, not in its gaseous form, but as a liquid or solid, it appears as pale blue. Sorry, Shea.

Jim’s Good Gay News

Scruff, one of the largest and highest rated gay dating apps, taking on racism by changing how they display ethnicity data and sending messages to users who mention race in their profile. They’re not sure it’s going to work, but they’re trying SOMETHING...and that’s good gay news to me! http://bit.ly/2MKk31T

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Session Series IPL | Omaha’s Brickway Brewery

From: Brendon


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2o5ZpiR
* BA Rating: 3.58/5
* Style: American Pale Lager
* ABV: 5%
* Aaron: 3
* Jenn: 4
* Jim: 4
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

No New patrons / iTunes reviews.

Voicemail!

Steve-E

We just recorded another 4 More Beers! And it was live!

If you missed this month’s live event never fear, you can get 4 More Beers 23 by signing up at patreon.com/w4w where, for as little as a buck a show, you’ll get longer cuts of each episode with at least an exclusive patreon story and you can join us next time, live in Discord, for the next episode of 4 More Beers! Your support makes this show possible and we’re damn near our next patreon goal! Help us get to our next goal and we’ll do something special!

Hotshots

No Sookie, that’s not it at all...

Available now at Patreon.com/w4w!

http://bit.ly/2xqZoLx

There’s a lot of blood woo. Beliefs in its magical ability to do all kinds of things are widespread. Depending on what woo you talk to it can do amazingly good things, or help in terrible and evil magic. But like all things perceived to have special powers, the beauty industry is all over it! There have a been a … rash … of spa treatments called vampire facials lately. See, they take your blood then centrifuge it which, according to Dr. Eshan Ali, is “where it's spun around real fast," separating the platelets from the plasma. The latter, of course, containing all that good junk you want shot back into your face to keep it looking… fresh. I guess. Given that your facemeat already has blood in it, I’m not sure how this is supposed to help. But what I’m pretty sure it’s not supposed to do is give you AIDS. Recently, Mexican VIP Spas decided it was easier to just use the blood they had on hand. Yeah. Unfortunately, they didn’t cut out the middle steps so much as give people HIV/AIDS, Hep B and C, and of course, trauma. The Mexican Health Dept. shut the spa down for the time being and is advising the spa’s clients to go get tested for basically everything. Another great cautionary tale about not accepting the medical advice of people who aren’t in the medical field… also, don’t play with bloody needles. Things I shouldn’t have to say.

Education? Really? From MadMikesAmerica and Phoenix New Times

Arizona State Superintendent Diane Douglas decided that she wanted a biology teacher to be a part of the working group charged with reviewing and editing the states science standards on evolution. The thing is, the person she chose, Dr. Joseph Kezele,]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 201 - The One We Fill Your Headphones With Tainted Love... https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-201/ Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:00:15 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36442 In This Week’s Show, episode 201, Shea’s back but Jim is gone, And Steve finally got those damn kids off studio-lawn. Jenn’s second half is a rush, And I’m well into my role as the show’s lush! Welcome to our second centennial, Sign up on Patreon to join 4 More Beers live on Discord… nial... In This Week’s Show, episode 201, Shea’s back but Jim is gone, And Steve finally got those damn kids off studio-lawn. In This Week’s Show, episode 201, Shea’s back but Jim is gone,
And Steve finally got those damn kids off studio-lawn.
Jenn’s second half is a rush,
And I’m well into my role as the show’s lush!
Welcome to our second centennial,
Sign up on Patreon to join 4 More Beers live on Discord… nial...




Which we think will be this Sunday.
Probably.
That's the direction it's leaning anyway... Make sure you check out http://facebook.com/waiting4wrath, http://twitter.com/4wrath, and of course, http://patreon.com/w4w!


Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Te Kuku (the Maori god of earthquakes) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if someone starts playing Christmas music in September you are legally allowed to kill them and use their corpse as Halloween decorations.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know the Earth appears to have a whole new underground continent called Zealandia? The discovery itself isn’t new – some geologists have been arguing for its existence for many years. However, in 2017 a team of scientists concluded Zealandia fulfills all the requirements to be considered a drowned continent.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Traditional Ale | Big Rock Brewery

From: Dodsnow


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2BCWJmc
* BA Rating: 3.58/5
* Style: English Brown Ale
* ABV: 5%
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 5
* Shea: 6
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Patrons!


* Beer Club Member Amie
* Brian


Voicemails


* Lonely Wyoming


iTunes reviews

Laughter, Beer, and poking fun at Beardy Sky-dad
September 6, 2018 by Justpostthegoddamnreview

I'll save you the trouble of reading reviews. You don't need to weigh the possible merits of this podcast and carefully decide if it's for you. Just subscribe. Like a warm blanket on a cold day or a cold pool on a hot day, this podcast will soothe you from head to toe. Come sit with a group of friends, who'll welcome you happily and hand you some crazy new beer they need help taste testing. Join in with the laughter as they react to so-stupid-they-cannot-possibly-be-true religious stories from all over the world. You will be laughing every moment you're there. And when that sad time comes that the show draws to a close, take solace in the fact that these fine people put out so much new content your podcast queue will literally explode. Like Sisyphus' happier cousin, you'll avoid pushing a rock endlessly up a hill, and instead push condensed joy straight into your ears again and again. But if any of the 30,000 gods they've so far offended turn out to be real, I DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE. Well...except Jenn. In a God vs Jenn fight, my money is on Jenn.

Love this podcast!
September 4, 2018 by Heathens are we
I recently finished listening to the backlog and honestly, I’m sad that I have to wait all week for an episode now lol. I grew up an evangelical Christian and then converted to Mormon when I was 19. My family and I have been non-religious now for 4 years and atheist for about 2. We have slowly but successfully de-indoctrinated ourselves and our children (now 12 and 9) from all the twisted fairytales and bs that is religion. We are proud to raise our newest little addition (now 18 months) completely atheist from the start. Being that we live in Utah, it almost feels like we must stay underground, especially the kids,]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 200 - The One Where Sow Discord To Celebrate Our 200th Show! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-200/ Fri, 07 Sep 2018 13:00:50 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36427 In This Week’s Show, episode 200, we celebrate another amazing milestone by drinking too much and telling terrible jokes! In This Week’s Show, episode 200, we celebrate another amazing milestone by drinking too much and telling terrible jokes!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while The Stormfather, a Splinter of the Almighty, hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

In honor of our 200th episode, did you know that Bacchanals (the form of worship to celebrate the Roman god Bacchus and known for turning into occasions for licentiousness and intoxication), became popular in Rome around 200 BCE?

Jim’s Good Gay News

I wanted to be here so much today that I brought along a studio gremlin. And, in honor of episode 200 we're giving this one to everyone! Enjoy the Patreon cut and thank you for listening!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Portersfield Dry Cider

From: James and Susan


* http://bit.ly/2o2mX8a
* Untappd Rating: 3.7
* Style: Cider
* ABV: 6.8%
* Aaron: 10
* Jenn: 8
* Jim: 6
* Steve: 9


Blood Orange IPA | TommyKnocker

From: Our Steve


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2BCWIi8
* BA Rating: 3.73/5
* Style: American IPA
* ABV: 6%
* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 2
* Jim: 4
* Steve: 8


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Patrons!

We don’t have any new patrons but hopefully, we’ve got some patrons in Discord! If you wish you were in Discord you should join patreon.com/w4w and you too can join us when we do these crazy live events!

Voicemails

We’ve played a few throughout the show, and have a few more on the way, but what’s a roundtable without at least a little listener content?


* Bryce!
* Jessie from Jersey!
No worries Jessie, this show is going out to everyone in full!
* David the Ox
* Mr. Bible Pants
* Charles!


TXTs and other

From Cthulhu

Happy birthday from Cthulhu the Octopus God and his colony (family) to the Wrathful Jenn.

From mystery texter:
See if this works.

Congratulations on 200. Love you guys.

It did indeed work!

Thank you to mystery texter #2 and Wyoming local. Yeah, you know who you are. Thanks for listening and reaching out!

iTunes Reviews!

Happy 200 episodes!

From James2529

The only podcast that's made me fall off a treadmill from laughing. Totally worth it. Here's to another 200!

Love beer? You’ll love this!!

From Mississippi Nate

Started listening after hearing them on Cognitive Dissonance and I LOVE IT!!! My favorite Friday tradition is sitting down with my morning coffee every Friday and wishing it was the beer they’re drinking. Commentary is always hilarious and their banter is phenomenal. As an atheist in the heart of a red state, this has been very helpful

A fine podcast tasting

From 1dmarkiii

Upon first opening, this podcast one is immediately struck by the bouquet of slightly sour, but refreshing notes, like a perfectly done shandy. As you drink in the podcast your brain is awash in heady notes of sarcasm, and sacrilege, which are slowly and pleasantly replaced with strong comedy and hints of profanity. Pairs well with meat products, beer, and anything containing Eli Bosnick. This is truly a fine podcast and will be a regular in my podcast consumption. I highly recommend it. -a tetchy bugger

Hot Shots

DRUGS! http://bit.ly/2wPtsPT

I think I’ve finally figured out how to get some...]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 199 - The One Where We Make Hyper Fabulous Eggs! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-199/ Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:00:58 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36413 In This Week’s Show, episode 199, Jim joins us to de-woo some woo and quiz the panel on whatever Shea did. In This Week’s Show, episode 199, Jim joins us to de-woo some woo and quiz the panel on whatever Shea did.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Pan, the ancient Greek goat fucking horn-dog of a god, hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying their patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that in Disney’s 2004 princess diaries 2: the royal engagement Stan Lee made a cameo which indicates that Princess Diaries is a part of the Marvel comic universe. Therefore it's a reasonable assumption than Mia Thermopolis, Princess of Genovia could defeat Thanos in the next film.

Jim’s Good Gay News

Did you know that circa WW2, asking if you were a “friend of Dorothy” was a common way to find out if someone was playing for your team? It was used for decades and in the 80’s, Naval Intelligence thought there was an actual woman named Dorothy who was at the center of a gay underground. Really they just needed to dangle Anthony Dinizzo

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Wheat | Backswing Brewing Co.

From: Brendon


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2MxDaki
* BA Rating: 3.63/5
* Style: American Pale Wheat Ale
* ABV: 5.6%
* Aaron: 4*
* Jim: 2
* Shea: 2
* Steve: 6


*I think there was something wrong with the can…

Aussie Ry Session IPA - Two Sergeants and Town Square Brewing

From Dod Snow
IPA - Rhy
6.5% ABV
http://bit.ly/2oqWrpg


* Aaron: 5
* Jim: 1
* Shea: 5
* Steve: 4


Fun fact about this beer - we had planned to do it post-200 but it has active yeast and the cans got a bit worm… and are damn near ready to explode. So… bottoms up!

This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

No new patrons.

Make sure you sign up for https://patreon.com/w4w so you can join us on Discord! We’ll be live streaming the day’s recording with the entire crew so if you want to hear all the sass we get from Jenn and Jim during the breaks, this is your chance!

Ever wonder what you’re missing? Well here’s Jim reviewing one of my creations. If you want to hear what the rest of us thought, check out patreon.com/w4w and listen to 4 More Beers ep 22.

iTunes Review
Witty, wonderful, and hilarious

By Joegou

This cast is perfect on every front. The beer reviews are on point. The news items are approached in ways I typically don’t consider. Despite some of the heady topics, they always manage to make the content hilarious . Well done!

Voicemails

Make sure you leave us some love at 513-760-0463 for episode 200. You only have a week left and we’d really like to roll in some feedback!

Hot Shots

Steve - Do you love eggs? I personally am a big fan. When my wife doesn’t cook, there’s a good chance that I’m having eggs for lunch, dinner, whatever. However, there’s a limit, and a proper way to consume the eggs. Apparently, there’s a new way to go about it. First, take some GHB, or Gamma-hydroxybutyrate. Then boil a ton of eggs. Peel the eggs. And finally, shove all 15 freshly boiled eggs up your own arse. An unidentified man from the Netherlands did just this, and when he began feeling “unwell”, went to a hospital. The doctors suspected abdominal sepsis (no shit), so after a CT scan showed a perforation of the pelvic colon, they went in, cleaned him out, and he lived to stuff another day. http://bit.ly/2wybi4O

Aaron
http://bit.ly/2onzwLx

Fuck you homeopathy, Jim’s the only homo I need!

Well... Mr. Jim is pretty great too,]]>
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Episode 198 – The One With The Second Coming of Andrew L. Seidel https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-198/ Fri, 24 Aug 2018 13:00:49 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36400 Episode 198 - The One With The Second Coming of Andrew L. Seidel Episode 198 - The One With The Second Coming of Andrew L. Seidel
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while the FFRF hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying Andrew's patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that none of the Avengers died under the Obama administration

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

No Jenn today, she is trying out a new technique called Nyquil and chill. According to her, her palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy so send reviews to iTunes or stitcher to help her recover.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Buffalo Sweat | Tallgrass Brewing Co.


* From: RW
* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2MhZezs
* BA Rating: 3.88/5
* Style: Milk / Sweet Stout
* ABV: 5%
* Aaron: 6
* Shea: 6
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Steve’s Theme Song!

Discord chat thing on ep 200  - let us know if this is something that you're interested in. If so, make sure you sign up at http://patreon.com/w4w

A thank you to Timbo slice, who was a big fan of Jenn’s Jones voice, which if you missed you can catch on the EP 196 and 197.

Another big thank you to listener Ross from Hawaii who attempted to get us some island beers but was thwarted once again by the evil postal service.

Hot Shots

Aaron - None. Nun of your damn business that’s what!

Kind of a sad story… but also, what the hell were you thinking? Denise Woodrum, 51, is a nun of the Blood of Christ - a sect of vowed Catholic women - pled guilty to hooker boots full of coke. At a difficult part of her life, some online creep called Cornelius had begun flirting with her online. After a bit of time, the e-trist turned into her visiting him in Australia… by way of Texas, South America, Trinidad, and Tobago, then it was off to the Auzie-land, where, unfortunately for her and I assume the drug runners who tricked her, she was arrested because the weird platform heels a stranger gave her were full of fucking cocaine. So, I guess, don’t take random gifts from strangers on a plane, they even have warnings about that on the PA. And, I suppose, if you’re a nun don’t try to hide drugs in stripper boots… they tend to stand out among your other … habits.

Shea- Ramen Ninjas!

Police in Georgia are looking for some crooks who made off with nearly $100,000 worth of Ramen Noodles. My first question I how big was the fucking truck! Deputies in Fayette County say the thieves stole the 53-foot trailer packed with the noodles about two weeks ago, Fox 5 Atlanta reports. The theft is just one of a string of thefts deputies believe are related. The driver of the truck estimated there were $98,000 worth of noodles in the back; if a 48 pack of ramen costs 8 bucks at Sam's club then the thieves made off with approximately 600,000 packets of the sodium filled noodles. No word on anyone in town is suffering from hyponatremia or salt poisoning.

http://bit.ly/2w7TJZS

Aaron -  Sports!

Recently world-renowned runner of competitions Corey Bellemore ran a competition. He again proved himself worthy of his legendary status by shattering his own world record of a 4:33 mile by a whopping 9 seconds at this year’s event in Vancouver. Unfortunately, his new record was short-lived as officials disqualified him giving the win to British runner Dale Clutterbuck with a time of 4:50 reported Runner’s World, who first covered the “unspecified bottle violation”. “When race officials measured the remaining [beer] in the cans and bottles of the 20 competitors, they found that three runners, including Bellemore, had more than the permitted amount left over.]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 197 - The One Where We Finally Retire Our Tin Foil Hats... Mostly https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-197/ Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:00:50 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36391 In This Week’s Show, episode 197, we choke on nachos still laughing at Alex Jones crazy Affluenza. In This Week’s Show, episode 197, we choke on nachos still laughing at Alex Jones crazy Afluenza.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Nachigai (the earth goddess of Central Asia) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that “take out” means food, dating, and murder.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you that Nachigai (aka as Etugen), was invoked by the people for good weather, an abundance of crops and animals and general prosperity.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Kiwi Berliner | WeldWerks Brewing Co. Greeley, Co

Papa Shea


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2NOGGDi
* BA Rating: 3.92/5
* Style: Berliner Weissbier
* ABV: 4.3%
* Aaron: 1
* Jenn: 3
* Shea: 7
* Steve: 4


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

No new reviews or patrons, but Jaded Zappa has upgraded to Beer Club Member, which is good because soon that will actually mean something!

But thanks very much to RW for beer and James & Susan for cider and fun toys.

Hotshots

Shea- Ahhhhhrachnids

Florida woman arrested after running through park naked believing to be chaste (chased) by giant spiders. Danielle Teeples, 40, had recently used crack, spice and crystal meth. No word on if she took enough to be able to fold a starship through space. She stated she believed a giant spider was on her so she took her clothes off to get away from it. She is currently in jail facing charges of exposure of sexual organs.

http://bit.ly/2MlqYD9

Steve - How about a life sentence? In a shocking and sad testament to zealotry, a young couple in Michigan relied on god to keep their 10-month-old baby alive. Sadly god did nothing and the baby died of severe malnutrition. The parents, Tatiana Elena Fusari and Seth Michael Welch, both 27, said they were aware of the child’s low weight and skinny appearance for about a month, but did nothing. Fearing that CPS would take their other children and citing a lack of trust in medicine, they apparently just chose to allow the child to die rather than intervene. Now, they’ve both been charged with first-degree murder, they lost their other children, and they face life in prison w/o the possibility of parole. http://bit.ly/2MiVldI

Shea- They're after his booty

A man in a pirate mask, complete with a fake eye patch, beard, and parrot, is suspected of stealing a safe from a Cornelius business last month, according to the Washington County Sheriff's Office. More than $4,000 in cash was believed to be inside. Deputies reviewed surveillance footage and saw the man enter the business after hours. He wore a T-shirt only across his shoulders and held a fire extinguisher. Now deputies serving the small city are asking for help finding the costumed suspect, dubbed the "Masked Pirate" burglar. No word on whether they will make him walk the plank or keelhaul him.

http://bit.ly/2nKhfI7

Steve - What do you think of when I say, “little blue pill”? (responses). Boners are usually the response that one would expect. Now, research at Columbia University in New York suggests that in addition to that nice firm stiffy one can get from Viagra, it has also been shown effective in treating age-related macular degeneration, which is a leading cause of blindness. The disease is caused by a growth of new blood vessels in the eye which eventually block the macula leading to a severe decrease in visual acuity. The small study showed that Viagra helps with the underlying issue which, as one would expect, is reduced of blood flow in an area of the eye. Viagra is good at improving blood flow.]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 196 - Tone One Where We Peel Back The Layers Of Crazy https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-196/ Fri, 10 Aug 2018 13:00:59 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36376 In This Week’s Show, episode 196, Jenn comes back to help us stem the tide of bad people, bad medical advice, and bad hosting! In This Week’s Show, episode 196, Jenn comes back to help us stem the tide of bad people, bad medical advice, and bad hosting!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Hairy Jack (the spectral black dog of Lincolnshire) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Today I learned that according to Japanese legend when you can't sleep at night it's because you are awake.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Hairy Jack (AKA Black Shuck), has been sited dating back to 1577? He’s about the size of a calf, with a shaggy fur, and has saucer-shaped eyes that blaze red or green in the dark. Others say he appears as a gigantic dog with a single blazing eye in the center of his forehead, and others as completely headless.

But before we- get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Oval Beach Blonde Ale | Saugatuck Brewing Company, Michigan

Special extra beer extra thanks to Steve E!


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2vRDtvj
* BA Rating: 3.43/5
* Style: American Blonde Ale
* ABV: 5.0%
* Aaron: 9
* Jenn: 9
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 10


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

No new iTunes review or Patrons

Send us some voicemails for the 200th episode, that would be pretty cool!

Jenn’s correction corner from last week’s episode: Steve: yes, I was contagious, Shea: yes, I do listen to all the shows, even when I’m not on, and Aaron...it was really nice that you attempted to give credit (complete with song) to our listener, but her name isn’t Maurice. Thanks, Maria, for sharing the story and having a good sense of humor.

… And that’s why Jenn can never leave the show!

Hot Shots

Aaron

He mostly came out at night anyway, mostly…
Links… the fucking internet right now, I dunno, I saw a million headlines but really didn’t read them, what do you want from me?



In a move that shocked the internet — only insofar as it’s finally happening, that is — tech giants Apple, YouTube, Facebook, Spotify, and basically everywhere else sexier people are subscribed to us… less sexy people will no longer be able to subscribe to Alex Jones. Taking to the internet earlier this week Jones posted angrily about the internet was censoring him and his First Amendment rights, probably, and the Deep State almost certainly… What? I’m not actually gonna read the garbled mess of could-have-been thoughts he scrawled on the margins of the internet like so much cyber-shit! Life’s too short. Some have heralded the banning as the beginnings of a slippery slope. A slope that ends in private companies removing disinformation and anti-fact filth because it makes them look bad and us stupider… In related news apparently Slip n Slides aren’t fun but are, in fact, facioust (of course, now I can't fix this because they called it out on the show). control devices of our secular-but-also-Jewish, socialist-but-also-communist, lizards-but-also-5th-dimensional-energy-beings, ancient-but-also-super-advanced, clandestine-illuminate-public-figures. Who knew?

Steve - You may have noticed that Jenn posted a story on our Facebook page about a jackass harassing a bison in Yellowstone this last week. Said jackass is one, 55-year-old Raymond Reinke of Pendleton, Oregon who, in a stunning display of stupidity, got arrested twice and cited in three national parks inside a week. Beginning July 28 at Grand Teton NP, he was cited for being drunk and disorderly and spent the night in the Teton County jail and released on a $500 bond that required him to avoid alcohol. Then, continuing his antics, he proceeded to Yellowstone NP, where on July 31 he was cited for not wearing a seat ...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve Tone One Where We Peel Back The Layers Of Crazy yes 1:03:03
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 195 - The One Where Vagilante Justice Makes Us Repeat A Grade https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-195/ Fri, 03 Aug 2018 13:00:41 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36343 In This Week’s Show, episode 195, we hook our used honey-condoms up to Shea’s wireless nipples and electro-shock his racing allergies away. In This Week’s Show, episode 195, we hook our used honey-condoms up to Shea’s wireless nipples and electro-shock his racing allergies away.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Typhoid-Jenn hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her immune system!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that you can distinguish an alligator and a crocodile by paying attention to weather the animal sees you later or in a while.

Nebraska Brendon’s Actual Lesson

Being professionally bendie will help you cum on command, just engage your mulabandha, because nothing helps you get laid like a lil’ extra mula.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Aprikat | Alley Kat Brewing Company Alberta, CA

Dod Snow


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2LFLihn
* BA Rating: 3.34/5
* Style: Fruit / Vegetable Beer
* ABV: 4.5%
* Aaron: 8
* NB: 7
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 8


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Still the Best

July 23, 2018 by David the Oxford

Thanks for still being my favorite podcast. Beer and laughs. A combo that can’t be beat. So if you like both you have found the perfect podcast

No new patrons, get on it!

It was Shea’s birthday so don’t forget to give us an iTunes review and let him know he’s your spirit animal!

We’ve got Nebraska Brendon on the show because Jenn is dying. Please send facebook likes to help out with that one. Because sharing us on the socials will lift all of our spirits… and Jenn’s white-cell count.

Hotshots

Aaron

A California Church Plans to Open Its Own Brewery, Serving Beer During Services

http://bit.ly/2n5MbC7

From listener Marce - Yes. That is a Greater Purpose…

The Greater Purpose Community Church — where everyone knows your name and they’re always glad you came — was looking for a temporary building (not sure why) but they took up in a food lounge that had beer taps already installed. “There’s nothing in the bible that says you can’t drink alcohol in a responsible manner,” [Pastor Chris] VanHall said, and with that, beer during sermons was ok’ed, and I gotta say, if I have to go, a pint sure would help the medicine go down…

Best of all the new churches beer profits will be donated somewhere in the 30-60% range depending on costs to local charities run outside the church. Which is pretty cool all things considered.

Aaron

CDC Reminds America To Stop Reusing Condoms - http://bit.ly/2LPYbX9

Via Ask Men the CDC would like to remind penny-pinching guys out there that of all the things to save a buck on, condoms are not it! Simply put, condoms are single use and trying to reuse them makes you dumb and gross. Unless you’re a marooned on Lian Yu and your only access to contraception is the Texas-sized mass of plastic trash floating in the ocean… and frankly, even then… condoms are meant to be tossed after the first — and only — use! Seriously, of all the things the CDC has to worry about these days, from vaccine preventable outbreaks to the looming threat atomically-mutated super spiders, reminding people not to try to reuse a love-glove is an embarrassing testament to our society. If you’re really having a hard time wrapping your sausage visit cdc.gov, your local Planned Parenthood (while locations last), condomfinder.org, or a WyoAIDS social event, at which condoms are distributed freely and often with lollipops!

Aaron
Fort Collins woman donates amputated leg to search and rescue: 'Take my leg, I'm done with it. - http://bit.ly/2LLQt08

In simi-local news, Fort Collins Co.]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 194 - The One Where We Play The Last Half of The Second Half https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-194/ Fri, 27 Jul 2018 13:00:11 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36319 In This Week’s Show, episode 194, we give 10 of our cancerous sloppy seconds to lil’nug, who is just the pits... In This Week’s Show, episode 194, we give 10 of our cancerous sloppy seconds to lil’nug, who is just the pits...
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Esege Malan Babai

(the Siberian god of the sky, AKA Grandfather Bald Head) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Today I learned that there is no difference between exercise and black magic, both of them hurt your body at first and drain your energy, but the more you dabble the more powerful you become.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that the scientific term for ‘butt-crack’ is intergluteal cleft?

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Sergeant Reckless | Lazy Horse Brewing - Ohiowa, NE

Nebraskan Brendon


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2LmJ7zn
* BA Rating: 3.56/5
* Style: American IPA
* ABV: 7.2%
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 5
* Shea: 5
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patrons!


* James
* Petar


This week’s Second Half is the second half of last week’s second half… so… umm, enjoy what should probably add up to a full set of halves.

Hot Shots

Aaron
In one of his first decrees, Sheffield Yorkshire’s new Lord Mayor has put up a 10 commandments display at Tramlines Park. Normally this is where the protests start, but thanks to Magic Magid’s magic, I think we will all get behind Sheffield’s Ten Commandments:


* BE KIND
* DON’T BE A PR*CK
* DO EPIC SH*T
* SEE THE GOOD
* DON’T LOSE HOPE
* DO IT DIFFERENTLY
* ALWAYS BUY YOUR ROUND
* DON’T KISS A TORY
* TELL YA MA YOU LOVE HER
* YOU’VE GOT THIS!


Of course, it didn’t take long for some humorless harpy to take issue with 8 and 9, as her mum is a Tory - that is, a member of Britain's alt-right - and she totes kisses her all the time… No accounting for taste I suppose. And of course, there are those who are super mad because they’ll have to explain what a prick is, of course, that same complainant didn’t have to explain “shit” to her kid…
http://bit.ly/2LEygAY

Steve

Surprising exactly no one who isn’t a credulous woo, a recent study shows that, “Cancer patients who choose alternative medicine over standard, proven cancer treatments are more likely to die.” Dr. James Yu of the Yale Cancer Center and his team looked at the medical records of nearly 2 million patients and found that cancer patients have unrealistic views of the value of complementary therapy (a really nice way of saying bullshit), believing it will prolong life and a third expecting it to cure the disease. Dr. Yu understands, “If you could cure cancer with baking soda, who wouldn’t want to do that? Or if you could cure cancer with healing power crystals or positive thinking, who wouldn’t want that? I completely understand and empathize with patients,” he said. http://bit.ly/2LBTWxF

Aaron
As far as nicknames go, Lil’Nug could be a lot worse…
What is one to do when one has a heavy hankering for a fried chicken sandwich… but also your water broke? Well, you could do like San Antonio’s Falon Griffin and just accept the fact that those sweet, sweet chicken sammiches are more important than delivering your baby in a hospital… or place that cleans more than once a month… or somewhere with more medically relevant supplies than sun-ripened mayo. Like a good Christian sammich, as the place is want to do, in return for expanding the horde… and naming your kid after a snack-food, wee lil’Gracelyn Mae already has a guaranteed job with Chick-Fil-A when ...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Play The Last Half of The Second Half yes 1:01:30
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 193 - The One Where We Serve You 100 Proof Regret https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-193/ Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:00:37 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36305 In This Week’s Show, episode 193, we drink and talk about drinks we won’t drink unless we’re drunk. In This Week’s Show, episode 193, we drink and talk about drinks we won’t drink unless we’re drunk.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Rhea (the mother of the Olympian gods) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that Video Games perform significantly better than sunscreen at preventing sunburn, so I’m going to turn up my brightness and get a nice tan going.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that female ferrets will die if they go long enough without mating? After a few cycles with no...relief, they go into a permanent heat which can cause them to die of aplastic anemia. Ferret MRA’s and Incels consider it the appropriate punishment for them bitches.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Sawtooth Ale - Left Hand Brewing

From awesome listener Eli

http://bit.ly/2tunl1o

BA Rating: 2.72/5

Style: Extra Special / Strong Bitter (ESB)

ABV: 5.3%


* Aaron: 7
* Jenn: 6
* Shea: 8
* Steve: 8


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Update: Trump balloon flew over London and now it’s coming to the US, specifically the DumpTruck National Golf Club in Hillsborough, NJ, with possibly more to come if the fundraising efforts come through.

New patron and Beer Club Member Timbo Slice!

New iTunes Review!

Are you an atheist, liberal, midwesterner, science loving, anime fan, drunk that also loves podcast?

by ChibiRuah777

RATING: ★★★★★

This podcast really tickles my fancy. It honestly feels like going out for a some drinks and wings with my friends from college. The podcast mostly covers just silly stories of almost every angle, whether it be pseudoscience, history of stupidity, religion, politics or just a large supply of cheese (with a dbz or full metal joke thrown in for fun). The podcast does bend left (so do I), so be warned of that. But honestly if you are on the right and can look past that, you will have a good time. so have a beer (unless you are like me and you are at work) and enjoy a very charming podcast.PS hear of the show from Cognitive Dissonance.

Listen to use on CogDis:


* http://dissonancepod.com/waiting-4-wrath/
* http://dissonancepod.com/episode-410-sadness-correspondent/


Thanks to LonelyWyoming and her friend for helping us be a little less lonesome on Brewfest! We had a great time, hope you did too :D

Hot Shots

Aaron - His name was Robert Paulson…
Step aside Hater, there’s a new meetup App out there … but it’s not helping anyone hook up. Although it is helping a few people’s right hooks. Scrap, available now on dude-bro’s phones near you, is an App that lets you swipe right if you want to kick someone’s ass. The app helps people who think getting hit in the face is a hobby find each other and a secluded place to brawl. But isn’t that illegal you ask? Well, shut up. Because the first rule of Scrap is no one talks… to the police… about Scrap. User Edward says “We set the time, place, gear, all that. It sure beats going out and picking fights with randoms who may not even want to fight.” Best of all, apparently it’s more or less understood that the loser buys the beer…
http://bit.ly/2Lqrbnp

Steve - Sikh’s seek to shorten title of Sunny story - Former adult actress Sunny Leone who’s original name was Karenjit Kaur Vhora has upset India’s Sikh community just by using her own name in the title of her new biopic series, Karenjit Kaur: The Untold Story of Sunny Leone. Apparently they specifically object to the Kaur portion of the name,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Serve You 100 Proof Regret yes 1:03:51
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 192 - The One We Where We Honor Picabu And All The Good Dogs https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-192/ Fri, 13 Jul 2018 13:00:13 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36292 In This Week’s Show, episode 192, it’s hot as fuck in Wyoming so we’re going to the EUs to drink with some monks with dogs! In This Week’s Show, episode 192, it’s hot as fuck in Wyoming so we’re going to the EUs to drink with some monks with dogs!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Asclepius (the Greek god of the medical arts) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if the Black Panther were to make Jewish bread for Thor’s birthday party in Asgard it would be T’Challa making challah for the Valhalla gala.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that the winged serpents on the staff icon, used on hospitals, ambulances, etc., is called a caduceus, named after a son of Asclepius? When the symbol has only one, wingless snake it’s known as the Rod of Asclepius and is also used to signify medical aid.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

The Shining Ale No. 217 - Estes Park Brewery

By Tim, Keith, and Anna

BA Link: http://bit.ly/2MNoESf

BA Rating: 2.98/5

Style: IPA

ABV: 6%


* Aaron: 5
* Jenn: 6
* Shea: 5
* Steve: 5


This Week’s Show

PAGE_BREAK: PageBreak

Round Table Discussion

New Patrons


* Leighanne
* Melony
* LonelyWyoming


Laramie Brewfest tomorrow, looking forward to getting to meet Lonely Wyoming in person!

Fun update, the Orange Baby Donnie balloon is one step closer to take-off for our Embarrassment in Chief’s visit to London (day of airing actually). The Mayor of London has given it the green-light (probably because Trump and mayor Sadiq Khan don’t have a good history.) All organizers are still awaiting final approval from the Metropolitan Police and National Air Traffic Service.

Hotshots

Aaron -

ln hotshot news today, recent clinical trials of necklaces-that-make-you-bulletproof came to a screeching halt when Chinaka Adoezuwe, 26, offered to prove the efficacy of his by allowing a would-be buyer to shoot him. He’s dead now.

Apparently, this is a booming industry. Another “traditional” bulletproof-er died earlier this year the same way. So popular are these charms in Nigeria that even the police wear them. Many admitted to having more confidence in being protected "the traditional way," anon quote “even my wife knows about the charm and we are both Christians. She does not complain because at the end of the day, she does not want me to lose my life facing armed robbers. There is nothing wrong with double protection,” one officer told the publication.

http://bit.ly/2KOTyfD

Steve - Eat nuts to improve your nut? Apparently, there is a general decline in sperm counts across the Western world linked to pollution, smoking, and diet. The BBC is reporting in a story which doesn’t mention the source, that a study shows that adding nuts to your diet can improve the health of your sperm. The nuts in question consist of two ounces of mixed almonds, hazelnuts, and walnuts daily in addition to the regular diet of the 119 healthy male participants aged 18-35. As with all limited study’s, experts caution against thinking that this could apply generally across populations and just becoming healthier generally is probably the best way to shoot a better load. http://bit.ly/2KSI62n

 

Shea-

A very silly, but at the same time serious name war is brewing between Scandinavian breweries and German brewery Wacken Brauerei. Wacken Brauerei is currently patenting names from Norse Mythology and threatens others to "involve lawyers and in the worst case even courts,” if they use the names for their beer. Wacken Brauerei claimed in a Facebook statement that they filed for these patents to d...]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One We Where We Honor Picabu And All The Good Dogs - Patreon yes 1:01:17
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 191 - The One Where Jenn Learns To Speak Russian Rock https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-191/ Fri, 06 Jul 2018 13:00:25 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36269 In This Week’s Show, episode 191, we call in ghosts to our new job at the Siberian ark-trailer park. In This Week’s Show, episode 191, we call in ghosts to our new job at the Siberian ark-trailer park.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Justin Trudeau hasn’t struck us down yet, we are wishing him a Happy Canada Day!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Like his fabled namesake, Shea’s presence today is only legend.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that female KGB spies during the Cold War (what few there were), had a signature smell? All were required to wear Chanel #5 as part of their personas. (I have a Russia-trivia heavy episode today.)

http://bit.ly/2NtftGI

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

M-43 - Old Nation Brewing

Steve E - Michigan


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2tsTuGS
* BA Rating: 4.44/5
* Style: American IPA
* ABV: 6.8
* Aaron: 9
* Jenn: 8
* Brendon: 8
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

We’ve got patrons!


* Samantha
* Matt


Salted Caramel - Lazy Horse Brewing

Brendon - Ohiowa, NE


* BA Link: http://bit.ly/2Nubiud
* BA rating 3.38/5
* Untappd Rating: 3.51/5
* Style: Blonde Ale
* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 6
* Brendon: 8
* Steve: 6


No iTunes or Voicemail

Last week early … bird-subscribers got a bit of a worm. You might have noticed a second 10-minute story… that’s what patrons get! So you should be one at https://patreon.com/w4w

Hot Shots

Aaron -

Just call in sick…

http://bit.ly/2KDaDsT

Eli Aldinger is a dingwad. Not wanting to go to work one dark and stormy day, Eli — instead of calling in sick like a normal person — hit three people with his car. Driving down the sidewalk, he managed to run over two people and graze another, but don’t worry, he wasn’t really trying to kill anyone, just “to injure.” See, he was tired of working in the cafeteria at McMenamins Anderson school, so “I had to change something in my life, so I hit three people with my car,” and now he’s on his way to jail where he’s looking forward “spending a few years in a room.”

Steve - Stork brings more than a child. A polish charity learned the hard way that using a cell phone tracker to keep tabs on the movement of a stork can get very expensive. “Radio Poland” an ecological group had put a cell tracker on a stork to monitor its migratory movements, but some 3700 miles from Poland in South Sudan, they lost track of it. Well, someone in Sudan got a hold of the tracker and moved it’s SIM to another phone and made over 20 hours of calls, the $2700 bill of which is the charity’s responsibility. http://bit.ly/2KPNGC2

Aaron -

Right in the mangoes!

http://bit.ly/2KLYPnk

Nashik municipal Corp (NMC - a regulatory board as best as I can tell) has sent a “show cause notice” to Sambhaji Bhide — a right-wing activist and fruit fucker — to prove his claims that eating his mangoes will make you have a boy child… which is especially impressive if you’re infertile. According to Sambhaji “If a couple wants a male child they will have it after eating these mangoes. This mango is useful for those facing infertility," adding that 150 of 180 couples who’ve eaten his mangos now have kids… so, two things, 1, he doesn’t seem to be selling a lot of mangoes, and 2, per the local government, publish the names and fucking prove it.

Steve - Say Cheese! Lots and lots and lots of cheese as a matter of fact. Right now, the US has the most cheese stockpiled since record keeping began in 1917; 1.385 Billion pounds as a matter of fact.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where Jenn Learns To Speak Russian Rock yes 1:03:28
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 190 - The One Where We Name Things After Columbus & Tri-agedy https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-190/ Fri, 29 Jun 2018 13:00:22 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36250 In This Week’s Show, episode 190, we’re back from Copper Mountain – whose Grilled Cheese event didn’t include grilled or cheese – to triangulate Russian condom bombs. In This Week’s Show, episode 190, we’re back from Copper Mountain – whose Grilled Cheese event didn’t include grilled or cheese – to triangulate Russian condom bombs.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, whileTereteth(the Micronesian goddess of coconut toddies) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson -

This week I learned that CNN and Fox news has done to our parents what they thought violent video games and Marilyn Manson would do to us.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson -

Did you know that the great squid has the largest eye in the animal kingdom? I’ve been under the weather and watching a lot of science docs. :D

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Redacted Rye IPA - Renegade Brewing

From Eli

BA Link: http://bit.ly/2lnYwRj

BA Rating: 3.82/5

Style: IPA

ABV: 7%


* Aaron: 3 … 4? Angry 4…
* Jenn: 5
* Shea: 6
* Steve: 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Patrons - http://patreon.com/w4w


* Brian
* Nate


Voicemail

From Miss Marti Gras and Mr. Bible Pants… like, two voicemails, not Mr. and Mr. Gras-Pants.

FB note from Petar

Thanks for a kind email from Gerhard!

Hot Shots

Aaron -

Fucking woos will fuck your teeth.

We usually look to Canada’s healthcare system for means of improving our own… or at least pissing off the GOP. But not everything is so pearly in Canada — especially the teeth of Calgary. In 2011 the city council decided to fuck everyone within the sound and smell of their persons by removing fluoride from the drinking water. You might recall fluoride as the brainwashing pseudo-medical elixir of the elitist lizard-alien overlords. But Calgary’s dentists paint a different picture. One of “Sammy” an 8-year-old whose teeth had become so rotted that an infection had spread from his gums to his eye, where it threatened his brain and life. Children whose primary and permanent molars are decaying before they even erupt through the gums. Most of the local drinking water is naturally fluoridated at 0.1 to 0.4 parts per million… unfortunately, the required therapeutic level is 0.7. Of course, there are still those who blame the unprecedented increase in tooth decay to not brushing, drinking soda, tooth actors, and of course, “nu-uh.”
I would say c’est la vie, but, it shouldn’t be and without fluoridated water, it will be a much shorter life indeed.

http://bit.ly/2IAIeO6

Shea - Big Baby Balloon


* Thousands of Brits rallied together to raise over $10,000 to fly a giant inflatable orange baby with a unique quaff of hair over parliament square in London to protest the great American clown’s visit.
* The six-metre tall balloon has been crowdfunded by members of the public and is expected to be a focal point during protests against the trip
* http://bit.ly/2tCPhBg



Steve - Supremely Stupid - The US Supreme court ruled 5-4, you can guess the breakdown) that it’s perfectly okay for California “Crisis Pregnancy Centers” aka Christian crusader clump of cells charlatans, to stop posting information regarding where women could get actual good advice regarding her pregnancy options. Prior to the ruling, California’s Reproductive Freedom, Accountability, Comprehensive Care and Transparency Act or FACT Act, required these bullshit places to provide actual complete and honest information to women.]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Name Things After Columbus & Tri-agedy yes 1:00:45
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 189 - The One We Where Go Train At Altitude! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-189/ Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:00:47 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36229 In This Week’s Show, episode 189, we sign up for a bunch of soccer sex cults only to be goal-blocked by Skynet. In This Week’s Show, episode 189, we sign up for a bunch of soccer sex cults only to be goal-blocked by Skynet.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Litha (Some kind of Wiccan hippie Summer Solstice spirit god) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

Today I learned that peanut is a great way to describe the two things a penis can do.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know I have a kitten now? Yes, I do. And he’s cutest murder floof ever.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Sad Panda - Horse & Dragon Brewery

From Shea!

BA Link: http://bit.ly/2JPuOCH

BA Rating: 4.19/5

Style: American Stout

ABV: 6.8%


* Aaron: 10
* Jenn: 9
* Shea: 7
* Steve: 9


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New Beer Club Patron member - Meet the Crash Dummy!

New iTunes Review

I love and hate it!

by dinospleen

Rating: ★★★★★

I found you through Cognitive Dissonance and have been listening ever since. The humor is right up my ally so I love it. I hate it because I love beer, and I am now living in South Korea where all the beer is a variation of piss beer or really expensive, I can get Sierra Nevada, but it's $42/6-pack. I'm from Montana where there is plenty of tasty local brews, and apparently crazy, as discussed in the last episode I listened to. Jenn is my spirit animal as we have similar beer preferences, and she gets special points for a Bill Bass reference.

2 New Stitcher Reviews

★★★★★ 5 out of 5 stars.

MANDY77 - Great Show!

This show covers a wide variety of topic and is always paired with a new beer. One thing I love about this show is that it comes from Wyoming and it is nice to know you aren't alone in a sea of red. These guys know what it is like to be liberal/secular in a deeply conservative state. It is great to know I'm not alone.

★★★★★ 5 out of 5 stars.

Dod Sno

Comedy, news, beer... Awesome!

Turns out you don't need an account to rate on stitcher so I'm out of excuses. Great combination of personalities and topics. Comparisons to Cognitive Dissonance are well deserved. Give this one a listen!

Thanks again for coming out for a beer with us… and all the beer! And the glassware that we’re unboxing live!

And Aaron gets his own theme song from the Napkin Pope!

Hot Shots

Aaron - Do sex-bots dream of electric MeToo Hashtags?

This show loves fake things, like woo-woo, the supernatural (not to be confused with Supernatural, the Scoobie crossover was great), and alligators, natures toothiest myth.

But we also love boobs. Specifically, a new model of fake model-boobs, codenamed Samantha. After years of stories of sex dolls-angels falling from the sky, robo-pimps opening brothels, and literally everyone who's ever bought one of these forcing it to cosplaying sexy-Wonder Woman, we have an important update on the autonomy of autonomous sex machines.

Namely, they can now be put off or not in the mood. Congrats incels, now even the internet won’t fuck you. Samantha demonstrated her ability to say “no” to “stunned academics,” because if there’s one group of people not used to hearing “no” is upper class old white men who, I’m sure, where only there to read her manual. The Jennifer Lopez-esk sex-bot has sensors in her skin that will cause her to shut down if you’re too rough, disrespectful, or don’t take out the trash. She sports four settings, from “family” — yes really — to “romantic”, “sex”, and “extra naughty,]]>
Aaron, Jenn, Jim, Shea & Steve The One Where We Go Train At Altitude! yes 1:03:39
Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 188 - The One Where Jenn Combs The Desert For Pizza & Justice! https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-188/ Fri, 15 Jun 2018 13:00:04 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36216 In This Week’s Show, episode 188, we order poisonous homeopathic pizza and get it delivered to NASA's new sparkly Brewery for 4 More Beers 20! In This Week’s Show, episode 188, we order poisonous homeopathic pizza and get it delivered to NASA's new sparkly Brewery for 4 More Beers 20!
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Hodor (blind Norse god and son of Odin) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that every time Magic Johnson hugs you he steals a few white blood cells.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know Hodor killed his brother Baldur by shooting him with mistletoe? It wasn’t his fault, really; Loki tricked him into it cuz that’s what he does.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Saison d’Brett - Funkworks, Ft. Collins, CO


* Donated by: Tim, Keith, and Anna
* ABV: 7%
* Style: Fruit Saison
* Aaron: 9
* Jenn: 8
* Shea: 9
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

We had a tornado.

Shea’s theme song!

Thanks to Mr. Bible Pants for your kind words, we’re alive, no thanks to tornado god McGee.

We’ve got fuck-all otherwise, so a quick reminder that we need iTunes review to feel good about ourselves and patrons to get to ReasonCon next year.

With that, we’re going to give you a preview of the 4 More Beers that we’re about to record for patrons. And if you’re feeling all jelly, you can hear it too at http://patreon.com/w4w!


Aaron’s Booze!

Spoiler: It was not good, but the booze for 4 More Beers was great, and Jenn drank an assload of it! So that was fun ;)

Hot Shots

Steve - Octopusses galore

Scientists recently discovered a little patch of the wild west in Jervis Bay on the eastern Australia coastline which is the home of around 15 octopuses (not octopi, not really). Under 30-50 feet of water, the town - dubbed Octlantis - has a community of octopuses living together in a complex social behavioral system where they communicate with each other, live together, and guard their homes, chasing away the undesirables, not unlike those seen in vertebrates. This isn’t the first octopus town discovered either. Another, dubbed Octopolis was discovered in 2009. http://bit.ly/2l7o0SO

Aaron - In I can’t hear you so it’s fake news… this story isn’t about America. The Institution of Homoeopaths in Kerala, apparently watching British homeopaths lose their asses to the NHS and the Merseyside Skeptics Society, have decided to preempt similar revelations in India by appealing to the Indian government to block Wikipedia’s entry on the topic. Citing that the wiki article has insulted AYUSH by calling their treatments, nonsense, quackery, and a sham. So really, there are two takeaways here. One, that’s not how the internet or medicine work India. And two, in a surprising turn of events, go Wikipedia!

http://bit.ly/2sY4exo

Steve - Incompetence lives on in Florida… again.

For over a year, the Florida staffer of the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services who was responsible for conducting national background checks for concealed carry permits… didn’t. The Florida Agriculture Commissioner who is responsible for that department did campaign on making the permit process faster, but that’s not even why this important step was not done. The reason? The idiot functionary responsible lost the password to log into the national system. Tens of thousands of applications for concealed carry were approved without even this basic step being done. Nice work Florida.

http://bit.ly/2law7hl

Aaron - You smell like cabbage and sparkles!

Jillian Epperly, 44, of Ohio is medical miracle worker… Well,]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 187 - The One Where We Fall Down Incorrectly Named Rabbit Holes - Patreon https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-187/ Fri, 08 Jun 2018 13:00:17 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36186 In This Week’s Show, episode 187, we finally get Shea to move out of his parents' house and run for Senate through the generous use of homeopathic flying cake and a fat, smelly, rage-stick. In This Week’s Show, episode 187, we finally get Shea to move out of his parents' house and run for Senate through the generous use of homeopathic flying cake and a fat, smelly, rage-stick.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Yumna (the Korean- Buddhist god of the underworld) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if a nickname is what people call you for short, then your full name would be your Nicholas name.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that the mascot of Vidalia, GA (the onion capital of the world and sorta my hometown) is an onion in overalls named Yumion? I can also fully believe he is the god of some religion’s underworld.

I’m Steve and I’m back, and before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

You’re In The Jungle Baby! - Evil twin Brewing, Brooklyn, NY

From Andi & Allan

ABV: 12%

Style: Imperial Stout


* Aaron: 8
* Jenn: 9
* Shea: 4
* Steve: 6


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Patreon

Joshua (The computer and Falken’s son in War Games (1983) - really old reference I know. S)

Or Brolin? I think I already did Joshua the Dog…

Thanks to last week’s patron The Foz for clarifying that his patron name encompasses both The Fonz and Fozzie Bear. Also it’s a play on his name. So thanks for allowing us to teach Aaron all kinds of fun things.

Email

Somehow Gourmet Grubb and EntoMilk emailed us. Apparently, cockroach milk and EntoMilk milk aren't the same thing. Cockroach milk, as portrayed in the media and our show, is a commercially inviable academic interest as it’s expensive, time consuming, and not scalable. Also, the milk-crystals aren’t… milk-y. EntoMilk’s clarification is that they don’t use this process, but instead, blend up Black Soldier Fly Larvae… which is somehow better. All that said, they're both nasty so whatever. In EntoMilk’s defense, they made the “fly in my milk” joke in their own email, way ahead of ourselves. So… yeah...

iTunes

Beer, brains on beer, and laughs.

By Pixie the Apostle

One of my favourite podcasts,each week the 4 Wrath crew gives me laughs while covering serious topics,while enjoying a beer. I've been listening for all the ever,and will continue to do so.

Happy Birthday to friend-of-the-show Brendon! You’re old now, good luck with that.

Hot Shots!

Steve - I’m personally sensitive to smell. Enough so that when we have student staff working at our offices who tend to wear cologne, I will often require that they don’t wear it to work. I’m not hardcore about it, I just fucking hate that stinky cloud that follows some people around. That is nothing like what passengers on a Dutch Transavia Airlines flight had to deal with though. A few days ago, a Dutch paper reported that a flight from Amsterdam to a Spanish island had to be diverted because passengers were fainting and puking due to a stench in the aircraft. Was it an item in a carry-on bag or something wrong with the plane? Hell no. It was one of the passengers. This person was so disgusting and stinky that people were literally gagging and vomiting. One passenger said it smelled like he hadn’t washed in weeks. Another said it smelled worse than “that of a corpse that had been decomposing for a month.” The crew put the gross person in the lavatory and the plane landed early in Faro, Portugal to get him off, but it was still so nasty in there that food and drink service was suspended when they took off for the scheduled destination.

http://bit.ly/2Jy62XD

Aaron - Citing uncited research in the areas of feet...]]>
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Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 186 - The One Where We Finish Up The Last One https://www.waiting4wrath.com/w4w-186/ Fri, 01 Jun 2018 13:00:07 +0000 http://107.178.214.11/~waiting4/?p=36168 In This Week’s Show, episode 186, we pick up where 185 left off, and help you cure your weird illnesses on our private jet. In This Week’s Show, episode 186, we pick up where 185 left off, and help you cure your weird illnesses on our private jet.
Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Dukawaqa (The all-seeing and all-knowing shark god of Fiji.) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that if someone is talking behind your back, you should just fart.

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that humans are closer genetically to chimps and bonobos than the African elephant is to the Asian elephant? SCIENCE!

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

The Power of Zeus - High Hops Brewery, Windsor, CO

From: Eli
ABV: 3.72/5
Style: American Pale Ale (APA)


* Aaron - 7
* Jenn - 7
* Shea - 7


This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

New patron: The Foz (he updated his name on Patreon)

Thanks to his holiness the Napkin Pope I now know a lot more about alchemy than I did before. Apparently, I was being more clever than I thought I was last week when my Full Metal Alchemy jokes - it turns out Paracelsus was the inspiration for FMA!

If you’re one of those folks who waits with bated breath for the show to air - and who doesn’t really - you might have noticed that I fucked up.

Headlines

Priorities - He has them

Newsweek - http://bit.ly/2LPMDjc

Jesse Duplantis, 68, a Christian minister based in Destrehan, LA has a problem. I mean, a problem beyond being in Louisiana and a Christian televangelist. Happily, he has a following of credulous cuckoos waiting in the wings to help him out with his crushing personal problem.

He posted a video last week explaining what he needed and why he needed, and I desperately wanted to have a clip of him telling us himself but the links take you to another video (probably because of the backlash it’s been taken down) so I’ll just have to quote him:

“I really believe that if the Lord Jesus Christ was physically on the Earth today, he wouldn’t be riding a donkey. He’d be in an airplane flying all over the world. Let me just say this. We're believing God for a brand new Falcon 7X, so we can go anywhere in the world in one stop.” Yep, that’s right… Jesus Private Air. Duplantis would like his followers to “believe” enough that he can buy a new $54 million jet.

“You know I have owned three different jets in my life and I use them and just burning them up for the Lord, Jesus Christ. Some people believe that preachers shouldn't have jets. I really believe that preachers ought to be able to go on every available voice, every available outlet to get this gospel preached to the world.”

The reasons he needs this newest jet is...why, to save his parishioners money of course!

“If I can do it for one stop, I can fly it for a lot cheaper because I have my own fuel farm. And that's what's a blessing of the lord. This one here I have to stop and then you pay those exorbitant prices for jet fuel all over the world.” Whatta guy!

We touched on the ridiculous hypocrisy of these “prosperity gospel” bullshit con artists, so here’s a new one to add to our list. I’ve seen a few reports that he was one of the ones who claimed he can’t fly commercial because they are “infested with demons”.

Lady Astronaut Answers the REAL Questions At Patreon.com/W4W

… and probably Nasa or whatever.

ScienceAlert.com - http://bit.ly/2LL5c82

Peggy Whitson is a badass. Even though she, sadly, will no longer be heading into space she still has plenty of enthusiasm and love for the space program. She was the former head of the International Space Station and has...]]>
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